the people who are upset that you need an internet connection to play the single player content are just being dumb
I guess insulting behaviour is a sign of the times...probably makes some people feel better about themselves.
Problem is, if Blizzard go bust or simply decide that you've had enough time playing their game and pull the plug on the server you'll be left with nothing but an expensive coaster.
Bit like Steam really, I don't like the idea of having my ability to play single player games that I have paid for dependent on permission from some fly-by-night company out there which might or might not go bust at any moment.
That sounds like a realistic concern since all of Blizzards games have had such a short lifespan. /sarcasm off
Blizzard will support this game for a long long time and it will be well worth your investment if this is the only issue you have.
Dont forget steam, Steam is Never been a main stream supporter of games. Im sure in the next 6 months to a year they will be bankrupt and I wont be able to play any games I bough threw them.
Frankly, Diablo 3 no off line, is what ever. Who honeslty thought there was gonna be an offline mode? They made the new verison of battle.net just for this. SC2 has an offline mode, but you have to activate it the first time, anyone with crapy internet connections, or still running Vintage 56K, still dont need to be buying new computers to be playing new games like Diablo 3. Go and spend the 15 bucks a month for some damn DSL. If you live out in the boonies, sorry, go ride a cow.
The AH for Real money is gonna be intresting to see, Im sure blizzard will put on a 15% broker fee, so they will be getting a nice slice of pie on there.
As for the couple of thousand people gonna protest the game, not buying it cus there no offline, or the AH for real money, well I dont think its gonna hurt the biggest MMO company out there if you dont buy there newest game. Honestly im not sure what people even view this as an issue, there not forecing you to buy the game, there not gonna make you spend your hard earned cash on items from the AH, its diablo, Phat lutz drop every time you kill a boss. better be quick on grabbing that lutz, its diablo, and the horrors of having to have an online connection in order to play diablo 3. Ohh no the pain... games with online connections, I never..
Blizzard can kiss my ass. I used to have nothing but respect for the company, but not anymore. I'm disgusted to think that the company I held above all others has turned to such crap. Starcraft II is a joke, and now Diablo 3 is going to be too. Way to screw up the franchise Blizzard.
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
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Blizzard can go fuck off themselves I used to love this company for their gamers first dedication but now they are a bunch of moneygrabbing customer pissing off idiots and it all started with Activision.
real money auction house, no solo play, no mods, no talent trees, no customizeable stats and no wardrobe so what is a left?
A game thats doesn't deserve to have the name Diablo.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
I haven't really been excited about Diablo 3. The game mechanics seem to lack a lot of what made the first and second Diablo games so addictive, and I'm not thrilled about the new art direction. Still, all Blizzard games have a few things going for them that make them a safe purchase. They are always polished almost to perfection, they're fun to play in 20-30 minute bursts, and they're always made to run well on outdated hardware, which means they will run smoothly on a decent laptop.
With this in mind, I figured I'd get Diablo 3 just to have something to kill time with in airports and hotel rooms while travelling... but I guess only those with a pirated version will get to do that. Sure, you can get wireless access almost anywhere, and mobile broadband isn't *that* expensive, but I tend to avoid entering account info that can be tied to my credit card while connected to a public network. Besides, lack of internet connection is the only reason why I'd want to play Diablo or any of its clones these days, so I guess I'll stick to playing Diablo 2 in offline mode or trying out the new Torchlight.
On a side note, I've been playing Lost Vikings (released almost 20 years ago) a lot in DOSBox on my netbook lately. In another 20 years, that will most likely still be possible. Do you think the same will be true for Diablo 3? It's not really that relevant as very few games are worth replaying several years after release, but hopefully Blizzard will release a single-player offline patch for the game before pulling the plug on the online service.
Pretty much this! Unless you're the 0.00001% of the population that doesn't have internet there is no reason not too. Although for some reason it does look like these changes are going to weed out a lot of the population that is too dumb to figure out the positive impact of the features. Oh well, less idiots I have to play with.
Pretty much this! Unless you're the 0.00001% of the population that doesn't have internet there is no reason not too. Although for some reason it does look like these changes are going to weed out a lot of the population that is too dumb to figure out the positive impact of the features. Oh well, less idiots I have to play with.
Oh yes because only stupid people do not play Blizzard games, and you are not a biased Blizzard fan at all!
