I must say that trying out WotLK really made me appreciate WAR. Somehow Blizzard even made the story of Death Knights into a massive snorefest of ambivalent serious-written-by-an-intern quest dialogue mixed with popculture references and tired attemps at humour. No thank you.
It's funny how you bash this. Did you even read the storyline, or watch the events? Did you notice the zone phasing?
I can't even believe you can compare the storys. WAR has the most boring uninteresting, repetitive, generic storylines i've ever seen in a mmorpg. EVER.
Seriously though, WoW might be dead for some people - it pretty much is for me; I've given it 5 chances now and they all ended the same. Just can't get into it.
But as far as being an active and successful MMO with a huge playerbase goes, no one (yet) holds a candle to WoW - personal opinions notwithstanding. It will happen, eventually. But it hasn't yet.
I am kinda getting a kick out of the people I know playing WoW who are all freaking out over WoTLK as though it's the cure for cancer or something.
To quote one particularly zealous person "All other MMOs may as well shut down. Lich King renders them *all* - yes... *ALL* of them - irrelevant."
That is a direct quote.
I laughed.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
OP lost any reason when he said: Wintergrasp is an instanced zone....
The Death Knight story arc is AWESOME, only mindless grinders don't stop to read it and see the phasings.
As in TBC, entry raids are always easier that the upcomming ones. Sun Well wasn't in the TBC launch. And most guild that already finished them are HARDCORE guilds which would down WAR in LESS time.
Naxx is a REVAMP from the, near to impossible to do, NAX from classic. Here you count in one hand the raid groups which finished it (NAX 40)
And WoW arena Seasons are be LARGE WAY HARDER that MOST WAR pvps.
WAR is a good game, but has serious flaws. As ANY RvR based game NEEDS players to make it enjoyable.
Raiding Stormwind / Ogrimmar is far more challenging that raiding the instanced Altendorf / Inevitable City. These two last only didn't fall because their are mostly bugged.
At last, in BLIZZARD WE CAN TRUST, in EA WE CAN'T.
I must say that trying out WotLK really made me appreciate WAR. Somehow Blizzard even made the story of Death Knights into a massive snorefest of ambivalent serious-written-by-an-intern quest dialogue mixed with popculture references and tired attemps at humour. No thank you.
It's funny how you bash this. Did you even read the storyline, or watch the events? Did you notice the zone phasing?
I can't even believe you can compare the storys. WAR has the most boring uninteresting, repetitive, generic storylines i've ever seen in a mmorpg. EVER.
Are you kidding? WoW's quest stories are the very definition of bland. And from reading the quest text, it's quite clear that no one cares less about them than Blizzard.
I must say that trying out WotLK really made me appreciate WAR. Somehow Blizzard even made the story of Death Knights into a massive snorefest of ambivalent serious-written-by-an-intern quest dialogue mixed with popculture references and tired attemps at humour. No thank you.
It's funny how you bash this. Did you even read the storyline, or watch the events? Did you notice the zone phasing?
I can't even believe you can compare the storys. WAR has the most boring uninteresting, repetitive, generic storylines i've ever seen in a mmorpg. EVER.
Are you kidding? WoW's quest stories are the very definition of bland. And from reading the quest text, it's quite clear that no one cares less about them than Blizzard.
After playing lich king I have to respectfully disagree with you. The story lines are epic, sometimes humerous, but overall they are very well done and worth taking the time to read. Not only that, but the layout, the design and the various different game mechanics used are second to none. I have not been this impressed in a game in a very very long time.
Oddly enough I found the quests about the worst aspect of Warhammer even after all the "wow stole Warhmmer lore" posts. A few of my friends were excited as they are long time Warhammer fans of 15+ years. Yeah I know it is a PvP game, but they are going to put PvE in, they should have at least tried.
