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  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356

    I only hope that whatever evolves into the next dominant life form on this planet has a working brain, instead of just thinking it does.
    Naw, the next dominate life form will be the cockroach. They're survivors, gotta love 'em.
  • Agent_X7Agent_X7 Staff WriterMember, Newbie CommonPosts: 515
    Originally posted by olddaddy

    Not to worry, the United States has a plan to counter global warming.......Nuclear Winter
     Certainly a good plan: Counter a myth with a myth.



    You do know that Nuclear Winter has no solid science behind it, right? Although Carl Sagan did make a mint from selling that idea to the global public. If you are old enough, you may remeber Sagan on TV preaching a "mini-nuclear winter" from the oil-well fires in Kuwait. Guess what didn't happen?



    Global warming is the same sort of psuedo-science trash. There is no solid evidence behind the theory. The "scientific consensus" means about as much as an umbrella in a hurricane.



    Does this mean we should pollute and destroy things? No, it means we should stop treating science like a religion and get back to using actual science instead of half-assed guesswork. I find it amusing that some of the same people who cannot fathom anyone believing in a god can get behind something else that has to be taken on faith.

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  • SoejckdswgSoejckdswg Member Posts: 338

    i'm going to start by getting my big gas hog SUV out and driving it in circles for 1 hr a day, i will then  create a greenhouse foundation to help aid in the creation of greenhouse gases so that our ancestor aliens can populate the planet. gimme a break global warming is such BS.

     

     

     

     

  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by TimeViewer


     

    OMG...Go Hug Your Facist Radio
    Here, I just found a picture of you on the net,
     



    Here is a painting of you I found that suits your post.  I am not saying anything derogatory about you, but if you removed your head, you might be able to see the truth.

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  • ValaraukValarauk Member Posts: 303
    Originally posted by TimeViewer



    I've always been of the mind that the world is populated by 99.99% idiots, and that I was being an optimist.

    You are correct of course. 



    So how does it feel to be part of the majority?  Personally, I'm loving it.





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  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646
    Can all the nay sayers please tell me why they don't want this:



    A cleaner enviroment.

    Cleaner, more modern, more silent cars.

    Preserving the unique ecological systems of this planet, and it's wild life.

    Seeing a blue sky again,  over many of the worlds biggest cities.



    All this and more for a minimal cost. So why are you against this?
  • paadepaade Member Posts: 471
    Originally posted by jdun1

    Originally posted by outfctrl




    OMG....Go hug a tree. 
    Modern day environmentalism has nothing to do with protecting the environment, rather it is a political movement lead by those who wish to control the world economies, dictate development, and redistribute the world's wealth.  For about 10,000 years since the last Ice Age, civilization has followed with the spread of the human race out of Africa to all parts of the globe.
    If that Ice Age had not ended, there would be no civilization. Only the warming of the Earth made it possible.   With the global warming conspiracy, it's all about hampering corporations and the economies of the western world.  It is just camouflaged Marxism.

     With the other side, it's all about money. And I prefer that, as capitalism works better than Marxism.

    That is correct. Today whacko environmentalist has nothing to do with the environment. It is a political movement. It is a welfare program for scientists.

     

    I bet you that 99.99% of these so called environmentalist and scientist never ever gone outside for more then 24 hours in a year. The never camp, they never fish, all they do is site in the air condition home watch TV, get fat, and whine about global warming. These people know nothing about the environment.

     

    Morons leading morons that’s what I called them.

    You two are without any doubt the dumbest and most ignorant monkeys ever to visit this forum, and thats one helluva accomplishment in MMORPG.com!



    "These people know nothing about the environment" ROFL!
  • Agent_X7Agent_X7 Staff WriterMember, Newbie CommonPosts: 515
    Originally posted by Phoenixs

    Can all the nay sayers please tell me why they don't want this:



    A cleaner enviroment.

    Cleaner, more modern, more silent cars.

    Preserving the unique ecological systems of this planet, and it's wild life.

    Seeing a blue sky again,  over many of the worlds biggest cities.



    All this and more for a minimal cost. So why are you against this?

    I'm not against any of that. I'm against people lying about "research" and using fear to control people.

    Agent_X7 AKA J Star
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  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by Phoenixs

    Can all the nay sayers please tell me why they don't want this:



    A cleaner enviroment.

    Cleaner, more modern, more silent cars.

    Preserving the unique ecological systems of this planet, and it's wild life.

    Seeing a blue sky again,  over many of the worlds biggest cities.



    All this and more for a minimal cost. So why are you against this?

    A cleaner enviroment. - I think the environment is fine

    Cleaner, more modern, more silent cars. - I like loud pipes and the smell of carbon monoxide

    Preserving the unique ecological systems of this planet, and it's wild life. - This would inhibit the creation of new life forms

    Seeing a blue sky again,  over many of the worlds biggest cities. - Move to the country

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  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646
    Originally posted by Agent_X7

    Originally posted by Phoenixs

    Can all the nay sayers please tell me why they don't want this:



    A cleaner enviroment.

    Cleaner, more modern, more silent cars.

    Preserving the unique ecological systems of this planet, and it's wild life.

    Seeing a blue sky again,  over many of the worlds biggest cities.



    All this and more for a minimal cost. So why are you against this?

    I'm not against any of that. I'm against people lying about "research" and using fear to control people. There is noone lying about research. There are people who ask the world to del with this problem, and there are people who refuse to do it.



    And I'm yet to see any real proof against Global Warming, the only ones able to provide real proof are the ones saying it is a fact. I haven't seen anything real facts from the other side.
  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    I quit smoking a while back.  I hope that's enough.  



    I don't really drive that much anyways.  I don't feel safe in a car.  Even if I'm a good driver you never know when some other bad driver is going to nail you.  So I avoid car travel as much as possible.  It helps that I'm a home body by nature. 



    I'm ready for the electric cars that drive themselves.  Then I can punch in my destination, let the main grid protect me from collisions, and take a nap on the way there.

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  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by gnomexxx



     I don't feel safe in a car.  Even if I'm a good driver you never know when some other bad driver is going to nail you. 



    Try riding  a motorcycle.  I have had some serious close calls., but that makes life more exciting to me. 

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  • unherdninjaunherdninja Member Posts: 331

    Global warming is going to hapen no mateer what. Its a fact. Before humans were made(in scientific terms) globel warming was going on. The only difference now is that were speeding it up. That is what enviromentalists are trying to stop. I do every bit i can to help.

    _Turn of lights(lights are the biggest contributer to globel warming.)

    is it really that hard

  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    well global warming will quit if it happens.(then new races will appear over time)

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by outfctrl

    Originally posted by TimeViewer


     

    OMG...Go Hug Your Facist Radio
    Here, I just found a picture of you on the net,
     



    Here is a painting of you I found that suits your post.  I am not saying anything derogatory about you, but if you removed your head, you might be able to see the truth.



    That's fine, at least my head is in a better place than where you've got yours stuck, though I suppose you need it shoved up your arse for a good source of the flop you always spew in these forums.

    Funny how someone who refuses to face the truth accuses others of being unable to see it. You have yet to back up any of your little rants with facts, not a single one, all you do is spew more and more stupidity and think yourself knowledgeable.

    Go ride your little Yamaha

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  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by TimeViewer

    That's fine, at least my head is in a better place than where you've got yours stuck, though I suppose you need it shoved up your arse for a good source of the flop you always spew in these forums.
    Funny how someone who refuses to face the truth accuses others of being unable to see it. You have yet to back up any of your little rants with facts, not a single one, all you do is spew more and more stupidity and think yourself knowledgeable.
    Go ride your little Yamaha
    Prove to me that we are causing Global Warming beyond a doubt.  YOU CANT!!  NO ONE CAN.

    The earth's climate varies naturally.   Whether you believe its warming or cooling really depends on what your beginning and ending points are.  In the middle ages, records indicate that the earth was warmer than it is now and that about 1600, the earth suddenly got cooler in what as been called the "Little Ice Age" from which we are just now emerging.

    In the last one million years we've had times when glaciers covered large areas of North America, Europe and parts of the southern hemisphere. There are times when the glaciers all but disappeared and the Earth warmed up.

    It should be obvious that the climate changes without any influence of humans, but not to Timeviewer  with his head buried in the ground.  

    It's done this many times in the past, its warmed and cooled... There are even people who argue that we should put carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to protect us from the onslaught of the next glaciation which is really out there and is going to happen sometime."

