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Yes, the whole city was in fact, you are right for the first time, although it was sarcastic, but you were correct, ALL of sodom were homosexuals, even the females had sodomy, but sex was with men mainly.
then very very few people followed the prophet Lut, and became stright again after they have heared the truth, when they left, God destroyed Sodom.
must be great to live with your head up in your spiritual ass. I wish I could blindly believe 2000+ yr old fairytale but sadly I believe more what I can actually see or experience myself.
It was a city full of gays I tell you...get your head out of your logical ass...there wasn't one heterosexual in that city, I don't care what logic tells you.
oh wait, they lived in San Francisco? nvm then
Amen.
yup yup.
Yes, so anything you don't see or experience doesn't exist in anyway, all people must believe in only what you see and experience, or they will be damned to hell.
so blind people are damned, deaf people are damned, crippled people are damned, everyone is damned except what you experience and see yourself.
that's right, man i have to follow you.
Edit: on top of that, prior to you being born, nothing have existed, all life came into existance once you were born.
lol what? Im not sending anyone to hell, or any other place. And please stop following me, if you believe in some bedtime story to tell the truth about life, the universe and everything... more power to you!
And I honestly dont understand that part about blind, deaf and crippled ppl being damned...? Theory of Evolution doesnt state anywhere that blind, deaf and crippled people are damned...
Graves don't exist, there's no one inside them, i mean no, all of these dead people have never existed before.
i mean, there was no past, einstien never existed, i mean all of those inventions came out of thin air.
I only have one thing to ask. What does ANY of this have to do with this site? Isnt there another place for people to rant about religion?
Also just a FYI, you all need to be more careful of some of the things you say. Someone could get seriously hurt by something you might say.
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First, dead people can't talk, thus they do not exist, these dead people have never existed for you because you never actually talked to them, therefore they have never existed, and these graves are empty, they're just graves.
the room i'm in atm doesn't exist, because you never experienced it, so therefore it doesn't exist, even to me, it doesn't exist, because you've never been here.
also all of this science never existed before you read it.
i don't know man, maybe all of those thousands of people who have experienced what you haven't don't exist, and what they have experienced never existed since you never experienced them or what they have experienced, and i'm not even sure if you can understand what i just wrote.
oh btw, i don't exist, since i might be a brain laying somewhere on tha intarweb, and i'm just typing these letters using my brainful imagination into the intarweb.
What? You telling me that deaf people are different race? And here i was, thinking that deafness was outcome of injury suffered before or after birth.
First, dead people can't talk, thus they do not exist, these dead people have never existed for you because you never actually talked to them, therefore they have never existed, and these graves are empty, they're just graves.
the room i'm in atm doesn't exist, because you never experienced it, so therefore it doesn't exist, even to me, it doesn't exist, because you've never been here.
also all of this science never existed before you read it.
i don't know man, maybe all of those thousands of people who have experienced what you haven't don't exist, and what they have experienced never existed since you never experienced them or what they have experienced, and i'm not even sure if you can understand what i just wrote.
oh btw, i don't exist, since i might be a brain laying somewhere on tha intarweb, and i'm just typing these letters using my brainful imagination into the intarweb.
If it wasnt so vindictful, it would almost be a good description of my religious beliefs
Nasica
you're religious? you believe? in what? who's your God? who's your prophet? what are your beliefs, please tell me.
lmao, you really have no idea what youre talking about. And i thought you were just making crap up. Listen to me very carefully, i try to make this really simple, deaf people are NOT different race, they can have children that are not deaf, just like any other people. And deafness doesnt mean devolving, because your other senses become more keen, like eyesight.
I would suggest that, instead of reading more fantasy books, next time go pick a biology book.
Buddhism yes, i have lived with both hindus and buddhists too, so i know quite a bit.
