If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
WOW players have no idea what GENRE the game is. They think its counter-strike with spells. They have no idea what else is out there. The majority really have NO idea!
Originally posted by blondeh Originally posted by Inzra If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out! E-sport kids hang out elsewhere. I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this. Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix" WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!" Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?" WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..." Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
Another reason would be.... WOW players have no idea what GENRE the game is. They think its counter-strike with spells. They have no idea what else is out there. The majority really have NO idea!
Jeesh, there's 12 million players, I'm sure most of them know they are playing an MMO.
It's obvious you don't like WoW, but seriously, it's not a bad game that some newbee company made, it's a huge game world with an incredible amount of servers running and takes a great deal of work.
If you think you can make a better game be my guest, we'll see how that works out for you won't we.
Another reason would be.... WOW players have no idea what GENRE the game is. They think its counter-strike with spells. They have no idea what else is out there. The majority really have NO idea!
Jeesh, there's 12 million players, I'm sure most of them know they are playing an MMO.
It's obvious you don't like WoW, but seriously, it's not a bad game that some newbee company made, it's a huge game world with an incredible amount of servers running and takes a great deal of work.
If you think you can make a better game be my guest, we'll see how that works out for you won't we.
I liked WOW, played it a long time... and then quited it when I realized that the game is empty... All you actualy do- is geting bether gear... and @ the moment u get best gear... Guess what- It sucks... New tier/set appear...
And about 12 milions of WoW players, its not 12 its 10 mill... (usualy i dont care about numbers - but hey 2 mill of players is bigg "number" mistake)
edit: And about creating new game... give me few millions $$ ... and you will see
Actually it is 10.7 million, but who am I to correct you correcting someone else.
Serious though, how long did you play WoW before you finally figured out "it sucks". Did the game really suck or did you just get burned out after staying past the time you enjoyed a game?
Another reason would be.... WOW players have no idea what GENRE the game is. They think its counter-strike with spells. They have no idea what else is out there. The majority really have NO idea!
Jeesh, there's 12 million players, I'm sure most of them know they are playing an MMO.
It's obvious you don't like WoW, but seriously, it's not a bad game that some newbee company made, it's a huge game world with an incredible amount of servers running and takes a great deal of work.
If you think you can make a better game be my guest, we'll see how that works out for you won't we.
Like somone else said " I dont need to know how to make a better game then you, I just need to know where the cancel button is".
I never said I hated WoW. I just dont think its the greatest ever made. Its a single player game with other people around you. You can happily get to 70 and gear up without the need of anyone else. Hell talking to people in WoW is not required.
WoW can satisfy me for a month at most. I play it now and then if m really really bored with other games I'm playing. Just because "enter random numer here with 6 zeros in " play it, doesnt mean its the best. Look at Mcdonalds. Not the best food in the world but people buy it
If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
i'm surprised it's in the top 20 games. it's an incredibly boring game.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
Originally posted by blondeh Originally posted by Bane82
Originally posted by blondeh
Originally posted by Inzra
If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out! E-sport kids hang out elsewhere. I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this. Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix" WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!" Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?" WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..." Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game. Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
Read your own damn quote over and over again, and maybe you'll understand why I think it makes you look like an elitest snob (A.K.A someone who usually thinks themselves better than everyone else for no other reason other than they're deluded, arrogant and closed minded). You didn't hurt my feelings, I love calling people out on their BS.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
You talked to one person who thought WoW was better than original SWG and played some single player games. Then you try to say that is representative of nearly 11 million people. Only "real" mmo players... sheesh get over yourself.
You didn't post an opinion, you posted a gross generalization.
