I left because mainly the game was boring and uninspired and frustrating in it's current state.
1. Game was made to encourage grouping but lack of grouping tools and difficulty of mobs that gave descent group XP (dungeons) and rate of respawn made grouping a exercise in futility. The best way to efficiently level was to solo grind and that was boring after the 1000th ant was killed for a smidgen of XP.
2. Bugs
3. No need to stay with a sinking ship when several Yachts are close by or on the way. The mass exodus and Brad's admitting he has no clue what he is talking about doesn't bode well for investing time in this game.
4. Lack of content and uninspired Lore - Why bust my butt to level when their is no "End game"? Why quest and quest when the world is a hodge podge of generic uninspired ideas? EQI had alot less content but people knew about their races and knew about the Gods and the comings and goings of EQI without really trying. I played Vanguard for a month and all I got was my Orcs are fighting some other Orcs for some reason and we hate everyone else to. That was about it. At lvl 15 my continent was unfinished and I had to go level in Dwarf land.
I spent all last night and some of this morning looking around the .net and seeing what people where dissing Vanguard about...and its obvious and the reason that this game is considered to be 'dying' Its because the game is for hardcore players only and not for the everyday player...Because, and yes im using WoW as comparison, if you play WoW and get to level 30 then you feel happy because your halfway through the game...yet, in the same amount of time, I have just gotten to level 11 in Vanguard and yet I feel even better about it because of the dedication and how good of a player you really are. The people who are bashing Vanguard for LOTRO and WoW dont want a challenge. They want to go in, play a couple hours, and then be on top with all of the other 'hardcore n00bs' thinking they are great and all....Either that or they are people who can only play an hour or less a day and, again, want to be on top with everyone else instead of working their way up. This results in our Vanguard boards getting filled with 'Vanguard Sucks' and 'Sorry Brad' threads....I also found something else interesting...Have you (and Im talking to my hardcore brothers here) ever noticed that in WoW you run into a majority of players with bad attitudes that steal loot and that you just cant stand? Now, take that, and look in your time with vangaurd....everyone that i have met have been awsome. They quest with you, grind with you, help you out item wise if they are a higher level and do whatever they can to be friendly. That my friends is what makes a good MMO and what makes my time with an online game worth the $15 i pay every month My point: Its impossible to fake yourself in Vanguard...either your hardcore or your not...yet in WoW and LOTRO you can be considered '1337' for less than a week of total play (and maybe even less)....That and the community is the best out there, you will find no better (in-game)
Prove me wrong and I will gladly praise your game of choice...because you know what? I'm not wrong, and anyone who has played knows that
I dont know where everyone pulls the 'I can uberlevel in WoW in 1 week but every other game is super hard' bullcrap from. It took me the same time to level to 30 on WoW first time through as it did on Vanguard beta. Unless they have massively changed the xp curve since final beta I think you are just talking crap. As for the 'hardcore' raiding or whatever you are into, pretending Vanguard is the game that delivers that wont make it fun or rewarding. EQ2 has a better raid / hardcore side to be honest. Or go back to Everquest 1, its still there and it is a million times more polished than Vanguard.
Oh and I met as many immature losers on Vanguard as I did in any other MMO, they are going to be in any game, no matter how mature you claim the community to be - its why most games have ignore and friends lists, some people you will like, some you wont.
Most of the people who claim they can level up to 70 in 1 day on WoW never made it past level 10.
I think Hardcore is a personal point of view. Some people probably think masturbating with a cheese grater is hardcore, that doesn't mean I think its a good idea. When did massochistic become hardcore? If I wanted to punish myself I'd have someone kick me in the balls and save myself $50, then I could be hardcore too!
I think Hardcore is a personal point of view. Some people probably think masturbating with a cheese grater is hardcore, that doesn't mean I think its a good idea. When did massochistic become hardcore? If I wanted to punish myself I'd have someone kick me in the balls and save myself $50, then I could be hardcore too!
That is the best no BS response I have seen in a while.
