I'm not sure you guys get my point, cause I'm not questioning wether WoW is the best game or not. Because that is a subjective decision. The only way we can measure, from a group, wether it is good or not, is if it's popular or not. Not to make this into a political thread, but that's the way politics works - we can't decide which political direction is best, so we let the masses decide. The political group with most popularity gets to run the show. Or that's the way it works with democrazy anyway (which has come in place because it's more popluar than dictatorship ) So popularity is the only way to make your mind up based on others choice - ofc if you want to make your own mind up you have to try all the games listed. If not you're still just listening to other people to a more or less degree. So that's why I'm questioning the list, you could very well say that WoW is a McDonalds, but in RL the quality restaurants are more expensive - most of the games don't charge you more than WoW, in fact they are cheaper...
Two reasons:
1. The vast majority of people who like WoW are not likely to frequent a site like this -- this site is mostly frequented by malcontents (myself included) looking for something different.
2. WoW is actually cheaper, in a sense, based on its easy hardware requirements. Again, the majority of people that are playing WoW simply because they can play it on their crappy computers are not likely to be so into computer games that they would spend even more time surfing MMORPG.com. If they were that dedicated to gaming, they'd dedicate more of their income to upgrading their hardware.
1. That's what makes me questioning the ranking.
2. both Anarchy online and Ultima Online are ranked higher, one is cheaper than WoW, and the other is for free, and they can both run on cheaper machines, or at least same quality machines.
And also, alot of the games have adjustable video settings, so you could play all of them on a laptop, but you'd get really bad visuals though, but still playable
yes it can have a good community in the game the content was ok when leveling. the grouping and raiding used to be fun.
but when you get to the max level the amount of content is quite disappointing and boring.
solo play is basically doing the daily quests day in day out PvP well is PvP - can be fun or not depends :P and raiding is slightly strict in most places since their expansion.
but with the lack of content not many people will rate it as good now as it used to be as it's the same thing all over again..
i guessing then the expansion comes out the rating will go up with the new features they are going to implement in the game
I'm not sure you guys get my point, cause I'm not questioning wether WoW is the best game or not. Because that is a subjective decision. The only way we can measure, from a group, wether it is good or not, is if it's popular or not. Not to make this into a political thread, but that's the way politics works - we can't decide which political direction is best, so we let the masses decide. The political group with most popularity gets to run the show. Or that's the way it works with democrazy anyway (which has come in place because it's more popluar than dictatorship ) So popularity is the only way to make your mind up based on others choice - ofc if you want to make your own mind up you have to try all the games listed. If not you're still just listening to other people to a more or less degree. So that's why I'm questioning the list, you could very well say that WoW is a McDonalds, but in RL the quality restaurants are more expensive - most of the games don't charge you more than WoW, in fact they are cheaper...
Two reasons:
1. The vast majority of people who like WoW are not likely to frequent a site like this -- this site is mostly frequented by malcontents (myself included) looking for something different.
2. WoW is actually cheaper, in a sense, based on its easy hardware requirements. Again, the majority of people that are playing WoW simply because they can play it on their crappy computers are not likely to be so into computer games that they would spend even more time surfing MMORPG.com. If they were that dedicated to gaming, they'd dedicate more of their income to upgrading their hardware.
1. That's what makes me questioning the ranking.
2. both Anarchy online and Ultima Online are ranked higher, one is cheaper than WoW, and the other is for free, and they can both run on cheaper machines, or at least same quality machines.
And also, alot of the games have adjustable video settings, so you could play all of them on a laptop, but you'd get really bad visuals though, but still playable
Its because Ultima Online was a breakthrough in the genre. It was the first massively successful MMO, and had such a unique, innovative, and ahead of its time feature list, that no game has come out since to match it. Darkfall is the closest, but its not out yet. Anarchy Online.. probably because it was another of the pioneer MMOs.
A lot of ppl hate wow. The rating is user vote based.
Last time i checked Lotro was "number one". Wow has subs but crappy graphics by today's standard. Also leveling is ridiculously easy 1-60. These are just 2 things that won't appeal to everyone.
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Yeah this board has a very different crowd then other MMO message boards. As said most of the people are looking for something new.