I felt that Mythic completely gave up on PvE quests as anything worth interacting with. First they detail the exact location of your quest goal on the minimap complete with tooltip information should you hover over it. While I think that makes for lazy gameplay and could have been lived with, it was the quest text that killed it. The mechanical part of the quest is dsiplayed in a high contrast font as if to make reading the actual reason for doing the quest optional. The story and lore of the quest is segmentented into a low contrast color so that it doesn't steal attention from the obviously much more important mechanic text right below it. Splitting the story and mechanics up this way gave the quests a real generic factory produced feeling to them. As if Mythic just gave up trying to make them anything other than kill X quests that were a necessary evil to level a character. The quests were very dull and even the npcs didn't interact well. They mostly just stood around waiting to die and often ignored your presence or you killing the orc they were talking to. Bleh
WAR is a great game starting off, but is way too slow moving to keep me interested. The PvP is good when it's balanced, but annoying when it's not because you can't do anything other than log off. There is something missing from it that is keeping it from being an outstanding game, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US.
WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US. WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Any time I play a MMO where I have to kill 50 wolves to get 2 ears, War feels like a relief to me. I read the quest, I do the quest (and I only need 2 wolves to get 2 ears) and I turn it in, done in 15 minutes. Besides that War is the only game in which I like PvP.
The PQ's are basicly a good idea, the only flaw is that most people leave them when they see scenario's pop up (me included). The world in War is quite big, so there's plenty to discover. I really enjoy the game, like I enjoyed WoW when it was released.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US. WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Believe what? The only thing I can think of WoW doing better is combat "feel" for casters (it's crap for melee and archery, though) and having more end-game PvE dungeon content.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US. WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Believe what? The only thing I can think of WoW doing better is combat "feel" for casters (it's crap for melee and archery, though) and having more end-game PvE dungeon content.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US. WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Believe what? The only thing I can think of WoW doing better is combat "feel" for casters (it's crap for melee and archery, though) and having more end-game PvE dungeon content.
Dont forget healers either, nor the counterspell timings.
Timing is what counts in PvP and that's the reason I stopped with War. The RvR is a very nice feature, but PvP mechanics are just not good enough. You battle the unresponsive behaviour of your characters instead of fighting the others.
As for the new WotLK PvP : I can't hink of a player who still wants to fight in War when they have experienced the new Siege battles in Wow. Seeing is believing and particpating in it is incredible for an MMORPG.
PvP wise of course. Wow has no real RvR system at the moment, but I doubt players want that in that game. But comparing an old Warsong Gulch with the new Strand or Wintergrasp is like saying you like Stratego but now you have COD.
I want a NEW MMORPG wargame from Blizzard with these same techniques. Why not a mediavel, WW2 or WW3 game, it'd be a piece of cake if you see the latest battles they can produce now.
War just came 2 years too late on the market, because each day new players will be confronted with the new PvP in Wow, no one experiencing it will want to go back to 2004. Mythic just doesn't have the same means of developping these things (read money).
It's all a question of having the best of the best (paid) people in every part of the game. The time of the big developpers - Bioware and Blizzard - will for ever change the MMORPG's.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US. WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Jeepers creepers.... I have to say this utter nonsense, sorry. WAR fails on every comparison with WOW in my opinion. WAR is ok, as games go, but it has some fundamental design flaws. WAR is sloppy and clumsy, it may get polish as things progress but time will tell.
Steadily dwindling? Really? WotLK hit and on my Eu server the queue times hit 30mins ( 600 people ) until they put in transfers to cope with it.
Any time I play a MMO where I have to kill 50 wolves to get 2 ears, War feels like a relief to me. I read the quest, I do the quest (and I only need 2 wolves to get 2 ears) and I turn it in, done in 15 minutes. Besides that War is the only game in which I like PvP. The PQ's are basicly a good idea, the only flaw is that most people leave them when they see scenario's pop up (me included). The world in War is quite big, so there's plenty to discover. I really enjoy the game, like I enjoyed WoW when it was released.
Apparently you don't play WotLK.
No need to rush and say it's the same old crap. Simply it isn't. Each day I am learning more from the Lich King and indeed the days of the 2 ears collecting are long gone in WotLK. Apparently they only drop in the traditional MMORPG's of this world and sadly the PVE part in War is still one of them.
