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and so the cat is out of the bag! EA has done it again! [High Rez Textures Thread]
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Forgive my ignorance, what is bad about the hero engine ? Have any other top MMOs used it ? Curious..
People on this forum seem to love claiming false advertising delibertaly lying to customers and otherwise nefarious activities. If you really believe this and have the evidence, don't post it hear, take them to court. You should have no trouble in winning a lawsuite. Otherwise, feel free to complain, gripe, and otherwise make you opinion known on these forums, but keep the criminal allegations to a minimum.
I self identify as a monkey.
I have a right to claim fake sue as much as the next guy!!!!
I have to admit, I didn't read the whole thread. But as someone who really enjoys SWTOR and is having a lot of fun going through my character's storyline I just have one thing to say.
I never noticed the transition to high resolution textures in cinematics. Know why? Because I don't care. In or out of cinematics the game looks like something a 10 year old would play on the XBox.
If you're seriously upset about the game's graphics going from looking like crap, to looking less like crap well I don't really know what to say to you.
Now to log in to continue my adventure!
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
"I have to briefly talk about MMOs and their engines."
Nope you just have to talk about TOR and its rubbish choice of engine! SOE FL engine cleans the floor with this engine and certainly doesn't have the restrictions EA are making out for excuses, as do other engines out there who certainly don't fit EA's excuse of " other MMO's and their engines" blame game. No the truth is you picked an engine that had other short comings,but you wanted some of it pros leaving you to make up long BS reasons to explain yourself like this. I have one word for you EA “tessellation” come into the 21 century and use it! You may of not had this issue in the first place, but oh wait they can't do that, they've got console plans for it no doubt!
Well thats certainly an unbiased way to look at things isnt it
The consumers.
Time and time again they fall for the same hype machine without checking the facts and actually waiting to see what the game looks like and how it plays when it is released.
Seems I told you so?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4347027#4347027
Funcom>> Heh heh. Did you see THAT? We teased themn a bit and had a restricted Beta and then pre sold thousands of games based on HYPE and a well known IP and we cleaned up! It was a couple of weeks until they figured out the game wasn't complete with all the features turned on!
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Bioware>> Holy Crap. You can't be serious? I want in! Let me! Let me! I gotz Star Wars!
Funcom>> Wait for me! Wait.... I WANT TO GO AGAIN! These guys are n00bz!
Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.
I've seriously lost count of how many things they are going to "look into" or that are in the "future plans".
You seriously named your character Empress........?
I agree, there are plenty of other reasons I'm not staying past my 30 days, but it's still just 1 more thing about the game that makes it feel low to mediocre quality. There are so many things that add up.
I think people need to take a chill pill. I don't play TOR and I am certainly not a fanboy but I think that getting worked up over graphics is stupid. The game looks okay, it is not top notch graphics but who cares?
The shame of gaming, the worst kind of gamer, and one that gives other gamers a bad name by hating on a game because the graphics aren't realistic enough for them, when instead, they should be looking for smooth controls, varied moves/abilities, smooth gameplay with few bugs, and above all, fun.
source:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=graphics%20whore
Nuff said.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
It's because everything in RIFT is done with really high quality and attention to detail, which is what TOR lacks in so many things. The problem with RIFT, however, is that it's just boring. It's more of a clone than TOR by a long shot. So then the argument could be made, which is a fair argument - is it better to have high quality attention to detail but boring gameplay, or low quality / attention to detail but fun gameplay?
I argue there should be both - which neither TOR or RIFT is.
These are different kind of issues with different devs working on it! When it comes to engine technology, each dev has it's own speciality!
SOE in fact hired specifically a developer, specialized in graphics technology to implement Shader 3.0 in EverQuest 2. He was doing a damn good job, but as so often with $OE, he was pulled off the project again and moved to DCUO before he was finished!
He was actually really a nice guy, talking a lot on the forums and working closely with the community on the PTS.
That's because forums like these are driven entirely by drama. Where's the fun if you have to rely on things like facts and reality? It's much easier to be an armchair lawyer and think that you might know more than the actual attorneys that companies like EA have on retainder.
No matter what you think and no matter how you insult the people who are rightfully upset about this!
A large chunk of the SW:TOR community stood up on the official forums and it has helped, as EA/Bioware is now actually going to adress this in patch 1.2 !
Lot's of people did cancel and were prepared to vote with their wallet to show their dissatisfaction with the company!
