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SoE, next question.
Reading these threads I honestly feel like I am playing a different game. i absolutely love the game, maybe I am mad or is my taste that bad?
Forget hater, I think yours in an obsession that needs to be diagnosed. Wow, take a break from anything gaming before you pop a vein, they re games lol.
your not the only one m8.....loving it also.....but i do have to admit that it still has flaws, but still very enjoyable game imho.
ps: loads of gamers realy need a break from powerlvling imo...they rush to the end* just to complain there aint enough content in it......makes me lol.
* because thats where the fun is???? repeating dungeons (flashpoints; whatever the name).
My highest char is 30 and working on about 4 other chars as well......enjoying every little story detail untill now.....have not roleplayed a mmorpg in years like this.......so i like it ALOT.
just my 2 copperz.
No, this game needs to succeed.
Then other publishers and studios will realise that only by having a huge budget can WoW's sub number be even remotely neared in the standard model of thempark MMOs.
Not many will be able to commit that kind of budget so they'll be forced to try and innovate instead.
It s pretty simple really. There are a select few , that do nothing but whine that the game wasn t catered to their style. It s a good quality game, that as they say is severly lacking. Not at all, I never once logged in and had to look for quests, I could always hit a button and join a warzone, flashpoints, yep theres plenty, titles to gain, yep, space combat, oh ya a mini game they re adding to, open world pvp they re adding to and improving now. Raids, yep they re there.
Bottom line is, it s a good themepark game, with a great story added. The select few whiners are so butt hurt, they have to rehash the same crap over and over and over, to I guess sound important.
It is rather amusing to me anyways, and they keep me entertained, while I m getting ready for work, and dont have time to log into SWTOR.
All right another 14 page thread for TOR haters to whine and complain.
it is true i dont mind critic but hate formed as critic from the same 10 people ?
Yep. Another day on these boards, another whine thread. It's like clockwork.
People are delusional if they think that if TOR fails, suddenly devs will see the light and we'll see a string of big budget sandboxes lol. If TOR with its' big name IP and big budget fails, good luck selling investors on ANY big budget MMO again...much less a niche format like sandbox, unless Blizzard's new MMO is a sandbox and it does really well long term.
lets compare!its like the gaming community all joining up and yelling here margulis need to fail in his life!does it make sense!you dont know the people gees!as for the industry being stuck in this genre etc .let get this straigh out most company use console to gage how to design their title ,this is the main reason you dont see game in 64 bit with tessalation dx11 is often lacking in the title.it isnt because they cant they chose to stick with the console power curve .so when ps4 or xbox 460 come out it will be the same they ll design with console in mind first not computer!
And what about all the people who actually is in love with the swtor?. I mean, you know guys? people is having a lot of fun playing swtor, and at the end, when you play games is all about how fun it can be. Haters gonna hate, and for some reaso swtor is growing, i wonder why?
No, you are mistaking what I am saying for "you must buy products that you hate or don't like'. Not saying that at all. I am saying that if a lot of money keeps getting invested in these products and they never do well then you will find less people investing in them.
@ Yamota:
You have a very good point. But I wonder how many millions of dollars can be invested in products that just don't seem to be making healthy returns. So sure, there are people who will analyze a product so that they can find better ways to create these products for better returns but this market is very fickle, it takes a huge amount of money to make these things, they never seem to have enough time and it takes too long to make them just to have them bring very little to the table.
And people are already looking at these products and analyzing them and this is what we have gotten for that effort. I"m not saying that mmo money is gong to dry up but it does seem like a horrible investment given what has been released over time.
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Skating on slippery slopes.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
It sounds like you got yourself too hyped. I have been playing mmos close to ten years, and one thing I learned is not to get yourself hyped up, because in the end you are just going to be disappointed. However, if you have been following SWTOR since it was announced like I have, the game reflects everything Bioware has announced before release. I dont see why you think it would be anything different then any other cookie cutter mmo out there. Take this from the Bioware developer Greg Zeschuck...
"It [World of Warcraft] is a touchstone. It has established standards, it's established how you play an MMO. Every MMO that comes out, I play and look at it. And if they break any of the WoW rules, in my book that's pretty dumb," Zeschuk said."
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/02/10/bioware-wow-is-the-touchstone-for-the-old-republic/
That quote there, was all over the internet at the time. It should have brought your hype way down. Dont get me wrong, I like SWTOR for what it is, but never got to excited about it.
Now for the other part you said about hoping it would fail. Why would you hope for something that is harmless to fail? You are talking about peoples jobs? You think that all of those people that were hired to make the game would keep there jobs if it failed? No. It is just like someone saying to you that they wish you would fail in what you do. How would you take that?
