Noobs. My guild requires a Ventrilo interview, Social Security number, six professional references, a complete physical including drug screen and prostate exam, a videotaped re-enactment of the "Singin' in the Rain" scene from A Clockwork Orange, and requires that you take out a life insurance policy with the guild master as the beneficiary.
Anything less, and you're just not taking the game seriously enough. Buncha freakin' amateurs.
I'm not a big fan of voice chat. It's overrated for the most part. Only time I go out of my way to use it is when there is a raid or something going on that works best with timely communication. I'd prefer to read chat and not be annoyed by 99% of the idiots chatting in their mics about crap I could care less about. I'm not above putting even guild members on ignore when they won't shut up in chat, can't do that individually with voice chat. Group with people (no random invites) then if no one objects invite a person and put them basically on an unofficial probationary period of a month or whatever. It's a game, not a GD job.
ok, I only read the first page... since most responses were similar...
I've played MMORPGs for 6 years now... I've played both as a hard core gamer, RPer, and as a casual enthusiast... all at various times. Also, I'm 30 and am not logging into games in search of 'friends', unlike quite a few people I've met along the way...
My guilds for 5 of those years used Ventrillo/Teamspeak... and here is my take on things.. Voice Chat in many cases is a negative thing
1) I've heard people's personal real-life problems in the background of open mics...
2)I've played with people that have fallen asleep numerous times and snored into their mic...
3)I've played with people that like to ramble alot...
4)I've played with people whom like to hear their own voice so much they describe in excrutiating detail everything they do in game (all of which you've done before).
5)I've played with people that are great people in-game, but the second the raid mob drops they turn to beggars...
6)I've played with people whom have squeeky whiney voices
7)I've played with people whom can't express themselves with anything other than cursewords
8)I've played with people whom go off on their own and have 1to1 conversations and game talk in a room of 20 people...
9)I've heard tooooooo many people eating online
10) I've heard people whom think it is fun to yell into their mic and other's whom volume you can barely hear (I don't hear low decibel sounds, so this is frustrating)
11) I've been a guild leader and spent hours discussing guild politics on vent... it gets painful after awhile...
12) I've found that all the drama that is guaranteed to happen in games and guilds if someone plays long enough is amplified by 1000x when it is over a voice chat.
13) I've found that people take it personally if you go to another chat channel
14) I've found that over voice, people seem to be a lot more willing to gossip about guildmates...
15) I've watched people try to make relationships, because OMG it's a girl.... (get out of the house some....)
16) I've played with kids whom are still in their OMG, it's funny to be drunk online phase... Here's the NEWs.. it's not funny and no we don't want to hear someone slur every word for a few hours...
17) I've seen a greater sense of mass-quitting, because of 'friend' and voice chat regular quits...
18) I've seen such vicious arguments when 'the next new game' comes out and some are excited and some could care less (much like these forums)... chat just intensifies people's defense mechanisms...
The one thing that I've seen with absolute certainty is that skilled players are good with and without a chat server... the only thing that I've seen a chat server do is get the attention of people whom haven't a clue or more often.. people whom feel the need to watch a movie and do a raid at the same time... Yes, those are the people in game that you type over and over "*****, STOP ATTACKING!!!"...
I joined this guild just because of this. My other wow guilds im tryin to talk into requiring it as well. I think it's a really good idea. I want to know who is really a guy or a girl and who is faking being a girl. Plus by asking just a few simple questions you can learn a lot about their maturity and how serious the person is toward helping the guild or if they are just joining for free phat lewt. I think using voice chat is a must nowadays in mmorpgs, if you're a serious gamer.
What is really funny--- I asked my LOTRO guild leader to begin voice interviewing players interested in joining our guild. I figured that LOTRO even has voice chat built in game so it might be a good idea. Everyone in my guild was totally against it though, and thought i was being really weird to the point they all got angry at me. It was weird cause almost everyone in the guild uses voice chat.
I like voice chat. I think that it is way waaay better then having to type all the crap and read the chat box all the time. The advantages to using voice is so much compared to not using it for raids and pvp.
I think players who are so dead against using it to the point where it actually offends them need to get with the times. I think in many cases players who refuse to JUST TURN ON voice chat( just to listen)are so so selfish, especially when it's a feature that is built into the game.
What's the big deal? Why is it so hard for some people just to talk?
Its people like these that really piss me off. I mean sometimes there are things that really arent right and that need changing, and this is one of those things.
Its people like you who ruin guilds and games. People like you, the overachievers, the people who farm and raid constantly and then go off and make the game into a job by requireing an Voice chat INTERVIEW? You know what, its bad enough that we have the applications on forums, thats far enough, but turning the game into a job is not my definition of "fun." This is part of the many reasons why I left WoW in the first place. Hardcore guilds that require you to take your class "so seriously" that you are required to be on at a certain time, a certain date, all so maybe one of them can get a really powerful item.
WoW and other raid intense games really sicken me; they put everyone on a treadmill and tell them "Okay, the only way youre gonna get ahead of someone is by the amount of time you invest! Raid harder harder! Farm harder harder!" People are inexorably pulled into the chasm of grinding and raiding and it doesnt become fun anymore, it becomes a job.
Vent is really needed for FPS games and games that require immense teamwork and strategy. A skilled player doesnt even need to talk in vent; he will do things as he sees in game.
HAH, and requiring vent for PvP? Again, your trying to turn PvP into a job, which is even more warped than the PvE. I would *never* PvP with someone that required voice chat and treated it like a job. Im skilled enough to do it on my own, and we can coordinate accordingly. Im here to have fun, not take orders from the elitist "squad leaders" that think theyre cool that they own 5 epic items that they spent hours upon hours trying to get.
