Obviously it will never happend and doesn't need to happen but how amazingly did it work.
SOE Games
Everquest (Good Large PlayerBase, One of the greatest games)
Everquest 2 (Good Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
StarWars Galaxies (Decent large playerbase)
Matrix Online (decent)
Vangard Saga of Heroes (SOE is helping Re-Build)
PlanetSide (Good and large playerbase from what I hear)
Pirates of the Burning Sea (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
Gods & Heroes (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
The Agency (Coming Soon)
NCSOFT
Lineage (Do people still play this)
Lineage II (Isn't this game Free 2 Play now) The playerbase is down. The gold farmer base is up.
CoX (Good, Large playerbase, lacks new content, zones, boses, story) although the new alien story looks pretty cool
Dungeon Runners (F2P)
AION (Coming Soon) Looks okay
Marvel Universe (Coming soon) I'm looking forward to it
EA/Mythic
UO (Good, dated, large playerbase) NOT MYTHIC
DAoC (Good, Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
Warhammer (Coming Soon) The most anticipated game
Funcom
Anarchy Online (Decent, Mediocre playerbase, F2P every other year)
Age of Conan (Coming Soon) One of the most anticipated
Blizzard
World of Warcraft (One of the best MMO's ever, Decent, Extremely large playerbase)
(Nothing on the burner)
Turbine
Asherons Call (Good, Dated, a reknowned game)
Asherons Call II (DEAD)
Dungeons & Dragons (Almost Dead)
LOTRO (Good, Large Playerbase)
Webzen
Mu Online (Garbage)
Project Wiki (Garbage)
Parfait Station (McDonalds Trainign Video)
SUN (Coming Soon)
Huxley (Coming soon)
Now seriously seeing the above game companies and games how can you honestly compare any of them to SOE. Most of them might have 1 popular game and some of them have NO popular games. Some of them might have 1 Anticipated game... and some of them have NO anticipated games. So for all the trolls out there who want to DOWN SOE. Bring the facts to the table or stop posting on my thread.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
Obviously it will never happend and doesn't need to happen but how amazingly did it work. SOE Games
Everquest (Good Large PlayerBase, One of the greatest games)
Everquest 2 (Good Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
StarWars Galaxies (Decent large playerbase)
Matrix Online (decent)
Vangard Saga of Heroes (SOE is helping Re-Build)
PlanetSide (Good and large playerbase from what I hear)
Pirates of the Burning Sea (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
Gods & Heroes (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
The Agency (Coming Soon) NCSOFT
Lineage (Do people still play this)
Lineage II (Isn't this game Free 2 Play now) The playerbase is down. The gold farmer base is up.
CoX (Good, Large playerbase, lacks new content, zones, boses, story) although the new alien story looks pretty cool
Dungeon Runners (F2P)
AION (Coming Soon) Looks okay
Marvel Universe (Coming soon) I'm looking forward to it EA/Mythic
UO (Good, dated, large playerbase) NOT MYTHIC
DAoC (Good, Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
Warhammer (Coming Soon) The most anticipated game Funcom
Anarchy Online (Decent, Mediocre playerbase, F2P every other year)
Age of Conan (Coming Soon) One of the most anticipated Blizzard
World of Warcraft (One of the best MMO's ever, Decent, Extremely large playerbase)
(Nothing on the burner) Turbine
Asherons Call (Good, Dated, a reknowned game)
Asherons Call II (DEAD)
Dungeons & Dragons (Almost Dead)
LOTRO (Good, Large Playerbase) Webzen
Mu Online (Garbage)
Project Wiki (Garbage)
Parfait Station (McDonalds Trainign Video)
SUN (Coming Soon)
Huxley (Coming soon) Now seriously seeing the above game companies and games how can you honestly compare any of them to SOE. Most of them might have 1 popular game and some of them have NO popular games. Some of them might have 1 Anticipated game... and some of them have NO anticipated games. So for all the trolls out there who want to DOWN SOE. Bring the facts to the table or stop posting on my thread.
What are you basing this on? SWG and Planetside have decent large player bases? Obviously this is your opinion and based on emotion rather than any facts.
