We are not trying to be like WoW, we are trying to overrun it. WoW is a nice game, but i got bored of playing it cause of the lack of xp and hack and slash grinding feast i been taken.
I don't agree that WoW's endgame is necessarily all bad, but I do think it could be better, and that if you are judging a mmorpg the endgame and lastability of the game should be taken into account especially when mmorpgs are trying to keep you playing for as much as possible.
if you really think about it for one minute.. every game at some point has a problem with end game in some aspect.. thats why there is a thing called alts.. with i have gotten fond of making.. i did that in wow to.. as well as in daoc which i play now..
but no matter what game you play, its what you the gamer likes the content or what have you.. you pay for game play it etc its what you like. and no one can sway your opinion about what you the gamer wants in a game to make you happy...
its called an opinion..
Playing daoc and loving it totally.. have Played Eq,Eq2,WoW,Coh,Cov, and other.. which i have forgotten..
Personaly I would never pay monthly thats over $10 bucks iam too cheap, but hes right WOW is the best mmo out there, heres a link proving it. Read the whole thing it talks about WOW and GW, WOW has 6million players and GW has 2million, making WOW #1 and GW #2.
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY period: If WoW isnt the best then what is? Dark age of camolot with its 2k playerbase? Anarchy online with its slow gameplay? City of heros with no value or dress up like some nerd and go blasting baddys all day? PVP interaction is horrible. Or what about the sims online? Is the sims rocking the mmorpg scene?
Dark Age of Camelot=better pvp than WoW could ever offer and more than 2000 subscribers by far. Try checking the numbers before you open your mouth to get that second foot in. Anarchy Online=slow gameplay? At times. However, it has more content and depth of gameplay plus a better community than WoW has ever had. My opinion? Yes, but based on playing all 3 games, I'm fairly sure that my appraisal is accurate. Now playing the Saga of Ryzom, which with it's new unlimited free playtime in newbie area is steadily growing and people are converting to paid everyday. It has a fantastic crafting system, skill based instead of leveling based, and pretty good consensual as well as open pvp. And since upcoming updates are important to you, Ryzom Ring is the new free expansion coming out to let players design and implement their own missions/quest/battlefields/etc. And the landmass is expansive. The newbie island is almost larger than some games total area. So, in my humble opinion, WoW is not and never will be the best mmorpg out there. In fact at times, I hesitate to call it an mmorpg since it usually feels like a single player game with a chat room interface. And yes, OP, you are a fanboi. And as such, I say to you: Go back to WoW and leave the real gaming to the rest of us. Oh, and as far as the 6 million subscribers goes, children are born everyday in the world and that is mainly what WoW's fanbase consist of. Do I think that's bad? Not for me. Keeps 'em busy while the rest of us adults enjoy our games. But if we ever implement global birth control, WoW will be history very quickly. I have spoken my piece. Please, carry on.
Originally posted by Rayth3on Personaly iwould never pay monthly thats over $10 bucks iam too cheap, but hes right WOW is the best mmo out there, heres a link proving it. Read the whole thing it talks about WOW and GW, WOW has 6million players and GW has 2million, making WOW #1 and GW #2. http://www.gameaxis.com/home/?blog=351
*sigh* Just because a game has more players, it doesn't mean it's better. It just means it's more mainstream.
Originally posted by Canigua Originally posted by Ryanz WoW will never have good PvP...they've already thrown their system all out of wack. If you want good PvP, you'll just have to wait till Warhammer Online comes out. Plain and simple.
How the hell do you know warhammer's pvp will be so god damn good?
If i remember right,was everybody waiting for WoW cause of it's "real"pvp
Well, myself and others are HOPING that WAR's pvp will be great since it's being made by Mythic. DAoC's PVP is amazing compared to other MMOs.
That website is a gaming comany provided by E3, so just because they say it is, they mean it is, now i would understand if I just said it without proof, and the reason it has more palyers is because more people play the game and more people like the game meaning it has a better rattings which makes it the best.
I would have to stay WoW is a good solidly built game but the difference in the game from level 1-59 to 60 is what makes the game not the best game out there.
End game -is- the entire game, in a game where you can hit the level cap in two weeks.
Originally posted by Gameloading end game is not the entire game. and even if it was, there are LOADS of games who have the exact same problem with endgame. deal with it.
WORLD of WARCRAFT is the best damn game you can possibly wish for and expect to come out of an MMORPG, the graphics rock, it's got so many choices and things to do, and hell it's fun!! It might not be futeristic, but it kicks any game's ass by 1K credits.
Originally posted by vendris End game -is- the entire game, in a game where you can hit the level cap in two weeks.
Originally posted by Gameloading end game is not the entire game. and even if it was, there are LOADS of games who have the exact same problem with endgame. deal with it.
is anybody forcing you to raid? No. nobody is forcing you. only you, if you want to have your char all maxed out in perfect gear. your free to make another character if you like, or you can pvp i you like. you don't NEED to gain something to have fun in PVP.