As the PvP part is now incomparable between the new genaration air land combat in WotLK I see the future of War filled with very very dark clouds.
I hope for you it will still exist in 8 months, but I am beginning to have serious doubts. I'd day 75% EA will shut down the servers in 8 months time (summer) if nothing changes. Economics play a role but also the aged unresponsive engine is too clunky to allow anything innovative in terms of flying or dynamic world changes we see now in the new WotLK PvP zones.
The difference between WotLK and War in even its core PvP and PVE is just too big at the moment.
My personal opinion is WoW is like the movies. The Original WoW was a great movie. Unfortunately they have brought out 2 sequels and we all know how sequels rate compare to the original.
WAR is cheap knock off of the Original Movie. Sort of like Krull the Barbarian was to Conan the Barbarian.
OP consider for a moment why you decided to make such a comparison with WoW. It's because you are playing a WoW clone. You're game is trying to emulate WoW. If WoW sucks, why is WAR trying so hard to be WoW? Think about it.
I remember when my entire guild moved to WAR we are about 75 people, a month ago some of us including me decided to leave to WoW again becuase WAR even tho on a good setting was missing alot of polish, so one of my officers took charge of the guild in WAR and some of us (about 20) came back to WoW, our server was pretty populated from the start (Eltharion EU) and they had plans to do PVP and eventually conquer a capital city... as time went by more and more people starting to cross over to the WoW division and now a rank 20 guild is held by one of my alts alone.
The game does still have alot of potential but that potential is lost due to the initial impact if the game fails the first time around no amount of polishing is gonna make it popular again.
Any time I play a MMO where I have to kill 50 wolves to get 2 ears, War feels like a relief to me. I read the quest, I do the quest (and I only need 2 wolves to get 2 ears)
Sometimes I wonder if this is the same company that made daoc. I was really looking forward to this game but someone forgot to give the rvr any meaning, so now they are trying to figure out how to get players in open rvr.
I find war boring. Crafting is a joke, the much hyped RvR is the same. RvR, fighting npc's, as guilds are now avoiding each other just to win prizes. PQ's = grind x amount of mobs to gain influnce as it is hard to find a group to complete them. ranged war, cc, melee death in a few seconds does not make for a fun rvr game.
I'm not a big wow fan, I've played it on and off since it was released. didn't even buy the new expansion. but I do feel at this time it's a better game. Bliz was smart enough to give their players options on what they can do in game. not just stand around it a que waiting on the bg to pop. Yes it is simple, ( Ac at the start was and is one of the best made, not simple by a long shot.) But until someone else figures out that players like to have a place to gather, like to do different things, and puts the small things in the game , bliz will rule.
Ask soe, they had a good one going, stepped on it with both feet and have yet to come close again.
Sorry to troll. If you feel you got more important things to do in life than play mmos, quit. If you got nothing better to do than try to convince random people on the internet what mmo "is the best" (like me?), quit.
I just enjoy reading this forum every once in a while, that is all.
Let's face it, ALL pve and raid WOTLK content was beaten by the best guild 2 days after release, and most of the top 50-100 guilds have now cleared all of it also. It will take 1 more week for most of the good raiding guilds to complete all of it - including malygos, full naxx 25 etc Then everyone and their granny who has never played a computer game will be able to kill Kelthuzad and Malygos. Sad but true, WoW is just dumb now. WoW has been dumbed down so that anyone with a keyboard can complete it and get their epics. It's boring to know everyone has full epics and there's no variety, no sense of achievement. There's simply no point to WoW any more. It's not fun, and it's too easy. It's pointless.