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
Obviously it will never happend and doesn't need to happen but how amazingly did it work. SOE Games
Everquest (Good Large PlayerBase, One of the greatest games)correction: it WAS one of the greatest
Everquest 2 (Good Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games) i hear its pretty good
StarWars Galaxies (Decent large playerbase)SMALL Playerbase
Matrix Online (decent) lol i like how you were modest enough not to put "no playerbase"
Vangard Saga of Heroes (SOE is helping Re-Build) im actually kinda lookin forward to this (after SOE is done with it)
PlanetSide (Good and large playerbase from what I hear) decent
Pirates of the Burning Sea (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated NOT A SOE GAME ITS A "FLS" GAME
Gods & Heroes (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated NOT A SOE GAME ITS A "PERPETUAL GAMES" GAME
The Agency (Coming Soon) i have a feeling this is going to be an instance fest game like GW NCSOFT
Lineage (Do people still play this)
Lineage II (Isn't this game Free 2 Play now) The playerbase is down. The gold farmer base is up. Actually a couple million people play this game
CoX (Good, Large playerbase, lacks new content, zones, boses, story) although the new alien story looks pretty cool
Dungeon Runners (F2P)
AION (Coming Soon) Looks okay
Marvel Universe (Coming soon) I'm looking forward to it EA/Mythic
UO (Good, dated, large playerbase) NOT MYTHIC the pioneer of the MMOG world
DAoC (Good, Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
Warhammer (Coming Soon) The most anticipated game Funcom
Anarchy Online (Decent, Mediocre playerbase, F2P every other year) goin through a graphics revamp and other good stuff
Age of Conan (Coming Soon) One of the most anticipated Blizzard
World of Warcraft (One of the best MMO's ever, Decent, Extremely large playerbase)
(Nothing on the burner) like they need any other mmos?? their on cruise control right now i think Turbine
Asherons Call (Good, Dated, a reknowned game)
Asherons Call II (DEAD)
Dungeons & Dragons (Almost Dead)
LOTRO (Good, Large Playerbase) Webzen They should really stick to console/single player games .......
Mu Online (Garbage)
Project Wiki (Garbage)
Parfait Station (McDonalds Trainign Video)
SUN (Coming Soon)
Huxley (Coming soon) Now seriously seeing the above game companies and games how can you honestly compare any of them to SOE. Most of them might have 1 popular game and some of them have NO popular games. Some of them might have 1 Anticipated game... and some of them have NO anticipated games. So for all the trolls out there who want to DOWN SOE. Bring the facts to the table or stop posting on my thread.
well i tried what you did ...... a very biased opinion....... just because some games are going on the station pass doesnt mean they are "SOE Games" i swear the SOE Fanbois are just as bad as the SOE Haters.
Playing: EVE Online Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2 KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
Have you played MxO? Yea it sucks. There are much better games to waste your time on. SWG? Maybe you didn't hear about the Combat Upgrade 1 and 2... Yea that game used to rock, its sucks hardcore now.
Just from these two games I hate SOE. I'd rather a game not be owned or have anything to do with them.
Would be nice if SOE owned some rights to every MMO on the market kind of like Wal-Mart owns basically every cities discount everything section. OMG NO WAY!! why would I say that? 1.) SOE is a established professional company who helps even games that are undeveloped [Vangard:SOH] build itself a tid bit.
2.) SOE's customer service is good, Other than one occurance they have never knocked me around and the one occurance recently where I was charged I spoke to someone this morning and was refunded. Thats one serious issue since 1999.
3.) People who hate SOE and like to spam forums about how bad SOE is will not participate in MMO's making the communities less childish.
4.) Every game that comes out will have a huge financial backing there fore cannot flop like Vangard did. (SOE did not develop VG nor are the PoTBS)
5.) Every MMO ever created would be on the access account
6.) When SOE buys a dying MMO like Matrix Online it re-establish's it with it's developers, advertisement, and Sony Access. Anyone who might never play matrix online if they have a access acount and are bored of EQ2 all they have to do is log in and play MxO. MxO would not be here right now if it wasn't for SOE. Crazy ?
7.) Last but not least... There would only be like 10 MMO's not 150 140 which are just garbage .....
Wouldn't it be HELLISH if SOE owned some rights to every MMO currently on the market, kind of like Bill Gates & Microsoft owns shares in virtually every competing operating software company before buying them up outright. Isnt windows so great?
Why would I say that?
1.) After spending 6 figure sums on its last two home made MMO's, SoE has realised its series of blunders has caused a shortfall in what could have been a momentous profit margine. One assumes merely by their current status of 'buying & milking' dieing MMO's that they're in a state of profit decline. While buying a declining MMO might keep it alive for a short time, its important to take into account the fact that this comes at a price with SoE, for example, sacking all the developers. Planetside's most recent patch for instance, is just a batching together of old beta features that never made it to retail.
"But they do have developers it says here on the website"
SoE manages its Developers across multiple titles, allowing them to boast a large team when in actual fact 90% of their time might be spent on another title.