As for WoW I must admit I switched over to WoW looking for something easier then EQ at the time it came out and I had some fun playing it. Unfortunately I never had the same memories as from EQ or even UO as there was never any moments of frustration. I find that without frustration the reward you get is pretty meaningless. The rewards remember the most are the ones where you had a lot of difficulty getting what you wanted and in the end all you will take with you are those memories.
If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
McDonalds is the biggest restaurant chain in the world (more thank likely) I don't see them winning too many culinary awards for fine cuisine.
You can get someone to buy a dog turd if you wrap it correctly.
WoW is by no means the best MMORPG out there. Just has the most subs.
But really it doesn't make sense, it's got 10 mill subs, millions more than any other game, and it's ranked at some 20th or so?
Cause its a commercial game. Britney Spears surely has more fallowers, but is her music really better then that of "The Doors" or I dunno "Metallica"?
Bad example though because they both sells more then Britney world wide :P
I prefer to compare WoW to junk food such as McDonald, vs another game that makes you use your brain called "whatever fine cuisine restaurant". They are both popular for the same reasons: They are accessible. (One for the price, the other for the incredibly dumb down gameplay)
Now if you would log on a gastronomy website, it's pretty obvious that McDonald wouldn't be in the top 1000 best restaurant in the world for obvious reasons. Like it or not, people on MMORPG.com has more gaming culture then your average WoW numb nuts.
Pretty simple now to understand why WoW as 10 millions subscriber. It must be the same percentile of people eating McDo 3 times a week or more.
Creativity : The ability to transcend traditional ideas, rules, patterns, relationships, or the like, and to create meaningful new ideas, forms, methods or interpretations; using originality, progressiveness, or imagination.
WoW is by no means the best MMORPG out there. Just has the most subs.
But really it doesn't make sense, it's got 10 mill subs, millions more than any other game, and it's ranked at some 20th or so?
Cause its a commercial game. Britney Spears surely has more fallowers, but is her music really better then that of "The Doors" or I dunno "Metallica"?
Bad example though because they both sells more then Britney world wide :P
I prefer to compare WoW to junk food such as McDonald, vs another game that makes you use your brain called "whatever fine cuisine restaurant". They are both popular for the same reasons: They are accessible. (One for the price, the other for the incredibly dumb down gameplay)
Now if you would log on a gastronomy website, it's pretty obvious that McDonald wouldn't be in the top 1000 best restaurant in the world for obvious reasons. Like it or not, people on MMORPG.com has more gaming culture then your average WoW numb nuts.
Pretty simple now to understand why WoW as 10 millions subscriber. It must be the same percentile of people eating McDo 3 times a week or more.
And the game that makes you use your brain would be....?
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it isn't number 1 because this is mainly the "mmo" community not the "WoW" community and many ppl here hates WoW, and since the ratings are player-based, of course WoW won't get a high ranking on this site
its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
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its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
you know eventually it gets very tiring dealing with people who are close minded....yes WoW did bring well I can't "officially" judge of course, but I would say around 60% of the mmorpg players into the mix. sadly most of the people who were brought in through WoW were idiots...being children or adults it doesn't matter it only matters that they're idiots. If you think WoW is the only great MMO out there your incredibly close minded and have absolutely no taste. your the kind of people that don't set the trends, but decide to go along with them because everyone else does. really I could go on forever about how wrong most of the people are who have decided to grant themselves the title of fanboy for WoW( though they seem more like those annoying ass mormons who try to push their beliefs on other people and are completely ignorant of anything else other than what they decide is right), BUT I'm tired of it so eh just slap yourselves while I go do something worthy of my time.
its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
And AoC is like...a concept car
I was thinking that would be more like Darkfall, i.e. a concept car that will never be sold.
To me, AoC is more like a electric car--lots of unrealized potential and frequent refueling (loading).
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its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
And AoC is like...a concept car
I was thinking that would be more like Darkfall, i.e. a concept car that will never be sold.
To me, AoC is more like a electric car--lots of unrealized potential and frequent refueling (loading).
Hate to tell you, but since the publisher news, its not popular to bash Darkfall these days, considering, you know... it actually exists.
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Two reasons:
1. The vast majority of people who like WoW are not likely to frequent a site like this -- this site is mostly frequented by malcontents (myself included) looking for something different.
