After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
Aight, peace out bro. Thanks for warning me about the impending disaster!
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Awsome...another troll bowing out of the arguement. Things are looking up!
Seriously this forum has gotten so much better since the video came out. There is still some nonsense drama, but for the most part the threads have good discussion and newcomers to DF asking questions which the community is giving objective answers to.
(and before the nit train comes into the station, yea pinkcat isnt being objective, he pretty much copy pastes the exact same thing he said above into every post of his on this forum and offers nothing new, and is basically just trolling)
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
see the other thread about graphics. comparing it to eq1 just confirms you as a troll. we had a good discussion about its graphics in another thread with *gasp* examples and support and when shown comparisons between DF and EQ, even the people who originally stated DF was like EQ admitted that yea it was a pretty false statement and that DF was way better.
Hey we will see you in game, or at least here being bitter when the game releases.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
QQ more brotha. Don't forget to shut the door on the way out.
After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
QQ more brotha. Don't forget to shut the door on the way out.
Hah hah, are we finally getting an actual darkfall forum here again? This is amazing. We just had two trolls who probably watched the video on youtube, have never looked at screenshots and whose main complaints were about graphics, peace the fuck out. I'm happy. Here's to more constructive discussion.
After seeing the video it only confirmed my thoughts of the game being poorly designed and made them a reality. The gameplay looks wretched, the graphics are lamer, and the game brings nothing new to the table. I personally don't want to talk about lolfall again this will be my final message in this community.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
QQ more brotha. Don't forget to shut the door on the way out.
Hah hah, are we finally getting an actual darkfall forum here again? This is amazing. We just had two trolls who probably watched the video on youtube, have never looked at screenshots and whose main complaints were about graphics, peace the fuck out. I'm happy. Here's to more constructive discussion.
Yup the first couple of days after the video were filled with bitterness from the vapor trolls and they attacked random things. At this point they have ultimately been proven wrong and have just given up, except for a few who take it personally.
That plus some increased moderation in the forum has given us a much better environment here that has had a lot of good discussion lately.
Yup the first couple of days after the video were filled with bitterness from the vapor trolls and they attacked random things. Yeah, but luckily the fanbois acted maturely, just like they always do. Get off your high horse, you're no better than the haters. At this point they have ultimately been proven wrong and have just given up, except for a few who take it personally. Yeah, cause we just know the DF fans don't take anything personally Get off your high horse, you're no better than the trolls. That plus some increased moderation in the forum has given us a much better environment here that has had a lot of good discussion lately. This is true. You make it sound like trolls are evil, and any fan is a saint. Rediculous.
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Huge influx of once hurt and dejected fans who are now triumphant and euphoric reclaiming this forum for their own.
Declarations of final victory and vindication by said fans and long term supporters over the evil “vapor troll haters” before they have even played the game yet.
Impressive display of hubris and ecstatic optimism and expectation released after being pent up over 7+ years of disappointment and frustration.
All because we finally got a video lasting more then a couple of minutes after 7+ years of waiting.
After we waited 3 months for it to be produced.
That was good, but not that good, that unfortunately contained a lot of what we have already been shown in the last video, just more and longer versions of it.
All the while apparently being oblivious to the glaring fact theirs actually only 3 months left to publicly beta test and launch Darkfall , amongst many other things.
And we still know very little to nothing definitive about so very many aspects concerning Darkfall, including even many things that where shown, some only very briefly, in the apparently “comprehensive” video itself.
This is certainly going to be entertaining.
My impression is that many of the vapor troll haters, myself included have simply decided trying to reason with an excited mob under the present circumstances is futile, so they have decided to mingle with the crowd and enjoy the ride.
Unfortunately this is just history repeating itself, as it does with every game that’s hyped pre launch by people who don’t know any better and who have not played the game yet, the result is generally predictable, but it does not make the process any less gratifying to observe.
Or of course this could all just be another non event, its not like there’s not been a precedent for it before, at least several times over the years, but I doubt it this time, I think this really is finally it.
Surely you mean when DF is released and its everything the developers and community have said it would be for the last 7+ years?.
Because I’ve never categorically stated Darkfall will never release, so in the event that it does I will never need to “eat my words” concerning that particular issue.