I am sorry but there legit reasons why people will not play this game, and for you to say there isn’t is completely asinine. God the way you people talk Blizzards games out sell every other game ever made. Well then why have they not beat Halo, GTA, or CoD sells records. So get off your high horse, not everyone has to see Blizzard as a god of gaming.
Blizzard's decent into the gutter with other notables like soe and EA started when they merged with Activision and shows no signs of changing. The gaming industry as a whole has been increasingly pissing me off over the past few years to the point that I may find something else to spend my disposable income on. Unlike say food and shelter, buying and playing video games is a luxury, not a necessity. Maybe I'll take up knitting as hobby rather than gaming.
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All these features just kill the gaming mood for me. It's bit like a woman in your bedroom, with granny panties. Ebay integrated to my games, seriously? No mods harms the creativity and community parts of the game. Having to online is a bitch for me and many others and it's just unnecessary. If you are fine with these, I understand, but long time gamers like me have certain standards. This is not only about the game itself, but also about the whole industry. If I fund this crap, there's going to be more Bobby Koticks in the industry than my nerves can withstand
yep blizzard fixed the age old dilema for pro gamer on how to make a living!they introduce real world money transaction for ah of dablo3!men you should have heard the gold seller cheer !i couldnt ear my own game sound and god knows most of the gold seller are in asia far from america!
DIABLO 3 IS NOT A SINGLE PLAYER GAME. IT IS A MULTIPLAYER GAME THAT CAN BE PLAYED ALONE.
every single diablo has had the ability to be played online and every single diablo saw the majority of its playerbase stampede into the online servers TO PLAY WITH OTHER PEOPLE. a hack'n'slash rpg like diablo 3 simply IS NOT FUN to play alone.
I take it you were never around when everyone was playing Diablo 1 & 2 in their heyday.
Lots played online and a good number played offline. And the 2 older games offered the gamer choice.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Would piracy really be that big problem, I wonder? Most people play Diablo II online, to my knowledge. I can't believe piracy is as big problem as some make it out to be. We've had several DRM free examples, that have made great profit. Not to mention Diablo III will most likely have plenty Chinese item farming accounts bought, so it's not like their box sales are suffering too much. Most profit will come from their Diablo-Ebay, too.
In my case, I don't buy exactly because of the anti piracy, and while I know that's not what majority does, it's still some people. It all just seems counter-productive to me.
For those thinking they'll just pickup a pirated version a few days after release that wont happen.
The requirment to be online is not to just to authenticate with the server from time to time it's so the content can be served to the player, characaters, their stashes, progress is all saved online to the server, dungeons are created on the server and sent to the client, mob drops and spawns come form the sever. In short it works just like an MMO.
The pro of this is that rules out 99.9% of hackers, the con only effects a tiny minory who chose to live in areas with dodgy internet or travel a lot.
Would piracy really be that big problem, I wonder? Most people play Diablo II online, to my knowledge. I can't believe piracy is as big problem as some make it out to be. We've had several DRM free examples, that have made great profit. Not to mention Diablo III will most likely have plenty Chinese item farming accounts bought, so it's not like their box sales are suffering too much. Most profit will come from their Diablo-Ebay, too.
In my case, I don't buy exactly because of the anti piracy, and while I know that's not what majority does, it's still some people. It all just seems counter-productive to me.
SC2 pirated atleats 2.3 million times - and it does have offline single player.
Would piracy really be that big problem, I wonder? Most people play Diablo II online, to my knowledge. I can't believe piracy is as big problem as some make it out to be. We've had several DRM free examples, that have made great profit. Not to mention Diablo III will most likely have plenty Chinese item farming accounts bought, so it's not like their box sales are suffering too much. Most profit will come from their Diablo-Ebay, too.
In my case, I don't buy exactly because of the anti piracy, and while I know that's not what majority does, it's still some people. It all just seems counter-productive to me.
I think your initial statement a bit funny because all the people I know who played the Diablo games only played them as single player. I was very surprised to find out there was a robust multiplayer community.
Piracy is a huge deal.
The players have done this to themselves. Not "all" players but there are players out there who think nothing about pirating a game, playing it, sharing it with friends and moving on to the next game.
So companys want to not only recoup their developement costs and make a profit. So they are going to do whatever they can to get as much of that profit as they can.
which they should.
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Would piracy really be that big problem, I wonder? Most people play Diablo II online, to my knowledge. I can't believe piracy is as big problem as some make it out to be. We've had several DRM free examples, that have made great profit. Not to mention Diablo III will most likely have plenty Chinese item farming accounts bought, so it's not like their box sales are suffering too much. Most profit will come from their Diablo-Ebay, too.
