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You need to comment on the screenshot Solareus posted.
Funny, how the only posts you notice and read are the ones making 'excuses'..
You want to be proved wrong on what? Your opinion? Look, I'm very much an adult, and don't mind WAR's graphics at all. It's not an "adult" thing, it's a personal thing.
If you don't like the graphics how do you expect us to prove the opposite?
You need to comment on the screenshot Solareus posted.
Funny, how the only posts you notice and read are the ones making 'excuses'..
I noticed the post and the screenshots did nothing for me. I respect what he had to say and it makes sense. I personally don't like the look of the game. That doesn't mean I won't like the game itself.
The game sounds fun but it looks so much like WoW (very cartoony) that its hard for me to take seriously.
If you have a valid point I'd love to see it. The truth is animation makes a huge difference too. Thats why i made sure to tell people I am judging by screenshots so that they can give me an honest opinion.
Hey, I might be wrong...thats the way things go..tell me what you think. That is a big reason why the forums are here.
MMOs, serious business. C/D?
The graphics are pretty cartoonish imo, I would prefer much more realistic, but what can ya do? Not play it I guess.
Dude this is the Warhammer not EQ or WOW or anything else. Learn about the game and see what it is based on first then you will see it looks as it is suppose to. Check out the game it is a representation of and they've done a hell of a job.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp?_requestid=1458
Maybe I will surprise you, but WAR has the MOST realistic character graphic we've ever seen. Don't belive me? Ok, look like orc looks in rl:
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/03_2008/CE_mini_b.jpg - see? WAR is based on TT, or rl figurines - now you know, that WAR char graphics is ultrarealistic
I rather like WoW graphics ;(
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
I actually like the art style.
Most MMO's that use a stylized theme tend to last longer.
Look at WoW the world looks awesome and the avatars fit it perfectly.
Not many people that play WoW complain about its graphics.
Right now im playing AO a terrible looking game due to being seven years old, the game play is great so im enjoying myself.
It isnt always about graphics, im sure once u try WAR it will take you 30 minutes to get used to it.
Pick the Empire(humans) if u want a realistic looking avatars and landscape.
PLaying: EvE, Ryzom
Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
Cartoons? Lol. This game looks like Lineage 2 if anything. It looks pretty "realistic" in terms of fantasy RPG's to my eyes. I guess some people just see things differently. But then again, some people get off to eating feces. I'm guessing you're one of those people. I'll be playing WAR and I guess you'll be playing Hello Kitty Online.
Graphics and art direction are two very different things.
WoW did go with cartoony art direction and probably with a very good reason. It does not get old so quickly. Just check old Sam & Max games and they still look nice due to art direction. Graphics of course are crap.
Then you have games that push for more realistic art direction like Crysis or Call of Duty, both focus heavily also on graphics side. Making sure they use the latest technology available from video cards. Those graphics go old rather quick because technology is pushing forward so quickly. Remember original Doom or Quake? They looked very good at the time.
I personally would hope game companies would use the latest graphics available, as I try to keep my video card(s) up to date, but as we saw with Age of Conan people still expect the game run with full setting with 3-4 year old machines. MMO crowd seem rather slow to adopt new technology.
Art direction is where the game can be made look good. I do not mind whether the direction is towards realism or cartoon as long as it is done right and with care. The end result depend heavily on how talented people you have. Just like with comics, animations or movies. In games I look for immersion, so that the game would not look like it was computer designed. Many MMOs with their terrain and cities, and even with character models look like they were designed by an engineer rather than an artist.
To be honest, WAR does not amaze me with its graphics engine which seems rather old tech, nor does it impress me with art direction. And you really can't wash the latter off by saying that it based on Game Workshops IP because I sell their products on daily basis and there is tons of material that has very nice art...which actually makes the world come to live. I have not seen this is any of the screenshots or videos. You could probably change the character models slightly and remove the references to Warhammer from in-game lore and after that you could call the game what ever you like, DAoC 2 perhaps since so many comparisons to the original has been made?
All that said. it is true that even Warhammer has many different art directions that have evolved over the past 25 years. The world, in both gamebooks and novels, is portrayed as very dark and gloomy with dark humor. When they started markting it to North America they actually changed the direction a bit, but thankfully now seem to be back towards original direction.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Sorry I just had to laugh at the title of this thread, "too old to watch cartoons".
I'm pushing forty and I still watch cartoons, also the fact of the matter is it-is-a-game, game are for kids right?
Forgive me for saying this but regardless of the graphical nature of games like war, wow, eq, lotr and the others there is some pretty gritty content in them.
I wouldn't exactly say that corpses hanging from tree's is something you would see in your average saturday morning animé (well it was pretty scary when i was a kid anyways, I guess kids don't get scared so easy these days).