The actual words that I’m interested in are the ones that have been spoken about what Darkfall will definitely be when its released by the developers and the supporters over the last 7+ years.
And whether or not they will be eating them or if people like myself who have dared to be skeptical about them will be eating theirs
As I said probably best to wait at least till public beta starts let alone the actual release before any supporters start making final declarations of vindication, to not do so would be really rather silly in my opinion.
But then again, I see that advice is probably lost on someone who’s sig already triumphantly declares “Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.”
Strange that you accuse me of saying Darkfall would not release, because I even say in my post “I think this really is finally it”.
Did you actually even read my post before making an irrelevant accusatory one line response to it, does not appear so.
Surely you mean when DF is released and its everything the developers and community have said it would be for the last 7+ years?. Because I’ve never categorically stated Darkfall will never release, so in the event that it does I will never need to “eat my words” concerning that particular issue. The actual words that I’m interested in are the ones that have been spoken about what Darkfall will definitely be when its released by the developers and the supporters over the last 7+ years. And whether or not they will be eating them or if people like myself who have dared to be skeptical about them will be eating theirs As I said probably best to wait at least till public beta starts let alone the actual release before any supporters start making final declarations of vindication, to not do so would be really rather silly in my opinion. But then again, I see that advice is probably lost on someone who’s sig already triumphantly declares “Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.” Strange that you accuse me of saying Darkfall would not release, because I even say in my post “I think this really is finally it”. Did you actually even read my post before making an irrelevant accusatory one line response to it, does not appear so.
Isnt it time you change the quote you have on your profile Polar?
"This is the way the Darkfall ends Not with a beta but a whimper" seems abit out of the question, or?
Originally posted by Polarization Because I’ve never categorically stated Darkfall will never release, so in the event that it does I will never need to “eat my words” concerning that particular issue.
No, you'll be eating the words you've just posted. And the ones before that. And the ones in your profile quote.
And quit dodging the key issue here. Which is: Will you be wanting Ketchup with them, or chili sauce? I'd offer some Newb sauce, but you clearly have plenty of that.
Isnt it time you change the quote you have on your profile Polar? "This is the way the Darkfall ends Not with a beta but a whimper" seems abit out of the question, or? Still believe there isnt a beta coming?
As I have already said that is not a quote it’s an adaptation from a poem by T.S. Eliot.
“This is the way the world ends”
“Not with a bang but a whimper.”
The world being Darkfall.
So until Beta starts, and its not a whimper but is actually a bang, and its not the end but the beginning of Darlfall, then I will admit my skepticism about what Darkfall would ultimately amount to was unfounded, and that I was wrong, and I will apologize to anyone who cares.
But I will not apologize for being critical and skeptical about a great many number of other things over the years including their community relations, and their constant assurances that beta would be coming “soon”, or the extended and convoluted development period, or the fact that we had to wait over 7 years to get a decent video or the extended news blackouts, or 5 years of vague and ambiguous statements and unsubstantiated claims from Tasos etc. etc.
Because those things are all facts and most people including the fans agree they have been unfortunate and regrettable.
Originally posted by Polarization Because I’ve never categorically stated Darkfall will never release, so in the event that it does I will never need to “eat my words” concerning that particular issue.
No, you'll be eating the words you've just posted. And the ones before that. And the ones in your profile quote.
And quit dodging the key issue here. Which is: Will you be wanting Ketchup with them, or chili sauce? I'd offer some Newb sauce, but you clearly have plenty of that.
This whole situation is absurd because you are assuming I am allready definitely already wrong about anything you think I might or might not of said purely based on what a 17 minute video might or might not mean.
You have not played Darkfall.
I have not played Darkfall.
Hardly anyone ever has played Darkfall.
Darkfall is not in public beta yet.
Darkfall has not released yet.
So come back to me with your ketchup only after it has, then you can enjoy your victory laps and bask in the glory of your heroic victory only after all those things have happened.
And only if they fulfill the majority of the promises made by the developers over the last 7 years and they justify the expectations of the majority of the fans, including yourself, who have recently been busily declaring everything they have ever said has been allready been proven to be correct by this video.