In my case, I don't buy exactly because of the anti piracy, and while I know that's not what majority does, it's still some people. It all just seems counter-productive to me.
I think your initial statement a bit funny because all the people I know who played the Diablo games only played them as single player. I was very surprised to find out there was a robust multiplayer community.
Piracy is a huge deal.
The players have done this to themselves. Not "all" players but there are players out there who think nothing about pirating a game, playing it, sharing it with friends and moving on to the next game.
So companys want to not only recoup their developement costs and make a profit. So they are going to do whatever they can to get as much of that profit as they can.
which they should.
I might indeed be wrong, that most people play online. I'm kind of referring to the later life of the game, though. I don't think piracy is small problem, but still, I see these ways of fighting it back counter-productive. Then again, it's not like I disagree with adding these features, it just hapens to mean, that I lose my interest in the game. Doesn't mean it's much of a loss for Activision Blizzard though. Or is it?
EDIT: Oh, didn't Diablo II have an online mode, that didn't require authetication or something? Well either way, my claim was bullcrap now when I think about it.
Pretty much this! Unless you're the 0.00001% of the population that doesn't have internet there is no reason not too. Although for some reason it does look like these changes are going to weed out a lot of the population that is too dumb to figure out the positive impact of the features. Oh well, less idiots I have to play with.
Oh yes because only stupid people do not play Blizzard games, and you are not a biased Blizzard fan at all!
I am sorry but there legit reasons why people will not play this game, and for you to say there isn’t is completely asinine. God the way you people talk Blizzards games out sell every other game ever made. Well then why have they not beat Halo, GTA, or CoD sells records. So get off your high horse, not everyone has to see Blizzard as a god of gaming.
I didn't say only stupid people don't play Blizzard games. In fact that is not even close to what I said. There will be many smart people who have no interest in the game for various reason; however, there are many who were interested in the game until these announcements. It is that subset of people who I was referring to and I'm glad I wont have to game with them.
To anyone who thinks that mods are little more than "cheats" like teleport, map-hack, etc. I really urge you to look at this page for just a few minutes: http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
This is a mod called Median XL for a game that Diablo 3 will probably be similar to, namely DIABLO 2!
The mod adds TONS of content to the game like new classes, new skills, new systems, new items, new monsters, etc. etc.
THIS is what Blizzard is disallowing when they say no mods. Why would anyone ever be happy about that? Many mods are WAY better than expansion packs that the developer would ever put out.
Would piracy really be that big problem, I wonder? Most people play Diablo II online, to my knowledge. I can't believe piracy is as big problem as some make it out to be. We've had several DRM free examples, that have made great profit. Not to mention Diablo III will most likely have plenty Chinese item farming accounts bought, so it's not like their box sales are suffering too much. Most profit will come from their Diablo-Ebay, too.
In my case, I don't buy exactly because of the anti piracy, and while I know that's not what majority does, it's still some people. It all just seems counter-productive to me.
The players have done this to themselves. Not "all" players but there are players out there who think nothing about pirating a game, playing it, sharing it with friends and moving on to the next game.
Thatsa very outdated tbh appart from with kids, as the average game player is prob in their 30's this is not an issue. What blizzard corp want obviously is to make diabl 3 game but with the wow model. A good developer would take the best elements of Diable and very carefully take advantage of the good aspects of wow. However, what we seem to be seeing is a crude lets make wow in the diablo world, and the risk is you end up with exactly that, wow with a different graphic perspective.
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To anyone who thinks that mods are little more than "cheats" like teleport, map-hack, etc. I really urge you to look at this page for just a few minutes: http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
This is a mod called Median XL for a game that Diablo 3 will probably be similar to, namely DIABLO 2!
The mod adds TONS of content to the game like new classes, new skills, new systems, new items, new monsters, etc. etc.
THIS is what Blizzard is disallowing when they say no mods. Why would anyone ever be happy about that? Many mods are WAY better than expansion packs that the developer would ever put out.
That is one of 2 mods produced within the 10+ years since D2 was released that had anything substantial, yet no new zones, no involving storyarcs, no new real classes. Skills, quests, monsters. Not really that great honestly, and it took years just to get that. D2 was mostly irrelevant and hacked to sheet by the time either of the good mods were in near-playable states.