WAR may not be as polished, but it is more fun. I play with a good top-end guild, we are killing bosses in Lost Vale that are harder than any boss in WOTLK (order doesn't have repel) And the mass PVP with zone control throughout the actual game map (rather than some instances lake BG aka AV2) is more fun than crappy arena duels and the same BGs again and again. I see a lot of people who have now completed WoW/WOTLK looking around saying "is that all there is?" I'm happy playing WAR
Let's face it, ALL pve and raid WOTLK content was beaten by the best guild 2 days after release, and most of the top 50-100 guilds have now cleared all of it also. It will take 1 more week for most of the good raiding guilds to complete all of it - including malygos, full naxx 25 etc Then everyone and their granny who has never played a computer game will be able to kill Kelthuzad and Malygos. Sad but true, WoW is just dumb now. WoW has been dumbed down so that anyone with a keyboard can complete it and get their epics. It's boring to know everyone has full epics and there's no variety, no sense of achievement. There's simply no point to WoW any more. It's not fun, and it's too easy. It's pointless.
WAR may not be as polished, but it is more fun. I play with a good top-end guild, we are killing bosses in Lost Vale that are harder than any boss in WOTLK (order doesn't have repel) And the mass PVP with zone control throughout the actual game map (rather than some instances lake BG aka AV2) is more fun than crappy arena duels and the same BGs again and again. I see a lot of people who have now completed WoW/WOTLK looking around saying "is that all there is?" I'm happy playing WAR
WoW is a dumbed down game, for dumbed down folk.
Why do you think it has such a large player base?
I wonder which people are dumber. Those playing Wow or those who believe the nonsense above
For those interested in the basic WotLK dungeons (not even the Raid content): Here is some info
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It's funny how you bash this. Did you even read the storyline, or watch the events? Did you notice the zone phasing?
I can't even believe you can compare the storys. WAR has the most boring uninteresting, repetitive, generic storylines i've ever seen in a mmorpg. EVER.
War is very boring compared to WoW.
WAR Sucks... WoW Sucks... all mmo sucks....
Every OS Sucks!
Seriously though, WoW might be dead for some people - it pretty much is for me; I've given it 5 chances now and they all ended the same. Just can't get into it.
But as far as being an active and successful MMO with a huge playerbase goes, no one (yet) holds a candle to WoW - personal opinions notwithstanding. It will happen, eventually. But it hasn't yet.
I am kinda getting a kick out of the people I know playing WoW who are all freaking out over WoTLK as though it's the cure for cancer or something.
To quote one particularly zealous person "All other MMOs may as well shut down. Lich King renders them *all* - yes... *ALL* of them - irrelevant."
That is a direct quote.
I laughed.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
OP lost any reason when he said: Wintergrasp is an instanced zone....
The Death Knight story arc is AWESOME, only mindless grinders don't stop to read it and see the phasings.
As in TBC, entry raids are always easier that the upcomming ones. Sun Well wasn't in the TBC launch. And most guild that already finished them are HARDCORE guilds which would down WAR in LESS time.
Naxx is a REVAMP from the, near to impossible to do, NAX from classic. Here you count in one hand the raid groups which finished it (NAX 40)
And WoW arena Seasons are be LARGE WAY HARDER that MOST WAR pvps.
WAR is a good game, but has serious flaws. As ANY RvR based game NEEDS players to make it enjoyable.
Raiding Stormwind / Ogrimmar is far more challenging that raiding the instanced Altendorf / Inevitable City. These two last only didn't fall because their are mostly bugged.
At last, in BLIZZARD WE CAN TRUST, in EA WE CAN'T.
It's funny how you bash this. Did you even read the storyline, or watch the events? Did you notice the zone phasing?
I can't even believe you can compare the storys. WAR has the most boring uninteresting, repetitive, generic storylines i've ever seen in a mmorpg. EVER.
Are you kidding? WoW's quest stories are the very definition of bland. And from reading the quest text, it's quite clear that no one cares less about them than Blizzard.
It's funny how you bash this. Did you even read the storyline, or watch the events? Did you notice the zone phasing?
I can't even believe you can compare the storys. WAR has the most boring uninteresting, repetitive, generic storylines i've ever seen in a mmorpg. EVER.
Are you kidding? WoW's quest stories are the very definition of bland. And from reading the quest text, it's quite clear that no one cares less about them than Blizzard.
After playing lich king I have to respectfully disagree with you. The story lines are epic, sometimes humerous, but overall they are very well done and worth taking the time to read. Not only that, but the layout, the design and the various different game mechanics used are second to none. I have not been this impressed in a game in a very very long time.