Edit: oh and if you don't have a god, then how come you have a religion? but i thought buddha was your God? btw i've read a little about the Ox story, it's interesting, because the beliefs are almost similar to the ways of islam, in few things.
lmao, you really have no idea what youre talking about. And i thought you were just making crap up. Listen to me very carefully, i try to make this really simple, deaf people are NOT different race, they can have children that are not deaf, just like any other people. And deafness doesnt mean devolving, because your other senses become more keen, like eyesight.
not necessarly true.
I would suggest that, instead of reading more fantasy books, next time go pick a biology book.
i don't read fantasy books :}
But according to you and nasica, here's what i have understood.
Einstien is a myth, he's a fairytale of the books.
Science is but a fairytale, and all of the researches done by scientists, recorded into books are tales told by fairies.
planes don't exist, because alot of people never saw planes.
you don't exist, because i never saw you, you're a fairytale on the intarweb.
evolution cannot exist, because no one can prove it, because no one saw anything evolving into something, different beaks = deafness as you describe it.
fossils explain nothing, because many people die while bending their knees to their chests, thus looking like cavemen, so fossils can explain nothing but a man dying from hunger probably.
at the end, evolution cannot be proven, and it can be disproven easily, how? like this.
evolution depends on random chance for anything to exist, in real life, there's nothing called random chance, why? look at it this way, how many times do you have to throw a glass of water on the ground for it to form 10 orgenized small glasses of water? 0% where's the random chance now?
that's only one example that totally destroys the evolution theory.
another one? you don't have a brain, because neither you not me have felt, tasted, touched, saw or heared your brain, you're brainless, therefore anything you think of or see cannot exist anyway.
But according to you and nasica, here's what i have understood.
Einstien is a myth, he's a fairytale of the books.
I didnt saw Einstein but I do see the undeniable evidence that he existed (pics, interviews and such). Thats a bit more than a 2000 yr old story, dont you think?
Science is but a fairytale, and all of the researches done by scientists, recorded into books are tales told by fairies.
Science is not a fairytale
because you, me and everyone can go and check whether something is true
or not. Ive done that many times.
planes don't exist, because alot of people never saw planes.
Alot of people havent seen planes, but they all can go and see if they exist, if they so choose. However, you cant go and see whether theres a god or not.
you don't exist, because i never saw you, you're a fairytale on the intarweb.
You do see the writing im doing right? Therefore im not a fairytale, someone must be writing this stuff?
evolution cannot exist, because no one can prove it, because no one saw anything evolving into something, different beaks = deafness as you describe it.
Evolution has been proved countless of times (as a working theory). For example, bacterians adjusting to a different environment. Thats evolution at its purest my friend.
fossils explain nothing, because many people die while bending their knees to their chests, thus looking like cavemen, so fossils can explain nothing but a man dying from hunger probably.
Ive never heard fossiles being identified by how they are bend... instead scientists look at the shape of their bone structure to determine whether its a Homo Sapiens or not.at the end, evolution cannot be proven, and it can be disproven easily, how? like this.
evolution depends on random chance for anything to exist, in real life, there's nothing called random chance, why? look at it this way, how many times do you have to throw a glass of water on the ground for it to form 10 orgenized small glasses of water? 0% where's the random chance now?
Either a glass or a glass of water is not a living organism, is it?
that's only one example that totally destroys the evolution theory.
Nope, that totally destroys your credibility.
another one? you don't have a brain, because neither you not me have felt, tasted, touched, saw or heared your brain, you're brainless, therefore anything you think of or see cannot exist anyway.
Theres some evidence that i have brains, for i can feel, taste, touch, see and hear everything around me. And if i was curious enough, i could always drill a hole in my skull and use a mirror. But that would prolly kill me, so i just have to trust my other senses on that one.
Evolution is a theory that changes all the time, gets more accurate, something that you can go and test for yourself whereas god is just something you blindly accept as a truth without being able to confirm it. And thats really the only difference there is between science and religion.
But according to you and nasica, here's what i have understood.
Einstien is a myth, he's a fairytale of the books.