I joined this guild just because of this. My other wow guilds im tryin to talk into requiring it as well. I think it's a really good idea. I want to know who is really a guy or a girl and who is faking being a girl.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
I joined this guild just because of this. My other wow guilds im tryin to talk into requiring it as well. I think it's a really good idea. I want to know who is really a guy or a girl and who is faking being a girl. Plus by asking just a few simple questions you can learn a lot about their maturity and how serious the person is toward helping the guild or if they are just joining for free phat lewt. I think using voice chat is a must nowadays in mmorpgs, if you're a serious gamer.
What is really funny--- I asked my LOTRO guild leader to begin voice interviewing players interested in joining our guild. I figured that LOTRO even has voice chat built in game so it might be a good idea. Everyone in my guild was totally against it though, and thought i was being really weird to the point they all got angry at me. It was weird cause almost everyone in the guild uses voice chat.
I like voice chat. I think that it is way waaay better then having to type all the crap and read the chat box all the time. The advantages to using voice is so much compared to not using it for raids and pvp.
I think players who are so dead against using it to the point where it actually offends them need to get with the times. I think in many cases players who refuse to JUST TURN ON voice chat( just to listen)are so so selfish, especially when it's a feature that is built into the game.
What's the big deal? Why is it so hard for some people just to talk?
Its people like these that really piss me off. I mean sometimes there are things that really arent right and that need changing, and this is one of those things. Its people like you who ruin guilds and games. People like you, the overachievers, the people who farm and raid constantly and then go off and make the game into a job by requireing an Voice chat INTERVIEW? You know what, its bad enough that we have the applications on forums, thats far enough, but turning the game into a job is not my definition of "fun." This is part of the many reasons why I left WoW in the first place. Hardcore guilds that require you to take your class "so seriously" that you are required to be on at a certain time, a certain date, all so maybe one of them can get a really powerful item. WoW and other raid intense games really sicken me; they put everyone on a treadmill and tell them "Okay, the only way youre gonna get ahead of someone is by the amount of time you invest! Raid harder harder! Farm harder harder!" People are inexorably pulled into the chasm of grinding and raiding and it doesnt become fun anymore, it becomes a job. Vent is really needed for FPS games and games that require immense teamwork and strategy. A skilled player doesnt even need to talk in vent; he will do things as he sees in game. HAH, and requiring vent for PvP? Again, your trying to turn PvP into a job, which is even more warped than the PvE. I would *never* PvP with someone that required voice chat and treated it like a job. Im skilled enough to do it on my own, and we can coordinate accordingly. Im here to have fun, not take orders from the elitist "squad leaders" that think theyre cool that they own 5 epic items that they spent hours upon hours trying to get.
What genre of gaming have you been playing for the last 10+ years ? If you can't take direction in a raid setting because you "want to do your own thing" then why join a raid guild to begin with ? Seriously are you the type that just accepts blind guild invites from strangers?
If you are in a raiding guild you are expected to show that you can take direction and take your role in a raid seriously so you won't waste peoples time. It's been this way since the days of EQ1 raiding.
Hell even in PvP intensive games people expect you to take your role seriously if you are doing a guild/group/clan activity. I have yet to see any successful clan/guild in a FPS or PVP MMO game tournament that does not utilize some sort of voice chat communication. In fact there are no lone wolves in organized PvP events. You either work with your team/guild to achieve victory or get steam rolled over.
IMHO if you don't want to take anything seriously then don't seek out group functions or events. Be the lone wolf that plays with himself but I'll doubt you'll have any fun. MMORPG's are really meant for people who want to socialize. If you don't want to socialize don't play a genre that is built around this aspect. Stick to single player games IMHO.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
I would never join a guild that required me to interview first, neither would I join a guild which forced me to use vent. I get irritated enough with seeing people complain, much less hearing it.
I joined this guild just because of this. My other wow guilds im tryin to talk into requiring it as well. I think it's a really good idea. I want to know who is really a guy or a girl and who is faking being a girl.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
Although I sometimes use voice chat, I think it's entirely unnecessary for most games and I think most people would probably agree. I don't know if there are numbers out there but I'd be willing to wager that the amount of people who use it regularly is relatively small. Maybe that'll change, who knows? I've played games for a very long time and I think I've done just fine without it, both in PvP and PvE. The few times I've raided (not a favourite thing of mine to do) it did seem to make it somewhat easier, but I don't raid often anyway.
Like I said before, I could care less what people do in their own guilds. I can live with or without voice chat, but I can most certainly understand why people would dislike it. It can be distracting and it can break immersion. Immersion is important to a lot of people. I suppose it all depends on how you like to game. But a voice interview? I'm just myself in games and the majority of people I've met and had conversations with seem to be, also. If you can't get to know me from chatting to me in the chat box, you never will. It won't matter if you hear me or not.
I would probably not join a guild unless it was referred to me by someone I enjoy gaming with, anyway. Personally, the guild has to appeal to me as well. I generally find that out by learning how they play in a group, not by what they say on voice chat. It's pretty easy to spot a mature, well rounded guild with interesting and clever players. At least, I've never found it to be a problem.
eh, the vent interview may be a little excessive... i'd rather see how the person plays their character instead of making judgements based off of a voice interview...
that being said, coordinated raiding does "require" the use of voice communication, unless everyone in the raid can type at like 1,000 words per minute
Personal problems between people will exist in a large guild whether you have voice communication or just typing. everyone has an ego
If I were considering a guild, I would request that every member write a short invitation as to why I should join them. Then maybe if they are worthy I would grace them with my presence.
I joined this guild just because of this. My other wow guilds im tryin to talk into requiring it as well. I think it's a really good idea. I want to know who is really a guy or a girl and who is faking being a girl.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
IMO it's an understandable requirement to do a verbal interview for several reasons. Most of which are mentioned with these 2 above quotes (although I'm not concerned who's a guy who's a girl except to know whether to refer to someone verbally "her/him/he/she or IT" <-- rofl)
For starters most people doing the interview can tell whether someone will be a loner or who would or would not be a good match and not ruin the symbiosis of the guild.