I re-iterate, 99% of mods are crap and 99% of game buyers won't touch them.
To anyone who thinks that mods are little more than "cheats" like teleport, map-hack, etc. I really urge you to look at this page for just a few minutes: http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
This is a mod called Median XL for a game that Diablo 3 will probably be similar to, namely DIABLO 2!
The mod adds TONS of content to the game like new classes, new skills, new systems, new items, new monsters, etc. etc.
THIS is what Blizzard is disallowing when they say no mods. Why would anyone ever be happy about that? Many mods are WAY better than expansion packs that the developer would ever put out.
That is one of 2 mods produced within the 10+ years since D2 was released that had anything substantial, yet no new zones, no involving storyarcs, no new real classes. Skills, quests, monsters. Not really that great honestly, and it took years just to get that. D2 was mostly irrelevant and hacked to sheet by the time either of the good mods were in near-playable states.
I re-iterate, 99% of mods are crap and 99% of game buyers won't touch them.
Okay then, if that's not enough to convince you then look at this:
The first mod on there adds FOURTEEN classes to Torchlight among other things...the unmodded version has only 3. I'm sure your 99% statement is unsubstantiated so I'm not going to touch it. But yeah a lot of mods are crap...that's why you only install the good ones .
Seriously though, as a gamer, why would you ever argue against mods? Mods are almost always GOOD for gamers. I can't really think of a single game that was ruined or made less by a mod. Cheats sure, but cheats are cheats...not mods.
Mods really did so much for the quality of games. Without DotA (mod) we would have no LoL or HoN. Without Counterstrike (mod) we probably wouldn't have Modern Warfare. Without Team Fortress, we probably wouldn't have class-based FPS games.
Actually if you look at the history of battlenet and what they're doing with it there will probably be mods eventually. However the only mods you'll be able to use are going to be approved mods downloaded from Blizzard, for a fee. This is already being implemented for Starcraft 2. People who make mods can then get paid for them and Blizzard will get it's cut. Keep that in the back of your mind for when I come back and say "I told you so."
Actually in Starcraft nearly all of the mods are free, they are just distributed through Battle.net...Blizzard just gives modders to option to "publish" a mod if it's really good (think DotA quality) and sell it through Battle.Net. Blizzard of course takes a share of the profit as the distributor and owner of the IP.
I have no problem with this. I actually applaud it, it encourages modding. I don't care about paying money for a good mod, I just don't like it when a company shoots their game in the foot by making in unmoddable for no good reason.
To anyone who thinks that mods are little more than "cheats" like teleport, map-hack, etc. I really urge you to look at this page for just a few minutes: http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
This is a mod called Median XL for a game that Diablo 3 will probably be similar to, namely DIABLO 2!
The mod adds TONS of content to the game like new classes, new skills, new systems, new items, new monsters, etc. etc.
THIS is what Blizzard is disallowing when they say no mods. Why would anyone ever be happy about that? Many mods are WAY better than expansion packs that the developer would ever put out.
That is one of 2 mods produced within the 10+ years since D2 was released that had anything substantial, yet no new zones, no involving storyarcs, no new real classes. Skills, quests, monsters. Not really that great honestly, and it took years just to get that. D2 was mostly irrelevant and hacked to sheet by the time either of the good mods were in near-playable states.
I re-iterate, 99% of mods are crap and 99% of game buyers won't touch them.
99% of previous buyers will no longer touch Diablo 3 with the announcment of the REAL MONEY auction house combined with the lack of Single Player.
First, the "RL Money" auction house shifts the game from a fun mutliplayer environment to "I don't want to group with that guy, he'll totally ninja the $20 item drop from this boss!". The game will shift from fun to "How can I profit today?". SCREW, THAT!
Second, SinglePlayer for the Diablo franchise was a main feature, because if your internet went out or you were going on an internetless trip somewhere with your laptop 9/10 you'd take one of the two Diablos with you if you were a fan of them. Now, you can't do that...and it's more of a top-down instances MMO that a multiplayer game like Diablo 1 or 2 were.
All in all, Diablo 3 will suffer from a combined effect of the following:
-Dumbed down kiddy WoW graphics, sacrificing the gritty artstyle of Diablo franchise for more WoW players.
-Dumbed down class system, making it easier && faster to forgive players for bad skill decisions (they're giving you the ability to respec your character for in-game, or RL?, currency).