2.) SoE has recieved abysmal reports for its customer service. But then one has to take into account the size and scope of the teams service, im not completely unfair . Covering several MMO's with both call centres and ingame support. I cannot in all accounts say they have good support, they have decent support that does any job which doesnt require any expense on SoE's part. IMO to bill a customer without their consent is woefully unproffesional and should be remedied with an investigation and a public apology to these issues. But will it happen? No, because SoE never makes mistakes!
3.) SoE has gained a notorious reputation for its actions. To assume peoples rants and raves of negativativity towards SoE are based on fabrications is frankly disrespectful towards humanity. Lest to say, people are not upset unless aggravated. At some point, there was an issue that annoyed a said person. From support, to bad billing, to shitty games, to bad expansions, to price upsets, anything. The overriding issue I tend to notice with SoE is there are not just one or two minor issues, there are many of them, which mount up and end with a very disgruntled and annoyed customer. Lest to say, if SoE were doing their job right, people wouldnt complain.
4.) We assume SoE has financial backing, but what we dont take into consideration is that Smedly works under review by Sony. He has specific deadlines to meet, he has to manage his companys cost/profit ratio to meet Sony's demands. So yes, while he may have cash there, he may not necessarily be able to use it.
But then again, we look at the past MMO's financed and developed by SoE, Star Wars Galaxies and Everquest II. Both were closed beta tested, and both times testers warned SoE that the game wasnt ready for retail. Yet both games released as buggy contentless MMO's which went on to hinder their profits as customers were displeased. Tell me why a company with such huge financial backing would allow games to release in an incomplete condition when they can afford to maintain the game and tweak it to a state of readiness? It perplexes me. I continue, both games spent their first year accepting money from their customers so they could play a Beta stage game. Now after two years EQ2 has reached a bug-free content-rich condition but it still has major flaws that need to be resolved. I think ill leave SWG out of the subject so we dont get bombarded by Trolls.
Also on this subject, I should add, take note of the amount of expansions SoE releases on its games. EQ2 is in its 3rd expansion now? content which, some was promised for release. This is an issue that frustrates me in person. SoE see's patches merely to fix bugs and expansions for new content. Another way of milking money from us, where as there are other games that can offer comparable amounts of content for no extra cost.
5.) With every game ever being created added to the Station price, SoE will only increase the price. $50? $60? $100 a month?
6.) When SoE buys up a company it sacks half its staff and milks it. Just look at Planetside. Matrix Online is currently in a state of minimal development. The game is dieing, there hasnt been a trial program for it since SoE bought it, which means a very small amount of new players. The few that do go out to bestbuy to pickup a copy, will find themselves bored with the small number of other new players and by the lack of new content being added for it.
7.) And lastly, if SoE owned all the MMO's on the market, it would hold a monopoly. Meaning no competition. This would allow SoE to act as it wishes without fear of reprisals. It could make you pay $20 a month it could stop pro-retail development. Heck it could even stop customer support. Why would SoE care if it owns everything. What you should keep in mind, as the past has shown this to be true. If SoE could do something to make a little extra cash at your expense, it WOULD do it and your posts of complaint on their forums would be deleted and you would be banned.
SoE is a company that revolves entirely around money. Now im not completely ignorant of the fact companys exist to make money. But there are companys, like Blizzard for an off the top of my head example, that revolve not just around money but around quality games and their fans. Until SoE's ideals change, I will not stop hating SoE.
WTH I based my opinions off 3 years of seeing peoples opinions on this forum. I do not play Either as neither do you yet one person stating It isnt good or do not have large player bases does not coincide with what the people on this forum post. Do your own research before you start making assumptions to how many people play what games.
TValentine
Are you serious??? Have you not read what this thread is about. This is about what games SOE Plays any part in and all the games mentioned are the games SOE PLAYS A PART IN. The ability to read FTW. I swear the illiterate people are just as bad all the hipocrits. Read WTH you are replying to before you waste my time reading this garbage.
Mehhem
Have you heard of Opinion and the difference a opinion is to fact? You hate MxO doesnt meant others dont play it... you hate SWG doesnt mean people dont have threads saying they love it. SOE FTW. Have you even played their games they were acknowledged for EQ & EQ II ?
Oh and regardless to the once upon a bluemoon Varant comment SOE has been in control for the longest time now there for anything to do with EQ is now a SOE thing.... Please as stated bring the facts not your twisted little troll opinions or stay off my thread.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
EQ was a great game in its day. I played from 1st release to shortly after Gates of Discord.
Lots of broken patchs, emergancy patches, broken expansions (LDON comes to mind) and content rushed out the door.