Can try to weed out the 733t players who think they're just the "SHEOT" in the game or except only those ppl.
It's one of those things. I don't accept blind invitations nor do I ever expect an invitation to a raiding guild blindly without expecting some sort of invitation process which includes a possible verbal interview. Even if I've quested or raided with a guild several times. There's some things that are easier to explain via voice rather than chat.
Get with it people, it's fact of life. Interviews happen.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
Like I said before, I could care less what people do in their own guilds. I can live with or without voice chat, but I can most certainly understand why people would dislike it. It can be distracting and it can break immersion. Immersion is important to a lot of people. I suppose it all depends on how you like to game. But a voice interview? I'm just myself in games and the majority of people I've met and had conversations with seem to be, also. If you can't get to know me from chatting to me in the chat box, you never will. It won't matter if you hear me or not.
It's a matter of time really. Normally it takes a couple minutes for someone to talk to you. It's not really an interview. No one is gonna ask for a resume or anything like that. It would be more like "Hey I see your interested in joining the guild, mind telling us how you found us or who you know in the guild?", "What times do you play and do you like to raid or PvP or PvE?". That type of stuff. Most of the talking would probably be done by the person who's gonna bring you into the guild, letting you know what we expect and that type of stuff and making sure that you're a good fit. We don't want to bring you in if you're not comfortable with how we do things. It's simply easier and quicker to explain stuff in vent than to ask you to go read the forums. Then you can ask questions and get answers quickly. Like I said, it normally takes a couple minutes and then you're either in because you still want to be in the guild or your out most likely because you don't really like what you've heard. About the only time someone would be turned down after talking with someone is if they can't understand the questions or give coherent answers.
Having a voice chat interview can be a good idea, however this can be a problem when people who wish to join doesn't have a mic. Also in my experience, some poeple do not feel comfortable talking to strangers and would prefer the anonymity comfort blanket afforded by the internet, it's not like they have anything to hide, they just feel strange talking to complete strangers on the internet. This also can lead to other problems such as underaged/younger children talking to strangers on the internet, some parents just don't allow it as it can lead to other problems such as unwanted solicitations and having a child hear (dirty) stuff that adults talk about. In my past guild we have both children (we have members as young as 12) and adult members so we have a strict rule of no talking about "dirty" (excessive cussing, sex, etc.) things on vent or on chat.
However voice chat can be a good thing if you are gonna restrict your guild membership to only adult members. You get to really know someone and it can bring guild members closer as it feels more "personal" talking to another live person at the other end instead of everything being just text.
I joined this guild just because of this. My other wow guilds im tryin to talk into requiring it as well.
I think it's a really good idea.
I want to know who is really a guy or a girl and who is faking being a girl.
Plus by asking just a few simple questions you can learn a lot about their maturity and how serious the person is toward helping the guild or if they are just joining for free phat lewt.
I think using voice chat is a must nowadays in mmorpgs,
if you're a serious gamer.
What is really funny---
I asked my LOTRO guild leader to begin voice interviewing players interested in joining our guild.
I figured that LOTRO even has voice chat built in game so it might be a good idea.
Everyone in my guild was totally against it though,
and thought i was being really weird to the point they all got angry at me.
It was weird cause almost everyone in the guild uses voice chat.
I like voice chat. I think that it is way waaay better then having to type all the crap and read the chat box all the time.
The advantages to using voice is so much compared to not using it for raids and pvp.
I think players who are so dead against using it to the point where it actually offends them need to get with the times.
I think in many cases players who refuse to JUST TURN ON voice chat( just to listen)are so so selfish,
especially when it's a feature that is built into the game.
What's the big deal?
Why is it so hard for some people just to talk?
Its people like these that really piss me off. I mean sometimes there are things that really arent right and that need changing, and this is one of those things.
Its people like you who ruin guilds and games. People like you, the overachievers, the people who farm and raid constantly and then go off and make the game into a job by requireing an Voice chat INTERVIEW? You know what, its bad enough that we have the applications on forums, thats far enough, but turning the game into a job is not my definition of "fun." This is part of the many reasons why I left WoW in the first place. Hardcore guilds that require you to take your class "so seriously" that you are required to be on at a certain time, a certain date, all so maybe one of them can get a really powerful item.
WoW and other raid intense games really sicken me; they put everyone on a treadmill and tell them "Okay, the only way youre gonna get ahead of someone is by the amount of time you invest! Raid harder harder! Farm harder harder!" People are inexorably pulled into the chasm of grinding and raiding and it doesnt become fun anymore, it becomes a job.
Vent is really needed for FPS games and games that require immense teamwork and strategy. A skilled player doesnt even need to talk in vent; he will do things as he sees in game.
HAH, and requiring vent for PvP? Again, your trying to turn PvP into a job, which is even more warped than the PvE. I would *never* PvP with someone that required voice chat and treated it like a job. Im skilled enough to do it on my own, and we can coordinate accordingly. Im here to have fun, not take orders from the elitist "squad leaders" that think theyre cool that they own 5 epic items that they spent hours upon hours trying to get.
What genre of gaming have you been playing for the last 10+ years ? If you can't take direction in a raid setting because you "want to do your own thing" then why join a raid guild to begin with ? Seriously are you the type that just accepts blind guild invites from strangers?
If you are in a raiding guild you are expected to show that you can take direction and take your role in a raid seriously so you won't waste peoples time. It's been this way since the days of EQ1 raiding.
Hell even in PvP intensive games people expect you to take your role seriously if you are doing a guild/group/clan activity. I have yet to see any successful clan/guild in a FPS or PVP MMO game tournament that does not utilize some sort of voice chat communication. In fact there are no lone wolves in organized PvP events. You either work with your team/guild to achieve victory or get steam rolled over.
IMHO if you don't want to take anything seriously then don't seek out group functions or events. Be the lone wolf that plays with himself but I'll doubt you'll have any fun. MMORPG's are really meant for people who want to socialize. If you don't want to socialize don't play a genre that is built around this aspect. Stick to single player games IMHO.