2. WoW is actually cheaper, in a sense, based on its easy hardware requirements. Again, the majority of people that are playing WoW simply because they can play it on their crappy computers are not likely to be so into computer games that they would spend even more time surfing MMORPG.com. If they were that dedicated to gaming, they'd dedicate more of their income to upgrading their hardware.
1. That's what makes me questioning the ranking.
2. both Anarchy online and Ultima Online are ranked higher, one is cheaper than WoW, and the other is for free, and they can both run on cheaper machines, or at least same quality machines.
And also, alot of the games have adjustable video settings, so you could play all of them on a laptop, but you'd get really bad visuals though, but still playable
EVE...now there's a game that actually requires you to think.
But really it doesn't make sense, it's got 10 mill subs, millions more than any other game, and it's ranked at some 20th or so?
There is a very anit-WOW community here,so its not gonna get a high rating here.
I have played wow for over 2+1/2 years now,
yes it can have a good community in the game
the content was ok when leveling.
the grouping and raiding used to be fun.
but when you get to the max level the amount of content is quite disappointing and boring.
solo play is basically doing the daily quests day in day out
PvP well is PvP - can be fun or not depends :P
and raiding is slightly strict in most places since their expansion.
but with the lack of content not many people will rate it as good now as it used to be as it's the same thing all over again..
i guessing then the expansion comes out the rating will go up with the new features they are going to implement in the game
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Two reasons:
1. The vast majority of people who like WoW are not likely to frequent a site like this -- this site is mostly frequented by malcontents (myself included) looking for something different.
2. WoW is actually cheaper, in a sense, based on its easy hardware requirements. Again, the majority of people that are playing WoW simply because they can play it on their crappy computers are not likely to be so into computer games that they would spend even more time surfing MMORPG.com. If they were that dedicated to gaming, they'd dedicate more of their income to upgrading their hardware.
1. That's what makes me questioning the ranking.
2. both Anarchy online and Ultima Online are ranked higher, one is cheaper than WoW, and the other is for free, and they can both run on cheaper machines, or at least same quality machines.
And also, alot of the games have adjustable video settings, so you could play all of them on a laptop, but you'd get really bad visuals though, but still playable
Its because Ultima Online was a breakthrough in the genre. It was the first massively successful MMO, and had such a unique, innovative, and ahead of its time feature list, that no game has come out since to match it. Darkfall is the closest, but its not out yet. Anarchy Online.. probably because it was another of the pioneer MMOs.
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Because there are ~20 games that are better than WoW?
Because this is a site frequented by people who play MMO's a lot.
We are a bit more discriminate in our taste and rankings. We expect something different from a game in what we consider our favorite genre.
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because WoW sucks and only morons play it ... and they probably can't figure out how to spell MMORPG to get to this site.
A lot of ppl hate wow. The rating is user vote based.
Last time i checked Lotro was "number one". Wow has subs but crappy graphics by today's standard. Also leveling is ridiculously easy 1-60. These are just 2 things that won't appeal to everyone.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese?
-Yes.
-...
In my opinion actualy WoW is the best MMO out there... and I got bored of the game at lvl 40...
says more aobut MMOs than it says about WoW...
Blizzard made the perfect mainstream MMO at the perfect time and now, no one will come close to what they have done...
that why people hate it.. and thats why it doesnt have high rating...
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Yeah this board has a very different crowd then other MMO message boards. As said most of the people are looking for something new.
As for WoW I must admit I switched over to WoW looking for something easier then EQ at the time it came out and I had some fun playing it. Unfortunately I never had the same memories as from EQ or even UO as there was never any moments of frustration. I find that without frustration the reward you get is pretty meaningless. The rewards remember the most are the ones where you had a lot of difficulty getting what you wanted and in the end all you will take with you are those memories.
McDonalds is the biggest restaurant chain in the world (more thank likely) I don't see them winning too many culinary awards for fine cuisine.
You can get someone to buy a dog turd if you wrap it correctly.
Wow is by far the hard thing to enjoy
But really it doesn't make sense, it's got 10 mill subs, millions more than any other game, and it's ranked at some 20th or so?
Cause its a commercial game. Britney Spears surely has more fallowers, but is her music really better then that of "The Doors" or I dunno "Metallica"?