EQ2, not a bad game, but far to easy compared to EQ1. Inatial release was almost unplayable due to rushing. I was a bata tester at the time. Marketing beat out devolopment. IMO
SWG, was a good game pre combat upgrades, but it was also very bugy at release. Again I bataed and feel that marketing beat out development.
Bataed Vaguard, IMO, EQ2 with more options.
WoW, even easier than EQ2, played for just over a year and got tired of wack-a-mole combat and bots.
Monolopy aside, SOE IMO, appears to be more intrested in the money than real content or anything truly new. Take a year of another expasnion and fix the ones you have.
Personaly, I am looking forward to AoC and think Horizons had good potential but didnt make it.
We need an MMO thats as open as Oblivion or Freelancer and break away from the cookie cutter gear grinding MMO's. IMO of course
1 correction, Fallout 3 is THE most anticipated game of this year and next, not WAR...otherwise, yeah, SWG's playerbase is dwindling but it's hella higher than L1...i played L1 with my dad a month or 2 ago...it's dead, i think i saw 15 people after playing for 2 months on the Lands of Aden server
I make this reply in a completely free and unargumentive way. Okay so appearant SWG might of died alot? Alright that still is the only thing peeople are saying SWG doesnt have a large playerbase anymore.... Wheres all the SOE haters proving their points about how horrible and horendous SOE is now. I laid all the facts out for you and all thats coming back is SWG has a smaller playerbase than detailed. I figured someone would of had some type of Factual evidence on why SOE was so horrible instead all I get is
I played "title" didn't like will never play other title
NCSoft is better
SWG didn't have that many players
and appearantly Warhammer isn't the most anticipated MMO ?
Yet no one has mentioned why SOE is horrible....
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
Lineage (Do people still play this) Yes, the game has around 1,2 millipn ~ 1,5 million ACTIVE subscribers
Lineage II (Isn't this game Free 2 Play now) The playerbase is down. The gold farmer base is up. No, the game is still pay to play and has around 1 million subscribers
CoX (Good, Large playerbase, lacks new content, zones, boses, story) although the new alien story looks pretty cool
Dungeon Runners (F2P)
AION (Coming Soon) Looks okay
Marvel Universe (Coming soon) I'm looking forward to it
Now seriously seeing the above game companies and games how can you honestly compare any of them to SOE. Most of them might have 1 popular game and some of them have NO popular games. Some of them might have 1 Anticipated game... and some of them have NO anticipated games. So for all the trolls out there who want to DOWN SOE. Bring the facts to the table or stop posting on my thread. Like this: http://mmogchart.com/Chart1_files/Subscriptions_8846_image001.gif Where we can see that SOE's entire subscribtion base is not enough to top just one of the Lineage games. Matrix Online and Planetside both have low populations, SWG's current population is unknown.
Thats an outdated year old form. Wish there was a site that kept an updated one.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
and sariah, sorry about the confusion, WAR and AoC are pretty much tied for most anticipated MMO but Fallout is the most anticipated PC game of this year and next...it even got to position #1 OVERALL on Gamespot and it's not even released yet
Thats an outdated year old form. Wish there was a site that kept an updated one.
It is, but Lineage and Lineage 2 didn't drop 1 million subscriber in that one year. Both games are still around 1 million subscribers, its in the latest NCsoft financial report thats somewhere on the NCsoft site, but its going to take to long to find it. But if you don't want to take my word for it..well, you know where to find the NCsoft site, help yourself.
Would be nice if SOE owned some rights to every MMO on the market kind of like Wal-Mart owns basically every cities discount everything section. OMG NO WAY!! why would I say that? 1.) SOE is a established professional company who helps even games that are undeveloped [Vangard:SOH] build itself a tid bit.
2.) SOE's customer service is good, Other than one occurance they have never knocked me around and the one occurance recently where I was charged I spoke to someone this morning and was refunded. Thats one serious issue since 1999.
3.) People who hate SOE and like to spam forums about how bad SOE is will not participate in MMO's making the communities less childish.
4.) Every game that comes out will have a huge financial backing there fore cannot flop like Vangard did. (SOE did not develop VG nor are the PoTBS)
5.) Every MMO ever created would be on the access account
6.) When SOE buys a dying MMO like Matrix Online it re-establish's it with it's developers, advertisement, and Sony Access. Anyone who might never play matrix online if they have a access acount and are bored of EQ2 all they have to do is log in and play MxO. MxO would not be here right now if it wasn't for SOE. Crazy ?
7.) Last but not least... There would only be like 10 MMO's not 150 140 which are just garbage .....