-Dumbed down class selection, the only thing half decent is the Barbarian. I'm still in disbelief that they added a "Dual-Crossbow wielding Demon Hunter"....WoW reference anyone? ANYONE?!
-No Singleplayer
-No Mods
-Real Money Auction House, a way to "combat" the mediocre market of chinese item sellers as an excuse to dip their own hands into the proverbial cookie jar of money. The "item market" in D2 wasn't even that prevelant. Yet, somehow Blizzard turned it into a major "issue to be dealt with".
The Diablo franchise is over, and will most likely get a "Return to Roots" reboot in 5-10years. HOPEFULLY our game will be returned to us sooner, but Diablo 3 is NOT Diablo.
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i see no issue with any of these expecially the no mods...who cares about mods...go play wow if u want mods/addons..we dont want your kind in the Diablo world...and as for real money AH..have u played D2 l8tly u can buy all the items for RL money online...and no single player is meh cuz most of the world has internet so i see no issue there...
Dont liek the way the game is then dont buy it wont hurt my feelings or that of blizzards im shur...game looks awseom and i look forward to playign it as i want to knwo what the story line is...
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Dont forget steam, Steam is Never been a main stream supporter of games. Im sure in the next 6 months to a year they will be bankrupt and I wont be able to play any games I bough threw them.
Frankly, Diablo 3 no off line, is what ever. Who honeslty thought there was gonna be an offline mode? They made the new verison of battle.net just for this. SC2 has an offline mode, but you have to activate it the first time, anyone with crapy internet connections, or still running Vintage 56K, still dont need to be buying new computers to be playing new games like Diablo 3. Go and spend the 15 bucks a month for some damn DSL. If you live out in the boonies, sorry, go ride a cow.
The AH for Real money is gonna be intresting to see, Im sure blizzard will put on a 15% broker fee, so they will be getting a nice slice of pie on there.
As for the couple of thousand people gonna protest the game, not buying it cus there no offline, or the AH for real money, well I dont think its gonna hurt the biggest MMO company out there if you dont buy there newest game. Honestly im not sure what people even view this as an issue, there not forecing you to buy the game, there not gonna make you spend your hard earned cash on items from the AH, its diablo, Phat lutz drop every time you kill a boss. better be quick on grabbing that lutz, its diablo, and the horrors of having to have an online connection in order to play diablo 3. Ohh no the pain... games with online connections, I never..
Blizzard can kiss my ass. I used to have nothing but respect for the company, but not anymore. I'm disgusted to think that the company I held above all others has turned to such crap. Starcraft II is a joke, and now Diablo 3 is going to be too. Way to screw up the franchise Blizzard.
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Blizzard can go fuck off themselves I used to love this company for their gamers first dedication but now they are a bunch of moneygrabbing customer pissing off idiots and it all started with Activision.
real money auction house, no solo play, no mods, no talent trees, no customizeable stats and no wardrobe so what is a left?
A game thats doesn't deserve to have the name Diablo.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
none of that phases me , still gonna play
I haven't really been excited about Diablo 3. The game mechanics seem to lack a lot of what made the first and second Diablo games so addictive, and I'm not thrilled about the new art direction. Still, all Blizzard games have a few things going for them that make them a safe purchase. They are always polished almost to perfection, they're fun to play in 20-30 minute bursts, and they're always made to run well on outdated hardware, which means they will run smoothly on a decent laptop.
With this in mind, I figured I'd get Diablo 3 just to have something to kill time with in airports and hotel rooms while travelling... but I guess only those with a pirated version will get to do that. Sure, you can get wireless access almost anywhere, and mobile broadband isn't *that* expensive, but I tend to avoid entering account info that can be tied to my credit card while connected to a public network. Besides, lack of internet connection is the only reason why I'd want to play Diablo or any of its clones these days, so I guess I'll stick to playing Diablo 2 in offline mode or trying out the new Torchlight.
On a side note, I've been playing Lost Vikings (released almost 20 years ago) a lot in DOSBox on my netbook lately. In another 20 years, that will most likely still be possible. Do you think the same will be true for Diablo 3? It's not really that relevant as very few games are worth replaying several years after release, but hopefully Blizzard will release a single-player offline patch for the game before pulling the plug on the online service.
Pretty much this! Unless you're the 0.00001% of the population that doesn't have internet there is no reason not too. Although for some reason it does look like these changes are going to weed out a lot of the population that is too dumb to figure out the positive impact of the features. Oh well, less idiots I have to play with.