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  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by outfctrl

    Originally posted by TimeViewer

    That's fine, at least my head is in a better place than where you've got yours stuck, though I suppose you need it shoved up your arse for a good source of the flop you always spew in these forums.
    Funny how someone who refuses to face the truth accuses others of being unable to see it. You have yet to back up any of your little rants with facts, not a single one, all you do is spew more and more stupidity and think yourself knowledgeable.
    Go ride your little Yamaha
    Prove to me that we are causing Global Warming beyond a doubt.  YOU CANT!!  NO ONE CAN.







    No one can?
  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by MadAce

    Originally posted by outfctrl

    Originally posted by TimeViewer

    That's fine, at least my head is in a better place than where you've got yours stuck, though I suppose you need it shoved up your arse for a good source of the flop you always spew in these forums.
    Funny how someone who refuses to face the truth accuses others of being unable to see it. You have yet to back up any of your little rants with facts, not a single one, all you do is spew more and more stupidity and think yourself knowledgeable.
    Go ride your little Yamaha
    Prove to me that we are causing Global Warming beyond a doubt.  YOU CANT!!  NO ONE CAN.







    No one can? Quote From your link....sheesh...  Unbelievable

    Scientific --->opinion<--- on climate change

    again.....the key word for you libs....OPINION!!!!

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  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322


    Prove to me that we are causing Global Warming beyond a doubt. YOU CANT!! NO ONE CAN.



    The earth's climate varies naturally. Whether you believe its warming or cooling really depends on what your beginning and ending points are. In the middle ages, records indicate that the earth was warmer than it is now and that about 1600, the earth suddenly got cooler in what as been called the "Little Ice Age" from which we are just now emerging.



    In the last one million years we've had times when glaciers covered large areas of North America, Europe and parts of the southern hemisphere. There are times when the glaciers all but disappeared and the Earth warmed up.



    It should be obvious that the climate changes without any influence of humans, but not to Timeviewer with his head buried in the ground.



    It's done this many times in the past, its warmed and cooled... There are even people who argue that we should put carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to protect us from the onslaught of the next glaciation which is really out there and is going to happen sometime."

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    hm.  Your pretty correct there. But the climate changes have improved in 30 years compared to the longer amount of time it should be naturally. Still,we would deserve it if it does happen,huh. Ah well-won't effect this generation anyway.

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by outfctrl

    Originally posted by MadAce

    Originally posted by outfctrl

    Originally posted by TimeViewer

    That's fine, at least my head is in a better place than where you've got yours stuck, though I suppose you need it shoved up your arse for a good source of the flop you always spew in these forums.
    Funny how someone who refuses to face the truth accuses others of being unable to see it. You have yet to back up any of your little rants with facts, not a single one, all you do is spew more and more stupidity and think yourself knowledgeable.
    Go ride your little Yamaha
    Prove to me that we are causing Global Warming beyond a doubt.  YOU CANT!!  NO ONE CAN.







    No one can? Quote From your link....sheesh...  Unbelievable

    Scientific --->opinion<--- on climate change

    again.....the key word for you libs....OPINION!!!!

    So wait... You'd rather believe err... propaganda than the concencus the scientific community achieved?



    I guess I'm a fool that I'm more eager to trust dozens of objective studies on the subject than... People like you.





    Also... Prove to me that what you think is behindyou is really there, ... Or prove to me that what you remember has actually happened. Prove to me that reality is real. Prove to me that the world is round. Prove to me that men landed on the moon in 1969/ Prove to me without a doubt that trying to destroy a geurilla uprising with conventional warfare tactics is possible. Prove to me that socialism doesn't work. Prove to me that you are real and not some AI program...



    Honestly. I think I'll place trust in what used to be a demonised part of the scientific community who finally get the attention they deserve, despite the desperate efforts of corporations to use drones, I mean puppets, I mean people like you to spread their propaganda.

    And if you use anything that was once only a scientific concencus then please don't pretend to know what the scientific community thinks.





    (BTW, capitalization doesn't make you seem smarter... maybe listening will)
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Originally posted by Spy_HIppo





    hm.  Your pretty correct there.

     But the climate changes have improved in 30 years compared to the longer amount of time it should be naturally.

     

    This would imply that we actually knew what amount of time is "natural".

    Planetology is an extremely new science, perhaps only 20 years old, and our other subjects for comaprison are niether well documented, remarkable similar, nor well understood. 