This is the biggest thing holding back the success of Vanguard. Even if there were not performance issues. Even if all the bugs were worked out. Even if the content was filled in. Even if the "potential" was reached. . . Vanguard likely would not be any fun. That's the problem. The game is not fun.
If only more MMORPG developers kept that in mind. Unfortunately, there are still developers who seem to think that punishing players is the same as fun content.
Fortunately, they are learning and learning the hard way.
To me these so called "hardcore" games just means your stupid and want to waste your life. A creative mind and a intelligent one will get bored easily and want to try out new thing, they wont want to sit there grinding all day at the same mobs. Also why would you want to dedicate like a year of your life to playing a game? Isn't this abit sad lol....... same time you could be out there earning more money and going to see the real world and talking to real life people.
I think think these so called "casual" gamers are alot smarter and ambitious in their lives and like their games to be fun, not buggy or able to give them a headache.
Sure i'd love a deep game with more to do other than combat, thats why i loved SWG and it was for the casual gamer. I played however for the fantastic community back in 2003, SOE/LS since ruined that.
Oh and also the problem with Vanguard is it doesn't show you all the kool features or give you any clue they exist in the game. It expects you to do a boring grind up for like 20 levels before you see a glimpse of them. I'd rather have some kool quests showing you all them.
And this is the most useless responce on a thread titled, why people are LEAVING.
Coming from a known viral marketer (shill) your response is expected.
Lol, you're funny.
Fun is subjective; it's an opinion. While some may not find a game fun, other do.
VG isn't really any dif. then any of the other "mainstream" mmo's on the market. Same basic ui and game mechanics since the mid 90's. If you've played one, you've played pretty much all of them. Pick the genre and features that fit you best and play.
That's the reason the rubber ball(tm) is more fun that a kick in the nuts (save masochists, which could be regarded as a mental condition thus exempted as a state of enjoyment).
Nah, Fun isn't just an opinion, its a thing. That's the reason the rubber ball(tm) is more fun that a kick in the nuts (save masochists, which could be regarded as a mental condition thus exempted as a state of enjoyment). Are you a masochist? Just curious
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
I just cancelled both my accounts today. My guild, out of 43 active members, has 3 left. I got up to level 43 with my DK, I did all the stupid faction grind shi for the rewards, even did the shadowhound mount quest. Farmed 1000 coins in the arena for Subjugation. At the end of the day it's just not fun. The game is so bug ridden it's ridiculous. Oh, and if you have an AGP card, the game ever run smooth. Go read Brad's rather verbose post and he says you need a PCI-e card to run the game ideally. So, that's another 2 accounts gone. The game gets more and more empty everyday. Had great potential. in all honesty it was fun for a little while, but the past 2 weeks I couldn't do anything other than log on for 5 minutes, wonder what the hell I was even bothering to play for since it's the same rehashed bullshit.
I spent all last night and some of this morning looking around the .net and seeing what people where dissing Vanguard about...and its obvious and the reason that this game is considered to be 'dying' Its because the game is for hardcore players only and not for the everyday player...Because, and yes im using WoW as comparison, if you play WoW and get to level 30 then you feel happy because your halfway through the game...yet, in the same amount of time, I have just gotten to level 11 in Vanguard and yet I feel even better about it because of the dedication and how good of a player you really are. The people who are bashing Vanguard for LOTRO and WoW dont want a challenge. They want to go in, play a couple hours, and then be on top with all of the other 'hardcore n00bs' thinking they are great and all....Either that or they are people who can only play an hour or less a day and, again, want to be on top with everyone else instead of working their way up. This results in our Vanguard boards getting filled with 'Vanguard Sucks' and 'Sorry Brad' threads....I also found something else interesting...Have you (and Im talking to my hardcore brothers here) ever noticed that in WoW you run into a majority of players with bad attitudes that steal loot and that you just cant stand? Now, take that, and look in your time with vangaurd....everyone that i have met have been awsome. They quest with you, grind with you, help you out item wise if they are a higher level and do whatever they can to be friendly. That my friends is what makes a good MMO and what makes my time with an online game worth the $15 i pay every month My point: Its impossible to fake yourself in Vanguard...either your hardcore or your not...yet in WoW and LOTRO you can be considered '1337' for less than a week of total play (and maybe even less)....That and the community is the best out there, you will find no better (in-game)
Prove me wrong and I will gladly praise your game of choice...because you know what? I'm not wrong, and anyone who has played knows that
I dont know where everyone pulls the 'I can uberlevel in WoW in 1 week but every other game is super hard' bullcrap from. It took me the same time to level to 30 on WoW first time through as it did on Vanguard beta. Unless they have massively changed the xp curve since final beta I think you are just talking crap. As for the 'hardcore' raiding or whatever you are into, pretending Vanguard is the game that delivers that wont make it fun or rewarding. EQ2 has a better raid / hardcore side to be honest. Or go back to Everquest 1, its still there and it is a million times more polished than Vanguard.