Originally posted by Daffid011 Originally posted by blondeh Originally posted by Bane82
Originally posted by blondeh
Originally posted by Inzra
If WoW is the biggest MMO out there, shouldn't it get higher ranking?... makes me question the entire list... kinda unfair for games that perhaps should have been higher ranked
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out! E-sport kids hang out elsewhere. I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this. Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix" WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!" Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?" WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..." Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game. Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
You talked to one person who thought WoW was better than original SWG and played some single player games. Then you try to say that is representative of nearly 11 million people. Only "real" mmo players... sheesh get over yourself.
You didn't post an opinion, you posted a gross generalization.
Yep, completely agree, people like this poster just don't happen to like being called on their BS. They like to keep believing that somehow they are "special" because they were there at the beginning, the "golden age" of MMO's. It was a good thing I didn't turn out that way, I was there too, but in no way do I try to paint myself as somehow being the "know it all" of MMO's let alone make the kind of gross assumptions people like this poster make.
no one likes games that force you to raid for hours on end, in order to MAYBE get one item... then to do that same dungeon, in the same exact way, another 40-100 times... then rinse/repeat for the next dungeon.
You mean, only 10million people like it.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
Actually it is 10.7 million, but who am I to correct you correcting someone else.
Serious though, how long did you play WoW before you finally figured out "it sucks". Did the game really suck or did you just get burned out after staying past the time you enjoyed a game?
I played it a year, and shortly after TBC- I /quit...
I enjoyed it for some time... I quited when I didnt... Simply I dont want to play any game, not even WoW- for half year or more just to get nice gear (set) -over and over again... Its sad, but thats te point of wow...
You play hard and get best items... And when u get it... They sucks - hard... U "must" raid or play PvP min. 5-6h / day...
In the old days I realy enjoyed WoW... Done some hard PvP - and I was Marshal with my pally... Then, killing in pvp didnt amuse me anymore... I played PvE then... I entered great guild on my server, and got T1 and few T2 items... Then it came Naxramas (we didnt played it)... Now every day u get new set, and old one sucks hard... and thats sucks... Simply i dont have any time for that anymore... I work now, I have only 3 exams left to graduate college, I have GF that I will marry (maybie), I have friends outside of virtual world... and I want to play the game that I enjoy...
Quantity some time sux too... i preffer quality... Quality that I dont find any more in WoW (some one else might) ...
Actually it is 10.7 million, but who am I to correct you correcting someone else.
Serious though, how long did you play WoW before you finally figured out "it sucks". Did the game really suck or did you just get burned out after staying past the time you enjoyed a game?
I played it a year, and shortly after TBC- I /quit...
I enjoyed it for some time... I quited when I didnt... Simply I dont want to play any game, not even WoW- for half year or more just to get nice gear (set) -over and over again... Its sad, but thats te point of wow...
You play hard and get best items... And when u get it... They sucks - hard... U "must" raid or play PvP min. 5-6h / day...
In the old days I realy enjoyed WoW... Done some hard PvP - and I was Marshal with my pally... Then, killing in pvp didnt amuse me anymore... I played PvE then... I entered great guild on my server, and got T1 and few T2 items... Then it came Naxramas (we didnt played it)... Now every day u get new set, and old one sucks hard... and thats sucks... Simply i dont have any time for that anymore... I work now, I have only 3 exams left to graduate college, I have GF that I will marry (maybie), I have friends outside of virtual world... and I want to play the game that I enjoy...
Quantity some time sux too... i preffer quality... Quality that I dont find any more in WoW (some one else might) ...
GL HF
You do not HAVE to raid 5-6 hour a day to do anything. You can play as much or as little as you like and still advance your character. If you feel that you simply MUST have the absolute best items that are available as soon as they come out and if you don't then your items suck, well that is a rather bleak outlook if you ask me. I'm not trying to pick on you honestly, but what you describe is often called purple fever.
As for not wanting to play a game for half a year to keep getting new sets of gear I am afraid you might have trouble finding a fantasy MMO that doesn't revolve around that model of gameplay. If the endgame isn't raiding based odds are it is PvP in nature. It sounds like you just might not like what most MMOs offer as an endgame. At least WoW has lots more non-raid avenues for end game advancement than most MMOs I can think of.