Lol did you read my post?
I never mentioned anything about "not taking directions". I can take directions fine. Its when guilds turn your role into something more than just a game, like the OP suggests. Ive been with different types of guilds and the more laid back ones were the ones that I enjoyed being with the most. You can ask alot of people this fact and Im sure they will agree with me. Being in hardcore guilds is not fun, regardless if theyre raiding or not.
Using vent has nothing to do with taking "your role seriously" give me a break, cut the crap. I take my PvP very seriously - maybe thats why I find WoW to be a piece of crap, because of the horrible excuse for PvP. Ive played AO, AC, DAOC, a little UO, SWG, and WoW. Back in the days playing the older games we didnt use Vent back then but we still "took our roles seriously" using our player skill, intuition, and guts to kill the other players. We didnt need to turn it into a "honor farming session" in which you were required to do this job, while someone did this. It was damn more fun than the crap you had to do now. Vent wasnt needed to see if you took your role seriusly, all you needed to see if someone was good enough is if they stayed alive 10 more seconds on the field, that was good enough.
Btw, I seeked out plenty of "group functions and events" IMHO. In fact even lone wolfs are social, no ones completely anti social like they claim.You make it sound like MMO's are for people who are only in guilds, and thats wrong and just plain ignorant. There is more player interaction than just guilds - in fact, alot of people in guilds hate theyre guild for numerous reasons - drama, petty squabbles over equipment, players ranting on theyre personal lives. Some of the best player interaction I gained was from groupings or just me and my friends going out to quest or to PvP.
lol this has turned into the biggest super-nerd vs. normal person argument i've ever seen on here. imo, people that request interviews to join guilds (see: super-nerd) are people that i (see: normal person) don't want to play with anyways. it's supposed to be a game, not a job. this is why so many people that i know quit WoW.
babylon5fan669: "you have to get on at 7pm EST tonight, we're going to farking raid. if you're late, we're going to remove 5 gp!!!!1!1"
meisadam: "how about not"
in hindsight, please require interviews for your guilds. it helps me ID you and stay the hell away
Vent is for FPS games not MMORPG's where you are RPing a charater, thats the RP part in the name btw, if someone plays a charater its alot harder to do with some crying teen screaming at them because the did'nt cast the right spell at the right time or miss a pull. If you truly want to be a Serious gamer please get a squad togther and come play BF2 or some other squad based game where Vent is used to its full, you will find all its used for is listening to what your squad leader tells you to do and then a short reply to show you understand.
LOL. Right, serious gamers only play FPS. That's classic.
Have you ever been in a raid?. What's your squad size in BF2? 5? 8? Try getting 25 or 40 people on the same page with text chat. LOL. I've played a bunch of FPS, I played ET for about a year before I started playing WoW. WoW requires just as much communication if not more because of the larger number of players involved to really be effective raiding. I know of no raiding guilds that do without some voice communication.
Anyone who thinks a voice chat program like Vent or Team Speak isn't helpful for raiding are fools or have never done any sort of serious raiding. The guild I'm in is as casual as it it gets (we only raid on weekends) and even we know that vent is essential for getting things done. No vent....no raiding. No one complains. You don't even have to have a mic, we only need to be able to hear whats being said by our raid leader. Could you raid without vent? Sure but I can guarantee you it will never be as coordinated as a raid conducted with voice chat. Not only that, it goes a lot faster too. Our raid leader has to give us detailed instructions and typing all that out would take forever. The only time I go on vent is when we raid or do guild runs of dungeons, other than that I'm free to log in and out of vent as I please. Anyone that causes a problem in vent would be banned and kicked out of the guild so I'm not too worried about people misbehaving. Besides, I've actually gotten to know my guildies a lot better after talking to them.
BTW, I think the idea of a sort of guild interview is a good idea. The guild needs to know what type of person and player you are, in that order. I know my guild will admit people even if they aren't the greatest or most informed player but will not let someone in if they don't have the right personality. They can be the best, most geared player in the game but they're a jerk or cause drama then they won't get in. Using voice chat for the interview might be going over the top imo but to each their own.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
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I don't even know where to begin. Let me start by suggesting a few things......
1) Why don't you take a break from gaming for a week or two and regain some perspective. When you have to "interview" for a guild/kinship/linkshell via voice chat like it was a job it's no longer a game. You're taking it way too serious if you don't see anything wrong with that.
2) While you're on your break go get some sun and work on your tan. Breathe fresh air outside. Sink your toes in the sand which is part of the real world.
3) Now that your tan is going, go out and buy some clothes (you'll need them for later steps)
4) If you're old enough I want you to go out and hit a few night spots. Talk to a girl for the love of god.
5) If one of the girls you talk to is cute, ask her on a date. At NO time on your date are you to mention your level 70 gnome mage or last weeks MC raid or how you think warlocks are overpowered or ANYTHING along those lines. For all she knows you're a completely normal guy.
Hopefully after completed those steps you can come back and reread some of the posts on this thread you'll have a new view of the world around you. If you still see nothing wrong with the path you're on then you're a lost cause.
Time is precious my friend, they're just games and not worth revolving your life around.
lol this has turned into the biggest super-nerd vs. normal person argument i've ever seen on here. imo, people that request interviews to join guilds (see: super-nerd) are people that i (see: normal person) don't want to play with anyways. it's supposed to be a game, not a job. this is why so many people that i know quit WoW. babylon5fan669: "you have to get on at 7pm EST tonight, we're going to farking raid. if you're late, we're going to remove 5 gp!!!!1!1" meisadam: "how about not"
in hindsight, please require interviews for your guilds. it helps me ID you and stay the hell away
ROFL this post has practically NO BASE whatsoever on the OT.
I had to do a Vent interview to a guild who's raiding policy was voluntary. Even if you DID sign up for a raid or even asked if you wanted to go we could just say NO and no harm no foul.