Oh and I met as many immature losers on Vanguard as I did in any other MMO, they are going to be in any game, no matter how mature you claim the community to be - its why most games have ignore and friends lists, some people you will like, some you wont.
Most of the people who claim they can level up to 70 in 1 day on WoW never made it past level 10.
In PCGamer Magazine they talked about a guy who hit the level cap in the new WOW Expansion Burning Crusades in just 48 hrs after the game came out..... Although I have doubts myself about someone going from level 1 to level 70 in one day, but you could do it within a couple weeks pretty easy if you didnt sleep a lot or had to work... I think the biggest reason Vanguard takes so long to level is once you hit high level 30's its hard to find groups to advance your XP, so you end up spending most of your game time looking for a group... I know on the RPG server I started to see a few level 50 toons about 2 months after the game was released..
I spent all last night and some of this morning looking around the .net and seeing what people where dissing Vanguard about...and its obvious and the reason that this game is considered to be 'dying' Its because the game is for hardcore players only and not for the everyday player...Because, and yes im using WoW as comparison, if you play WoW and get to level 30 then you feel happy because your halfway through the game...yet, in the same amount of time, I have just gotten to level 11 in Vanguard and yet I feel even better about it because of the dedication and how good of a player you really are. The people who are bashing Vanguard for LOTRO and WoW dont want a challenge. They want to go in, play a couple hours, and then be on top with all of the other 'hardcore n00bs' thinking they are great and all....Either that or they are people who can only play an hour or less a day and, again, want to be on top with everyone else instead of working their way up. This results in our Vanguard boards getting filled with 'Vanguard Sucks' and 'Sorry Brad' threads....I also found something else interesting...Have you (and Im talking to my hardcore brothers here) ever noticed that in WoW you run into a majority of players with bad attitudes that steal loot and that you just cant stand? Now, take that, and look in your time with vangaurd....everyone that i have met have been awsome. They quest with you, grind with you, help you out item wise if they are a higher level and do whatever they can to be friendly. That my friends is what makes a good MMO and what makes my time with an online game worth the $15 i pay every month My point: Its impossible to fake yourself in Vanguard...either your hardcore or your not...yet in WoW and LOTRO you can be considered '1337' for less than a week of total play (and maybe even less)....That and the community is the best out there, you will find no better (in-game)
Prove me wrong and I will gladly praise your game of choice...because you know what? I'm not wrong, and anyone who has played knows that
I dont know where everyone pulls the 'I can uberlevel in WoW in 1 week but every other game is super hard' bullcrap from. It took me the same time to level to 30 on WoW first time through as it did on Vanguard beta. Unless they have massively changed the xp curve since final beta I think you are just talking crap. As for the 'hardcore' raiding or whatever you are into, pretending Vanguard is the game that delivers that wont make it fun or rewarding. EQ2 has a better raid / hardcore side to be honest. Or go back to Everquest 1, its still there and it is a million times more polished than Vanguard.