1. SOE doesn't help anyone. It does it because it's BUSINESS.
2. Try to close You account when You don't speak english and don't remember the special secret questions answer.
3. How is this different between someone spamming how great the SOE is?
4. SOE isn't the only one with money to back up games.
5. This is Your first and only good point.
6. Only those who have global access account, what cost more than normal ones. It's cheaper close the old game account and open other game account again.
7. So monopoly would be good for us. This is worst what could ever happen for mmorpg.
I never played SWG, but how YOU explain, what SOE did was good for SWG players?
Obviously it will never happend and doesn't need to happen but how amazingly did it work. SOE Games
Everquest (Good Large PlayerBase, One of the greatest games)
Everquest 2 (Good Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
StarWars Galaxies (Decent large playerbase) ir u mean current then ur horribly wrong
Matrix Online (decent) i dont think this has ever been a "decent" size playerbase but the game itself might be
Vangard Saga of Heroes (SOE is helping Re-Build)
PlanetSide (Good and large playerbase from what I hear) well i am sorry but u are wrong. there are a serious lack of players however it was a great idea for an MMO just not managed well.
Pirates of the Burning Sea (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
Gods & Heroes (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
The Agency (Coming Soon) NCSOFT
Lineage (Do people still play this) yes many (one of the Greatest games if u count EQ1)
Lineage II (Isn't this game Free 2 Play now) The playerbase is down. The gold farmer base is up. wasn't executed well. the grind is nuts
CoX (Good, Large playerbase, lacks new content, zones, boses, story) although the new alien story looks pretty cool. one of the best MMO's i have ever played. quite different in some aspects and wonderful to play
Dungeon Runners (F2P) sounds like a lot of fun.
AION (Coming Soon) Looks okay.
Marvel Universe (Coming soon) I'm looking forward to it. gonna be sweet EA/Mythic
UO (Good, dated, large playerbase) NOT MYTHIC. i hated it.
DAoC (Good, Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games) i agree
Warhammer (Coming Soon) The most anticipated game. looks sweet i cant wait Funcom
Anarchy Online (Decent, Mediocre playerbase, F2P every other year)
Age of Conan (Coming Soon) One of the most anticipated. talk about sweet. FPS style combat ftw Blizzard
World of Warcraft (One of the best MMO's ever, Decent, Extremely large playerbase)
(Nothing on the burner) you cant argue that this isnt one of the all time greats. i only quit (after a whole year of playing) to go to a new game. Turbine
Asherons Call (Good, Dated, a reknowned game)
Asherons Call II (DEAD)
Dungeons & Dragons (Almost Dead) pathetic attempt at a DnD game. never EVER make a game solely based in a city (except in CoX but they can get away with it) ESPECIALLY if its a fantasy.
LOTRO (Good, Large Playerbase) sweet game Webzen
Mu Online (Garbage)
Project Wiki (Garbage)
Parfait Station (McDonalds Trainign Video)
SUN (Coming Soon)
Huxley (Coming soon) Now seriously seeing the above game companies and games how can you honestly compare any of them to SOE. Most of them might have 1 popular game and some of them have NO popular games. Some of them might have 1 Anticipated game... and some of them have NO anticipated games. So for all the trolls out there who want to DOWN SOE. Bring the facts to the table or stop posting on my thread.
well i can see you love SOE and hey i love Mythic and many other game companies. you are entitled to your own opinion but you cant really decide SOE is the best because of the number of games they release (good or not) but really by subscriber numbers, consumer satisfaction and by talking to other players. i dont want to flame anyone or any company. the MMO market is huge and i dont think there is or ever will be a company that dominates the rest by a big margin.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
How do you explain its not... People got a patch something to do with Combat and all quit and got mad about it ... Wah Wah ... because theres so many perfect MMO's (Laughs) on the market. SOE is the best AT LEAST american based MMO company and appearantly NCSOFT dominates over seas with lineage and lineage 2. That million or so playerbase is not a US one I know that for sure. Americans are too up tight about paying to play a game... But would pay 10.00 to enter a club at 1:00 AM when it closes at 2:00 even though they know they arn't going home with anyone.
I'm actually hoping the high # of quality games coming out will encourage a good million or 2 more people to play a MMO. BTW China consists of 52% or more of the entire world. Thats how china MMO's have such large player bases.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
Oh i'm not sure if I made note of this in my post where I stated WoW is the Best MMO thats because 7 million people play it. I on the other hand hate it as it was too easy for me and will never match what im looking for in a MMO. But I accept even though I PERSONALLY HATE IT. It's obviously a great game and will be the reason I have alot of cool people to play with in the future on other MMO's when they leave WoW.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
so now we are being racist. wow u really have sunk low (and so have i for flaming you sorry)
WTH?!?!?!? Yeah i'm raciest DAMN AMERICANS... I am one and do not tell me americans arn't to cheap to pay to play. 80-90% of US citizens have played video games and American MMO's have a player base total of maybe 2 million oput of a possible 300 million. Most people on theads and polls to popular gaming magazines over the years have said they do not believe in paying for a game and then paying to play it. Facts are facts... the whole raciest claim ... WOW you really went out on a limb there ....