But how the guild raids or PvP's 95% of the time has no bearing on doing a Vent interview.
Most of the time it's just a few mins of your time to get a little to know you. It's not that big a deal and refusing definitly shows a nature and attitude that the Guild probably doesn't want in the guild. It shows a bad attitude for one. If you willing to go through with it, then it shows interest in joining and willingness to be a part of the guild.
So if say you asked to join and they respond with "we need to do a vent interview" or if "interview" sounds to professional then what I've had said to me before was "mind if we chat on vent a bit?" and let's say you responded with "why?" usual response is "just wanna chat and get to know you before we make a decision" which is valid but already shows a tad bit of quality not wanted or if anything gives a preview of what MIGHT come.
Besides in most guilds your invitation goes under consideration by a group. Let's say 9 ppl say "I don't have a problem with him/her" and one person says "I played with him and we were on vent and he had foul language etc <insert other bad comments here>" it won't matter WHAt happens on your vent interview your not getting in.
Vent interview or if requested to chat on vent/ts isn't a big deal, if you feel it's THAT bad then you probably don't deserve to be IN that particulary guild.
A Vent interview wouldn't bother me, if it did I guess I could always find another guild to join, no biggie.
My old guild didn't have interviews but they did prefer people who used Vent, for many of the reasons mentioned.
Funny how many countless posts there are on this site alone referring to the dreaded 13 year olds and WoW but some one mentions vent screenings for one particular guild policy and they start throwing around words like "fascist's"
A Vent interview wouldn't bother me, if it did I guess I could always find another guild to join, no biggie. My old guild didn't have interviews but they did prefer people who used Vent, for many of the reasons mentioned. Funny how many countless posts there are on this site alone referring to the dreaded 13 year olds and WoW but some one mentions vent screenings for one particular guild policy and they start throwing around words like "fascist's"
We have someone in our guild thats 13 or 14 and he's very mature and gets along well with everyone. So much for stereotyping. Most of the people in my guild are in their mid 20's to early 30's. We like to screen people because we get along well with each other and don't want someone joining that can spoil that.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I think that in game voice chat is one of the worse things to happen to role playing games. If there is anything that is at the top of the list for taking away from immersion it's a real contender.
I went and bought a headset, tried it out for about a week, and haven't used it since. I would never join a guild that required it either. It's lame and it takes away from the fun.
The deal is that some of us are playing the game to have fun in the virtual world. Hearing someone talking into your ear who is supposed to be a dwarf or whatever rips that role playing scenario to shreds. I'm sure it's okay for some people, but I would rather lose myself in the story and world.
As far as worrying about giving something to a dude posing as a girl, why not just quit trying to give stuff to girl toons hoping they'll be your girlfriend in real life someday? Giving stuff to online female toons wishing for that seems weirder than someone playing a female who is male.
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Noobs. My guild requires a Ventrilo interview, Social Security number, six professional references, a complete physical including drug screen and prostate exam, a videotaped re-enactment of the "Singin' in the Rain" scene from A Clockwork Orange, and requires that you take out a life insurance policy with the guild master as the beneficiary.
Anything less, and you're just not taking the game seriously enough. Buncha freakin' amateurs.
I'm not a big fan of voice chat. It's overrated for the most part. Only time I go out of my way to use it is when there is a raid or something going on that works best with timely communication. I'd prefer to read chat and not be annoyed by 99% of the idiots chatting in their mics about crap I could care less about. I'm not above putting even guild members on ignore when they won't shut up in chat, can't do that individually with voice chat. Group with people (no random invites) then if no one objects invite a person and put them basically on an unofficial probationary period of a month or whatever. It's a game, not a GD job.
ok, I only read the first page... since most responses were similar...
I've played MMORPGs for 6 years now... I've played both as a hard core gamer, RPer, and as a casual enthusiast... all at various times. Also, I'm 30 and am not logging into games in search of 'friends', unlike quite a few people I've met along the way...
My guilds for 5 of those years used Ventrillo/Teamspeak... and here is my take on things.. Voice Chat in many cases is a negative thing
1) I've heard people's personal real-life problems in the background of open mics...
2)I've played with people that have fallen asleep numerous times and snored into their mic...
3)I've played with people that like to ramble alot...
4)I've played with people whom like to hear their own voice so much they describe in excrutiating detail everything they do in game (all of which you've done before).
5)I've played with people that are great people in-game, but the second the raid mob drops they turn to beggars...
6)I've played with people whom have squeeky whiney voices
7)I've played with people whom can't express themselves with anything other than cursewords
8)I've played with people whom go off on their own and have 1to1 conversations and game talk in a room of 20 people...
9)I've heard tooooooo many people eating online
10) I've heard people whom think it is fun to yell into their mic and other's whom volume you can barely hear (I don't hear low decibel sounds, so this is frustrating)
11) I've been a guild leader and spent hours discussing guild politics on vent... it gets painful after awhile...
12) I've found that all the drama that is guaranteed to happen in games and guilds if someone plays long enough is amplified by 1000x when it is over a voice chat.
13) I've found that people take it personally if you go to another chat channel
14) I've found that over voice, people seem to be a lot more willing to gossip about guildmates...
15) I've watched people try to make
relationships
, because OMG it's a girl.... (get out of the house some....)
16) I've played with kids whom are still in their OMG, it's funny to be drunk online phase... Here's the NEWs.. it's not funny and no we don't want to hear someone slur every word for a few hours...
17) I've seen a greater sense of mass-quitting, because of 'friend' and voice chat regular quits...
18) I've seen such vicious arguments when 'the next new game' comes out and some are excited and some could care less (much like these forums)... chat just intensifies people's defense mechanisms...
The one thing that I've seen with absolute certainty is that skilled players are good with and without a chat server... the only thing that I've seen a chat server do is get the attention of people whom haven't a clue or more often.. people whom feel the need to watch a movie and do a raid at the same time... Yes, those are the people in game that you type over and over "*****, STOP ATTACKING!!!"...
