From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
What a bunch of sad people think I somehow need to explain in detail my love for this game and defend it from your accusations. I'm not going to jump into that wagon thanks.
You know you guys are not going to enjoy any MMO ever. Your here camping the MMO's forum you hate the most and bashing it with all your strenght. What a bunch of sad bandas.
You don't know what you want thats your problem and you can't let go of all your vanity thinking how everything is supposed to be.
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
Watch the videos. Some of thoes ARE 400+ players at one battle. 28+ weapons, 38+ vehicles. With planes, tanks, mechs, buggys, dropships, 100% PvP.
Darkfall has 2 swings and a blue ball.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
What a bunch of sad people think I somehow need to explain in detail my love for this game and defend it from your accusations. I'm not going to jump into that wagon thanks. You know you guys are not going to enjoy any MMO ever. Your here camping the MMO's forum you hate the most and bashing it with all your strenght. What a bunch of sad bandas. You don't know what you want thats your problem and you can't let go of all your vanity thinking how everything is supposed to be.
I agree completely. Now I remember why I stopped coming here... yay for various other forums!
"Your mom is my champion... just without the c... or the a... or the m... the p... the i... and now that you mention it, no, no n either."
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
Watch the videos. Some of thoes ARE 400+ players at one battle. 28+ weapons, 38+ vehicles. With planes, tanks, mechs, buggys, dropships, 100% PvP.
Darkfall has 2 swings and a blue ball.
But is $ONY and $OE i have no business with these criminals, anymore , since November 15 2005, the NGE day..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
I agree! Darkfall has set up a new level for the MMO genre. This is it, Darkfall has set the point for the rest of MMO history, where MMOs will be classified as pre-Darkfall or post-Darkfall. The new era has NOTHING to do with the old MMOs, this is something else, that has to be experienced to believe. Tasos will be giving conferences around the world, MILLIONS will play Darkfall, and if they don't it's because they are not real MMO players.
HALLELUJA!!!
"Hmm ok guys get the stamina potions and lets press left mouse button with no end attacking those suckers. Hope everybody macroed their skills to the max.. Good. Lets go. We are legend."
darkfall = immersion (Your personal opinion) no autolock (You just described several other MMOs and all FPS) free loot (Actually valid) sandbox (arguable... static placement of cities/towns/buildings. Difficult if not impossible to be a non-combatant) vendors (Is in every MMO... grats on this being pointless) building (Same as vendors above...) ships (Has been done before, but I will give this to you since it is rare.) pillaging (Subjective and vague. Has been done in several other MMOs to same extent as DF) 300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history (Absurd... Many other MMOs including some F2P have had battles much bigger) 100's of skills (Subjective and not entirely true. If you include passive skills MMOs like WOW and EQII have as many if not more skills... completely misleading.) no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III (Actually misleading, power of spell increases with active skill rank and other schools have similar if not exact same spells with different damage types.) catch my drift simple? Not seeing anything incredibly earth shattering... If it is the best for you I am happy for you. However it is all subjective and should be stated as such. k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. This made me laugh... Put your epeen away son... you are going to hurt yourself.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
darkfall = immersion (Your personal opinion) no autolock (You just described several other MMOs and all FPS) free loot (Actually valid) sandbox (arguable... static placement of cities/towns/buildings. Difficult if not impossible to be a non-combatant) vendors (Is in every MMO... grats on this being pointless) building (Same as vendors above...) ships (Has been done before, but I will give this to you since it is rare.) pillaging (Subjective and vague. Has been done in several other MMOs to same extent as DF) 300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history (Absurd... Many other MMOs including some F2P have had battles much bigger) 100's of skills (Subjective and not entirely true. If you include passive skills MMOs like WOW and EQII have as many if not more skills... completely misleading.) no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III (Actually misleading, power of spell increases with active skill rank and other schools have similar if not exact same spells with different damage types.) catch my drift simple? Not seeing anything incredibly earth shattering... If it is the best for you I am happy for you. However it is all subjective and should be stated as such. k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. This made me laugh... Put your epeen away son... you are going to hurt yourself.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
I agree! Darkfall has set up a new level for the MMO genre. This is it, Darkfall has set the point for the rest of MMO history, where MMOs will be classified as pre-Darkfall or post-Darkfall. The new era has NOTHING to do with the old MMOs, this is something else, that has to be experienced to believe. Tasos will be giving conferences around the world, MILLIONS will play Darkfall, and if they don't it's because they are not real MMO players.