Just because something doesnt live up to your expectations doesnt mean it should be banished from existence.
cause there are 90% casual gamer and 10% of pro gamer!
and also this game is actually good
For a single player story telling level trough all contend SWTOR does a good job.
It keep going to get better and better up to level 30 when you finish act 1.
We are around the 30 day mark now and i stopped que for pvp warzone's.
PvP (even with state of the art pc's) is horrible.
Ability's responce time feels late, not like wow at least wich have the best responce time in any mmo i ever played.
Level 50's with massive amounts of expertise rampaging down on level 10/49's who participate. ( new patch fix that with L50 bracket) patch postponed on the last second.
Since today i get discoonected without any reason every 15 min, happens in pvp or any other place in the world.
For my son it started last night but he has wireless so i tought stuff like that could happen once in while.
Trying to play again tonight and if the problem still excists i think i quit SWTOR and wait for something else.
I can tell many things why SWTOR is losing appeal to me, but people have to find out for themselves why they play or going to quit.
I played on a medium server wich is now deserted, rerold last week on a full server out of fear of Warhammer/Aion dejavu's.
The forum is plagued with pvp buggs and no real answer is given.
The testers dont tell much info either but say many pvp problems still be the same in patch 1.1.....
For me this is a sign that Bioware is focusing on PVE contend alot like Blizzard does.
A dragon for pve contend needs to be hotfixed asap and pvp contend can wait a long time for attention.
I knew this but still i tought things cant be that bad.
But i need to say this, i always HATED questing in any mmo's i played, in SWTOR i love it.
But it stops around level 30 and after making 6 alts for the Empire and all around level 20/35 i notice the 1st real cracks in SWTOR.
Still this game is young and like all infants it needs to grow, but will it get to that stage ? i hope so, but the forecast aint pretty for pvp players and SWTOR has ALOT of pvp players in their house.
I know you don't want to believe it, but it has been said by more than one of the previous devs that the game was "bleeding" subs and they had been told to right the ship so to speak. In the months leading up to the NGE the game was losing at least 10k subs a month, which may not sound like alot, but for a game that peaked at 300k subs 10k is alot especially when it is happening every month. Could they have done something different to curb the losses and attract players back? I'm sure they could have, but they did what they did. They didn't do it because of "forum whiners" that did it because of "suit whiners" who expected a mmo with Star Wars on it to do much better than it was doing. At its peak it had 40 percent fewer subs than EQ (EQ at around 430k and SWG at around 300k). I'm sure it didn't please LA to have one of the best known IPs in the world being outsubbed by a previously unknown IP. Thus we received the NGE. Goodie for us.
There are people getting paid to play SWToR? How do I get that job?
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
SWTOR is just old simple stuff with shiny new skin, I mean for god's sake there's a ball pvp game in it, it's ridiculous.
Totally agree with OP
Amen Bro. +1 . Let it burn.
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Wrong.
Stop paying for crappy/subpar games and they'll scurry away along with the rest of the rats into obscurity.
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i must have done something wrong cause i did all content and i am 36 and still havent met this act 1 end, i must be on the proper planet then!
Well not sure i want it to fail. real people do work there. and that would be cruel to want 100's of people to loose income because it's another whatever you want to tag it.
The game could suffer low expectations and subs and the good of that would be to get crackin on those features they promised would be added after launch.you can't expect to ride high on the premise it's starwars. people still will leave the game if it's the same old suck we played since 2004
wish they would swing it to add some sandboxie features and get that dam space rail mini game replaced. get those dam guild ships in now and make the ship a home you can drop your shit it in pronto. but they wont many of us know that from experience.
A little tale of me... as an interlude to this magnificent thread.
I remember the time when I was a teenager.. waiting for my first sexual experience with a woman... Hype was so high... after watching the porn and expecting some great partners doing it all... I even had books and lube and condoms... tried them just to know the feeling... and it finally arrived.
And then...after the same first time, I felt so delusional and disappointed on how it was quick and dirty... and I thought to myself, this girl wasn't good since I did not enjoy it. I went on a trip to find the perfect woman for me... I slept with countless women only to find myself expecting much of the next one.. feeling more and more disappointed each time.
Finally, after this crusade of looking for the good woman, I found out I was gay... True story.
Moral of the story?
No, I am not saying that "haters" are gays but having a great hype of a game will only end with dissapointment and delusion. The game is fine and will be polished over time as all other games were.
Redefine the reasons you play MMOs is what people should do. I play MMOs because of the social aspect of it. I play with friends. Some like to steamroll people in PvP because they can feel superior. Some people want to play the economy by amassing pile of money.
To each his own but if you don't find what you were looking for, just continue your journey. No need to spill your hate or dissappointment expecting consolation and convince people you have been tricked by a mega corporation like EA to buy this game like they were using a cheap Jedi mind trick.
When the hype is so high, the fall is long and painful.