Oh and I met as many immature losers on Vanguard as I did in any other MMO, they are going to be in any game, no matter how mature you claim the community to be - its why most games have ignore and friends lists, some people you will like, some you wont.
Most of the people who claim they can level up to 70 in 1 day on WoW never made it past level 10.
In PCGamer Magazine they talked about a guy who hit the level cap in the new WOW Expansion Burning Crusades in just 48 hrs after the game came out..... Although I have doubts myself about someone going from level 1 to level 70 in one day, but you could do it within a couple weeks pretty easy if you didnt sleep a lot or had to work... I think the biggest reason Vanguard takes so long to level is once you hit high level 30's its hard to find groups to advance your XP, so you end up spending most of your game time looking for a group... I know on the RPG server I started to see a few level 50 toons about 2 months after the game was released..
It took someone on Eldre' Thalas something like 3 days to take a Night elf shaman to 70. I believe the persons play time was under 72 hours.
But consider that after playing WoW for 2 years you can lvl a toon in your sleep.
As a side note. Rwgober's post couldn't be further from the truth.
Nah, Fun isn't just an opinion, its a thing. That's the reason the rubber ball(tm) is more fun that a kick in the nuts (save masochists, which could be regarded as a mental condition thus exempted as a state of enjoyment). Are you a masochist? Just curious
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
Neither would I. However, if he tells me his game is broke and missing a piece, I don't tell him he's not "hardcore," I tell him to return the game for a functioning one.
And when the guy next door, who is employed with the marketing company tries to tell me that the puzzle game is "great" I laugh in his face and tell everyone I can what a joke it is.
Originally posted by fariic1 It took someone on Eldre' Thalas something like 3 days to take a Night elf shaman to 70. I believe the persons play time was under 72 hours. But consider that after playing WoW for 2 years you can lvl a toon in your sleep. As a side note. Rwgober's post couldn't be further from the truth.
Impressive as Night Elves can't be shaman.
However, VG is in no way "hardcore". Those expecting to relive their catass glory days from EQ are sorely mistaken. VG has much more in common with EQ2 than EQ1.
Nah, Fun isn't just an opinion, its a thing. That's the reason the rubber ball(tm) is more fun that a kick in the nuts (save masochists, which could be regarded as a mental condition thus exempted as a state of enjoyment). Are you a masochist? Just curious
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
Neither would I. However, if he tells me his game is broke and missing a piece, I don't tell him he's not "hardcore," I tell him to return the game for a functioning one.
And when the guy next door, who is employed with the marketing company tries to tell me that the puzzle game is "great" I laugh in his face and tell everyone I can what a joke it is.
ha. ha.
If I buy a car that's missing it's mayonaise jar, I don't laugh all the way to the bank, I skip.
Seriously, **** off with the analogies. That goes for everyone. And I tend to believe you would stand outside someones house hurling insults, whether their game was broken, unfun or just plain not hip. See, you're a negative nancy, and those know not couth.
The first 70 was a member of a French guild on Archimonde that leveled a Mage from 60-70 in 24ish hours. However, him and his guild had been in the beta, and already knew all the good leveling spots. The guy in question would pull, to tag the mobs, then the guild raid actually killed them. http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-2330-1.html
Originally posted by fariic1
It took someone on Eldre' Thalas something like 3 days to take a Night elf shaman to 70. I believe the persons play time was under 72 hours.
But consider that after playing WoW for 2 years you can lvl a toon in your sleep.
As a side note. Rwgober's post couldn't be further from the truth.
Impressive as Night Elves can't be shaman.
However, VG is in no way "hardcore". Those expecting to relive their catass glory days from EQ are sorely mistaken. VG has much more in common with EQ2 than EQ1.
You are right. It was a Draeni (sp?).
lol, my point was a guy took an alli shaman to 70 in 3 days on E'T.
Nah, Fun isn't just an opinion, its a thing. That's the reason the rubber ball(tm) is more fun that a kick in the nuts (save masochists, which could be regarded as a mental condition thus exempted as a state of enjoyment). Are you a masochist? Just curious
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
Neither would I. However, if he tells me his game is broke and missing a piece, I don't tell him he's not "hardcore," I tell him to return the game for a functioning one.