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    Originally posted by MadAce





    Honestly. I think I'll place trust in what used to be a demonised part of the scientific community who finally get the attention they deserve, despite the desperate efforts of corporations to use drones, I mean puppets, I mean people like you to spread their propaganda.

    And if you use anything that was once only a scientific concencus then please don't pretend to know what the scientific community thinks.





    Why ever not? That's exactly what you are doing.

    Global warming is just another scientific concensus too. By no means all scientists subscribe to it. There are equally divergent scientific concensae on the subject. Pick your poison, they are all nothing more than theories, however popular they may be.

    It's way too early to say which side is correct in my opinion. Global warming smacks of contempory fashion. Hippy chic. Like vegetarianism was the big fashion in the 80's. Global Hyper colour in the 90's. Or the anti fur league. A few outspoken overly moral types, dinner party repartee, a page filler for the newspapers, a tax excuse for the governments, a license to print money for scientific researchers.

    They maybe right, but a healthy skepticism is advised.

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    Originally posted by Agent_X7

    Originally posted by olddaddy

    Not to worry, the United States has a plan to counter global warming.......Nuclear Winter
     Certainly a good plan: Counter a myth with a myth.



    You do know that Nuclear Winter has no solid science behind it, right? Although Carl Sagan did make a mint from selling that idea to the global public. If you are old enough, you may remeber Sagan on TV preaching a "mini-nuclear winter" from the oil-well fires in Kuwait. Guess what didn't happen?



    Global warming is the same sort of psuedo-science trash. There is no solid evidence behind the theory. The "scientific consensus" means about as much as an umbrella in a hurricane.



    Does this mean we should pollute and destroy things? No, it means we should stop treating science like a religion and get back to using actual science instead of half-assed guesswork. I find it amusing that some of the same people who cannot fathom anyone believing in a god can get behind something else that has to be taken on faith.

    I'm not sure why you keep refering to "You do realize", and "you may remember" in your post, except that maybe you forgot to take your Prozac this morning. In case you didn't figure it out, I was making a joke. The guy in the post below mine got the joke, obviously it went right over your head. Just like my post above your reply I quoted, the one about the cockraoches, that is also a joke. Just thought I'd point that out.

    If you want to make a point about nuclear winter, make your point. If you want to indulge your superiority complex, then please, continue to attack other posters using the "You do realize" and "you may remember".   Just don't be surprised when they respond adversely to you.



  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by baff

    Originally posted by MadAce





    Honestly. I think I'll place trust in what used to be a demonised part of the scientific community who finally get the attention they deserve, despite the desperate efforts of corporations to use drones, I mean puppets, I mean people like you to spread their propaganda.

    And if you use anything that was once only a scientific concencus then please don't pretend to know what the scientific community thinks.





    Why ever not? That's exactly what you are doing.

    Global warming is just another scientific concensus too. By no means all scientists subscribe to it. There are equally divergent scientific concensae on the subject. Pick your poison, they are all nothing more than theories, however popular they may be.

    It's way too early to say which side is correct in my opinion. Global warming smacks of contempory fashion. Hippy chic. Like vegetarianism was the big fashion in the 80's. Global Hyper colour in the 90's. Or the anti fur league. A few outspoken overly moral types, dinner party repartee, a page filler for the newspapers, a tax excuse for the governments, a license to print money for scientific researchers.

    They maybe right, but a healthy skepticism is advised.



    Sure, there are scientists that disagree there is global warming, and there are scientists that don't believe mankind has a hand in the process. There are also scientists would believe the earth is flat.



    That link shows the conclusion on the question "What is the scientific concencus on global warming?" and it states that the large majority of the respected papers on the issue follow the concencus that mankind is partially responsible for short-term global warming. So saying that "There are equally divergent scientific concensae on the subject." is pure bullshit.



    So who will you believe? Redneck Radio or Science (the magazine)? I suggest you READ the article.



    Yes, they can be wrong.... But for the time being, untill they are disproven I would say reforming the global economy, saving a lot of species, opening up new ways to infinite (or at least abundant) energy, helping kids not to get astma, reducing the number of cancer deaths, negating the selfish and destructive power of big corporations should be one of mankind's priorities.


  • zakk_zakk_ Member Posts: 438
    Originally posted by baff 



    Global warming smacks of contempory fashion. Hippy chic.Or the anti fur league.



    lol










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