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I'm a little disgusted with MMORPG.com
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Just being constructive
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
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moctodumegws
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[quote]Originally posted by cumbom
MMORPG.COM may access and/or disclose your personal information if required to do so by
law or in the good faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform to
the edicts of the law or comply with legal process served on our company or the
site; (b) protect and defend the rights or property of our company, including the MMORPG.COM
Web site;
[/b][/quote]
its all interpretation. this here tells me that they can give your info if it would protect their website(mmorpg.com)
Can't blame you for not reading through every post
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moctodumegws
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your right i didnt. gettin ready for work right now and not much time. thanks though. off to work
Congratulations on making your true intention clear.
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moctodumegws
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There is a difference between a warning + threat and the actual accomplishment of say threat.
En1gma can write a message without even an approval from the rest of the staff.
Sending the information to the Vanguard team might be the intent of En1gma, but he would have to CONVINCE Admin or whoever is the boss to do so.
En1gma has no control over this personal information...yet, this site doesn't have much information on peoples...it is not like they even know my CC number!
So, you're concerns have been duly noted, but I honestly don't care. If the site actually give SOME information, then I will react, but over a threat to do so if you don't stop been a laws breakers? Err, go ahead, threaten all the peoples who can't respect a simple EULA, if you didn't respect an EULA, you certainly deserve some threats from a site devoted to loving MMORPGs in general.
If you ain't happy with that, I understand you but I am not sharing your point of view. I will have a Borg-like attitude, resistance is futile, join the common sense!
If a guy on the street tell another guy: stop beating your wife or I will break your legs! I will applaud, as long as it remains threats and a few bruises, nothing serious. If it get more serious, I will call the police! Someone who break an EULA is to the MMO world pretty much beating on his sweaty half. This site, has 1 member of it personnal, threatening to spite on you if you keep breaking the EULA (I will tell your wife to leave you if you keep beating her), it could be far more serious threats and I would still applaud.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Errr...I am pretty sure a company out there would have ask the staff to ban me, if they though it would work. They know better (or that it would at least cost them money, and with money they can put an advertising banner instead).
This site is PROVIDING those companies a service. It is those companies who are in debt toward this site and in a position of wanting to please, not the other way around. This site take a stand like it took on this thread not to please Sigil, but to please Vanguard fans, which is, the various peoples and customers for both, the MMO and them.
This site certainly wants good relation with every company, but they are not afraid to BAN a company althogether and I am sure they would ban even SoE or NCsoft if such a need arise, but fear not, SoE and NCsoft marketing is wise enough for this to never happen.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
it also says "except where required by law"... HELLO? you agree to an NDA then violoate it, it seems to me that MMORPG is probably required by law to say something about it. You're just upset because you can't have your cake and eat it, too...
get over it, and stop violating agreements you made and then MMORPG won't be obligated to tell on you...
DUH...
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it also says "except where required by law"... HELLO? you agree to an NDA then violoate it, it seems to me that MMORPG is probably required by law to say something about it. You're just upset because you can't have your cake and eat it, too...
get over it, and stop violating agreements you made and then MMORPG won't be obligated to tell on you...
DUH...
My friend, I didn't violate any agreements.
Check back a page and read the Admin's reply. I await your apology.
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moctodumegws
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I think admin has basically cleared this up and you guys need to go read his post.
Even if the site wants to please a gaming company they will at best ban you or deleted your post.
They will never give your information simply because the backlash if you counter sue would be a lot.
It just much easier for them to ban or delete your post and tell that compnay "hey look we banned/deleted the offender.not much else we can do" and the gaming company will have to accept it because they too know the dire consequences of sharing priviledged information with another company without a court order.
Example,my cousin recently got equivalent of $15,000 in damages from his bank.Why?because they shared his phone number(not even his name/address) with a sales company who started phoning him daily to ask for "the owner of the house".He traced the source to his bank and got out of court settlement of that amount.
Granted if there is a court order then personal data will be given out but apart from that most companies will be weary to give out any information.
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moctodumegws
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-virtual tourist
want your game back?
I know MMORPG.com didn't give anyone my information, but the post by Enigma made it seem as though MMORPG.com didn't take my privacy seriously.
Now its been cleared up by the Admin who said that they do take our privacy seriously and will not release it unless directed by a court order.
Am I really the only one who feels that the principle is important?
There sure were a lot of folks posting about the Principle involved in not breaking an NDA, I'm just surprised there isn't that much support for a principle that involves your privacy.
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moctodumegws
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moctodumegws
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"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
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moctodumegws
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You know running this site cost money right?
Did you have to pay a monthly fee when you sign up?
MMORPG.com has already explained the reasons why they have ads like that. Look it up.
ops.. I quoted wrongly. I wanted to quote the post above that one.. but o well.
You know running this site cost money right?
Did you have to pay a monthly fee when you sign up?
MMORPG.com has already explained the reasons why they have ads like that. Look it up.
ops.. I quoted wrongly. I wanted to quote the post above that one.. but o well.
what laws were broken and whose safety is in jeopardy? otherwise, um, that means that they are equally liable to sell your information to spammers for a list. there's big money in that. trust goes many ways. one tiny step leads to several tiny steps which leads to hyper team monkey force gogo juice mayhem~!!
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I don't think his point was, although considering his nogold.org stuff it probably is his position, that they shouldn't sell ad space to a Gold selling company.
He was pointing out a percieved hypocracy in their policy.
They will delete posts that violate an NDA, however they will allow advertising for sites that break an EULA, its a good point and does seem hypocritical.
Personally, and this is just my view, I don't think they should delete posts that break an NDA, and please don't say that means I am urging people to do so, because I am not.
I'm not even urging MMORPG.com to change their policy, just expressing my opinion.
Like I said his post did point out a hypocrisy. He makes an interesting point and I would be interested in seeing a counter argument that addresses the hypocrisy.
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moctodumegws
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moctodumegws
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