Oddly enough I found the quests about the worst aspect of Warhammer even after all the "wow stole Warhmmer lore" posts. A few of my friends were excited as they are long time Warhammer fans of 15+ years. Yeah I know it is a PvP game, but they are going to put PvE in, they should have at least tried.
I felt that Mythic completely gave up on PvE quests as anything worth interacting with. First they detail the exact location of your quest goal on the minimap complete with tooltip information should you hover over it. While I think that makes for lazy gameplay and could have been lived with, it was the quest text that killed it. The mechanical part of the quest is dsiplayed in a high contrast font as if to make reading the actual reason for doing the quest optional. The story and lore of the quest is segmentented into a low contrast color so that it doesn't steal attention from the obviously much more important mechanic text right below it. Splitting the story and mechanics up this way gave the quests a real generic factory produced feeling to them. As if Mythic just gave up trying to make them anything other than kill X quests that were a necessary evil to level a character. The quests were very dull and even the npcs didn't interact well. They mostly just stood around waiting to die and often ignored your presence or you killing the orc they were talking to. Bleh
WAR is a great game starting off, but is way too slow moving to keep me interested. The PvP is good when it's balanced, but annoying when it's not because you can't do anything other than log off. There is something missing from it that is keeping it from being an outstanding game, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Well WoW isn't dead - there's way too many players still "hooked" on it, and even though it's been steadily dwindling in the western markets, it's found new life in Asia. I don't know how WAR will be received in Asia once it launched there, though. Asian MMOs are amazingly grind-based as apparently they like that there, so it's no wonder they received WoW reasonably well. But the massive Lineage 2 is PvP oriented as I understand it, so it's likely WAR will be extremely successful there just as it was in EU/US.
WAR does seem to do mostly anything that WoW does, better, though.
Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Any time I play a MMO where I have to kill 50 wolves to get 2 ears, War feels like a relief to me. I read the quest, I do the quest (and I only need 2 wolves to get 2 ears) and I turn it in, done in 15 minutes. Besides that War is the only game in which I like PvP.
The PQ's are basicly a good idea, the only flaw is that most people leave them when they see scenario's pop up (me included). The world in War is quite big, so there's plenty to discover. I really enjoy the game, like I enjoyed WoW when it was released.
Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Believe what? The only thing I can think of WoW doing better is combat "feel" for casters (it's crap for melee and archery, though) and having more end-game PvE dungeon content.
Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Believe what? The only thing I can think of WoW doing better is combat "feel" for casters (it's crap for melee and archery, though) and having more end-game PvE dungeon content.
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Seriously....do you really beleive all that?
Believe what? The only thing I can think of WoW doing better is combat "feel" for casters (it's crap for melee and archery, though) and having more end-game PvE dungeon content.
Dont forget healers either, nor the counterspell timings.
Timing is what counts in PvP and that's the reason I stopped with War. The RvR is a very nice feature, but PvP mechanics are just not good enough. You battle the unresponsive behaviour of your characters instead of fighting the others.
As for the new WotLK PvP : I can't hink of a player who still wants to fight in War when they have experienced the new Siege battles in Wow. Seeing is believing and particpating in it is incredible for an MMORPG.
PvP wise of course. Wow has no real RvR system at the moment, but I doubt players want that in that game. But comparing an old Warsong Gulch with the new Strand or Wintergrasp is like saying you like Stratego but now you have COD.
I want a NEW MMORPG wargame from Blizzard with these same techniques. Why not a mediavel, WW2 or WW3 game, it'd be a piece of cake if you see the latest battles they can produce now.
War just came 2 years too late on the market, because each day new players will be confronted with the new PvP in Wow, no one experiencing it will want to go back to 2004. Mythic just doesn't have the same means of developping these things (read money).
It's all a question of having the best of the best (paid) people in every part of the game. The time of the big developpers - Bioware and Blizzard - will for ever change the MMORPG's.