Supernerd, congratz on the first post EVER to verify someones age just by reading the first few lines
Ten points to you good sir... oops lad.
Its people like these that really piss me off. I mean sometimes there are things that really arent right and that need changing, and this is one of those things.
Its people like you who ruin guilds and games. People like you, the overachievers, the people who farm and raid constantly and then go off and make the game into a job by requireing an Voice chat INTERVIEW? You know what, its bad enough that we have the applications on forums, thats far enough, but turning the game into a job is not my definition of "fun." This is part of the many reasons why I left WoW in the first place. Hardcore guilds that require you to take your class "so seriously" that you are required to be on at a certain time, a certain date, all so maybe one of them can get a really powerful item.
WoW and other raid intense games really sicken me; they put everyone on a treadmill and tell them "Okay, the only way youre gonna get ahead of someone is by the amount of time you invest! Raid harder harder! Farm harder harder!" People are inexorably pulled into the chasm of grinding and raiding and it doesnt become fun anymore, it becomes a job.
Vent is really needed for FPS games and games that require immense teamwork and strategy. A skilled player doesnt even need to talk in vent; he will do things as he sees in game.
HAH, and requiring vent for PvP? Again, your trying to turn PvP into a job, which is even more warped than the PvE. I would *never* PvP with someone that required voice chat and treated it like a job. Im skilled enough to do it on my own, and we can coordinate accordingly. Im here to have fun, not take orders from the elitist "squad leaders" that think theyre cool that they own 5 epic items that they spent hours upon hours trying to get.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
What genre of gaming have you been playing for the last 10+ years ? If you can't take direction in a raid setting because you "want to do your own thing" then why join a raid guild to begin with ? Seriously are you the type that just accepts blind guild invites from strangers?
If you are in a raiding guild you are expected to show that you can take direction and take your role in a raid seriously so you won't waste peoples time. It's been this way since the days of EQ1 raiding.
Hell even in PvP intensive games people expect you to take your role seriously if you are doing a guild/group/clan activity. I have yet to see any successful clan/guild in a FPS or PVP MMO game tournament that does not utilize some sort of voice chat communication. In fact there are no lone wolves in organized PvP events. You either work with your team/guild to achieve victory or get steam rolled over.
IMHO if you don't want to take anything seriously then don't seek out group functions or events. Be the lone wolf that plays with himself but I'll doubt you'll have any fun. MMORPG's are really meant for people who want to socialize. If you don't want to socialize don't play a genre that is built around this aspect. Stick to single player games IMHO.
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I would never join a guild that required me to interview first, neither would I join a guild which forced me to use vent. I get irritated enough with seeing people complain, much less hearing it.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
Although I sometimes use voice chat, I think it's entirely unnecessary for most games and I think most people would probably agree. I don't know if there are numbers out there but I'd be willing to wager that the amount of people who use it regularly is relatively small. Maybe that'll change, who knows? I've played games for a very long time and I think I've done just fine without it, both in PvP and PvE. The few times I've raided (not a favourite thing of mine to do) it did seem to make it somewhat easier, but I don't raid often anyway.
Like I said before, I could care less what people do in their own guilds. I can live with or without voice chat, but I can most certainly understand why people would dislike it. It can be distracting and it can break immersion. Immersion is important to a lot of people. I suppose it all depends on how you like to game. But a voice interview? I'm just myself in games and the majority of people I've met and had conversations with seem to be, also. If you can't get to know me from chatting to me in the chat box, you never will. It won't matter if you hear me or not.
I would probably not join a guild unless it was referred to me by someone I enjoy gaming with, anyway. Personally, the guild has to appeal to me as well. I generally find that out by learning how they play in a group, not by what they say on voice chat. It's pretty easy to spot a mature, well rounded guild with interesting and clever players. At least, I've never found it to be a problem.
eh, the vent interview may be a little excessive... i'd rather see how the person plays their character instead of making judgements based off of a voice interview...
that being said, coordinated raiding does "require" the use of voice communication, unless everyone in the raid can type at like 1,000 words per minute
Personal problems between people will exist in a large guild whether you have voice communication or just typing. everyone has an ego
I woouldnt join a guild with vent interview period.
i dont mind req to have vent to be able to hear guild leader etc.
Thats pretty much needed.
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If I were considering a guild, I would request that every member write a short invitation as to why I should join them. Then maybe if they are worthy I would grace them with my presence.
I like the idea too, but not for the reason you mention here. I could care less if you are a guy or a girl. All I care about is that you can carry on a decent conversation and follow some simple rules. That's what's required in a raid or when just grouping up, so I'd like to know that I can ask you to sheep and you understand what I'm talking about and can attempt to do it or that I can say roll for an item and you roll. Stuff like that. You can get a pretty good idea of the maturity and common sense someone has by talking to them for 5 minutes on Ventrilo. It's tougher to get that from in game chat or even a web page application. If you want to be in a guild, get Vent. You don't ever have to open your mouth if you don't want, but at least let me know you can pay attention and follow direction. Not too much to ask I don't think.
IMO it's an understandable requirement to do a verbal interview for several reasons. Most of which are mentioned with these 2 above quotes (although I'm not concerned who's a guy who's a girl except to know whether to refer to someone verbally "her/him/he/she or IT" <-- rofl)
For starters most people doing the interview can tell whether someone will be a loner or who would or would not be a good match and not ruin the symbiosis of the guild.
Can try to weed out the 733t players who think they're just the "SHEOT" in the game or except only those ppl.
It's one of those things. I don't accept blind invitations nor do I ever expect an invitation to a raiding guild blindly without expecting some sort of invitation process which includes a possible verbal interview. Even if I've quested or raided with a guild several times. There's some things that are easier to explain via voice rather than chat.
Get with it people, it's fact of life. Interviews happen.