If you want adult themed/look maybe wait for something like a mass effect online game.
If your too old for Cartoons, then why are you playing video games?
Video games and Cartoons will ALWAYS look and have similar artistic style because they are inherently drawn and designed in the same way...
and besides, if my gran still watches cartoons and loves playing Sonic the Hedgehog still, then no, your never too old for either cartoons or video games
You beat the thread, congrats.
ok its not a cartoon a orc is a mythical creature its not in anyway like a human its like saying im tired of dragons all they are giant birds that breath fire orc is not a cartoon a damn dragon is not a bird that breathes fire and for a MMO to have graphics like COD4 would be amazing to pull of and nobody is to old for cartoons and not alot of old people play video games :P but some of them do but imagine most people that are going to play warhammer online are going to be atleast -18 but there are adults that will play this game
kill the clowns O.o the damn clowns
Warhammer orcs are a cartoon. They look very childish and funny. Completely oposite as what an orc should look. It's ok as a figure in a table, makes you chuckle, but in an MMO looks ridiculous, in my oppinion. No matter how much armor you put on them.
If you are too old for cartoons then you are too old for video games.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
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kill the clowns O.o the damn clowns
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about the OP's post and attitude reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7jFEOKS26c
Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence.
Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.
10/10 on the
thread. The OP posted his opinion and is asking people to change his opinion. Maybe its just me, but if I find the art style of something I dont like then I dont like it regardless of what anyone says. Yet so many of us bit and tried to either A) force our opinion on him or 
use the Lore to explain to him why the art style is the way it is. And then when it was plain to see he was just trolling we continued to argue with him soooo great job OP 10/10, if its your opinion nothing we say can change that and that is why this is a great troll thread.
The OP hates the greenskins, that's okay. Those look the most..."cartoony" as you say, i.e. huge, muscular, and big headed. But that's how they're supposed to look. If you ever get a chance to play Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War or the expansions, you'll see they look like that in there too - except they're ripping off heads and gutting humans left and right, so the "cartoony" feel is kind of out the window.
Admittedly if WAR was M rated and they had as much gore as WH40K then people would stop saying it's cartoony, but it's not like it doesn't have any blood. The art style might be cartoony for you but the graphics are not (WoW = cartoony because everything seems...bulgy. The buildings are bulgy, some of the characters are bulgy, trees, rocks, machines...very bulgy, like a cartoon. WAR is more realistic.)
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Hey OP. Don't play. The game will be FAR better without you.
"Cartoony" does not mean inferior graphics, so it's not a "gameplay vs graphics" matter as some people here are trying to make it out to be. This is pretty much the same mentality that assumes the more lifelike a painting is, the higher quality or the more sophisticated it is - of course if you're even a little bit knowledgeable about visual arts or art history in general, you'll know this is not the case.
Also, the stylized artwork you call "cartoony" is in no way children-only. You'll find many 40+ year-old people who prefer such graphics in games, especially those who have a discerning eye for the "Uncanny Valley" - this is where a visual representation of a human being is neither realistic nor stylized enough to feel natural, thus ending up looking "creepy" instead of nice or convincing.
Look at this cartoon elf:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1491/60185188lm6.jpg
I am sure, it's too cartoon for you.
On my first note, if, at some point in your life you forget and can not understand why you enjoyed something when you were younger, or if you begin to dislike the things you enjoyed as a kid... then you are to be pitied. All that means is that you will continue to cut pieces of yourself away until you die. Alone, broken and fragmented, and unable to see the "Whole" your life was meant to be. You enjoyed cartoons at one point, try to maintain and re-capture that.
Now, secondly, devs continue with this cartoony look because at this point in time we do not have the hardware or technology to reproduce reality in a virtual world. We can mimick it, but the next step for graphics cards is to have simulated photons, rather than just shadows and shading. How does light look when passed through a thin piece of blood soaked fabric? What if we dye some of that fabric cyan, can we get the light to work as it should in real life when it passes through?
With Valve's next game coming out, if I remember the reports correctly, we should get to see what happens when a solid mass impacts the earth at varying heights. Based on weight, shape, and other real life qualities, we will begin to see differing crater sizes and impact damage. this is still far from "real" since this is more for objects that are not living.... we want to see real live people. Things like what skin does when breathing and discolored.
Almost there but not quite... then you need to try to pass this onto hundreds->thousands of people who can run it on machines that are not required to keep "up-to-date".
The cartoony look helps alleviate potential problems until our PC-technology is up to where it needs to be to FULLY simulate real life.
Even then, we will still see cartoons because we all hold a special place in our heart for them.