Until then, in my opinion, this is just hubris and expectant pre launch hype from a disgruntled and rejected community who have suffered continued humiliation and disappointment for over 7 years who have finally been given something relatively substantial by the developers to get excited about along with yet another timeframe that beta and launch might happen within.
Unfortunately of course, in my opinion, they have got far to excited about it and have preemptively declared the war won when the battle has only just begun.
But like I said this will probably be lost on someone who has already declared “Darkfall wins”, presumably purely because of a 17 min video.
Originally posted by originalegg edit because its my sig now
awww look at his sig...hes blocking me...how cute...more like scared s**tless. Also you mentioned that us trolls or haters just gave up after the vid? Hell no sir...havent even started yet. There will be more to come i promise you that. Go ahead and block me...when ur ready to drop a set and step up ill be right here.
I can only imagine what is behind that pretty yellow block line Probably something that explains why he is blocked by many.
Also to the people getting on Polar's case...yea he is one of the more veteran naysayers here, but he is also not a troll and actually is able to string sentences together without degrading himself by using swears and insults to try and prove his point.
Well hopefully the drama will come to an end in a few months, but yea expect to see a lot of the trolls trying to cover their tracks and play the whole "i never said it wouldnt release, i was just skeptical of its quality" card.
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines.
AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines.
AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
/Signed
Darkfall Developers havent lied to there fans, its something thats been made up by nay-sayers and haters to miscredit them. I asked for quotes of Darkfall developers lying to there fans and still i havent seen one.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines. AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game. DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
/Signed
Darkfall Developers havent lied to there fans, its something thats been made up by nay-sayers and haters to miscredit them. I asked for quotes of Darkfall developers lying to there fans and still i havent seen one.
Who cares about developers quotes from years ago anymore, they have all been provided many times over the years, if you don’t think they were lies or at least dishonest or misleading that’s fine, I do.
I think it would be rather redundant to continue to argue about things from years ago when they have officially committed themselves to starting beta and launching by the end of this year.
They have less then 4 months left, thats if they are planning to launch on the 31st of December.
After waiting for over 7 years, we will finally find out if they have or have not been lying sometime in the next 4 months.
I hope they have not, but I wont exactly be surprised if they have been.
But if they fail to meet this deadline, and I genuinely hope they will meet it, you can be rest assured I and many other people will be rubbing your nose in it by posting all the relevant and numerous quotes from Tasos about their official beta and launch schedule for this year, and present them to you as evidence of what I think constitutes lying.
And I’m quite sure you will still be claiming they were not all lies but where missed deadlines and development mistakes.
So don’t you think its best to just wait at least till beta and release starts some time “soon” over the next 4 months, and you have actually played Darkfall yourself before claiming the developers of Darkfall have definitely not lied ever, especially considering their past history and the claims they have made.
Ironic that you do a /Signed on someone post who says:
“AOC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
How can you be absolutely certain that the same will not be said about Darkfall, you cant, not until we actually play the game or people show us what’s its like in beta, just like AOC.
The 17 min video is precisely a marketing exercise showing game features, and the developers have been saying what’s in the game for years, so just like AOC or any other game, we will not know the truth about Darkfall until beta and then launch.
If they don’t happen this year then that’s just more lies by the developers in my opinion, or yet more missed deadlines and development mistakes to add to the list of many, either way, whatever actually happens, its hardly time to be triumphantly crowing about anything yet really in my opinion ,especially considering there’s only 4 months left and we still don’t even know precisely when Beta is actually starting let alone when Darkfall is being released.
Or the fact that non of us have even played Darkfall yet, I dont want to steal your thunder and thats why I'm keeping a low profile at the moment, but come on how ridiculous is this all going to seem if heaven forbid everything does not work out exactly as the developers have planned and exactly as the supporters are hopping or believe it will.
Your just setting yourself up for disappointment and ridicule in my opinion, but be my guest, it just makes it more entertaining for people who enjoy this sort of thing.
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines.
AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
I wouldn't call that missing deadlines I'd call that misleading in a effort to drum up hype. If you don't think misrepresenting yourself is lying that is your choice.