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
actually i was referring to ur post about China's MMO's only have a large player base because 52% of the worlds population lives there. i think ALOT of people would take offence to that both developer and player
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Comments
Obviously it will never happend and doesn't need to happen but how amazingly did it work.
SOE Games
Everquest (Good Large PlayerBase, One of the greatest games)
Everquest 2 (Good Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
StarWars Galaxies (Decent large playerbase)
Matrix Online (decent)
Vangard Saga of Heroes (SOE is helping Re-Build)
PlanetSide (Good and large playerbase from what I hear)
Pirates of the Burning Sea (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
Gods & Heroes (Coming Soon) One of the most antisapated
The Agency (Coming Soon)
NCSOFT
Lineage (Do people still play this)
Lineage II (Isn't this game Free 2 Play now) The playerbase is down. The gold farmer base is up.
CoX (Good, Large playerbase, lacks new content, zones, boses, story) although the new alien story looks pretty cool
Dungeon Runners (F2P)
AION (Coming Soon) Looks okay
Marvel Universe (Coming soon) I'm looking forward to it
EA/Mythic
UO (Good, dated, large playerbase) NOT MYTHIC
DAoC (Good, Large Playerbase, one of the greatest games)
Warhammer (Coming Soon) The most anticipated game
Funcom
Anarchy Online (Decent, Mediocre playerbase, F2P every other year)
Age of Conan (Coming Soon) One of the most anticipated
Blizzard
World of Warcraft (One of the best MMO's ever, Decent, Extremely large playerbase)
(Nothing on the burner)
Turbine
Asherons Call (Good, Dated, a reknowned game)
Asherons Call II (DEAD)
Dungeons & Dragons (Almost Dead)
LOTRO (Good, Large Playerbase)
Webzen
Mu Online (Garbage)
Project Wiki (Garbage)
Parfait Station (McDonalds Trainign Video)
SUN (Coming Soon)
Huxley (Coming soon)
Now seriously seeing the above game companies and games how can you honestly compare any of them to SOE. Most of them might have 1 popular game and some of them have NO popular games. Some of them might have 1 Anticipated game... and some of them have NO anticipated games. So for all the trolls out there who want to DOWN SOE. Bring the facts to the table or stop posting on my thread.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
SOE does their thing, everyone comments.
Actually Everquest is not a Sony game originally. It was created by Verant and bought later by Sony.
well i tried what you did ...... a very biased opinion....... just because some games are going on the station pass doesnt mean they are "SOE Games" i swear the SOE Fanbois are just as bad as the SOE Haters.
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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Have you played MxO? Yea it sucks. There are much better games to waste your time on. SWG? Maybe you didn't hear about the Combat Upgrade 1 and 2... Yea that game used to rock, its sucks hardcore now.
Just from these two games I hate SOE. I'd rather a game not be owned or have anything to do with them.
Wouldn't it be HELLISH if SOE owned some rights to every MMO currently on the market, kind of like Bill Gates & Microsoft owns shares in virtually every competing operating software company before buying them up outright. Isnt windows so great?
Why would I say that?
1.) After spending 6 figure sums on its last two home made MMO's, SoE has realised its series of blunders has caused a shortfall in what could have been a momentous profit margine. One assumes merely by their current status of 'buying & milking' dieing MMO's that they're in a state of profit decline. While buying a declining MMO might keep it alive for a short time, its important to take into account the fact that this comes at a price with SoE, for example, sacking all the developers. Planetside's most recent patch for instance, is just a batching together of old beta features that never made it to retail.
"But they do have developers it says here on the website"
SoE manages its Developers across multiple titles, allowing them to boast a large team when in actual fact 90% of their time might be spent on another title.
2.) SoE has recieved abysmal reports for its customer service. But then one has to take into account the size and scope of the teams service, im not completely unfair
. Covering several MMO's with both call centres and ingame support. I cannot in all accounts say they have good support, they have decent support that does any job which doesnt require any expense on SoE's part. IMO to bill a customer without their consent is woefully unproffesional and should be remedied with an investigation and a public apology to these issues. But will it happen? No, because SoE never makes mistakes! 