And when the guy next door, who is employed with the marketing company tries to tell me that the puzzle game is "great" I laugh in his face and tell everyone I can what a joke it is.
ha. ha.
If I buy a car that's missing it's mayonaise jar, I don't laugh all the way to the bank, I skip.
Seriously, **** off with the analogies. That goes for everyone. And I tend to believe you would stand outside someones house hurling insults, whether their game was broken, unfun or just plain not hip. See, you're a negative nancy, and those know not couth.
Lol, wtf man. You dump the mayo in the gas tank, makes it go faster.
Originally posted by fariic1 Originally posted by Coldmeat The first 70 was a member of a French guild on Archimonde that leveled a Mage from 60-70 in 24ish hours. However, him and his guild had been in the beta, and already knew all the good leveling spots. The guy in question would pull, to tag the mobs, then the guild raid actually killed them. http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-2330-1.html
Originally posted by fariic1 It took someone on Eldre' Thalas something like 3 days to take a Night elf shaman to 70. I believe the persons play time was under 72 hours. But consider that after playing WoW for 2 years you can lvl a toon in your sleep. As a side note. Rwgober's post couldn't be further from the truth.
Impressive as Night Elves can't be shaman.
However, VG is in no way "hardcore". Those expecting to relive their catass glory days from EQ are sorely mistaken. VG has much more in common with EQ2 than EQ1.
You are right. It was a Draeni (sp?). lol, my point was a guy took an alli shaman to 70 in 3 days on E'T.
I can't resist the temptation...
But yeah, there was someone on F13 talking about seeing a 67 BE Warlock within a day or 3 of release.
And even before that, I remember PL groups in DAoC taking people 1-50 in 2 days time using siege equipment. I think they fixed it so you couldn't bring a ballista out outside of the frontiers, but I could be wrong. I just rolled a necro, and did it the hard way in 5 days.
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I left because mainly the game was boring and uninspired and frustrating in it's current state.
1. Game was made to encourage grouping but lack of grouping tools and difficulty of mobs that gave descent group XP (dungeons) and rate of respawn made grouping a exercise in futility. The best way to efficiently level was to solo grind and that was boring after the 1000th ant was killed for a smidgen of XP.
2. Bugs
3. No need to stay with a sinking ship when several Yachts are close by or on the way. The mass exodus and Brad's admitting he has no clue what he is talking about doesn't bode well for investing time in this game.
4. Lack of content and uninspired Lore - Why bust my butt to level when their is no "End game"? Why quest and quest when the world is a hodge podge of generic uninspired ideas? EQI had alot less content but people knew about their races and knew about the Gods and the comings and goings of EQI without really trying. I played Vanguard for a month and all I got was my Orcs are fighting some other Orcs for some reason and we hate everyone else to. That was about it. At lvl 15 my continent was unfinished and I had to go level in Dwarf land.
I dont know where everyone pulls the 'I can uberlevel in WoW in 1 week but every other game is super hard' bullcrap from. It took me the same time to level to 30 on WoW first time through as it did on Vanguard beta. Unless they have massively changed the xp curve since final beta I think you are just talking crap. As for the 'hardcore' raiding or whatever you are into, pretending Vanguard is the game that delivers that wont make it fun or rewarding. EQ2 has a better raid / hardcore side to be honest. Or go back to Everquest 1, its still there and it is a million times more polished than Vanguard.
Oh and I met as many immature losers on Vanguard as I did in any other MMO, they are going to be in any game, no matter how mature you claim the community to be - its why most games have ignore and friends lists, some people you will like, some you wont.
Most of the people who claim they can level up to 70 in 1 day on WoW never made it past level 10.
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Sums it up right there.
When a GAME developer's GAME designer, (SOE included) can't produce something fun, the game will fail.
Grinding, PvP afterthought, imbalance, boringness, and bugs is not fun.