The reason people here bash it is because it's popular. Elitist don't like to be associated with anything popular. It destroys their street credibility. Let's use a Metallica. They always had big underground following. As soon as Metallica started selling as many records as Britney Spears, a lot of people bashed them and claimed they hated them. The music was watered down and simple compared to their first three albums. It wasn't so much that it was bad music as it was Metallica selling out in the eyes of their earlier fans. I was one of them. I am claiming no innocence. It's human nature.
I'm not a WoW fanboi. I tried it and it didn't hold my interest for very long. I am not even a Blizzard fan. The only game they made that I thought was ok was Lost Vikings. I didn't like WC, SC or Diablo. All 3 of those games were watered down versions of better games in my eyes. But just because I don't like them doesn't make them bad games.
The truth is the majority of people in the world like simple and clean. It's easier to keep someones attention. That's why the Beatles have sold millions of records. That's why Britney Spears can sell more records than a band like Dragonforce. That's why a band like AC/DC sells more than Joe Satriani. They play three chords over a simple blues beat. it's simple and people can hum along. Most people like crap they can hum to, not chaos. Or as Green Jello used to say: The Moral of the story is bands can easily amuse the audience with a stupid puppet show.
In gaming terms..That's why Blizzard sells millions of every game they make. That's why WoW is more popular than EQ2 or Vanguard or another of their closest "competitors." That's why Sony and Lucas Arts changed SWG so drastically (although it backfired on them.) Shame on them!
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this disproves the crakcpot theory some posters have hear that popularity = quality.
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Yeah I go into McDonalds every once in awhile to prove to myself over again how bad it is.
For gods sake stop the references to McDonalds.
It was lame the first time, it's still lame the second time.
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
I remember having a conv with an EQ player, and it sorta went like this:
paladin: "HIYA!, I'm back!"
Me: "Hello..welcome back then."
paladin: "I'm sorry I was afk cause the baby was screaming."
Me: "Is she ok?"
paladin: "Yeah, I put her in her room and locked it."
Me: "..Cool."
paladin: "Yeah, sure is, I can hardly hear the screaming now."
Me: "eh..cool"
paladin: "yeah"
Another reason would be....
WOW players have no idea what GENRE the game is. They think its counter-strike with spells. They have no idea what else is out there. The majority really have NO idea!
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
Quality over quantity?
Jeesh, there's 12 million players, I'm sure most of them know they are playing an MMO.
It's obvious you don't like WoW, but seriously, it's not a bad game that some newbee company made, it's a huge game world with an incredible amount of servers running and takes a great deal of work.
If you think you can make a better game be my guest, we'll see how that works out for you won't we.
Jeesh, there's 12 million players, I'm sure most of them know they are playing an MMO.
It's obvious you don't like WoW, but seriously, it's not a bad game that some newbee company made, it's a huge game world with an incredible amount of servers running and takes a great deal of work.
If you think you can make a better game be my guest, we'll see how that works out for you won't we.
I liked WOW, played it a long time... and then quited it when I realized that the game is empty... All you actualy do- is geting bether gear... and @ the moment u get best gear... Guess what- It sucks... New tier/set appear...
And about 12 milions of WoW players, its not 12 its 10 mill... (usualy i dont care about numbers - but hey 2 mill of players is bigg "number" mistake)
edit: And about creating new game... give me few millions $$ ... and you will see
Actually it is 10.7 million, but who am I to correct you correcting someone else.
Serious though, how long did you play WoW before you finally figured out "it sucks". Did the game really suck or did you just get burned out after staying past the time you enjoyed a game?
Jeesh, there's 12 million players, I'm sure most of them know they are playing an MMO.
It's obvious you don't like WoW, but seriously, it's not a bad game that some newbee company made, it's a huge game world with an incredible amount of servers running and takes a great deal of work.