Originally posted by Calvinette WORLD of WARCRAFT is the best damn game you can possibly wish for and expect to come out of an MMORPG, the graphics rock, it's got so many choices and things to do, and hell it's fun!! It might not be futeristic, but it kicks any game's ass by 1K credits.
I can name multipul single player games that easily kick WoWs ass. Sorry.
Siehst du mich Erkennst du mich Ganz tief in meinem Herz ist noch ein Platz f?r dich Ich suche dich Ich sehne mich nach dem was ich geliebt hab doch ich find es nicht
Originally posted by Tenk575 I don't usually post on here and I am not taking anyones side. You know, how do you judge an MMORPG universally to be the best out there? The only way to really do that is by subscribers... right? If thats the case then WoW is the best MMORPG out there by a landslide. I know how you ALL feel, I want something new and amazing and I am sick of WoW myself, but to say one game is BETTER then WoW right now would be completely and utterly your opinion. If were going by the numbers, which is really the only thing to really go by right now. THEN WOW IS THE BEST. Simple. Most people are jealous of WoWs success and the ones who are, aren't easy to point out. Lets all keep our opinions as opinions, and the facts as the facts, WoW has alot more subscribers then any MMO out there right now. Sure you can say, well how many of those accounts are farmers? how many of those accounts are not being played? You can say that for alot of games, guys. But the truth is simple no matter how you want to look at it right now, WoW has the numbers, and unfortunately thats the only real way to see if a game is betetr then a game right now. Anything else would just be your opinion. http://www.mmogchart.com/ Marketshare, guys.
the true reason why wow has so many subscribers is because blizzard made world of warcraft and starcraft
they used the fanbase from these 2 games to draw them into the MMO genre.... of course people will disagree but there is absolutely nothing ground breaking about wow... graphics, PvP, Quests, 'raids', its all been done before..... ultimately this is good for the MMORPG genre because it draws sooo many people in that when they eventually leave WoW they may find a better game that everyone likes and make that game better......
as far as saying wow is the BEST even just looking at numbers you cant say it is the best no matter what its always going to be opinion [blizzard also got a lot of highschoolers to play WoW which contributed to the game being sooo huge (people at my highschool play WoW and they had never even heard of the MMORPG genre before)]..... a lot of the people that have played wow have never played an MMO before so of course to them it is the BEST but it just was not what i was looking for in a game? does that mean it sux? of course not it just means that i dont like playing it
I think WOW is a very good game to start with and play just for fun. If you are on a good server you can have lots of fun. I still haven't found anything that can replace it at the moment. Hoping that a few games that wil come out this year can win me over hopefully. I don't need a heavy computer to have a nice looking game that runs smoothly.
"One day all will die, surely you but never I." Wheel of Time
Originally posted by Harafnir I think pizza is the best fastfood in the world. Anyone who do not like pizza is an incompetent dork without any knowledge whatsoever. Yup, that must be true, because I am smart, and I like pizza.
Yes... Pizza is great. And they eat it all over the world, so.. It MUST be the best fast food around. It just must. I mean. I eat it a lot. And I have never complained about my taste in anything. So its great.. If you do not like pizza, then yer a clueless noob.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force"
Originally posted by Harafnir Originally posted by Harafnir I think pizza is the best fastfood in the world. Anyone who do not like pizza is an incompetent dork without any knowledge whatsoever. Yup, that must be true, because I am smart, and I like pizza.
Yes... Pizza is great. And they eat it all over the world, so.. It MUST be the best fast food around. It just must. I mean. I eat it a lot. And I have never complained about my taste in anything. So its great.. If you do not like pizza, then yer a clueless noob.
I didn't bother to respond to your first post as it was obviously the work of a clueless n00b but here you are again with your trouble making.
Anyone who thinks that Pizza is better than Pot Noodle is teh 5uckZZ0r and should be banned from ALL fast foods for life !!!!! !
Originally posted by Gameloading Its funny how you comments on other people's inteligence when you make so many mistakes. first of all, guild Wars is NOT an mmorpg. next, Dark age of camelot is still a grind. not a long grind, but still a grind. and DAOC's grind is still longer then WoW, so why you call WoW a grind, but saying Daoc doesn't have one is beyond me,and actually proves your knowledge of MMO's is not as good as you would like other people to believe.
"Saying WoW is the best MMORPG is so foolish and immature and not to mention subjective"
you just called 6,5 million people foolish and immature, including proffesional people who know what they are talking about and get PAID for it.
"the second best game ever is Runescape, with Guild Wars on third, since they also have a playerbase of millions"
Going purely by the number of subscriptions the second would be Lineage, followed by Lineage 2, followed by FFXI. WoW is however the "daddy" of the MMO market, and the game by which all other MMOs are judged.