Oh yes because only stupid people do not play Blizzard games, and you are not a biased Blizzard fan at all!
I am sorry but there legit reasons why people will not play this game, and for you to say there isn’t is completely asinine. God the way you people talk Blizzards games out sell every other game ever made. Well then why have they not beat Halo, GTA, or CoD sells records. So get off your high horse, not everyone has to see Blizzard as a god of gaming.
Blizzard's decent into the gutter with other notables like soe and EA started when they merged with Activision and shows no signs of changing. The gaming industry as a whole has been increasingly pissing me off over the past few years to the point that I may find something else to spend my disposable income on. Unlike say food and shelter, buying and playing video games is a luxury, not a necessity. Maybe I'll take up knitting as hobby rather than gaming.
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All these features just kill the gaming mood for me. It's bit like a woman in your bedroom, with granny panties. Ebay integrated to my games, seriously? No mods harms the creativity and community parts of the game. Having to online is a bitch for me and many others and it's just unnecessary. If you are fine with these, I understand, but long time gamers like me have certain standards. This is not only about the game itself, but also about the whole industry. If I fund this crap, there's going to be more Bobby Koticks in the industry than my nerves can withstand
yep blizzard fixed the age old dilema for pro gamer on how to make a living!they introduce real world money transaction for ah of dablo3!men you should have heard the gold seller cheer !i couldnt ear my own game sound and god knows most of the gold seller are in asia far from america!
The path Blizzard is walking is dangerous.
I get the piracy actions as its a massive drop of $$$ for any company.
But they do it a little to aggresive and let he good suffer from the bad.
At some point it shall backfire and iam sure D3 will sell alot less then before these announcements where made.
Time will tell, and knowing Blizzard and their fanbase, i bet they can let their fanbase eat shit and let them say it taste good :P
I take it you were never around when everyone was playing Diablo 1 & 2 in their heyday.
Lots played online and a good number played offline. And the 2 older games offered the gamer choice.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Would piracy really be that big problem, I wonder? Most people play Diablo II online, to my knowledge. I can't believe piracy is as big problem as some make it out to be. We've had several DRM free examples, that have made great profit. Not to mention Diablo III will most likely have plenty Chinese item farming accounts bought, so it's not like their box sales are suffering too much. Most profit will come from their Diablo-Ebay, too.
In my case, I don't buy exactly because of the anti piracy, and while I know that's not what majority does, it's still some people. It all just seems counter-productive to me.
For those thinking they'll just pickup a pirated version a few days after release that wont happen.
The requirment to be online is not to just to authenticate with the server from time to time it's so the content can be served to the player, characaters, their stashes, progress is all saved online to the server, dungeons are created on the server and sent to the client, mob drops and spawns come form the sever. In short it works just like an MMO.
The pro of this is that rules out 99.9% of hackers, the con only effects a tiny minory who chose to live in areas with dodgy internet or travel a lot.
SC2 pirated atleats 2.3 million times - and it does have offline single player.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Report-Starcraft-2-Pirated-More-than-2-3-Million-Times-167041.shtml
I think your initial statement a bit funny because all the people I know who played the Diablo games only played them as single player. I was very surprised to find out there was a robust multiplayer community.
Piracy is a huge deal.
The players have done this to themselves. Not "all" players but there are players out there who think nothing about pirating a game, playing it, sharing it with friends and moving on to the next game.
So companys want to not only recoup their developement costs and make a profit. So they are going to do whatever they can to get as much of that profit as they can.
which they should.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I might indeed be wrong, that most people play online. I'm kind of referring to the later life of the game, though. I don't think piracy is small problem, but still, I see these ways of fighting it back counter-productive. Then again, it's not like I disagree with adding these features, it just hapens to mean, that I lose my interest in the game. Doesn't mean it's much of a loss for Activision Blizzard though. Or is it?
EDIT: Oh, didn't Diablo II have an online mode, that didn't require authetication or something? Well either way, my claim was bullcrap now when I think about it.
I didn't say only stupid people don't play Blizzard games. In fact that is not even close to what I said. There will be many smart people who have no interest in the game for various reason; however, there are many who were interested in the game until these announcements. It is that subset of people who I was referring to and I'm glad I wont have to game with them.
To anyone who thinks that mods are little more than "cheats" like teleport, map-hack, etc. I really urge you to look at this page for just a few minutes: http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/
This is a mod called Median XL for a game that Diablo 3 will probably be similar to, namely DIABLO 2!
The mod adds TONS of content to the game like new classes, new skills, new systems, new items, new monsters, etc. etc.
THIS is what Blizzard is disallowing when they say no mods. Why would anyone ever be happy about that? Many mods are WAY better than expansion packs that the developer would ever put out.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Thatsa very outdated tbh appart from with kids, as the average game player is prob in their 30's this is not an issue. What blizzard corp want obviously is to make diabl 3 game but with the wow model. A good developer would take the best elements of Diable and very carefully take advantage of the good aspects of wow. However, what we seem to be seeing is a crude lets make wow in the diablo world, and the risk is you end up with exactly that, wow with a different graphic perspective.
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That is one of 2 mods produced within the 10+ years since D2 was released that had anything substantial, yet no new zones, no involving storyarcs, no new real classes. Skills, quests, monsters. Not really that great honestly, and it took years just to get that. D2 was mostly irrelevant and hacked to sheet by the time either of the good mods were in near-playable states.
I re-iterate, 99% of mods are crap and 99% of game buyers won't touch them.
Okay then, if that's not enough to convince you then look at this:
http://gamingmyway.com/2010/05/10/good-torchlight-mods/
The first mod on there adds FOURTEEN classes to Torchlight among other things...the unmodded version has only 3. I'm sure your 99% statement is unsubstantiated so I'm not going to touch it. But yeah a lot of mods are crap...that's why you only install the good ones
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Seriously though, as a gamer, why would you ever argue against mods? Mods are almost always GOOD for gamers. I can't really think of a single game that was ruined or made less by a mod. Cheats sure, but cheats are cheats...not mods.
Mods really did so much for the quality of games. Without DotA (mod) we would have no LoL or HoN. Without Counterstrike (mod) we probably wouldn't have Modern Warfare. Without Team Fortress, we probably wouldn't have class-based FPS games.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Actually in Starcraft nearly all of the mods are free, they are just distributed through Battle.net...Blizzard just gives modders to option to "publish" a mod if it's really good (think DotA quality) and sell it through Battle.Net. Blizzard of course takes a share of the profit as the distributor and owner of the IP.
I have no problem with this. I actually applaud it, it encourages modding. I don't care about paying money for a good mod, I just don't like it when a company shoots their game in the foot by making in unmoddable for no good reason.
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99% of previous buyers will no longer touch Diablo 3 with the announcment of the REAL MONEY auction house combined with the lack of Single Player.
First, the "RL Money" auction house shifts the game from a fun mutliplayer environment to "I don't want to group with that guy, he'll totally ninja the $20 item drop from this boss!". The game will shift from fun to "How can I profit today?". SCREW, THAT!
Second, SinglePlayer for the Diablo franchise was a main feature, because if your internet went out or you were going on an internetless trip somewhere with your laptop 9/10 you'd take one of the two Diablos with you if you were a fan of them. Now, you can't do that...and it's more of a top-down instances MMO that a multiplayer game like Diablo 1 or 2 were.
All in all, Diablo 3 will suffer from a combined effect of the following:
-Dumbed down kiddy WoW graphics, sacrificing the gritty artstyle of Diablo franchise for more WoW players.
-Dumbed down class system, making it easier && faster to forgive players for bad skill decisions (they're giving you the ability to respec your character for in-game, or RL?, currency).
-Dumbed down class selection, the only thing half decent is the Barbarian. I'm still in disbelief that they added a "Dual-Crossbow wielding Demon Hunter"....WoW reference anyone? ANYONE?!
-No Singleplayer
-No Mods
-Real Money Auction House, a way to "combat" the mediocre market of chinese item sellers as an excuse to dip their own hands into the proverbial cookie jar of money. The "item market" in D2 wasn't even that prevelant. Yet, somehow Blizzard turned it into a major "issue to be dealt with".
The Diablo franchise is over, and will most likely get a "Return to Roots" reboot in 5-10years. HOPEFULLY our game will be returned to us sooner, but Diablo 3 is NOT Diablo.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
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i see no issue with any of these expecially the no mods...who cares about mods...go play wow if u want mods/addons..we dont want your kind in the Diablo world...and as for real money AH..have u played D2 l8tly u can buy all the items for RL money online...and no single player is meh cuz most of the world has internet so i see no issue there...
Dont liek the way the game is then dont buy it wont hurt my feelings or that of blizzards im shur...game looks awseom and i look forward to playign it as i want to knwo what the story line is...