3.) SoE has gained a notorious reputation for its actions. To assume peoples rants and raves of negativativity towards SoE are based on fabrications is frankly disrespectful towards humanity. Lest to say, people are not upset unless aggravated. At some point, there was an issue that annoyed a said person. From support, to bad billing, to shitty games, to bad expansions, to price upsets, anything. The overriding issue I tend to notice with SoE is there are not just one or two minor issues, there are many of them, which mount up and end with a very disgruntled and annoyed customer. Lest to say, if SoE were doing their job right, people wouldnt complain.
4.) We assume SoE has financial backing, but what we dont take into consideration is that Smedly works under review by Sony. He has specific deadlines to meet, he has to manage his companys cost/profit ratio to meet Sony's demands. So yes, while he may have cash there, he may not necessarily be able to use it.
But then again, we look at the past MMO's financed and developed by SoE, Star Wars Galaxies and Everquest II. Both were closed beta tested, and both times testers warned SoE that the game wasnt ready for retail. Yet both games released as buggy contentless MMO's which went on to hinder their profits as customers were displeased. Tell me why a company with such huge financial backing would allow games to release in an incomplete condition when they can afford to maintain the game and tweak it to a state of readiness? It perplexes me. I continue, both games spent their first year accepting money from their customers so they could play a Beta stage game. Now after two years EQ2 has reached a bug-free content-rich condition but it still has major flaws that need to be resolved. I think ill leave SWG out of the subject so we dont get bombarded by Trolls.
Also on this subject, I should add, take note of the amount of expansions SoE releases on its games. EQ2 is in its 3rd expansion now? content which, some was promised for release. This is an issue that frustrates me in person. SoE see's patches merely to fix bugs and expansions for new content. Another way of milking money from us, where as there are other games that can offer comparable amounts of content for no extra cost.
5.) With every game ever being created added to the Station price, SoE will only increase the price. $50? $60? $100 a month?
6.) When SoE buys up a company it sacks half its staff and milks it. Just look at Planetside. Matrix Online is currently in a state of minimal development. The game is dieing, there hasnt been a trial program for it since SoE bought it, which means a very small amount of new players. The few that do go out to bestbuy to pickup a copy, will find themselves bored with the small number of other new players and by the lack of new content being added for it.
7.) And lastly, if SoE owned all the MMO's on the market, it would hold a monopoly. Meaning no competition. This would allow SoE to act as it wishes without fear of reprisals. It could make you pay $20 a month it could stop pro-retail development. Heck it could even stop customer support. Why would SoE care if it owns everything. What you should keep in mind, as the past has shown this to be true. If SoE could do something to make a little extra cash at your expense, it WOULD do it and your posts of complaint on their forums would be deleted and you would be banned.
SoE is a company that revolves entirely around money. Now im not completely ignorant of the fact companys exist to make money. But there are companys, like Blizzard for an off the top of my head example, that revolve not just around money but around quality games and their fans. Until SoE's ideals change, I will not stop hating SoE.
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Talonsin
WTH I based my opinions off 3 years of seeing peoples opinions on this forum. I do not play Either as neither do you yet one person stating It isnt good or do not have large player bases does not coincide with what the people on this forum post. Do your own research before you start making assumptions to how many people play what games.
TValentine
Are you serious??? Have you not read what this thread is about. This is about what games SOE Plays any part in and all the games mentioned are the games SOE PLAYS A PART IN. The ability to read FTW. I swear the illiterate people are just as bad all the hipocrits. Read WTH you are replying to before you waste my time reading this garbage.
Mehhem
Have you heard of Opinion and the difference a opinion is to fact? You hate MxO doesnt meant others dont play it... you hate SWG doesnt mean people dont have threads saying they love it. SOE FTW. Have you even played their games they were acknowledged for EQ & EQ II ?
Oh and regardless to the once upon a bluemoon Varant comment SOE has been in control for the longest time now there for anything to do with EQ is now a SOE thing.... Please as stated bring the facts not your twisted little troll opinions or stay off my thread.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
EQ was a great game in its day. I played from 1st release to shortly after Gates of Discord.
Lots of broken patchs, emergancy patches, broken expansions (LDON comes to mind) and content rushed out the door.
EQ2, not a bad game, but far to easy compared to EQ1. Inatial release was almost unplayable due to rushing. I was a bata tester at the time. Marketing beat out devolopment. IMO
SWG, was a good game pre combat upgrades, but it was also very bugy at release. Again I bataed and feel that marketing beat out development.
Bataed Vaguard, IMO, EQ2 with more options.
WoW, even easier than EQ2, played for just over a year and got tired of wack-a-mole combat and bots.