Whenever Game Designers figure this out and use "gasp" their creative side, I will be there.
p.s. I didn't leave, I never joined and won't. As a "hardcore" gamer I can spot the lack of fun a mile away.
My entertainment dollar and time is not worth this game.
And this is the most useless responce on a thread titled, why people are LEAVING.
Coming from a known viral marketer (shill) your response is expected.
If only more MMORPG developers kept that in mind. Unfortunately, there are still developers who seem to think that punishing players is the same as fun content.
Fortunately, they are learning and learning the hard way.
Well, I think that sums it up then.
The result of 8 pages of forums of the Great Question:
Why people are leaving (no lies either) is:
<drum roll>
It is not fun!
I think think these so called "casual" gamers are alot smarter and ambitious in their lives and like their games to be fun, not buggy or able to give them a headache.
Sure i'd love a deep game with more to do other than combat, thats why i loved SWG and it was for the casual gamer. I played however for the fantastic community back in 2003, SOE/LS since ruined that.
Coming from a known viral marketer (shill) your response is expected.
Lol, you're funny.
Fun is subjective; it's an opinion. While some may not find a game fun, other do.
VG isn't really any dif. then any of the other "mainstream" mmo's on the market. Same basic ui and game mechanics since the mid 90's. If you've played one, you've played pretty much all of them. Pick the genre and features that fit you best and play.
Nah, Fun isn't just an opinion, its a thing.
That's the reason the rubber ball(tm) is more fun that a kick in the nuts (save masochists, which could be regarded as a mental condition thus exempted as a state of enjoyment).
Are you a masochist? Just curious
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
I dont know where everyone pulls the 'I can uberlevel in WoW in 1 week but every other game is super hard' bullcrap from. It took me the same time to level to 30 on WoW first time through as it did on Vanguard beta. Unless they have massively changed the xp curve since final beta I think you are just talking crap. As for the 'hardcore' raiding or whatever you are into, pretending Vanguard is the game that delivers that wont make it fun or rewarding. EQ2 has a better raid / hardcore side to be honest. Or go back to Everquest 1, its still there and it is a million times more polished than Vanguard.
Oh and I met as many immature losers on Vanguard as I did in any other MMO, they are going to be in any game, no matter how mature you claim the community to be - its why most games have ignore and friends lists, some people you will like, some you wont.
Most of the people who claim they can level up to 70 in 1 day on WoW never made it past level 10.
In PCGamer Magazine they talked about a guy who hit the level cap in the new WOW Expansion Burning Crusades in just 48 hrs after the game came out..... Although I have doubts myself about someone going from level 1 to level 70 in one day, but you could do it within a couple weeks pretty easy if you didnt sleep a lot or had to work... I think the biggest reason Vanguard takes so long to level is once you hit high level 30's its hard to find groups to advance your XP, so you end up spending most of your game time looking for a group... I know on the RPG server I started to see a few level 50 toons about 2 months after the game was released..
I dont know where everyone pulls the 'I can uberlevel in WoW in 1 week but every other game is super hard' bullcrap from. It took me the same time to level to 30 on WoW first time through as it did on Vanguard beta. Unless they have massively changed the xp curve since final beta I think you are just talking crap. As for the 'hardcore' raiding or whatever you are into, pretending Vanguard is the game that delivers that wont make it fun or rewarding. EQ2 has a better raid / hardcore side to be honest. Or go back to Everquest 1, its still there and it is a million times more polished than Vanguard.
Oh and I met as many immature losers on Vanguard as I did in any other MMO, they are going to be in any game, no matter how mature you claim the community to be - its why most games have ignore and friends lists, some people you will like, some you wont.
Most of the people who claim they can level up to 70 in 1 day on WoW never made it past level 10.
