Originally posted by Roin We should reallly thank all the Eve-Online players with their multiple accounts. For ruining yet another thing on MMORPG.com. Game Ratings, then hopping in threads to post advertisments for Eve-Online. Another fun event ruined by a bunch of people that treat their game like a religious cult. Just disappointing to say the least. After always hearing them preach about how mature their community is. Anyone that thinks those results are accurate. All I will say is 'tsk tsk'.
back up your topic with some facts please. im talking about the first paragraph. are you basing this post on FACTS or your own personal opinion?
Originally posted by Knallkopp Originally posted by Emotions how long did it took those guys to go from wow back to anarchy online?so the dude calling me a retard isn't a stupid little kid? ok then what do you call a person that can't hold his temper and has the urge of calling other people retardthat is a stupid little kid imo don't know what you think about it :d
They played WoW a few month, many of em have different lvl 60 toons and just miss the endgame concept. There has to be more in a game then just 'get the best items'.
And to the dewd calling you a 'retard': I didnt saw that the first time, overread that - what he said isnt really nice indeed, but to come up with arguments like 'your a stoopid lil kid' etc doesnt prove that you're any better !! I wouldnt response anything to this, I'd just ignore it if someone calls me a retard because of my opinion i share with others. Noone has the right to insult you for just an opinion. But if that is even getting near you, then you may have a problem, who knows.
Originally posted by Roin I give up wasting time talking to Eve-Online fans. You tell them you find the game boring. They reply with "oh it's because you didn't try hard enough". Should you have to go looking for fun everytime you log on? You tell them you didn't like the game. "oh it's because the game is too complicated for you" Though the person who dislikes the game makes no comment on difficulty. You'll hear the same carbon copy replies from every Eve-Online fan when he defends his/her game. Just scroll up and read some of the replies. No one is disputing whether or not 'YOU' like the game. Yet you all seem to have a hard time accepting that most of 'US' don't like it. So i'm done with this thread. We'll just agree to disagree. This is my last comment on this thread. Side Note: I apologize to the MMORPG.com staff. Seems comments by me and a few others. Have de-railed this topic. Which is supposed to be about the Readers Choice Awards. Just like to say thanks again for your continued contributions to the MMORPG Community as a whole. Best free MMORPG related site on the net hands down.
ok, i will use this post as an example of what i would say to that...EVE IS MADE FOR A SPECIFIC AUDIENCE, JUST LIKE WOW IS MADE FOR A SPECIFIC AUDIENCE, CAPICHE?
i have no use to prove my self the only reason i am here is to let people know that this news post on mmorpg means nothing
to let people from other mmorpgs understand that wow is the best if you need proof of that just look @ the number of people that are playing it and if you still don't think wow is better than omg what proof do you need ? and if you say that eve is just not popular cause no advertisiment well if they had more money they pbb would do it but they don't have money cause no one wants to give alot of money for that game otherwise there would be advertisiment won't it?
it is maybe hard to get it trough some people thick skulls but just get that fact, eve has some better aspect but in general wow is better
the only reason that some people play eve rather than wow is that they have different taste in gameplay and they like the aspect that are different than wow but that doesn't make the game better
if you really love hard core pvp than it is normal for you people to be there cause wow doesn't have that
there is only 1 softwarecompany that was able to make something that is worse then there rivals and has most people the only reason for this is that they were first to release there software and that was microsoft
Perhaps EVE shouldn't even be listed on this site as it's supposed to be for 'Roleplaying' games? I played EVE for about 3 months but never once encountered anyone rp'ing!
I think the reason they've done so well in the awards as that they've actually managed to run an online game without pissing anyone off. People mainly leave out of boredom rather than because of game changes/balancing issues.
Originally posted by pingo All in all its stupid. advancing in a game that doesnt require playing does not make sense. Then its not a game anymore... then its just a waste of time. you play games to be entertained, not to let the game play for you.
Ah, but that's the kicker - EVE does require you to play. Not for skill training, but for money for ships, modules, implants, and updating your clone. Getting killed can be extremely expensive - I've lost a battleship with ~75 million ISK in modules on it before, and combined with the insurance cost on a new one, it was a net loss of over 100 million ISK. That's not chump change and can be extremely time-consuming to replace.
-Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Originally posted by Emotions pvp in eve is high likely better than wow BUTpvp in wow has alot of coinsequenses for example if one faction has more people than the other faction than some land pieces became unavailable for the faction that doesn have that many people or they jsut don't work to gether like the other factionill give an example there is a world piece called stranglethorn vale it is a level 30-40 zone and there is always a higher powered and a lower powered faction it doesn't show in a score board or anything like that but it is there and you feel it when you go play in that zone the only reason that you don't see it obviously is cause they are not fighting HARD for it cause there are no bonuses to win by it but like you think that pvp in this game can't change the world, it does try leveling there when youre faction is out numbered there youll just get the beating of a life time :dand no i am not saying that if youre faction has lower population that you are automaticly in a bad position just work to gether and all will be well
Now, hands down, STV is the most gankalicious zone there is.. .Lowbies trying to level will get rammed into the dust as soon as the 60's come. None the less it's great fun to be there when you're 60 ^^
However we have the same in EVE, but remove the lowbies who get hit hard by this (It sucks to be leveling when they go full fledged war) Add the fact that we make our own factions, it's not races vs races, it's political leaders vs political leaders (Or pirates or just mercanaries, who knows) In WoW when the war starts, you'll fight until either side gets bored or just has to log.. In EvE you win when the other part just can't afford the losses.. As war costs money and ships aOn that matter you know that Elves, Humans, Dwarves and Rogues will always fight against the Orcs, Trolls, Tauren and Undead.. In EvE.... Well.. That doesn't apply. It's all politics. (And RP in many times)
Sure the WoW STV fights were fun, but I got sick and tired of always knowing how it worked.. They had their fighters, all in the same epic gear. We had ours. Always always always. I always knew who I was fighting, it was always the alliance... Never changed.
In EvEyou just never know.... I like that feeling... That I Might be in war with my own kind, heck even my friends and at times even my own corporation (Rebellions have occured before)
Player run contra company run.. I know what I picked.
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW... It all sucked.
Originally posted by Emotions to let people from other mmorpgs understand that wow is the best if you need proof of that just look @ the number of people that are playing it and if you still don't think wow is better than omg what proof do you need ? and if you say that eve is just not popular cause no advertisiment well if they had more money they pbb would do it but they don't have money cause no one wants to give alot of money for that game otherwise there would be advertisiment won't it? it is maybe hard to get it trough some people thick skulls but just get that fact, eve has some better aspect but in general wow is better
Sorry but that is a moronic outlook on it...
for example, an unknown company may make a better product that microsoft windows, but are people gonig to buy it? no... because the unknown company has very little initial cash or advertising, production (ie: server/s in this discussion, and staff)
WoW has a massive following because it was announced by a popular company and all that, and i even saw it advertised on uk TV. Not only that, but it apeals to a more simple minded gamer, out for instant fun.
The numbers game is hardly "proof" that WoW is better. Hell, 90% of WoW players probably havent heard of eve, but i would say if every player played wow and eve for 2 months each, the final numbers would be very different.
What you dont get is that eve is a COMPLETELY different game, and you cant say "in general WoW is better" or vice versa. Its like saying lord of the rings is better than titanic.. they cant be compared.
Sure, aspects of them (graphics -even though wow graphics are a different concept from eve graphics- pvp etc)
i still think it is funny the only people that have answered to me so far are eve players i wonder what wow players are doing and what eve players are not doing :d
75% chance that some dude is gonna say we are @ work so we can't play so wow players are not @ work then?
I've flicked through this thread, and noticed a number of people have denounced EVE's success on the grounds the awards were nothing more than a popularity contest, and that this site is infested with EVE 'fanbois'.
Probably.
But in response, I have to ask the WoW, EQ2, DaoC, AO, and all other communities represented in the contest: Where were your fanbois? Why couldn't your own players, who for the greater part have a far larger user base than EVE, muster enough support to hammer EVE into the ground?
It should have been a simple matter. Did you post on your forums? Did you mention mmorpg.com to your mates ingame? Most of you must have not, because EVE won.
Oh, and someone is bound to make the argument "we didn't cos this is a stoopid contest that doesn't matter all yoo eve players are sad cos you think it matters" and so on. Remember, YOU are here too.
well the only reason i am here cause i quit the game for now so i got the time to be here
and i am pretty sure that the players from wow rather play the game than talk about what game is the best unlike some other players here
ill repeat my self the only reason i am here cause i quit the game for now that is why i am the only or almost the only wow player saying anything on this forum
Sorry, WoW fan bois and other kiddos... This is an MMORPG site, with mostly veteran MMO players. And no matter if you found WoW last year and now THINK you are xperienced MMOers... in truth you are still just kiddos.
EVE is the best, and most revolutionizing MMO to hit the market since the dawn of the genre, and I say that as a nonsubscriber to the game. Everything else out now are just copies of the first generation junk and not worthy of any attention other than as income generators.
No, EVE do not have the most subscribers... So, you count quality in sales?
You must LOVE Jessica Simpson music and Backstreet Boys!
QUALITY, is what this vote was about. And EVE is all about quality and creating something original. Knowing the minds of kiddos... that concept will not dawn on you for another 15 years.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force"
I have played just about every MMORPG out there, AC, AC2, EQ, EQ2, Ryzom, SWG, DAoC, Shadowbane, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, WoW and probably some I just can't remember. I have stopped playing them all except EVE which I have played since its inception in 2003.
I'm not sure why. Maybe because I'm an older player or because I'm tired of killing demons, skeletons and giants. Or maybe I'm tired of dealing with adolescent kids who can't even manage to hide their immaturity in their avatar. It could be I've pretty much had it with large corporations that are playing it safe with tried and true gaming formulas and stifiling creativity. Whatever it is EVE has proven a panecea to all of it.
The graphics are amazing considering their age. The economy is complex and dynamic. Prices on everyting are driven up or down dependent on availabiliy and demand which is controlled by the players. Corporations can merge into mega alliances that go to war with other alliances. Fleet battles can be spectacular. Without a large alliance feeding you information on enemy fleets, travel through space in low security space will be perilous.
PvP is deadly earnest when you go into combat with 120,000,000 isk battleship with 50,000,000 in combat mods and another 50,000,000 worth of implants wondering all the time if you should have mounted mega pulse lasers, cap rechargers and armor hardners and torps, or shield extenders, warp jammers, webbers, rail guns and heavy missles. The effectiveness of your weapons on your enemy will largely be determined by your skills v.s his/her skills and defensive setup, none of which you have any hard information about.
Yeah, I'm being a shameless fanboy. But the game is that good. As many have noted, it is not for those who are looking for quick rewards. It's not for grinders who come home from school and spend hours killing stuff to level. Thats not the way it works in EVE. Developing skills takes time (real time) and the numbers of pirates (PvP or NPC) you kill isn't going to improve them a bit.
Don't expect to make a comfortable habit of ganking peeps at jumpgates. Unlike so many MMORPGs there are consequences to your actions. Corporations find out about you and it won't be long before you make so many enemies and get a high enough price on your head that you are an irresistible target to the multitudes looking to make some extra cash. Its a self regulating environment and no one is invunerable.
EVE earned their accolades and I congradulate them.
Originally posted by Emotions you don't understand that? alright let me explain
the people that love wow are playing @ this moment and they don't surf on this site cause they are to busy playing the game eve on the other hand well you go to a location and you have like 20 minutes of afk time so no wonder you guys come voting here wow doesn't give you any free second of time and i quit wow btw because it hardly has any end game but i still think this is the best mmorpg out there AND i wil go back when expansion with a lot of end game comes out besides i am 22 years old and the only games i play are mmorpgs i almost did them all still need a few to check out
i don't mind how you act to me mate i don't care its not like i know you
That's a complete cop-out. It took what? 10 mins at most to fill in the polls? You're going to tell me that 50k-100k WOW players that are posting on the WOW forums couldn't take 10 mins to do the polls.
Arguing that EVE players can ALT-TAB out of game is a poor excuse when 10x times more WOW players are waiting in a queue line, browsing the forums, or just hanging out. So when a server is down for maintenance you're telling me a percentage of that gaming population couldn't find time for these polls? You're grasping at straws here.
On another note, I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that the reason EVE got the graphics award was due a number of vidoes that are frequently linked. It is something I rarely see of other MMOs. I know each MMO community produces vids, but those vids just don't seem to be accessible outside that community.
So now EVE is cool because its coming from this little indie iceland company?:/ Whatever..
I can understand the best graphics. Very nice art direction, but PvP? Lmao.
All in all its stupid. advancing in a game that doesnt require playing does not make sense. Then its not a game anymore... then its just a waste of time. you play games to be entertained, not to let the game play for you.
Im not sure if its crazy or right about the cospiracy theories about EVE fanboys coming in here and voting for EVE in everything, but we all know that this measures out in popularity contests.
Not a joke, reality bubby.
Yeah and SOE proved that only big corps, not small independent companies like CCP, are the only ones that can make quality games ... not!
Want me to show you what REAL pvp is ... come to Karan in the Aridia region of space. I'll show you what losing in a REAL pvp game means ... not disappearing to your home hearth but being sent back home in a body bag ("your clone has been activated").
So where are all the 5 million fanboys from WoW? I'm tired of hearing the fanboy excuse tbh. They can't hack it in a real pvp game (EVE) and they couldn't even be bothered to pvp in an open vote contest. Guess the WoW fanboys don't like their own game much ... that alone speaks VOLUMES!
Oh and I'd like to point out a few things to those that are whining about travel time in EVE: 1) space is HUGE you tard, we are not talking about one small planet but 5000+ STAR SYSTEMS 2) this is not Star Trek where normal science does not apply, get used to the limits of physics 3) no one said you have to go across the ENTIRE universe to do fun things, in fact you never need to if you find a nice spot to do what you want to (and there are many), only those with a bend toward trading need apply for long hauls, next time think outside of the box.
EVE is all those other MMORPGs + serious players. 1337 doooz need not apply. Stay in WoW PLEASE!
Originally posted by Fraggle Perhaps EVE shouldn't even be listed on this site as it's supposed to be for 'Roleplaying' games? I played EVE for about 3 months but never once encountered anyone rp'ing!I think the reason they've done so well in the awards as that they've actually managed to run an online game without pissing anyone off. People mainly leave out of boredom rather than because of game changes/balancing issues.
Actually there is quite a bit of RP'ing in EVE. But the key to finding this is finding a RP'ing corp and joining it. Understand that I'm a loooong time RPer. I don't do much of it in EVE but I do know that there is a large amount of it going on. The problem is that people don't reach out past the newb corp they start in so they never find those that are doing that in EVE. They just think that there is nothing more than mining, shooting a few low level rats (pirate ships), traveling and skill training. If you should come back to EVE, try asking in the Rookie Help or Help channel next time and I'm sure someone will steer you in the right direction.
As for not pissing people off, true that. CCP is one of the best customer service companies that I've had the pleasure of dealing with.
Game balance changes and boredom are things that always will make people leave a MMORPG (check out SWG for example). EVE is not for everyone, it's a complex and looong game. The game play can be intense or mind numbingly boring, but it gives the PLAYERS the choice of what they want to do and where they can go. EVE has NO limits to what a player can do, only the player is limited by their own abilities and mind set.
With all the comments I hear here that Eve is not a good PVP game. I say to you EVE IS ALL ABOUT PVP.
Every aspect of this game is PVP, from mining for the best roids to beating the other guy to the best trade routes, to Ramsoming some poor guy in a POD, to great 1v1 combat, to large scale 150 ppl fleet battles.
The is no where you can go in this game and be 100% safe for PvP. It might not always be combat PvP but it is PvP when you are competing for the best place to mine, trade, build, or hunt. It is PvP when you are warp jammed and ransomed so you can make the next jump, only to be ransomed again. It is PvP when you are escorting a fieghter to empire with a 50+ BS fleet. Geuss what you are escorting to protect them from...PLAYERS!!!
This is why we whine that we were not included in the PVP section, cuz THIS GAME IS ALL ABOUT PVP. Anyone that says otherwise does not understand Eve and that is why they didnt like after 2 days. This game is not for the mentally handicap.
This is why we whine that we were not included in the PVP section, cuz THIS GAME IS ALL ABOUT PVP. Anyone that says otherwise does not understand Eve and that is why they didnt like after 2 days. This game is not for the mentally handicap
Actually I'm considered mentally handicapped and play the game hardcore so how about changing it to 'kids' or something defining people who haven't reached mental adulthood?
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW... It all sucked.
Originally posted by Fraggle Perhaps EVE shouldn't even be listed on this site as it's supposed to be for 'Roleplaying' games? I played EVE for about 3 months but never once encountered anyone rp'ing!I think the reason they've done so well in the awards as that they've actually managed to run an online game without pissing anyone off. People mainly leave out of boredom rather than because of game changes/balancing issues.
Perhaps WoW should be taken away too, and SWG, and AO and EQ and .... you get my point.. RP means that you take on another role and you sure as hell do in EvE, on top of that there are quite a bunch of hardcore RPers too.. Never understood those guys but they're there too..
Point is, RP is in all games as long as people want to RP, and, well, I consider MMORPG.com to be for all MMO's who give you the option to RP... You can RP alone too you know.
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW... It all sucked.
So where are all the 5 million fanboys from WoW? I'm tired of hearing the fanboy excuse tbh. They can't hack it in a real pvp game (EVE) and they couldn't even be bothered to pvp in an open vote contest. Guess the WoW fanboys don't like their own game much ... that alone speaks VOLUMES!
WoW folks don't NEED to defend it. It has millions of players. EvE doesn't.
Besides, we're all playing WoW not inflating rankings on mmorp.com
Originally posted by Rabbitgod EvE has a server cluster that keeps growing inorder to support 23000 and rising players all in one world. Their are as many people on the one server in EvE as their are people living in my town.
Big deal, there are more people browsing this forum that lived in my home town, your point?
You guys can try and defend the puny 23k players online on "one world" but the fact remains it's a minority of the mmo players. Once you realize that you can stop trying to make everyone else think it's as big as WoW or even EQ2.
I bet WoW has more players online than a LARGE city, not some hick town.
But to try and get this crap back on topic. EvE even in the listing of "reader choice" awards when there are millions more WoW players just proves that these "awards" is bogus or inflated by one set of gamers coming here and voting. I guess thats ok though since it's just "readers choice for mmorpg.com". Guess next time we should just post the URL to vote on the WoW/EQ2 forums and watch the EvE guys weep.
Originally posted by Celestian Originally posted by CastrinSo where are all the 5 million fanboys from WoW? I'm tired of hearing the fanboy excuse tbh. They can't hack it in a real pvp game (EVE) and they couldn't even be bothered to pvp in an open vote contest. Guess the WoW fanboys don't like their own game much ... that alone speaks VOLUMES!
WoW folks don't NEED to defend it. It has millions of players. EvE doesn't.
Besides, we're all playing WoW not inflating rankings on mmorp.com
with a average age of 16-17.... yes. The most 'youngsters' play this game, because of the design and marketing of it. Your arguments are childish, and u'd be normally not worth the effort to type any reply for you - but well... somehow i couldnt resist :P Get back to ur 'so ubzah leet zerging' - game, make some lvl grind get ur items and leave us alone :P EvE is not ur world, you lack in age - and in experience. And regarding on your playtime, you don't have to earn your own money and play at mom's basement U#re so not worth it, you won't know hrhr
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They played WoW a few month, many of em have different lvl 60 toons and just miss the endgame concept. There has to be more in a game then just 'get the best items'.
And to the dewd calling you a 'retard':
!!
I didnt saw that the first time, overread that - what he said isnt really nice indeed, but to come up with arguments like 'your a stoopid lil kid' etc doesnt prove that you're any better
I wouldnt response anything to this, I'd just ignore it if someone calls me a retard because of my opinion i share with others. Noone has the right to insult you for just an opinion. But if that is even getting near you, then you may have a problem, who knows.
cheers
de knaller
i have no use to prove my self the only reason i am here is to let people know that this news post on mmorpg means nothing
to let people from other mmorpgs understand that wow is the best if you need proof of that just look @ the number of people that are playing it and if you still don't think wow is better than omg what proof do you need ? and if you say that eve is just not popular cause no advertisiment well if they had more money they pbb would do it but they don't have money cause no one wants to give alot of money for that game otherwise there would be advertisiment won't it?
it is maybe hard to get it trough some people thick skulls but just get that fact, eve has some better aspect but in general wow is better
the only reason that some people play eve rather than wow is that they have different taste in gameplay and they like the aspect that are different than wow but that doesn't make the game better
if you really love hard core pvp than it is normal for you people to be there cause wow doesn't have that
there is only 1 softwarecompany that was able to make something that is worse then there rivals and has most people the only reason for this is that they were first to release there software and that was microsoft
Perhaps EVE shouldn't even be listed on this site as it's supposed to be for 'Roleplaying' games? I played EVE for about 3 months but never once encountered anyone rp'ing!
I think the reason they've done so well in the awards as that they've actually managed to run an online game without pissing anyone off. People mainly leave out of boredom rather than because of game changes/balancing issues.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Now, hands down, STV is the most gankalicious zone there is.. .Lowbies trying to level will get rammed into the dust as soon as the 60's come.
None the less it's great fun to be there when you're 60 ^^
However we have the same in EVE, but remove the lowbies who get hit hard by this (It sucks to be leveling when they go full fledged war)
Add the fact that we make our own factions, it's not races vs races, it's political leaders vs political leaders (Or pirates or just mercanaries, who knows)
In WoW when the war starts, you'll fight until either side gets bored or just has to log.. In EvE you win when the other part just can't afford the losses.. As war costs money and ships aOn that matter you know that Elves, Humans, Dwarves and Rogues will always fight against the Orcs, Trolls, Tauren and Undead..
In EvE.... Well.. That doesn't apply. It's all politics. (And RP in many times)
Sure the WoW STV fights were fun, but I got sick and tired of always knowing how it worked..
They had their fighters, all in the same epic gear. We had ours. Always always always.
I always knew who I was fighting, it was always the alliance... Never changed.
In EvEyou just never know.... I like that feeling... That I Might be in war with my own kind, heck even my friends and at times even my own corporation (Rebellions have occured before)
Player run contra company run.. I know what I picked.
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
It all sucked.
So true Sramota.
There is nothing to add actually.
Sorry but that is a moronic outlook on it...
for example, an unknown company may make a better product that microsoft windows, but are people gonig to buy it? no... because the unknown company has very little initial cash or advertising, production (ie: server/s in this discussion, and staff)
WoW has a massive following because it was announced by a popular company and all that, and i even saw it advertised on uk TV. Not only that, but it apeals to a more simple minded gamer, out for instant fun.
The numbers game is hardly "proof" that WoW is better. Hell, 90% of WoW players probably havent heard of eve, but i would say if every player played wow and eve for 2 months each, the final numbers would be very different.
What you dont get is that eve is a COMPLETELY different game, and you cant say "in general WoW is better" or vice versa. Its like saying lord of the rings is better than titanic.. they cant be compared.
Sure, aspects of them (graphics -even though wow graphics are a different concept from eve graphics- pvp etc)
75% chance that some dude is gonna say we are @ work so we can't play
so wow players are not @ work then? 
I've flicked through this thread, and noticed a number of people have denounced EVE's success on the grounds the awards were nothing more than a popularity contest, and that this site is infested with EVE 'fanbois'.
Probably.
But in response, I have to ask the WoW, EQ2, DaoC, AO, and all other communities represented in the contest: Where were your fanbois? Why couldn't your own players, who for the greater part have a far larger user base than EVE, muster enough support to hammer EVE into the ground?
It should have been a simple matter. Did you post on your forums? Did you mention mmorpg.com to your mates ingame? Most of you must have not, because EVE won.
Oh, and someone is bound to make the argument "we didn't cos this is a stoopid contest that doesn't matter all yoo eve players are sad cos you think it matters" and so on. Remember, YOU are here too.
well the only reason i am here cause i quit the game for now so i got the time to be here
and i am pretty sure that the players from wow rather play the game than talk about what game is the best unlike some other players here
ill repeat my self the only reason i am here cause i quit the game for now that is why i am the only or almost the only wow player saying anything on this forum
Sorry, WoW fan bois and other kiddos... This is an MMORPG site, with mostly veteran MMO players. And no matter if you found WoW last year and now THINK you are xperienced MMOers... in truth you are still just kiddos.
EVE is the best, and most revolutionizing MMO to hit the market since the dawn of the genre, and I say that as a nonsubscriber to the game. Everything else out now are just copies of the first generation junk and not worthy of any attention other than as income generators.
No, EVE do not have the most subscribers... So, you count quality in sales?
You must LOVE Jessica Simpson music and Backstreet Boys!
QUALITY, is what this vote was about. And EVE is all about quality and creating something original. Knowing the minds of kiddos... that concept will not dawn on you for another 15 years.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
I have played just about every MMORPG out there, AC, AC2, EQ, EQ2, Ryzom, SWG, DAoC, Shadowbane, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, WoW and probably some I just can't remember. I have stopped playing them all except EVE which I have played since its inception in 2003.
I'm not sure why. Maybe because I'm an older player or because I'm tired of killing demons, skeletons and giants. Or maybe I'm tired of dealing with adolescent kids who can't even manage to hide their immaturity in their avatar. It could be I've pretty much had it with large corporations that are playing it safe with tried and true gaming formulas and stifiling creativity. Whatever it is EVE has proven a panecea to all of it.
The graphics are amazing considering their age. The economy is complex and dynamic. Prices on everyting are driven up or down dependent on availabiliy and demand which is controlled by the players. Corporations can merge into mega alliances that go to war with other alliances. Fleet battles can be spectacular. Without a large alliance feeding you information on enemy fleets, travel through space in low security space will be perilous.
PvP is deadly earnest when you go into combat with 120,000,000 isk battleship with 50,000,000 in combat mods and another 50,000,000 worth of implants wondering all the time if you should have mounted mega pulse lasers, cap rechargers and armor hardners and torps, or shield extenders, warp jammers, webbers, rail guns and heavy missles. The effectiveness of your weapons on your enemy will largely be determined by your skills v.s his/her skills and defensive setup, none of which you have any hard information about.
Yeah, I'm being a shameless fanboy. But the game is that good. As many have noted, it is not for those who are looking for quick rewards. It's not for grinders who come home from school and spend hours killing stuff to level. Thats not the way it works in EVE. Developing skills takes time (real time) and the numbers of pirates (PvP or NPC) you kill isn't going to improve them a bit.
Don't expect to make a comfortable habit of ganking peeps at jumpgates. Unlike so many MMORPGs there are consequences to your actions. Corporations find out about you and it won't be long before you make so many enemies and get a high enough price on your head that you are an irresistible target to the multitudes looking to make some extra cash. Its a self regulating environment and no one is invunerable.
EVE earned their accolades and I congradulate them.
That's a complete cop-out. It took what? 10 mins at most to fill in the polls? You're going to tell me that 50k-100k WOW players that are posting on the WOW forums couldn't take 10 mins to do the polls.
Arguing that EVE players can ALT-TAB out of game is a poor excuse when 10x times more WOW players are waiting in a queue line, browsing the forums, or just hanging out. So when a server is down for maintenance you're telling me a percentage of that gaming population couldn't find time for these polls? You're grasping at straws here.
On another note, I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that the reason EVE got the graphics award was due a number of vidoes that are frequently linked. It is something I rarely see of other MMOs. I know each MMO community produces vids, but those vids just don't seem to be accessible outside that community.
Not a joke, reality bubby.
Yeah and SOE proved that only big corps, not small independent companies like CCP, are the only ones that can make quality games ... not!
Want me to show you what REAL pvp is ... come to Karan in the Aridia region of space. I'll show you what losing in a REAL pvp game means ... not disappearing to your home hearth but being sent back home in a body bag ("your clone has been activated").
So where are all the 5 million fanboys from WoW? I'm tired of hearing the fanboy excuse tbh. They can't hack it in a real pvp game (EVE) and they couldn't even be bothered to pvp in an open vote contest. Guess the WoW fanboys don't like their own game much ... that alone speaks VOLUMES!
Oh and I'd like to point out a few things to those that are whining about travel time in EVE:
1) space is HUGE you tard, we are not talking about one small planet but 5000+ STAR SYSTEMS
2) this is not Star Trek where normal science does not apply, get used to the limits of physics
3) no one said you have to go across the ENTIRE universe to do fun things, in fact you never need to if you find a nice spot to do what you want to (and there are many), only those with a bend toward trading need apply for long hauls, next time think outside of the box.
EVE is all those other MMORPGs + serious players. 1337 doooz need not apply. Stay in WoW PLEASE!
Peace.
Congratulations, CCP!
Actually there is quite a bit of RP'ing in EVE. But the key to finding this is finding a RP'ing corp and joining it. Understand that I'm a loooong time RPer. I don't do much of it in EVE but I do know that there is a large amount of it going on. The problem is that people don't reach out past the newb corp they start in so they never find those that are doing that in EVE. They just think that there is nothing more than mining, shooting a few low level rats (pirate ships), traveling and skill training. If you should come back to EVE, try asking in the Rookie Help or Help channel next time and I'm sure someone will steer you in the right direction.
As for not pissing people off, true that. CCP is one of the best customer service companies that I've had the pleasure of dealing with.
Game balance changes and boredom are things that always will make people leave a MMORPG (check out SWG for example). EVE is not for everyone, it's a complex and looong game. The game play can be intense or mind numbingly boring, but it gives the PLAYERS the choice of what they want to do and where they can go. EVE has NO limits to what a player can do, only the player is limited by their own abilities and mind set.
Peace.
Every aspect of this game is PVP, from mining for the best roids to beating the other guy to the best trade routes, to Ramsoming some poor guy in a POD, to great 1v1 combat, to large scale 150 ppl fleet battles.
The is no where you can go in this game and be 100% safe for PvP. It might not always be combat PvP but it is PvP when you are competing for the best place to mine, trade, build, or hunt. It is PvP when you are warp jammed and ransomed so you can make the next jump, only to be ransomed again. It is PvP when you are escorting a fieghter to empire with a 50+ BS fleet. Geuss what you are escorting to protect them from...PLAYERS!!!
This is why we whine that we were not included in the PVP section, cuz THIS GAME IS ALL ABOUT PVP. Anyone that says otherwise does not understand Eve and that is why they didnt like after 2 days. This game is not for the mentally handicap.
Actually I'm considered mentally handicapped and play the game hardcore so how about changing it to 'kids' or something defining people who haven't reached mental adulthood?
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
It all sucked.
Perhaps WoW should be taken away too, and SWG, and AO and EQ and .... you get my point..
RP means that you take on another role and you sure as hell do in EvE, on top of that there are quite a bunch of hardcore RPers too.. Never understood those guys but they're there too..
Point is, RP is in all games as long as people want to RP, and, well, I consider MMORPG.com to be for all MMO's who give you the option to RP... You can RP alone too you know.
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
It all sucked.
WoW folks don't NEED to defend it. It has millions of players. EvE doesn't.
Besides, we're all playing WoW not inflating rankings on mmorp.com
http://www.greycouncil.org/
Big deal, there are more people browsing this forum that lived in my home town, your point?
You guys can try and defend the puny 23k players online on "one world" but the fact remains it's a minority of the mmo players. Once you realize that you can stop trying to make everyone else think it's as big as WoW or even EQ2.
I bet WoW has more players online than a LARGE city, not some hick town.
But to try and get this crap back on topic. EvE even in the listing of "reader choice" awards when there are millions more WoW players just proves that these "awards" is bogus or inflated by one set of gamers coming here and voting. I guess thats ok though since it's just "readers choice for mmorpg.com". Guess next time we should just post the URL to vote on the WoW/EQ2 forums and watch the EvE guys weep.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
WoW folks don't NEED to defend it. It has millions of players. EvE doesn't.
Besides, we're all playing WoW not inflating rankings on mmorp.com
with a average age of 16-17.... yes. The most 'youngsters' play this game, because of the design and marketing of it. Your arguments are childish, and u'd be normally not worth the effort to type any reply for you - but well... somehow i couldnt resist :P
Get back to ur 'so ubzah leet zerging' - game, make some lvl grind get ur items and leave us alone :P EvE is not ur world, you lack in age - and in experience.
And regarding on your playtime, you don't have to earn your own money and play at mom's basement
U#re so not worth it, you won't know hrhr
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