If you think you can make a better game be my guest, we'll see how that works out for you won't we.
Like somone else said " I dont need to know how to make a better game then you, I just need to know where the cancel button is".
I never said I hated WoW. I just dont think its the greatest ever made. Its a single player game with other people around you. You can happily get to 70 and gear up without the need of anyone else. Hell talking to people in WoW is not required.
WoW can satisfy me for a month at most. I play it now and then if m really really bored with other games I'm playing. Just because "enter random numer here with 6 zeros in " play it, doesnt mean its the best. Look at Mcdonalds. Not the best food in the world but people buy it
i'm surprised it's in the top 20 games. it's an incredibly boring game.
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Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
Read your own damn quote over and over again, and maybe you'll understand why I think it makes you look like an elitest snob (A.K.A someone who usually thinks themselves better than everyone else for no other reason other than they're deluded, arrogant and closed minded). You didn't hurt my feelings, I love calling people out on their BS.
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
You talked to one person who thought WoW was better than original SWG and played some single player games. Then you try to say that is representative of nearly 11 million people. Only "real" mmo players... sheesh get over yourself.
You didn't post an opinion, you posted a gross generalization.
Cuz this is where the real mmo players hang out!
E-sport kids hang out elsewhere.
I remember having a conversation with a WoW player that went something like this.
Me - "I really thought SWG pre-cu was the best made mmo ever. To me WoW is ok for a month just like Mcdonalds is ok for a quick fix"
WOWPLAYER - "LOL how can you say that? WoW is the best MMO eva!"
Me - "What other MMO's have you played before?"
WOWPLAYER - " errr... Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Counter Strike..."
Thats a true story.
Oh Yay! yet ANOTHER elitest snob who's delusion and ego has made their heads grow so damn big they actually think they are THE authority on MMO's lol! Take a reality pill pal, stereotyping all WoW players the way you just did only shows your arrogance and your ignorance, oh, and so you know, I've played a number of MMO's myself, all the way back to UO (UO, EQ, EQ2, CoH/CoV, SWG, DnD, LOTRO, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, GW and a few that escape me at the moment), and sorry, but a lot of them (the ones that I played anyway) are crap now. The only one that HAD potential was SWG during the Pre CU, but even then, it still didn't compare, why? Because SOE didn't bother to do their jobs and fix the damn game.
Oh, FYI, you're not the authority on MMO's, so take a reality pill, and you making stupid generalizations about an MMO's demographics only shows how ignorant/intolerant you are.
I never said I was the authority on mmos! I just posted my opinion. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
You talked to one person who thought WoW was better than original SWG and played some single player games. Then you try to say that is representative of nearly 11 million people. Only "real" mmo players... sheesh get over yourself.
You didn't post an opinion, you posted a gross generalization.
Yep, completely agree, people like this poster just don't happen to like being called on their BS. They like to keep believing that somehow they are "special" because they were there at the beginning, the "golden age" of MMO's. It was a good thing I didn't turn out that way, I was there too, but in no way do I try to paint myself as somehow being the "know it all" of MMO's let alone make the kind of gross assumptions people like this poster make.
i did didnt I..
Oh well the world is full of sterotypes. You've even stereotyped me
I dont care that your calling me out or whatever. I have an opinion and my beliefs. I dont expect everyone or anyone to follow suit.
Its the internet. Freedom of speech at its best. Unless you post on funcom or SOE boards....
I'm glad you found a friend Bane82. I'm really happy for you.
You mean, only 10million people like it.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
I played it a year, and shortly after TBC- I /quit...
I enjoyed it for some time... I quited when I didnt... Simply I dont want to play any game, not even WoW- for half year or more just to get nice gear (set) -over and over again... Its sad, but thats te point of wow...
You play hard and get best items... And when u get it... They sucks - hard... U "must" raid or play PvP min. 5-6h / day...