So you see! Sometimes it actually working standing up together as community and rise up, instead of just keep eating the bullet and bend over and kiss their butts and let them get away with this kind of shady underhand moves and bad decisions!
Just saying.
WOW yes a major address they are going to enable high textures on your own character is about all I summed up from Stephen Reids post.
Its still garbage that a game pulls a major visual option because SOME may not be able to run it, lets hope not all developers follow suit or we will all be playing games that look quake because little jonnies onboard Intel 945 can't run anything better.
It's a start and at least better than the crap we've got now.
Still gonna keep my sub canceled tho (and I am not the only one). After that crap statement full of lies they pulled yesterday, insulting our inteligence (and frankly continueing doing so) I don't believe a single word coming out from EA/Bioware anymore.
I am gonna take a "wait and first see" approach on this one.
When they gonna put these changes on PTS somewhere next month, I will wait till I see some player made screenshots first, before I even consider resubbing again.
One thing is sure, they really tried to rub the community the wrong way yesterday! Thinking we gamers are stupid and take everything they say for truth!
This is why us so called haters are good for games and fanboys are bad. We make sure improvement and progress are done by highlighting deficiencies, fanboys try to silent any criticism and thus tries to prevent progress and improvement. Ironic, but true.
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Whether one finds it acceptable or not it is bait and switch. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and put it down to incompetance rather than a deliberate bussines decision. There are bigger issues anyway like ability lag and other engine issues. If and when they sort those out I guess the will re-enable the high res textures. It's the landscape textures I find really sh*tty anyway.
And this is the official responce:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xreasonz
This was how they look during BETA up to the final weekends of testing.
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3...lmorra__9_.jpg
It was stated in the beta forums which are now gone that they were removing high-res textures in order to cut down the amount of data the players needed to download for the final weekends of test. After a number of player voiced their concerns over the suddenly lower textures in the game they stated that the final game will look much better and not to worry.
That screenshot is from a cinematic in-game. As stated, cinematic scenes use high resolution textures because we have control over how many characters are rendered on-screen at once. This is how the game was always intended to look in cinematics. We did not 'remove' high resolution textures - they were always in the game for use in cinematics.
With that said, thank you for all of your responses. We understand everyone's desires around this issue, and although it's not going to be an overnight fix, as mentioned we're working on addressing this. Many of the suggestions you have made are similar to potential changes the development team is investigating.
I rounded up the development team once more and had another discussion, and wanted to update you with a better timeline and some more precise details on what we're doing right now.
The first major changes will be in our next major Game Update, which will have the version number of 1.2. Those changes will bring greater visual fidelity to your character and those around you, but will still allow for good performance in situations where a lot of characters are on-screen at once. In other words, for those screenshots of your character in their best gear, you should see a marked improvement.
Other potential changes are being discussed right now – as I said, many of which are similar to changes suggested by many of you. As usual, you’ll see these sorts of changes on our Public Test Server before they make it into the live game. Right now we cannot commit to a live date for the 1.2 Game Update, but it will be within Q1 2012.
link:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1499874#edit1499874
It's not that they are 'not top notch' it's that they are not up to the standard of all of the advertising for the game. In fact as of yesterday they still had in game footage on there site that you just can not get with the release product.
I just chose your post as it was nearest, loads of other people defending this with the same argument.
That's why I keep my sub canceled! He only replied to that particular post, to keep insulting our inteligence, while other beta testers have posted screenshots of actual gameplay WITH HighRes textures! Because IT WAS available in the old beta client, before the Open Beta test weekends started.
That guy posted that picture, as at that time he took it, there was no difference in quality between cutscenes and gameplay!
I don't believe a single word coming from EA/Bioware anymore. I will wait and see first that they actually come through with these promisses. I have seen them before and seen them unfulfilled.
Stephen Reid is really making a complete fool out of himself, as their OWN website is full of Gameplay screenshots showing the HighRes textures! It's becoming hilarious and sad at the same time really.
I never knew that BIoware promised high resolution textures, or if they ever did. Regardless, I'm happy with how the game looks and plays on the highest setting possible. I don't play a game for its graphics, so no backlash from me either.
The high setting does nothing, you are playing in low, have fun with your game that was designed in 2000.
Lmao. What a blatantly false lie. I play the game on high settings and it looks nothing at all like that second screenshot. If you're going to lie, at least make it believable.
Also, LOL @ this whole "debacle", if you can even call it that. I'm too busy waiting 2 hours and 20 mins to hurry and log back in on my last off night before work. So I chose to come read the forums... Big mistake. But very LOL worthy.