Like I said before, I could care less what people do in their own guilds. I can live with or without voice chat, but I can most certainly understand why people would dislike it. It can be distracting and it can break immersion. Immersion is important to a lot of people. I suppose it all depends on how you like to game. But a voice interview? I'm just myself in games and the majority of people I've met and had conversations with seem to be, also. If you can't get to know me from chatting to me in the chat box, you never will. It won't matter if you hear me or not.
It's a matter of time really. Normally it takes a couple minutes for someone to talk to you. It's not really an interview. No one is gonna ask for a resume or anything like that. It would be more like "Hey I see your interested in joining the guild, mind telling us how you found us or who you know in the guild?", "What times do you play and do you like to raid or PvP or PvE?". That type of stuff. Most of the talking would probably be done by the person who's gonna bring you into the guild, letting you know what we expect and that type of stuff and making sure that you're a good fit. We don't want to bring you in if you're not comfortable with how we do things. It's simply easier and quicker to explain stuff in vent than to ask you to go read the forums. Then you can ask questions and get answers quickly. Like I said, it normally takes a couple minutes and then you're either in because you still want to be in the guild or your out most likely because you don't really like what you've heard. About the only time someone would be turned down after talking with someone is if they can't understand the questions or give coherent answers.
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Having a voice chat interview can be a good idea, however this can be a problem when people who wish to join doesn't have a mic. Also in my experience, some poeple do not feel comfortable talking to strangers and would prefer the anonymity comfort blanket afforded by the internet, it's not like they have anything to hide, they just feel strange talking to complete strangers on the internet. This also can lead to other problems such as underaged/younger children talking to strangers on the internet, some parents just don't allow it as it can lead to other problems such as unwanted solicitations and having a child hear (dirty) stuff that adults talk about. In my past guild we have both children (we have members as young as 12) and adult members so we have a strict rule of no talking about "dirty" (excessive cussing, sex, etc.) things on vent or on chat.
However voice chat can be a good thing if you are gonna restrict your guild membership to only adult members. You get to really know someone and it can bring guild members closer as it feels more "personal" talking to another live person at the other end instead of everything being just text.
Its people like these that really piss me off. I mean sometimes there are things that really arent right and that need changing, and this is one of those things.Its people like you who ruin guilds and games. People like you, the overachievers, the people who farm and raid constantly and then go off and make the game into a job by requireing an Voice chat INTERVIEW? You know what, its bad enough that we have the applications on forums, thats far enough, but turning the game into a job is not my definition of "fun." This is part of the many reasons why I left WoW in the first place. Hardcore guilds that require you to take your class "so seriously" that you are required to be on at a certain time, a certain date, all so maybe one of them can get a really powerful item.
WoW and other raid intense games really sicken me; they put everyone on a treadmill and tell them "Okay, the only way youre gonna get ahead of someone is by the amount of time you invest! Raid harder harder! Farm harder harder!" People are inexorably pulled into the chasm of grinding and raiding and it doesnt become fun anymore, it becomes a job.
Vent is really needed for FPS games and games that require immense teamwork and strategy. A skilled player doesnt even need to talk in vent; he will do things as he sees in game.
HAH, and requiring vent for PvP? Again, your trying to turn PvP into a job, which is even more warped than the PvE. I would *never* PvP with someone that required voice chat and treated it like a job. Im skilled enough to do it on my own, and we can coordinate accordingly. Im here to have fun, not take orders from the elitist "squad leaders" that think theyre cool that they own 5 epic items that they spent hours upon hours trying to get.
What genre of gaming have you been playing for the last 10+ years ? If you can't take direction in a raid setting because you "want to do your own thing" then why join a raid guild to begin with ? Seriously are you the type that just accepts blind guild invites from strangers?
If you are in a raiding guild you are expected to show that you can take direction and take your role in a raid seriously so you won't waste peoples time. It's been this way since the days of EQ1 raiding.
Hell even in PvP intensive games people expect you to take your role seriously if you are doing a guild/group/clan activity. I have yet to see any successful clan/guild in a FPS or PVP MMO game tournament that does not utilize some sort of voice chat communication. In fact there are no lone wolves in organized PvP events. You either work with your team/guild to achieve victory or get steam rolled over.
IMHO if you don't want to take anything seriously then don't seek out group functions or events. Be the lone wolf that plays with himself but I'll doubt you'll have any fun. MMORPG's are really meant for people who want to socialize. If you don't want to socialize don't play a genre that is built around this aspect. Stick to single player games IMHO.
Lol did you read my post?
I never mentioned anything about "not taking directions". I can take directions fine. Its when guilds turn your role into something more than just a game, like the OP suggests. Ive been with different types of guilds and the more laid back ones were the ones that I enjoyed being with the most. You can ask alot of people this fact and Im sure they will agree with me. Being in hardcore guilds is not fun, regardless if theyre raiding or not.
Using vent has nothing to do with taking "your role seriously" give me a break, cut the crap. I take my PvP very seriously - maybe thats why I find WoW to be a piece of crap, because of the horrible excuse for PvP. Ive played AO, AC, DAOC, a little UO, SWG, and WoW. Back in the days playing the older games we didnt use Vent back then but we still "took our roles seriously" using our player skill, intuition, and guts to kill the other players. We didnt need to turn it into a "honor farming session" in which you were required to do this job, while someone did this. It was damn more fun than the crap you had to do now. Vent wasnt needed to see if you took your role seriusly, all you needed to see if someone was good enough is if they stayed alive 10 more seconds on the field, that was good enough.