HALLELUJA!!!
"Hmm ok guys get the stamina potions and lets press left mouse button with no end attacking those suckers. Hope everybody macroed their skills to the max.. Good. Lets go. We are legend."
Next thing you know he will be telling everyone to drink from a cup so they can all commit mass suicide together.
darkfall = immersion (Your personal opinion) no autolock (You just described several other MMOs and all FPS) free loot (Actually valid) sandbox (arguable... static placement of cities/towns/buildings. Difficult if not impossible to be a non-combatant) vendors (Is in every MMO... grats on this being pointless) building (Same as vendors above...) ships (Has been done before, but I will give this to you since it is rare.) pillaging (Subjective and vague. Has been done in several other MMOs to same extent as DF) 300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history (Absurd... Many other MMOs including some F2P have had battles much bigger) 100's of skills (Subjective and not entirely true. If you include passive skills MMOs like WOW and EQII have as many if not more skills... completely misleading.) no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III (Actually misleading, power of spell increases with active skill rank and other schools have similar if not exact same spells with different damage types.) catch my drift simple? Not seeing anything incredibly earth shattering... If it is the best for you I am happy for you. However it is all subjective and should be stated as such. k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. This made me laugh... Put your epeen away son... you are going to hurt yourself.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
Hopefully they add animations to go along with better / different skills. Not just for the graphic whores or people who don't want to get mind numbingly bored, it helps with pvp. If you run around and see this guy pvping and just overhead swinging, how do you know he is doing skill 1 or skill 50? Sure damage is different but right now that's it. You can cut/paste skills 50x over and say here are 50 skills enjoy. That doesn't mean there really are 50 skills. Ive never played the game so take it for what it is, however from every single video it looks this way.
Everyone just keeps saying it's because they are newbs but everyone knows macroing is in the game atm and if you guys can kill dragons already, i'm sure someone has seen most of the skills already. Or are dragons easy to kill? (serious question)
He's not the first or last that will honestly feel that Darkfall is the best ever. I totally agree with him and have played every mainstream MMO out there and most of the top FPS.
MMO always meant an easy, cerebral game to me, and FPS meant action, but no permanence. Now I feel like I have both and I've played it back into beta, so longer than the two weeks.
I'd agree with him that this game is not mainstream, not for everyone. You have to like sandbox over storyline, PvP over PvE and you have to care less about what loot you get than what adventure you have.
300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history
No its not.
i guess he'd have a heart attack if he knew there existed a game where 500 v 500 battles were an every day occurence... or where 1000 v 1000 battles happen... or where fights for land/sovereignty have gone on for literal years...
where there are weapons of war which take, a literal YEAR to create, are worth the equivalent (quite literally) of six THOUSAND U.S. dollars and can be lost in the blink of an eye due to incompetent flight commanders?
indeed, a game of this MAGNITUDE would probably make isamright33's heart explode out of his body...
HARDCORE FFA PVP is a game where when you die... you lose ALL of your armor and a big chunk of everything you carried... and what can be looted is whatever is left that hasn't been utterly destroyed after the dust settles.
indeed, darkfall has a long way to go until it reaches the majestic heights of LARGE scale warfare with REAL consequences.
but, what do you expect from a bunch of noobs that have never played a real game?
he'll learn one day, mr bloodworth... mayber.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
What a bunch of sad people think I somehow need to explain in detail my love for this game and defend it from your accusations. I'm not going to jump into that wagon thanks. You know you guys are not going to enjoy any MMO ever. Your here camping the MMO's forum you hate the most and bashing it with all your strenght. What a bunch of sad bandas. You don't know what you want thats your problem and you can't let go of all your vanity thinking how everything is supposed to be.
You came here first, and created this thread for what other purpose besides to elicit exactly the reaction you got.
You can't post in any game on this forum that the game you like is the best game evah without getting a dozen people to disagree with you, that's why forums exist, to dicuss and argue about games.
Since you chose to do so, you are guilty of as many sins as the people you are decrying, and certainly not deserving of any sort of sympathy.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Thats right! No matter the issues it's having atm with ordering and what not, but it's HANDS DOWN THE MOST IMMERSIVE mmorpg experience I have ever had! I will not touch another autolock target game EVER again. Darkfall leads the way to a new MMO era! ABOUT TIME! It's simply beautiful open world thrilling brutal exciting experience. No other MMO have given me such feeling of danger, awareness and freedom I fell in love! I for sure had my doubts about this game but I have played since launch and I'm completely addicted! Never have I been so excited about a new MMO. For the record I have played MMO's since 1999 EQ, DAoC, GW, WOW, EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, WAR.. and other lesser mmo's not even worth mentioning. I suggest everyone to try it don't judge until you have given it a try! It's not for everyone, but definitely worth a try!
Sorry I can't take you serious since you didn't play AC1 on Darktide.
darkfall = immersion (Your personal opinion) no autolock (You just described several other MMOs and all FPS) free loot (Actually valid) sandbox (arguable... static placement of cities/towns/buildings. Difficult if not impossible to be a non-combatant) vendors (Is in every MMO... grats on this being pointless) building (Same as vendors above...) ships (Has been done before, but I will give this to you since it is rare.) pillaging (Subjective and vague. Has been done in several other MMOs to same extent as DF) 300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history (Absurd... Many other MMOs including some F2P have had battles much bigger) 100's of skills (Subjective and not entirely true. If you include passive skills MMOs like WOW and EQII have as many if not more skills... completely misleading.) no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III (Actually misleading, power of spell increases with active skill rank and other schools have similar if not exact same spells with different damage types.) catch my drift simple? Not seeing anything incredibly earth shattering... If it is the best for you I am happy for you. However it is all subjective and should be stated as such. k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. This made me laugh... Put your epeen away son... you are going to hurt yourself.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
Hopefully they add animations to go along with better / different skills. Not just for the graphic whores or people who don't want to get mind numbingly bored, it helps with pvp. If you run around and see this guy pvping and just overhead swinging, how do you know he is doing skill 1 or skill 50? Sure damage is different but right now that's it. You can cut/paste skills 50x over and say here are 50 skills enjoy. That doesn't mean there really are 50 skills. Ive never played the game so take it for what it is, however from every single video it looks this way.
Everyone just keeps saying it's because they are newbs but everyone knows macroing is in the game atm and if you guys can kill dragons already, i'm sure someone has seen most of the skills already. Or are dragons easy to kill? (serious question)
Well you dont really know if his skills 1 or 50, but that is part of the experience of skill based games. You dont know what your enemies are. Hell, a mage can bust out a sword just to throw you off if they wanted to.
But a skill being 1-50 and 50 skills are completely different things. The majority of skills are thru spells not just melee moves, because you have to understand that characters are not restricted to choosing 1 or the other. Their restrictions are based upon which they train - you pick one and then you will not be able to train the "polar opposite" ones.
When it comes to macros, sure they are in game, that has also been a problem with skill-based games. Even Oblivion had the same problem. But macros wont make you "kill" better neccessarily. I believe melee skills do NOT go up until your actually hitting someone, so a macro wont do them any good. Furthermore, spell components are spent and are not exactly cheap, would be pretty lame if you tried to macro that and came back to a broke character with no components lol. If your not making money back while you use those components your basically just wasting money. and sure they can cast spells over and over but I believe you need to hit targets with the offense spells to make those go up as well.
Finally, if you want to see what the skills in the game are really like, just click that link I have in my earlier post - its a full spell list that was current at the end of january, so while it may be outdated, youll get an idea of what it is like.
darkfall = immersion (Your personal opinion) no autolock (You just described several other MMOs and all FPS) free loot (Actually valid) sandbox (arguable... static placement of cities/towns/buildings. Difficult if not impossible to be a non-combatant) vendors (Is in every MMO... grats on this being pointless) building (Same as vendors above...) ships (Has been done before, but I will give this to you since it is rare.) pillaging (Subjective and vague. Has been done in several other MMOs to same extent as DF) 300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history (Absurd... Many other MMOs including some F2P have had battles much bigger) 100's of skills (Subjective and not entirely true. If you include passive skills MMOs like WOW and EQII have as many if not more skills... completely misleading.) no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III (Actually misleading, power of spell increases with active skill rank and other schools have similar if not exact same spells with different damage types.) catch my drift simple? Not seeing anything incredibly earth shattering... If it is the best for you I am happy for you. However it is all subjective and should be stated as such. k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. This made me laugh... Put your epeen away son... you are going to hurt yourself.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
well over 100 spells, yet all we EVER see is mana missile and once in a blue moon, heal self?