I didnt saw Einstein but I do see the undeniable evidence that he existed (pics, interviews and such). Thats a bit more than a 2000 yr old story, dont you think?
what about the interviews and the stories and books written 2000 years ago or less or more? and some of them still exist too, what about them? aren't they proof that these people existed too?
Science is but a fairytale, and all of the researches done by scientists, recorded into books are tales told by fairies.
Science is not a fairytale because you, me and everyone can go and check whether something is true or not. Ive done that many times.
What about the things written in the Qur'an? can't you go and check them out, and see whether they were true or not? or is it that because you never tried you say it is not true? because people have already proved many many facts which exist in the Qur'an by going out and seeing for themselves, and then confirmed the truth in it, and this happened like 50++ years ago.
planes don't exist, because alot of people never saw planes.
Alot of people havent seen planes, but they all can go and see if they exist, if they so choose. However, you cant go and see whether theres a god or not.
you can actually, can't you see his creation? or else, from where did all of this come from? don't tell me evolution, because where did space come from? where did the big rock that exploded come from?
you don't exist, because i never saw you, you're a fairytale on the intarweb.
You do see the writing im doing right? Therefore im not a fairytale, someone must be writing this stuff?
AHHAAH, you see the computer you're seeing right? so therefore someone must have made it, you see the sun right? so someone must have made it too, you see the universe, the stars and everything, so someone must have created it
evolution cannot exist, because no one can prove it, because no one saw anything evolving into something, different beaks = deafness as you describe it.
Evolution has been proved countless of times (as a working theory). For example, bacterians adjusting to a different environment. Thats evolution at its purest my friend.
true, but this is as you said an environmental effect :} when environment change, your looks change, your skin color change, and your children might inherit these changes, BUT, you will NOT gain any extra limbs, you will not grow any extra hairs, you will NOT lose any fingers because of these environmental changes, what happens to you is totally different of what the theory of evolution have described.
fossils explain nothing, because many people die while bending their knees to their chests, thus looking like cavemen, so fossils can explain nothing but a man dying from hunger probably.
Ive never heard fossiles being identified by how they are bend... instead scientists look at the shape of their bone structure to determine whether its a Homo Sapiens or not.
homo sapiens you say? how many creatures out there other than the human beings stand like the human beings do? non.
at the end, evolution cannot be proven, and it can be disproven easily, how? like this.
evolution depends on random chance for anything to exist, in real life, there's nothing called random chance, why? look at it this way, how many times do you have to throw a glass of water on the ground for it to form 10 orgenized small glasses of water? 0% where's the random chance now?
Either a glass or a glass of water is not a living organism, is it?
a rock isn't a living organism right? counter that.
that's only one example that totally destroys the evolution theory.
Nope, that totally destroys your credibility.
that's how you percieve it :}
another one? you don't have a brain, because neither you not me have felt, tasted, touched, saw or heared your brain, you're brainless, therefore anything you think of or see cannot exist anyway.
Theres some evidence that i have brains, for i can feel, taste, touch, see and hear everything around me. And if i was curious enough, i could always drill a hole in my skull and use a mirror. But that would prolly kill me, so i just have to trust my other senses on that one.
and we have to trust our other sences to believe that God exists and he have created everything else we see, how else everything have come into existance? is the table your comp is sitting on, and the chair that you're sitting on came out of nothing? or did they evolve from trees? and trees is a living organism, so give me an excuse for this one please.
Evolution is a theory that changes all the time, gets more accurate, something that you can go and test for yourself whereas god is just something you blindly accept as a truth without being able to confirm it. And thats really the only difference there is between science and religion.
Something that changes you say? if something changes to another, then it's solidiy as a fact disappears, and cannot be a fact anymore, therefore the theory of evolution with it's changing prospects cannot fit to be true, or a fact to be taken as truth, because it changes.
but as for God, he never changes, he is One, he has no beginning and no end, so therefore his existance is a fact that can be proven easily if you are eady to accept the proofs of his existance, God does not change, unlike your theory you believe in.
One last thing.
You can accept the probablity that this universe, a mindless, non living pieces of rocks and gasses that have formed from an explosion, have been there forever, without any kind of proof.
But you cannot accept the probablity, that a higher being with super powers beyond your comprehension, and is very smart and powerful, have existed forever.
YET, you believe in the existance of aliens ( maybe, maybe not ).
doesn't this show just how un-smart you are?
lmao, you really have no idea what youre talking about. And i thought you were just making crap up. Listen to me very carefully, i try to make this really simple, deaf people are NOT different race, they can have children that are not deaf, just like any other people. And deafness doesnt mean devolving, because your other senses become more keen, like eyesight.
not necessarly true.
I would suggest that, instead of reading more fantasy books, next time go pick a biology book.
i don't read fantasy books :}
But according to you and nasica, here's what i have understood.
Einstien is a myth, he's a fairytale of the books.
Science is but a fairytale, and all of the researches done by scientists, recorded into books are tales told by fairies.
planes don't exist, because alot of people never saw planes.
you don't exist, because i never saw you, you're a fairytale on the intarweb.
evolution cannot exist, because no one can prove it, because no one saw anything evolving into something, different beaks = deafness as you describe it.
fossils explain nothing, because many people die while bending their knees to their chests, thus looking like cavemen, so fossils can explain nothing but a man dying from hunger probably.
at the end, evolution cannot be proven, and it can be disproven easily, how? like this.
evolution depends on random chance for anything to exist, in real life, there's nothing called random chance, why? look at it this way, how many times do you have to throw a glass of water on the ground for it to form 10 orgenized small glasses of water? 0% where's the random chance now?
that's only one example that totally destroys the evolution theory.
another one? you don't have a brain, because neither you not me have felt, tasted, touched, saw or heared your brain, you're brainless, therefore anything you think of or see cannot exist anyway.
the thing here is, we both know that if we open his head, we see a brain there.
what about the interviews and the stories and books written 2000 years ago or less or more? and some of them still exist too, what about them? aren't they proof that these people existed too?
Jesus gave interviews in front of camera ??
What about the things written in the Qur'an? can't you go and check them out, and see whether they were true or not? or is it that because you never tried you say it is not true? because people have already proved many many facts which exist in the Qur'an by going out and seeing for themselves, and then confirmed the truth in it, and this happened like 50++ years ago.
some of those stories may have happened in some form and in places that actually exist, hell i even believe that there was a person named Jesus back then, propably some guy who made a living by accepting donations from loonies that followed him. But all that wont make god any more real.
you can actually, can't you see his creation? or else, from where did all of this come from? don't tell me evolution, because where did space come from? where did the big rock that exploded come from?
well, where
did this god dude come from? Popped out of thin air? You see, the
explanation to both of these is just as unbelievable but again Big Bang
is just a theory, no one has stated it as a fact. Thats the beauty of
science, its always open to changes, corrections. Prove that god really
exists and it begomes a science.
AHHAAH, you see the computer you're seeing right? so therefore someone must have made it, you see the sun right? so someone must have made it too, you see the universe, the stars and everything, so someone must have created it
Why must someone have created it? No one knows how universe works, not yet anyway.
true, but this is as you said an environmental effect :} when environment change, your looks change, your skin color change, and your children might inherit these changes, BUT, you will NOT gain any extra limbs, you will not grow any extra hairs, you will NOT lose any fingers because of these environmental changes, what happens to you is totally different of what the theory of evolution have described.
That just proves you dont know first thing about how evolution works.
Do yourself a big favour, go out and study some real science and then come back and see how ridiculously you just wrote.
homo sapiens you say? how many creatures out there other than the human beings stand like the human beings do? non.
Thats the result of evolution, the survival of the fittest. Homo Sapiens gained considerable advantige from their big brains, others (cromagnon for example) couldnt compete and slowly perished.
a rock isn't a living organism right? counter that.
correct, and that is one mystery yet to be solved by science. Science doesnt offer all the answers, not yet anyway.
and we have to trust our other sences to believe that God exists and he have created everything else we see, how else everything have come into existance?