Btw, I seeked out plenty of "group functions and events" IMHO. In fact even lone wolfs are social, no ones completely anti social like they claim.You make it sound like MMO's are for people who are only in guilds, and thats wrong and just plain ignorant. There is more player interaction than just guilds - in fact, alot of people in guilds hate theyre guild for numerous reasons - drama, petty squabbles over equipment, players ranting on theyre personal lives. Some of the best player interaction I gained was from groupings or just me and my friends going out to quest or to PvP.
lol this has turned into the biggest super-nerd vs. normal person argument i've ever seen on here. imo, people that request interviews to join guilds (see: super-nerd) are people that i (see: normal person) don't want to play with anyways. it's supposed to be a game, not a job. this is why so many people that i know quit WoW.
babylon5fan669: "you have to get on at 7pm EST tonight, we're going to farking raid. if you're late, we're going to remove 5 gp!!!!1!1"
meisadam: "how about not"
in hindsight, please require interviews for your guilds. it helps me ID you and stay the hell away
Have you ever been in a raid?. What's your squad size in BF2? 5? 8? Try getting 25 or 40 people on the same page with text chat. LOL. I've played a bunch of FPS, I played ET for about a year before I started playing WoW. WoW requires just as much communication if not more because of the larger number of players involved to really be effective raiding. I know of no raiding guilds that do without some voice communication.
Anyone who thinks a voice chat program like Vent or Team Speak isn't helpful for raiding are fools or have never done any sort of serious raiding. The guild I'm in is as casual as it it gets (we only raid on weekends) and even we know that vent is essential for getting things done. No vent....no raiding. No one complains. You don't even have to have a mic, we only need to be able to hear whats being said by our raid leader. Could you raid without vent? Sure but I can guarantee you it will never be as coordinated as a raid conducted with voice chat. Not only that, it goes a lot faster too. Our raid leader has to give us detailed instructions and typing all that out would take forever. The only time I go on vent is when we raid or do guild runs of dungeons, other than that I'm free to log in and out of vent as I please. Anyone that causes a problem in vent would be banned and kicked out of the guild so I'm not too worried about people misbehaving. Besides, I've actually gotten to know my guildies a lot better after talking to them.
BTW, I think the idea of a sort of guild interview is a good idea. The guild needs to know what type of person and player you are, in that order. I know my guild will admit people even if they aren't the greatest or most informed player but will not let someone in if they don't have the right personality. They can be the best, most geared player in the game but they're a jerk or cause drama then they won't get in. Using voice chat for the interview might be going over the top imo but to each their own.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I don't even know where to begin. Let me start by suggesting a few things......
1) Why don't you take a break from gaming for a week or two and regain some perspective. When you have to "interview" for a guild/kinship/linkshell via voice chat like it was a job it's no longer a game. You're taking it way too serious if you don't see anything wrong with that.
2) While you're on your break go get some sun and work on your tan. Breathe fresh air outside. Sink your toes in the sand which is part of the real world.
3) Now that your tan is going, go out and buy some clothes (you'll need them for later steps)
4) If you're old enough I want you to go out and hit a few night spots. Talk to a girl for the love of god.
5) If one of the girls you talk to is cute, ask her on a date. At NO time on your date are you to mention your level 70 gnome mage or last weeks MC raid or how you think warlocks are overpowered or ANYTHING along those lines. For all she knows you're a completely normal guy.
Hopefully after completed those steps you can come back and reread some of the posts on this thread you'll have a new view of the world around you. If you still see nothing wrong with the path you're on then you're a lost cause.
Time is precious my friend, they're just games and not worth revolving your life around.
I had to do a Vent interview to a guild who's raiding policy was voluntary. Even if you DID sign up for a raid or even asked if you wanted to go we could just say NO and no harm no foul.
But how the guild raids or PvP's 95% of the time has no bearing on doing a Vent interview.
Most of the time it's just a few mins of your time to get a little to know you. It's not that big a deal and refusing definitly shows a nature and attitude that the Guild probably doesn't want in the guild. It shows a bad attitude for one. If you willing to go through with it, then it shows interest in joining and willingness to be a part of the guild.
So if say you asked to join and they respond with "we need to do a vent interview" or if "interview" sounds to professional then what I've had said to me before was "mind if we chat on vent a bit?" and let's say you responded with "why?" usual response is "just wanna chat and get to know you before we make a decision" which is valid but already shows a tad bit of quality not wanted or if anything gives a preview of what MIGHT come.
Besides in most guilds your invitation goes under consideration by a group. Let's say 9 ppl say "I don't have a problem with him/her" and one person says "I played with him and we were on vent and he had foul language etc <insert other bad comments here>" it won't matter WHAt happens on your vent interview your not getting in.
Vent interview or if requested to chat on vent/ts isn't a big deal, if you feel it's THAT bad then you probably don't deserve to be IN that particulary guild.
LOL.
All this is simply a problematic around the RAIDING game. I honestly can't care less about what you do or not over there.
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A Vent interview wouldn't bother me, if it did I guess I could always find another guild to join, no biggie.
My old guild didn't have interviews but they did prefer people who used Vent, for many of the reasons mentioned.
Funny how many countless posts there are on this site alone referring to the dreaded 13 year olds and WoW but some one mentions vent screenings for one particular guild policy and they start throwing around words like "fascist's"
We have someone in our guild thats 13 or 14 and he's very mature and gets along well with everyone. So much for stereotyping. Most of the people in my guild are in their mid 20's to early 30's. We like to screen people because we get along well with each other and don't want someone joining that can spoil that.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I think that in game voice chat is one of the worse things to happen to role playing games. If there is anything that is at the top of the list for taking away from immersion it's a real contender.
I went and bought a headset, tried it out for about a week, and haven't used it since. I would never join a guild that required it either. It's lame and it takes away from the fun.
The deal is that some of us are playing the game to have fun in the virtual world. Hearing someone talking into your ear who is supposed to be a dwarf or whatever rips that role playing scenario to shreds. I'm sure it's okay for some people, but I would rather lose myself in the story and world.
As far as worrying about giving something to a dude posing as a girl, why not just quit trying to give stuff to girl toons hoping they'll be your girlfriend in real life someday? Giving stuff to online female toons wishing for that seems weirder than someone playing a female who is male.
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