Jeepers creepers.... I have to say this utter nonsense, sorry. WAR fails on every comparison with WOW in my opinion. WAR is ok, as games go, but it has some fundamental design flaws. WAR is sloppy and clumsy, it may get polish as things progress but time will tell.
Steadily dwindling? Really? WotLK hit and on my Eu server the queue times hit 30mins ( 600 people ) until they put in transfers to cope with it.
Apparently you don't play WotLK.
No need to rush and say it's the same old crap. Simply it isn't. Each day I am learning more from the Lich King and indeed the days of the 2 ears collecting are long gone in WotLK. Apparently they only drop in the traditional MMORPG's of this world and sadly the PVE part in War is still one of them.
As the PvP part is now incomparable between the new genaration air land combat in WotLK I see the future of War filled with very very dark clouds.
I hope for you it will still exist in 8 months, but I am beginning to have serious doubts. I'd day 75% EA will shut down the servers in 8 months time (summer) if nothing changes. Economics play a role but also the aged unresponsive engine is too clunky to allow anything innovative in terms of flying or dynamic world changes we see now in the new WotLK PvP zones.
The difference between WotLK and War in even its core PvP and PVE is just too big at the moment.
My personal opinion is WoW is like the movies. The Original WoW was a great movie. Unfortunately they have brought out 2 sequels and we all know how sequels rate compare to the original.
WAR is cheap knock off of the Original Movie. Sort of like Krull the Barbarian was to Conan the Barbarian.
Okay bad example, but you get my drift.
Waiting for the next thing
OP consider for a moment why you decided to make such a comparison with WoW. It's because you are playing a WoW clone. You're game is trying to emulate WoW. If WoW sucks, why is WAR trying so hard to be WoW? Think about it.
I remember when my entire guild moved to WAR we are about 75 people, a month ago some of us including me decided to leave to WoW again becuase WAR even tho on a good setting was missing alot of polish, so one of my officers took charge of the guild in WAR and some of us (about 20) came back to WoW, our server was pretty populated from the start (Eltharion EU) and they had plans to do PVP and eventually conquer a capital city... as time went by more and more people starting to cross over to the WoW division and now a rank 20 guild is held by one of my alts alone.
The game does still have alot of potential but that potential is lost due to the initial impact if the game fails the first time around no amount of polishing is gonna make it popular again.
hmm alot of 1 eared wolves running around
Sometimes I wonder if this is the same company that made daoc. I was really looking forward to this game but someone forgot to give the rvr any meaning, so now they are trying to figure out how to get players in open rvr.
I find war boring. Crafting is a joke, the much hyped RvR is the same. RvR, fighting npc's, as guilds are now avoiding each other just to win prizes. PQ's = grind x amount of mobs to gain influnce as it is hard to find a group to complete them. ranged war, cc, melee death in a few seconds does not make for a fun rvr game.
I'm not a big wow fan, I've played it on and off since it was released. didn't even buy the new expansion. but I do feel at this time it's a better game. Bliz was smart enough to give their players options on what they can do in game. not just stand around it a que waiting on the bg to pop. Yes it is simple, ( Ac at the start was and is one of the best made, not simple by a long shot.) But until someone else figures out that players like to have a place to gather, like to do different things, and puts the small things in the game , bliz will rule.
Ask soe, they had a good one going, stepped on it with both feet and have yet to come close again.
Sorry to troll. If you feel you got more important things to do in life than play mmos, quit. If you got nothing better to do than try to convince random people on the internet what mmo "is the best" (like me?), quit.
I just enjoy reading this forum every once in a while, that is all.
glhf
Just airwalking.
WoW is a dumbed down game, for dumbed down folk.
Why do you think it has such a large player base?
WoW is a dumbed down game, for dumbed down folk.
Why do you think it has such a large player base?
I wonder which people are dumber. Those playing Wow or those who believe the nonsense above
For those interested in the basic WotLK dungeons (not even the Raid content): Here is some info
http://www.wowinsider.com/photos/wrath-of-the-lich-king-dungeons/1188085/
For the Raids go to Greyhooff, he's an expert in playing a game he didn't even touch.
I hate it when people just start lying.