"Best" is always a matter of personal taste making this entire thread utterly pointless, but never the less strangely entertaining.
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but no matter what game you play, its what you the gamer likes the content or what have you.. you pay for game play it etc its what you like. and no one can sway your opinion about what you the gamer wants in a game to make you happy...
its called an opinion..
Playing daoc and loving it totally..
have Played
Eq,Eq2,WoW,Coh,Cov,
and other..
which i have forgotten..
Personaly I would never pay monthly thats over $10 bucks iam too cheap, but hes right WOW is the best mmo out there, heres a link proving it. Read the whole thing it talks about WOW and GW, WOW has 6million players and GW has 2million, making WOW #1 and GW #2.
http://www.gameaxis.com/home/?blog=351
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY period: If WoW isnt the best then what is? Dark age of camolot with its 2k playerbase? Anarchy online with its slow gameplay? City of heros with no value or dress up like some nerd and go blasting baddys all day? PVP interaction is horrible. Or what about the sims online? Is the sims rocking the mmorpg scene?
Dark Age of Camelot=better pvp than WoW could ever offer and more than 2000 subscribers by far. Try checking the numbers before you open your mouth to get that second foot in. Anarchy Online=slow gameplay? At times. However, it has more content and depth of gameplay plus a better community than WoW has ever had. My opinion? Yes, but based on playing all 3 games, I'm fairly sure that my appraisal is accurate. Now playing the Saga of Ryzom, which with it's new unlimited free playtime in newbie area is steadily growing and people are converting to paid everyday. It has a fantastic crafting system, skill based instead of leveling based, and pretty good consensual as well as open pvp. And since upcoming updates are important to you, Ryzom Ring is the new free expansion coming out to let players design and implement their own missions/quest/battlefields/etc. And the landmass is expansive. The newbie island is almost larger than some games total area. So, in my humble opinion, WoW is not and never will be the best mmorpg out there. In fact at times, I hesitate to call it an mmorpg since it usually feels like a single player game with a chat room interface. And yes, OP, you are a fanboi. And as such, I say to you: Go back to WoW and leave the real gaming to the rest of us. Oh, and as far as the 6 million subscribers goes, children are born everyday in the world and that is mainly what WoW's fanbase consist of. Do I think that's bad? Not for me. Keeps 'em busy while the rest of us adults enjoy our games. But if we ever implement global birth control, WoW will be history very quickly. I have spoken my piece. Please, carry on.
How the hell do you know warhammer's pvp will be so god damn good?
If i remember right,was everybody waiting for WoW cause of it's "real"pvp
Well, myself and others are HOPING that WAR's pvp will be great since it's being made by Mythic. DAoC's PVP is amazing compared to other MMOs.
Looking for something new.
CaLvIn Co
I like the idea of crafting being the source of the best in game items. But for that to work, the crafting system needs to be much more difficult.
Also, the auction house could do with some historical transaction details like in Eve Online.
is anybody forcing you to raid? No. nobody is forcing you. only you, if you want to have your char all maxed out in perfect gear. your free to make another character if you like, or you can pvp i you like. you don't NEED to gain something to have fun in PVP.
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
they used the fanbase from these 2 games to draw them into the MMO genre.... of course people will disagree but there is absolutely nothing ground breaking about wow... graphics, PvP, Quests, 'raids', its all been done before..... ultimately this is good for the MMORPG genre because it draws sooo many people in that when they eventually leave WoW they may find a better game that everyone likes and make that game better......
as far as saying wow is the BEST even just looking at numbers you cant say it is the best no matter what its always going to be opinion [blizzard also got a lot of highschoolers to play WoW which contributed
to the game being sooo huge (people at my highschool play WoW and they
had never even heard of the MMORPG genre before)]..... a lot of the people that have played wow have never played an MMO before so of course to them it is the BEST but it just was not what i was looking for in a game? does that mean it sux? of course not it just means that i dont like playing it
"One day all will die, surely you but never I." Wheel of Time
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
I didn't bother to respond to your first post as it was obviously the work of a clueless n00b but here you are again with your trouble making.
Anyone who thinks that Pizza is better than Pot Noodle is teh 5uckZZ0r and should be banned from ALL fast foods for life !!!!! !
The true victim here: the English language.
of course not
the second best game ever is Runescape, with Guild Wars on third, since they also have a playerbase of millions
/pwnt tbh
-Navsterz
"the second best game ever is Runescape, with Guild Wars on third, since they also have a playerbase of millions"
Going purely by the number of subscriptions the second would be Lineage, followed by Lineage 2, followed by FFXI. WoW is however the "daddy" of the MMO market, and the game by which all other MMOs are judged.
"Best" is always a matter of personal taste making this entire thread utterly pointless, but never the less strangely entertaining.
Flame on!
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