Bad example though because they both sells more then Britney world wide :P
I prefer to compare WoW to junk food such as McDonald, vs another game that makes you use your brain called "whatever fine cuisine restaurant". They are both popular for the same reasons: They are accessible. (One for the price, the other for the incredibly dumb down gameplay)
Now if you would log on a gastronomy website, it's pretty obvious that McDonald wouldn't be in the top 1000 best restaurant in the world for obvious reasons. Like it or not, people on MMORPG.com has more gaming culture then your average WoW numb nuts.
Pretty simple now to understand why WoW as 10 millions subscriber. It must be the same percentile of people eating McDo 3 times a week or more.
Creativity : The ability to transcend traditional ideas, rules, patterns, relationships, or the like, and to create meaningful new ideas, forms, methods or interpretations; using originality, progressiveness, or imagination.
But really it doesn't make sense, it's got 10 mill subs, millions more than any other game, and it's ranked at some 20th or so?
Cause its a commercial game. Britney Spears surely has more fallowers, but is her music really better then that of "The Doors" or I dunno "Metallica"?
Bad example though because they both sells more then Britney world wide :P
I prefer to compare WoW to junk food such as McDonald, vs another game that makes you use your brain called "whatever fine cuisine restaurant". They are both popular for the same reasons: They are accessible. (One for the price, the other for the incredibly dumb down gameplay)
Now if you would log on a gastronomy website, it's pretty obvious that McDonald wouldn't be in the top 1000 best restaurant in the world for obvious reasons. Like it or not, people on MMORPG.com has more gaming culture then your average WoW numb nuts.
Pretty simple now to understand why WoW as 10 millions subscriber. It must be the same percentile of people eating McDo 3 times a week or more.
And the game that makes you use your brain would be....?
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it isn't number 1 because this is mainly the "mmo" community not the "WoW" community and many ppl here hates WoW, and since the ratings are player-based, of course WoW won't get a high ranking on this site
its rly funny to see some ppl rly comparing wow with mcdonalds .... AS if there was another mmorpg that has quality ! for god sake we , if wow was mcdonald than that means eq or vanguard r entrocote steak with wine from bordeaux ... LOL . stop kiddin ur self ppl . wow toke every that wasnt good enough to be popular and made it good and popular ..
btw !!! before u flame me lol i stopped playing wow since 2 years and more even and i played most of the mmorpgs till i got bored and didnt find something i like to play . and im not a baby here lol .
if u dont like wow , fair enough but PLEASE Qstop comparing it with stupid examples .
WoW is like a car, it will crash
I would guess check the average age of the posters here, Since I assume wows target audience is younger than the posters here.
Im sure hello kitty mmo is great, but you dont see it here do ya?
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Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
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Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
And AoC is like...a concept car
you know eventually it gets very tiring dealing with people who are close minded....yes WoW did bring well I can't "officially" judge of course, but I would say around 60% of the mmorpg players into the mix. sadly most of the people who were brought in through WoW were idiots...being children or adults it doesn't matter it only matters that they're idiots. If you think WoW is the only great MMO out there your incredibly close minded and have absolutely no taste. your the kind of people that don't set the trends, but decide to go along with them because everyone else does. really I could go on forever about how wrong most of the people are who have decided to grant themselves the title of fanboy for WoW( though they seem more like those annoying ass mormons who try to push their beliefs on other people and are completely ignorant of anything else other than what they decide is right), BUT I'm tired of it so eh just slap yourselves while I go do something worthy of my time.
Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
Nothing wrong with Vanguard... logic fails.
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Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
And AoC is like...a concept car
I was thinking that would be more like Darkfall, i.e. a concept car that will never be sold.
To me, AoC is more like a electric car--lots of unrealized potential and frequent refueling (loading).
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Here's another stupid example:
WoW is like a brand new Honda Civic -- simple, cheap, but reliable
SWG and Vanguard are like Ferraris........with broken windows, flat tires, and no gas.
And AoC is like...a concept car
I was thinking that would be more like Darkfall, i.e. a concept car that will never be sold.
To me, AoC is more like a electric car--lots of unrealized potential and frequent refueling (loading).
Hate to tell you, but since the publisher news, its not popular to bash Darkfall these days, considering, you know... it actually exists.
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