Thats not a sense you talking about, thats what is generally called imagination .
Something that changes you say? if something changes to another, then it's solidiy as a fact disappears, and cannot be a fact anymore, therefore the theory of evolution with it's changing prospects cannot fit to be true, or a fact to be taken as truth, because it changes.
and therefore its called a theory. It isnt 100% accurate and so it cannot be 100% true and it doesnt claim to be either. But the point is, what there is stated as a truth/fact, has been proven time and again. Thats something that blind religion can never prove.but as for God, he never changes, he is One, he has no beginning and no end, so therefore his existance is a fact that can be proven easily if you are eady to accept the proofs of his existance, God does not change, unlike your theory you believe in.
There is no prove of his existence and until proven guilty, he doesnt exist and you are following a story that some guy propably made up hundreds of years ago when he needed some quick cash to pay his gambling debts
Originally posted by OneMuslim
One last thing.
You can accept the probablity that this universe, a mindless, non
living pieces of rocks and gasses that have formed from an explosion,
have been there forever, without any kind of proof.
But you cannot accept the probablity, that a higher being with super
powers beyond your comprehension, and is very smart and powerful, have
existed forever.
YET, you believe in the existance of aliens ( maybe, maybe not ).
doesn't this show just how un-smart you are?I can accept Big Bang as one of the possibilities yes, because it is a theory created from scientific measurements. God is however created by people with too much time in their hands.
Im little sceptic when it comes to aliens, some measurements (for a lack of better word) show that its a very small chance that aliens exist (we havent heard of them for one), but who knows.
Yes, i must be the one looking un-smart here because i dont settle for imaginary fairytales but instead want to try discover things by myself...
lmao, you really have no idea what youre talking about. And i thought you were just making crap up. Listen to me very carefully, i try to make this really simple, deaf people are NOT different race, they can have children that are not deaf, just like any other people. And deafness doesnt mean devolving, because your other senses become more keen, like eyesight.
not necessarly true.
I would suggest that, instead of reading more fantasy books, next time go pick a biology book.
i don't read fantasy books :}
But according to you and nasica, here's what i have understood.
Einstien is a myth, he's a fairytale of the books.
Science is but a fairytale, and all of the researches done by scientists, recorded into books are tales told by fairies.
planes don't exist, because alot of people never saw planes.
you don't exist, because i never saw you, you're a fairytale on the intarweb.
evolution cannot exist, because no one can prove it, because no one saw anything evolving into something, different beaks = deafness as you describe it.
fossils explain nothing, because many people die while bending their knees to their chests, thus looking like cavemen, so fossils can explain nothing but a man dying from hunger probably.
at the end, evolution cannot be proven, and it can be disproven easily, how? like this.
evolution depends on random chance for anything to exist, in real life, there's nothing called random chance, why? look at it this way, how many times do you have to throw a glass of water on the ground for it to form 10 orgenized small glasses of water? 0% where's the random chance now?
that's only one example that totally destroys the evolution theory.
another one? you don't have a brain, because neither you not me have felt, tasted, touched, saw or heared your brain, you're brainless, therefore anything you think of or see cannot exist anyway.
the thing here is, we both know that if we open his head, we see a brain there.
So why don't you open your heart and try to undersand what you can't comprehend?
Also, as soon as you find the remains of the burning bush, as soon as you find the proof that a staff can turn into a snake, as soon as you can proof to me that water can split with magic, come back here.
ofcourse a lot of events are written in the Qur'an, it has a big part of history as well.
lets not forget the city that got destroyed because of homosexuality. there was a volcano close by, but no, it must have been god!
ahh ahh oh yeah ahhhhhh mmmmmmmmm girl on girl is more fun then you can imagine.
I enjoy every part of it, though not all girls do. Im an exception