In the old days I realy enjoyed WoW... Done some hard PvP - and I was Marshal with my pally... Then, killing in pvp didnt amuse me anymore... I played PvE then... I entered great guild on my server, and got T1 and few T2 items... Then it came Naxramas (we didnt played it)... Now every day u get new set, and old one sucks hard... and thats sucks... Simply i dont have any time for that anymore... I work now, I have only 3 exams left to graduate college, I have GF that I will marry (maybie), I have friends outside of virtual world... and I want to play the game that I enjoy...
Quantity some time sux too... i preffer quality... Quality that I dont find any more in WoW (some one else might) ...
GL HF
10.7 million flies cant be wrong : eat shit.
I played it a year, and shortly after TBC- I /quit...
I enjoyed it for some time... I quited when I didnt... Simply I dont want to play any game, not even WoW- for half year or more just to get nice gear (set) -over and over again... Its sad, but thats te point of wow...
You play hard and get best items... And when u get it... They sucks - hard... U "must" raid or play PvP min. 5-6h / day...
In the old days I realy enjoyed WoW... Done some hard PvP - and I was Marshal with my pally... Then, killing in pvp didnt amuse me anymore... I played PvE then... I entered great guild on my server, and got T1 and few T2 items... Then it came Naxramas (we didnt played it)... Now every day u get new set, and old one sucks hard... and thats sucks... Simply i dont have any time for that anymore... I work now, I have only 3 exams left to graduate college, I have GF that I will marry (maybie), I have friends outside of virtual world... and I want to play the game that I enjoy...
Quantity some time sux too... i preffer quality... Quality that I dont find any more in WoW (some one else might) ...
GL HF
You do not HAVE to raid 5-6 hour a day to do anything. You can play as much or as little as you like and still advance your character. If you feel that you simply MUST have the absolute best items that are available as soon as they come out and if you don't then your items suck, well that is a rather bleak outlook if you ask me. I'm not trying to pick on you honestly, but what you describe is often called purple fever.
As for not wanting to play a game for half a year to keep getting new sets of gear I am afraid you might have trouble finding a fantasy MMO that doesn't revolve around that model of gameplay. If the endgame isn't raiding based odds are it is PvP in nature. It sounds like you just might not like what most MMOs offer as an endgame. At least WoW has lots more non-raid avenues for end game advancement than most MMOs I can think of.
Never trust the rankings on this site.
The reason people here bash it is because it's popular. Elitist don't like to be associated with anything popular. It destroys their street credibility. Let's use a Metallica. They always had big underground following. As soon as Metallica started selling as many records as Britney Spears, a lot of people bashed them and claimed they hated them. The music was watered down and simple compared to their first three albums. It wasn't so much that it was bad music as it was Metallica selling out in the eyes of their earlier fans. I was one of them. I am claiming no innocence. It's human nature.
I'm not a WoW fanboi. I tried it and it didn't hold my interest for very long. I am not even a Blizzard fan. The only game they made that I thought was ok was Lost Vikings. I didn't like WC, SC or Diablo. All 3 of those games were watered down versions of better games in my eyes. But just because I don't like them doesn't make them bad games.
The truth is the majority of people in the world like simple and clean. It's easier to keep someones attention. That's why the Beatles have sold millions of records. That's why Britney Spears can sell more records than a band like Dragonforce. That's why a band like AC/DC sells more than Joe Satriani. They play three chords over a simple blues beat. it's simple and people can hum along. Most people like crap they can hum to, not chaos. Or as Green Jello used to say: The Moral of the story is bands can easily amuse the audience with a stupid puppet show.
In gaming terms..That's why Blizzard sells millions of every game they make. That's why WoW is more popular than EQ2 or Vanguard or another of their closest "competitors." That's why Sony and Lucas Arts changed SWG so drastically (although it backfired on them.) Shame on them!
Wrong! you stereotyped YOURSELF!