In PCGamer Magazine they talked about a guy who hit the level cap in the new WOW Expansion Burning Crusades in just 48 hrs after the game came out..... Although I have doubts myself about someone going from level 1 to level 70 in one day, but you could do it within a couple weeks pretty easy if you didnt sleep a lot or had to work... I think the biggest reason Vanguard takes so long to level is once you hit high level 30's its hard to find groups to advance your XP, so you end up spending most of your game time looking for a group... I know on the RPG server I started to see a few level 50 toons about 2 months after the game was released..
It took someone on Eldre' Thalas something like 3 days to take a Night elf shaman to 70. I believe the persons play time was under 72 hours.
But consider that after playing WoW for 2 years you can lvl a toon in your sleep.
As a side note. Rwgober's post couldn't be further from the truth.
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
Neither would I. However, if he tells me his game is broke and missing a piece, I don't tell him he's not "hardcore," I tell him to return the game for a functioning one.
And when the guy next door, who is employed with the marketing company tries to tell me that the puzzle game is "great" I laugh in his face and tell everyone I can what a joke it is.
ha. ha.
The first 70 was a member of a French guild on Archimonde that leveled a Mage from 60-70 in 24ish hours.
However, him and his guild had been in the beta, and already knew all the good leveling spots.
The guy in question would pull, to tag the mobs, then the guild raid actually killed them.
http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-2330-1.html
Impressive as Night Elves can't be shaman.
However, VG is in no way "hardcore". Those expecting to relive their catass glory days from EQ are sorely mistaken. VG has much more in common with EQ2 than EQ1.
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
Neither would I. However, if he tells me his game is broke and missing a piece, I don't tell him he's not "hardcore," I tell him to return the game for a functioning one.
And when the guy next door, who is employed with the marketing company tries to tell me that the puzzle game is "great" I laugh in his face and tell everyone I can what a joke it is.
ha. ha.
If I buy a car that's missing it's mayonaise jar, I don't laugh all the way to the bank, I skip.
Seriously, **** off with the analogies. That goes for everyone. And I tend to believe you would stand outside someones house hurling insults, whether their game was broken, unfun or just plain not hip. See, you're a negative nancy, and those know not couth.
I can hear the people running to dictionary.com from here.
Anyway, flag on the play. Anarchyart for archaic word usage. 10 post penalty. Still second down.
Impressive as Night Elves can't be shaman.
However, VG is in no way "hardcore". Those expecting to relive their catass glory days from EQ are sorely mistaken. VG has much more in common with EQ2 than EQ1.
You are right. It was a Draeni (sp?).
lol, my point was a guy took an alli shaman to 70 in 3 days on E'T.
Acually I'm a sadist, but that's neither here nor there.
My brother loves puzzle games, I find them to be unfun, but I don't stand outside his house yelling insults at him.
Neither would I. However, if he tells me his game is broke and missing a piece, I don't tell him he's not "hardcore," I tell him to return the game for a functioning one.
And when the guy next door, who is employed with the marketing company tries to tell me that the puzzle game is "great" I laugh in his face and tell everyone I can what a joke it is.
ha. ha.
If I buy a car that's missing it's mayonaise jar, I don't laugh all the way to the bank, I skip.
Seriously, **** off with the analogies. That goes for everyone. And I tend to believe you would stand outside someones house hurling insults, whether their game was broken, unfun or just plain not hip. See, you're a negative nancy, and those know not couth.
Lol, wtf man. You dump the mayo in the gas tank, makes it go faster.
Great analogy.
Impressive as Night Elves can't be shaman.
However, VG is in no way "hardcore". Those expecting to relive their catass glory days from EQ are sorely mistaken. VG has much more in common with EQ2 than EQ1.
You are right. It was a Draeni (sp?).
lol, my point was a guy took an alli shaman to 70 in 3 days on E'T.
I can't resist the temptation...
But yeah, there was someone on F13 talking about seeing a 67 BE Warlock within a day or 3 of release.
And even before that, I remember PL groups in DAoC taking people 1-50 in 2 days time using siege equipment. I think they fixed it so you couldn't bring a ballista out outside of the frontiers, but I could be wrong. I just rolled a necro, and did it the hard way in 5 days.