DF features have yet to be touched by actual players. Crowing about DFs features that have yet to be touch will make the fanbois look really stupid if it does pull a AoC.
If you want to rose color that glass that is your choice to possible set yourself up. I have 0 faith in these developers.
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Well thanks for stopping by and telling us that. Bye!
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
Aight, peace out bro. Thanks for warning me about the impending disaster!
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Awsome...another troll bowing out of the arguement. Things are looking up!
Seriously this forum has gotten so much better since the video came out. There is still some nonsense drama, but for the most part the threads have good discussion and newcomers to DF asking questions which the community is giving objective answers to.
(and before the nit train comes into the station, yea pinkcat isnt being objective, he pretty much copy pastes the exact same thing he said above into every post of his on this forum and offers nothing new, and is basically just trolling)
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
see the other thread about graphics. comparing it to eq1 just confirms you as a troll. we had a good discussion about its graphics in another thread with *gasp* examples and support and when shown comparisons between DF and EQ, even the people who originally stated DF was like EQ admitted that yea it was a pretty false statement and that DF was way better.
Hey we will see you in game, or at least here being bitter when the game releases.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
QQ more brotha. Don't forget to shut the door on the way out.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
QQ more brotha. Don't forget to shut the door on the way out.
Hah hah, are we finally getting an actual darkfall forum here again? This is amazing. We just had two trolls who probably watched the video on youtube, have never looked at screenshots and whose main complaints were about graphics, peace the fuck out. I'm happy. Here's to more constructive discussion.
Agreed, I don't really want to waste my typing here anymore either, I just come in this forum now to shake my head at those who actually think this is the pinnacle of MMO gaming that will be released anytime soon if at all ( more likely not at all ).
No point in posting about it anymore, your right that video was horrible and vile. If I wanted graphics and gameplay that looked like that I would just play EQ1 and call it a day. Least EQ1 is out and released about 200 expansions in the time it has taken DF just to develop it's core client.
*shakes head*
I'm out.
QQ more brotha. Don't forget to shut the door on the way out.
Hah hah, are we finally getting an actual darkfall forum here again? This is amazing. We just had two trolls who probably watched the video on youtube, have never looked at screenshots and whose main complaints were about graphics, peace the fuck out. I'm happy. Here's to more constructive discussion.
Yup the first couple of days after the video were filled with bitterness from the vapor trolls and they attacked random things. At this point they have ultimately been proven wrong and have just given up, except for a few who take it personally.
That plus some increased moderation in the forum has given us a much better environment here that has had a lot of good discussion lately.
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Think I will leave this forum too, for a while. The believers have been so hurt along the years they are rabid right now
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In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08 - Rest In Peace; you will not be forgotten
Actually it's true.
A fan is just someone who loves a game and wants to post constructive things about the game and his/her experiences in the game.
A troll is someone who posts negative, unconstructive and inflammatory things purely to get a rise from the fans for his own amusement.
By that definition trolls are evil, while fans are forum saints.
I notice Zorvan has abandoned the forums too
This is all going to plan perfectly.
Huge influx of once hurt and dejected fans who are now triumphant and euphoric reclaiming this forum for their own.
Declarations of final victory and vindication by said fans and long term supporters over the evil “vapor troll haters” before they have even played the game yet.
Impressive display of hubris and ecstatic optimism and expectation released after being pent up over 7+ years of disappointment and frustration.
All because we finally got a video lasting more then a couple of minutes after 7+ years of waiting.
After we waited 3 months for it to be produced.
That was good, but not that good, that unfortunately contained a lot of what we have already been shown in the last video, just more and longer versions of it.
All the while apparently being oblivious to the glaring fact theirs actually only 3 months left to publicly beta test and launch Darkfall , amongst many other things.
And we still know very little to nothing definitive about so very many aspects concerning Darkfall, including even many things that where shown, some only very briefly, in the apparently “comprehensive” video itself.
This is certainly going to be entertaining.
My impression is that many of the vapor troll haters, myself included have simply decided trying to reason with an excited mob under the present circumstances is futile, so they have decided to mingle with the crowd and enjoy the ride.
Unfortunately this is just history repeating itself, as it does with every game that’s hyped pre launch by people who don’t know any better and who have not played the game yet, the result is generally predictable, but it does not make the process any less gratifying to observe.
Or of course this could all just be another non event, its not like there’s not been a precedent for it before, at least several times over the years, but I doubt it this time, I think this really is finally it.
Will you be wanting tomato sauce with those words when DF is released, Polarization? Salt? Pepper?
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Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.
Surely you mean when DF is released and its everything the developers and community have said it would be for the last 7+ years?.
Because I’ve never categorically stated Darkfall will never release, so in the event that it does I will never need to “eat my words” concerning that particular issue.
The actual words that I’m interested in are the ones that have been spoken about what Darkfall will definitely be when its released by the developers and the supporters over the last 7+ years.
And whether or not they will be eating them or if people like myself who have dared to be skeptical about them will be eating theirs
As I said probably best to wait at least till public beta starts let alone the actual release before any supporters start making final declarations of vindication, to not do so would be really rather silly in my opinion.
But then again, I see that advice is probably lost on someone who’s sig already triumphantly declares “Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.”
Strange that you accuse me of saying Darkfall would not release, because I even say in my post “I think this really is finally it”.
Did you actually even read my post before making an irrelevant accusatory one line response to it, does not appear so.
Isnt it time you change the quote you have on your profile Polar?
"This is the way the Darkfall ends Not with a beta but a whimper" seems abit out of the question, or?
Still believe there isnt a beta coming?
No, you'll be eating the words you've just posted. And the ones before that. And the ones in your profile quote.
And quit dodging the key issue here. Which is: Will you be wanting Ketchup with them, or chili sauce? I'd offer some Newb sauce, but you clearly have plenty of that.
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Darkfall wins. Vaportrolls lose.
As I have already said that is not a quote it’s an adaptation from a poem by T.S. Eliot.
“This is the way the world ends”
“Not with a bang but a whimper.”
The world being Darkfall.
So until Beta starts, and its not a whimper but is actually a bang, and its not the end but the beginning of Darlfall, then I will admit my skepticism about what Darkfall would ultimately amount to was unfounded, and that I was wrong, and I will apologize to anyone who cares.
But I will not apologize for being critical and skeptical about a great many number of other things over the years including their community relations, and their constant assurances that beta would be coming “soon”, or the extended and convoluted development period, or the fact that we had to wait over 7 years to get a decent video or the extended news blackouts, or 5 years of vague and ambiguous statements and unsubstantiated claims from Tasos etc. etc.
Because those things are all facts and most people including the fans agree they have been unfortunate and regrettable.
No, you'll be eating the words you've just posted. And the ones before that. And the ones in your profile quote.
And quit dodging the key issue here. Which is: Will you be wanting Ketchup with them, or chili sauce? I'd offer some Newb sauce, but you clearly have plenty of that.
This whole situation is absurd because you are assuming I am allready definitely already wrong about anything you think I might or might not of said purely based on what a 17 minute video might or might not mean.
You have not played Darkfall.
I have not played Darkfall.
Hardly anyone ever has played Darkfall.
Darkfall is not in public beta yet.
Darkfall has not released yet.
So come back to me with your ketchup only after it has, then you can enjoy your victory laps and bask in the glory of your heroic victory only after all those things have happened.
And only if they fulfill the majority of the promises made by the developers over the last 7 years and they justify the expectations of the majority of the fans, including yourself, who have recently been busily declaring everything they have ever said has been allready been proven to be correct by this video.
Until then, in my opinion, this is just hubris and expectant pre launch hype from a disgruntled and rejected community who have suffered continued humiliation and disappointment for over 7 years who have finally been given something relatively substantial by the developers to get excited about along with yet another timeframe that beta and launch might happen within.
Unfortunately of course, in my opinion, they have got far to excited about it and have preemptively declared the war won when the battle has only just begun.
But like I said this will probably be lost on someone who has already declared “Darkfall wins”, presumably purely because of a 17 min video.
awww look at his sig...hes blocking me...how cute...more like scared s**tless. Also you mentioned that us trolls or haters just gave up after the vid? Hell no sir...havent even started yet. There will be more to come i promise you that. Go ahead and block me...when ur ready to drop a set and step up ill be right here.
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I can only imagine what is behind that pretty yellow block line
Probably something that explains why he is blocked by many.
Also to the people getting on Polar's case...yea he is one of the more veteran naysayers here, but he is also not a troll and actually is able to string sentences together without degrading himself by using swears and insults to try and prove his point.
Well hopefully the drama will come to an end in a few months, but yea expect to see a lot of the trolls trying to cover their tracks and play the whole "i never said it wouldnt release, i was just skeptical of its quality" card.
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Click this for lulz: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737/page/6
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines.
AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
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Click this for lulz: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/173737/page/6
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines.
AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
/Signed
Darkfall Developers havent lied to there fans, its something thats been made up by nay-sayers and haters to miscredit them. I asked for quotes of Darkfall developers lying to there fans and still i havent seen one.
/Signed
Darkfall Developers havent lied to there fans, its something thats been made up by nay-sayers and haters to miscredit them. I asked for quotes of Darkfall developers lying to there fans and still i havent seen one.
Who cares about developers quotes from years ago anymore, they have all been provided many times over the years, if you don’t think they were lies or at least dishonest or misleading that’s fine, I do.
I think it would be rather redundant to continue to argue about things from years ago when they have officially committed themselves to starting beta and launching by the end of this year.
They have less then 4 months left, thats if they are planning to launch on the 31st of December.
After waiting for over 7 years, we will finally find out if they have or have not been lying sometime in the next 4 months.
I hope they have not, but I wont exactly be surprised if they have been.
But if they fail to meet this deadline, and I genuinely hope they will meet it, you can be rest assured I and many other people will be rubbing your nose in it by posting all the relevant and numerous quotes from Tasos about their official beta and launch schedule for this year, and present them to you as evidence of what I think constitutes lying.
And I’m quite sure you will still be claiming they were not all lies but where missed deadlines and development mistakes.
So don’t you think its best to just wait at least till beta and release starts some time “soon” over the next 4 months, and you have actually played Darkfall yourself before claiming the developers of Darkfall have definitely not lied ever, especially considering their past history and the claims they have made.
Ironic that you do a /Signed on someone post who says:
“AOC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
How can you be absolutely certain that the same will not be said about Darkfall, you cant, not until we actually play the game or people show us what’s its like in beta, just like AOC.
The 17 min video is precisely a marketing exercise showing game features, and the developers have been saying what’s in the game for years, so just like AOC or any other game, we will not know the truth about Darkfall until beta and then launch.
If they don’t happen this year then that’s just more lies by the developers in my opinion, or yet more missed deadlines and development mistakes to add to the list of many, either way, whatever actually happens, its hardly time to be triumphantly crowing about anything yet really in my opinion ,especially considering there’s only 4 months left and we still don’t even know precisely when Beta is actually starting let alone when Darkfall is being released.
Or the fact that non of us have even played Darkfall yet, I dont want to steal your thunder and thats why I'm keeping a low profile at the moment, but come on how ridiculous is this all going to seem if heaven forbid everything does not work out exactly as the developers have planned and exactly as the supporters are hopping or believe it will.
Your just setting yourself up for disappointment and ridicule in my opinion, but be my guest, it just makes it more entertaining for people who enjoy this sort of thing.
Wait what? I get you fanbois are all euphoric about them actually releasing the videos but you can't re-right history.
If you were smart IF I wouldn't be crowing so hard till actual players get their hands on DF.
Im not going to make excuses for their development cycle...but there is a difference between lying and missing deadlines.
AoC lied by marketing features and saying it was in game, only to have it not in game.
DF saying there will be an update next week and not getting it till later is missing a deadline. DF giving beta invites then admitting they arent ready for it, is missing a deadline or making a development mistake. It is not lieing.
I wouldn't call that missing deadlines I'd call that misleading in a effort to drum up hype. If you don't think misrepresenting yourself is lying that is your choice.
DF features have yet to be touched by actual players. Crowing about DFs features that have yet to be touch will make the fanbois look really stupid if it does pull a AoC.
If you want to rose color that glass that is your choice to possible set yourself up. I have 0 faith in these developers.