Monolopy aside, SOE IMO, appears to be more intrested in the money than real content or anything truly new. Take a year of another expasnion and fix the ones you have.
Personaly, I am looking forward to AoC and think Horizons had good potential but didnt make it.
We need an MMO thats as open as Oblivion or Freelancer and break away from the cookie cutter gear grinding MMO's. IMO of course
1 correction, Fallout 3 is THE most anticipated game of this year and next, not WAR...otherwise, yeah, SWG's playerbase is dwindling but it's hella higher than L1...i played L1 with my dad a month or 2 ago...it's dead, i think i saw 15 people after playing for 2 months on the Lands of Aden server
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only if they get a new launcher/patch system
Your kidding right? Lol.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
I make this reply in a completely free and unargumentive way. Okay so appearant SWG might of died alot? Alright that still is the only thing peeople are saying SWG doesnt have a large playerbase anymore.... Wheres all the SOE haters proving their points about how horrible and horendous SOE is now. I laid all the facts out for you and all thats coming back is SWG has a smaller playerbase than detailed. I figured someone would of had some type of Factual evidence on why SOE was so horrible instead all I get is
I played "title" didn't like will never play other title
NCSoft is better
SWG didn't have that many players
and appearantly Warhammer isn't the most anticipated MMO ?
Yet no one has mentioned why SOE is horrible....
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
Thats an outdated year old form. Wish there was a site that kept an updated one.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
gameloading, sariah has a point
and sariah, sorry about the confusion, WAR and AoC are pretty much tied for most anticipated MMO but Fallout is the most anticipated PC game of this year and next...it even got to position #1 OVERALL on Gamespot and it's not even released yet
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i really like SOE the best, they got very good payment options also. had most trouble with NCsoft so far
It is, but Lineage and Lineage 2 didn't drop 1 million subscriber in that one year. Both games are still around 1 million subscribers, its in the latest NCsoft financial report thats somewhere on the NCsoft site, but its going to take to long to find it. But if you don't want to take my word for it..well, you know where to find the NCsoft site, help yourself.
1. SOE doesn't help anyone. It does it because it's BUSINESS.
2. Try to close You account when You don't speak english and don't remember the special secret questions answer.
3. How is this different between someone spamming how great the SOE is?
4. SOE isn't the only one with money to back up games.
5. This is Your first and only good point.
6. Only those who have global access account, what cost more than normal ones. It's cheaper close the old game account and open other game account again.
7. So monopoly would be good for us. This is worst what could ever happen for mmorpg.
I never played SWG, but how YOU explain, what SOE did was good for SWG players?
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MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
How do you explain its not... People got a patch something to do with Combat and all quit and got mad about it ... Wah Wah ... because theres so many perfect MMO's (Laughs) on the market. SOE is the best AT LEAST american based MMO company and appearantly NCSOFT dominates over seas with lineage and lineage 2. That million or so playerbase is not a US one I know that for sure. Americans are too up tight about paying to play a game... But would pay 10.00 to enter a club at 1:00 AM when it closes at 2:00 even though they know they arn't going home with anyone.
I'm actually hoping the high # of quality games coming out will encourage a good million or 2 more people to play a MMO. BTW China consists of 52% or more of the entire world. Thats how china MMO's have such large player bases.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
so now we are being racist. wow u really have sunk low (and so have i for flaming you sorry)
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Oh i'm not sure if I made note of this in my post where I stated WoW is the Best MMO thats because 7 million people play it. I on the other hand hate it as it was too easy for me and will never match what im looking for in a MMO. But I accept even though I PERSONALLY HATE IT. It's obviously a great game and will be the reason I have alot of cool people to play with in the future on other MMO's when they leave WoW.
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
WTH?!?!?!? Yeah i'm raciest DAMN AMERICANS... I am one and do not tell me americans arn't to cheap to pay to play. 80-90% of US citizens have played video games and American MMO's have a player base total of maybe 2 million oput of a possible 300 million. Most people on theads and polls to popular gaming magazines over the years have said they do not believe in paying for a game and then paying to play it. Facts are facts... the whole raciest claim ... WOW you really went out on a limb there ....
Games Enjoyed: UO,EQ,AC,EQ2,COX,LOTRO
Games Played(-Above):WoW,MXO,GW(beta),RFO,ArchLord,V:SOH,Rappelz,Ryzom,DDO
Games I felt were a rip-off: DDO,ArchLord,V:SOH - all newer how ironic
actually i was referring to ur post about China's MMO's only have a large player base because 52% of the worlds population lives there. i think ALOT of people would take offence to that both developer and player
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads