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  • ClaudeFRClaudeFR Member Posts: 376


    Originally posted by OssirisWard
    I agree, I am skeptical also...yet hopeful. But this is not the first time a game has been privately run, am I correct?(ie games like Lineage 2 etc..)
    From what I understand SW things can be used as long as it is not for financial gain(which is why this will be a free server...donations accpeted of course)...we shall see....
     


    This is, unfortunatly, wrong.

    All of the Star Wars world is registered ( ® ) and protected under the appropiate laws in each country, worlwide.

    The use of any Star Wars logo, character or item without written permission by the rightowner (Lucas) may lead into very expenisve lawsuits.

    It is not important, if the server is free or not, important is the registrationmark/law violation.

    Sorry to head u up here...

    Claude

  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670



    Originally posted by pirrg

    You lot are getting quite desperate arent you. SWG wont change, it has a ton of players and all of them enjoy it greatly. Time for you guys to find a new game i think.



    Please don't feed the fanboi troll!

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
    And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by duncan_922
    Originally posted by pirrg
    You lot are getting quite desperate arent you. SWG wont change, it has a ton of players and all of them enjoy it greatly. Time for you guys to find a new game i think.Please don't feed the fanboi troll!

    He's getting paid by $OE to troll.

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  • ProfessorLProfessorL Member Posts: 21

    From the perspective of someone who was looking forward to SWG, before being disillusioned by the final product, I would like nothing better than to see a sequel created that learned from the predecessors mistakes. Just seperating the game from SOE would be a step in the right direction, I have nothing but bad experiances with that useless bunch.

    Problem with rumors is they build you up, just to knock you down. Still, we can always hope the true Star Wars experiance will one day be developed. I just hope the next one(if it exists) is in a different time period, setting it between episode 3 and 4 was the worst possible date they could have picked.

  • redluckredluck Member Posts: 18

    UH.  The population centers shifted throughout the life of the game.  From Mos Eisley to Theed back to Mos Eisley to C-Net and to the Mining Outpost on Dantooine.  Dantooine's Mining Outpost was the population center for the Lowca server all throughout the CU.  It was where people went to hang out, find groups to hunt with, duel, pvp, etc.

    You didn't have to have doc buffs in the cu, so according to the original poster's logic, you shouldn't have seen anyone at the mining outpost, even though there was no shortage of players there.

    so the original argument is completely illogical and I'm tired of hearing it.

  • SelothSeloth Member Posts: 388

    sad to say a good portion of the swg (all server) population centers moved to another game. And yes this is assuming that "tons" of players are still paying for this train wreck of a game. Lets assume subs are over 100k are still paying for the game, that means atleast 100k to 300k from peak have moved on.

    Yes these are all rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt, but it should also be viewed that the swg HAS a very dedicated and passionate player base that IF you could tap into would provide you a revenue stream for years.

    the solution was presented else where that makes good business sense. make both nge and pre nge servers. fix the bugs and then focus on content, not nerfs and "rebalances"

     

  • BissrokBissrok Member Posts: 1,002

    The cities were a big part of the game. The crowded cantinas filled with entertainers, the packed hospitals, and masses of people outside the starport yelling out coords for every type of item vender imaginable. It made the game feel alive. I don't care how many people play now, it looks dead. There's no one in any of the towns and most of the player cities look like ghost towns.

    Feels like they dropped everything but the grind.

  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670



    Originally posted by Shayde




    Originally posted by duncan_922


    Originally posted by pirrg
    You lot are getting quite desperate arent you. SWG wont change, it has a ton of players and all of them enjoy it greatly. Time for you guys to find a new game i think.
    Please don't feed the fanboi troll!


    He's getting paid by $OE to troll.



    Nah!   Don't think so!  Usually forum plants post are well thought and maybe even eloquent because they have to build a reputation so that they can try to sway opinion.  This guy just belittles everyone who doesn't agree with him with feelings of superiority.  Which means he's just a sad fanboi.  The only smart way to argue with him is to ignore him. 

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
    And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!

  • bareshdracobareshdraco Member Posts: 54



    Originally posted by duncan_922



    Originally posted by Shayde




    Originally posted by duncan_922


    Originally posted by pirrg
    You lot are getting quite desperate arent you. SWG wont change, it has a ton of players and all of them enjoy it greatly. Time for you guys to find a new game i think.
    Please don't feed the fanboi troll!


    He's getting paid by $OE to troll.



    Nah!   Don't think so!  Usually forum plants post are well thought and maybe even eloquent because they have to build a reputation so that they can try to sway opinion.  This guy just belittles everyone who doesn't agree with him with feelings of superiority.  Which means he's just a sad fanboi.  The only smart way to argue with him is to ignore him. 



    hear hear, a forum is a place to air your thoughts and views. Everyones opinion should be treated as just that - opinion. No room here for muppets who go off on one because they disagree with another opinion or people don't agree with there own.
  • OssirisWardOssirisWard Member Posts: 74

    Not to intentionally add more fuel to the fire....bah, who am I kidding...burn baby burn!

    Looks like Lucas Arts is hiring alot of Devs and such.....coincidence?

     


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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    The listings don't LOOK like they are SWG geared... but who knows.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621



    Originally posted by Cymek

    Those locations were just examples. As of right now show me ANY significant gathering of players ANYWHERE.
    The lack of a need of doc buffs is just one of many examples of how SOE destroyed player dependancy in the game.
    Not too far back I saw a post by someone who was going to stick the NGE out. They admited to being a SWG fanboi who would be there till SOE pulled the plug. They went all over the place during peak hours to recruit for a guild since theirs had been decimated (like so many others)...and you know what? THey COULDN'T FIND ANYONE TO RECRUIT.
    SWG is dead no matter how much the fanbois deny it....SOE destroyed the the game and the population....and I hope SWG gets the freaking plug pulled....oh and while I'm at it...I hate SOE's guts for invalidating thousands of invested hours of my time.



    Again, I'm not saying SWG isn't dead, just as I'm not saying it is. What I am saying is that the fact that C-Net doesn't have the crowds it used to is not proof that it is dead.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Jodokai
    Originally posted by Cymek
    Those locations were just examples. As of right now show me ANY significant gathering of players ANYWHERE.
    The lack of a need of doc buffs is just one of many examples of how SOE destroyed player dependancy in the game.
    Not too far back I saw a post by someone who was going to stick the NGE out. They admited to being a SWG fanboi who would be there till SOE pulled the plug. They went all over the place during peak hours to recruit for a guild since theirs had been decimated (like so many others)...and you know what? THey COULDN'T FIND ANYONE TO RECRUIT.
    SWG is dead no matter how much the fanbois deny it....SOE destroyed the the game and the population....and I hope SWG gets the freaking plug pulled....oh and while I'm at it...I hate SOE's guts for invalidating thousands of invested hours of my time.Again, I'm not saying SWG isn't dead, just as I'm not saying it is. What I am saying is that the fact that C-Net doesn't have the crowds it used to is not proof that it is dead.

    Theed and the Dantooine outposts were BOTH packed like they always were post-cu with the buffs gone. Now they are ghost towns. They had ships pre-nge. They had PVP pre-nge. None of the reasons for Theed to be empty are at all valid... except one. NOBODY IS PLAYING.

    Look, people know how the game was the DAY before the NGE. The only thing that would change the "social dynamic" with the NGE is that the chat windows sucked. That wouldn't suddenly make everyone leave Theed.

    I know you agree it is dead, but that argument is just plain wrong.

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  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670

    More and more people openly say that the game is dead.  It's only those that turn their backs on the truth that say otherwise.  And the excuse that there's no buffs so there's no need for major cities is just lame.  Someone here actually says: " We had a 20 vs. 20 battle on Vaclyn yesterday.  Dead, hardly"   LMAO!!!   That's just pathetic!
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408561
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408413#M408413

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  • CymekCymek Member Posts: 340


    Originally posted by duncan_922

    More and more people openly say that the game is dead. It's only those that turn their backs on the truth that say otherwise. And the excuse that there's no buffs so there's no need for major cities is just lame. Someone here actually says: " We had a 20 vs. 20 battle on Vaclyn yesterday. Dead, hardly" LMAO!!! That's just pathetic!
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408561
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408413#M408413


    Yep - Seen posts like that before. funny thing is you can find more than 40 people on any one of thousands of BF2 servers all over the web duking it out...and BF2 is hardly a MMO...and 40 people is hardly huge.

  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670



    Originally posted by Cymek




    Originally posted by duncan_922

    More and more people openly say that the game is dead. It's only those that turn their backs on the truth that say otherwise. And the excuse that there's no buffs so there's no need for major cities is just lame. Someone here actually says: " We had a 20 vs. 20 battle on Vaclyn yesterday. Dead, hardly" LMAO!!! That's just pathetic!
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408561
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408413#M408413



    Yep - Seen posts like that before. funny thing is you can find more than 40 people on any one of thousands of BF2 servers all over the web duking it out...and BF2 is hardly a MMO...and 40 people is hardly huge.



    EVE Online is run by a 5 developer company out of the Netherlands.  They run the whole game out of 1 server cluster where everybody plays.  Just last week they broke AGAIN their record for more simultaneous people online at 22K.  Do you think SWG has ever had 22K people in all their servers since the NGE?  Hell No!    I doubt there are 22K subs ATM!

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    SWG , is dead compared to any popular game available now . What needs to be done is a server merge . IMO the main reason not to play SWG at present is because of dead servers . If you travel to mensix you can find some people nowhere near the numbers that used to grind on dant . There are 2 or 3 servers that are doing ok population wise still they are not packed .

    The only reason to even find a group of people now is to either PVP or do a boss run on mustafar . Everything else is soloable . Entertainers are worthless , No reason to stand around a cantina to watch some pixels dance around when it dosen't have a purpose .

    When it comes to theed on bloodfin , some imps still hang there waiting for PVP . But only those who are not involved in the server war that has been going on since mid CU . But then again theed on bloodfin has been kinda of dead for many months now . Mostly because all anyone really does on Bloodfin is PVP . Why Fight where imps have an a cloner / recruiter advantage . As for people PVPing on Dant , No way that planet is a lag fest always has been atleast on Bfin .


    From talking to friends on bloodfins forum it seems most fighting is on mustafar or Tatt . I don't really play much But i still talk to friends on Teamspeak , and the forums .They seem to have little complaints about finding people , or finding a fun PVP battle . But atleast once a week they put together a PVP event . Which does bring out quite a few participants . I can atleast say for sure Bloodfin would be packed again if they brought back Pre-Cu noone there would argue that .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • chaintmchaintm Member UncommonPosts: 953



    Originally posted by Shayde

    Of course we ALL know that creating a deadline = bad product.
    2.5 years and you still can't stay in a chair.
    ::::12::



    ROFL! ok, best post ever! that chair comment is so darn true, lol.

    "The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  • Dis_OrdurDis_Ordur Member Posts: 1,501



    Originally posted by chaintm



    Originally posted by Shayde

    Of course we ALL know that creating a deadline = bad product.
    2.5 years and you still can't stay in a chair.
    ::::12::


    ROFL! ok, best post ever! that chair comment is so darn true, lol.


    OMG, you still can't sit in a chair correctly in SWG?  That is pathetic...  These little nuisances of bugs will never be fixed in this shitty game...  I can't believe it...  Let me guess, mission waypoints still change erratically too? 

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  • josmits66josmits66 Member Posts: 10
    I agree with the whole city thing.  Once the big cities started dying the game started dying.  Buffs were the reason that everyone was there.  Because of that, everyone advertised there.  Everyone PVP'd there.  I don't know how many times I was in a buff line and a BH showed up for the guy in front of me who was a jedi.  That was cool.  That went with the timeline of the game.  General Grievous?  Obi-wan talking to everyone, including non jedi?  This game was dying before the NGE.  The CU was good, in my opinion, but thats when the game started to die.  The NGE was just the nail in the coffin.
  • GilthaniGilthani Member Posts: 65


    Originally posted by josmits66
    I agree with the whole city thing. Once the big cities started dying the game started dying. Buffs were the reason that everyone was there. Because of that, everyone advertised there. Everyone PVP'd there. I don't know how many times I was in a buff line and a BH showed up for the guy in front of me who was a jedi. That was cool. That went with the timeline of the game. General Grievous? Obi-wan talking to everyone, including non jedi? This game was dying before the NGE. The CU was good, in my opinion, but thats when the game started to die. The NGE was just the nail in the coffin.

    Your right, it was also sort of akward when they screwed the whole timeline up??? Im pretty friggin sure that Princess Leia wasnt alive when general grievious was their.... Whats up with that??? They totally screwed that part up.... Please fix the game.. Its broken... I believe it can come back...
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Originally posted by Dis_Ordur
    Originally posted by chaintm
    Originally posted by Shayde
    Of course we ALL know that creating a deadline = bad product.2.5 years and you still can't stay in a chair.ROFL! ok, best post ever! that chair comment is so darn true, lol.OMG, you still can't sit in a chair correctly in SWG? That is pathetic... These little nuisances of bugs will never be fixed in this shitty game... I can't believe it... Let me guess, mission waypoints still change erratically too?


    Missions are completley useless now .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118



    Originally posted by OssirisWard

    Rumors these may be, but to all off us who are still reeling after we had our throats cut in Nov of 2005 I say they keep many of us going.
    Here's the link to a site that has a development team working on reverse engineering SWG Pre-CU code to run a private server...I am all over that like a fatboy on a cupcakeimage
     
    http://swg-monster.com/forum/
     
     



    I really hope these guys are able to pull this off.   No matter how small a chance there is, its nice to have hope that there will be a SWG again.    image

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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621



    Originally posted by duncan_922

    More and more people openly say that the game is dead.  It's only those that turn their backs on the truth that say otherwise.  And the excuse that there's no buffs so there's no need for major cities is just lame.  Someone here actually says: " We had a 20 vs. 20 battle on Vaclyn yesterday.  Dead, hardly"   LMAO!!!   That's just pathetic!
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408561
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408413#M408413



    If you are going to respond to a post, please make an effort to understand what the post says. If you don't understand it, ask, I'll be happy to explain it to you.

    Please give me 1 ingame reason for people to mingle in the big cities. Name one. Go on name one. Know why you're having so much trouble? There is no reason to. Now I'll say this again in the hopes you actually read ONE of my posts before responding: I'm not saying SWG isn't dead, it very well may be, but to check it out, I logged on the Naritus at 2pm EST today. hardly Prime Time, especially for a West Coast Server. There were 5 people at the Coronet Starport, the Starport at Mos Eisley had 12 people, the Cantina was packed and there were tons of people on my radar.

    Now I don't know what this proves, draw your own conclusions, but these are the facts.

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526



    Originally posted by Jodokai



    Originally posted by duncan_922

    More and more people openly say that the game is dead.  It's only those that turn their backs on the truth that say otherwise.  And the excuse that there's no buffs so there's no need for major cities is just lame.  Someone here actually says: " We had a 20 vs. 20 battle on Vaclyn yesterday.  Dead, hardly"   LMAO!!!   That's just pathetic!
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408561
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=408413#M408413


    If you are going to respond to a post, please make an effort to understand what the post says. If you don't understand it, ask, I'll be happy to explain it to you.

    Please give me 1 ingame reason for people to mingle in the big cities. Name one. Go on name one. Know why you're having so much trouble? There is no reason to. Now I'll say this again in the hopes you actually read ONE of my posts before responding: I'm not saying SWG isn't dead, it very well may be, but to check it out, I logged on the Naritus at 2pm EST today. hardly Prime Time, especially for a West Coast Server. There were 5 people at the Coronet Starport, the Starport at Mos Eisley had 12 people, the Cantina was packed and there were tons of people on my radar.

    Now I don't know what this proves, draw your own conclusions, but these are the facts.



    Jodokai is right here. Judging player populations using old logic simply doesnt fit. Yes Coronet USED to be busy. However that was mostly before JTL launched. Before JTL, one had to use Coronet to planet hop to other locations. As the natural center of the game, docs and entertainers flocked there. Crafters built malls closeby. This drew in even more players. However once players could bypass Coronet, everyone moved on.

    Theed was always dead after the CU on my server. If I had judged the player population based on Theed I would have assumed nobody played. However, everyone had moved over to a player town called Mos Ari on Tatooine. For some reason a lot of spawns (mostly banthas lvl 78) popped nearby in huge numbers. This became the primary grind spot for many.

    Mining Outpost while usually very busy seemed to empty out once Mustafar came out. Everyone went there I guess.

    I never went to Kashyyyk much so possibly more players hang there.

    Im not saying the game's population is the same. My source says 40k players left. However to judge the game's state by looking at old locations is wrong

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