wow. pretty elite there.
that new mmo standard must be pushing back graphics and animations to about 1996ish. yes, very OLD generation there.
please.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
darkfall = immersion (Your personal opinion) no autolock (You just described several other MMOs and all FPS) free loot (Actually valid) sandbox (arguable... static placement of cities/towns/buildings. Difficult if not impossible to be a non-combatant) vendors (Is in every MMO... grats on this being pointless) building (Same as vendors above...) ships (Has been done before, but I will give this to you since it is rare.) pillaging (Subjective and vague. Has been done in several other MMOs to same extent as DF) 300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history (Absurd... Many other MMOs including some F2P have had battles much bigger) 100's of skills (Subjective and not entirely true. If you include passive skills MMOs like WOW and EQII have as many if not more skills... completely misleading.) no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III (Actually misleading, power of spell increases with active skill rank and other schools have similar if not exact same spells with different damage types.) catch my drift simple? Not seeing anything incredibly earth shattering... If it is the best for you I am happy for you. However it is all subjective and should be stated as such. k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. This made me laugh... Put your epeen away son... you are going to hurt yourself.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
well over 100 spells, yet all we EVER see is mana missile and once in a blue moon, heal self?
wow. pretty elite there.
that new mmo standard must be pushing back graphics and animations to about 1996ish. yes, very OLD generation there.
please.
Dude, I linked a spell list and mentioned it in both my posts.
If you want to be ignorant and belligerent, then that's fine and noone will bother paying you any attention. If you really want to see what is offered, look.
While I agree the animations arent all that, the biggest complaints are in run animations, and in all honesty they arent very different from the Orcs run animation in WoW...
(Edit: Here's an example - go to about 1:40 and can you honestly say that run is not almost exact to WoW Orcs?
Haters are really going out of their way to post ignorant bullshit here.
But the fact remains, Darkfall is a unique MMO experience and is the best mmo currently on the market.
I know a lot of ppl love EVE, and I can see their point, but the fact remains Eve's combat system has turned down many would be players, cementing the game as a largely strategic MMORPG, wheras Darkfall retains a solid action gameplay WITH advanced strategic combat, and logistical clan vs clan elements.
Darkfall is a fun game, I played beta but I have not played release at all.
I love the open world and the combat but Darkfall is nothing but PvP. Very little to do outside of PvP and that is just not for me. The world is empty. (I am sure that will come with time).
Darkfall is for the hardcore PvP crowd that wants 100% pvp all the time. I think Darkfall will be popular enough and it will be a successful MMO but to say its the "Best" is pure opinion as is everything I have said here.
We the gaming community need to stop acting like our opinion is fact.
Haters are really going out of their way to post ignorant bullshit here.
But the fact remains, Darkfall is a unique MMO experience and is the best mmo currently on the market.
I know a lot of ppl love EVE, and I can see their point, but the fact remains Eve's combat system has turned down many would be players, cementing the game as a largely strategic MMORPG, wheras Darkfall retains a solid action gameplay WITH advanced strategic combat, and logistical clan vs clan elements.
-Darkstar
Darkfall does not have Strategic combat. The combat is FPS but not Strategic at all. The person that puts the most time in the game will be the winner in any 1v1 fight. The skill system is a huge grind and combat is more about potions then player skill.
Darkfall is not a perfect game. It is a fun PvP game but that is it. Darkfall prompts player skill and player choice and has niether. I cannot choose what skills I want without taking a bunch of skills that I do not want. Player skill? Yea right, its all about potions, the one with the most potions wins. Farming for potions is easy and can be done with a Macro.
In the end Darkfall is a fun game but not for me and thats fine. Maybe one day they will make a game like Darkfall with more of a PvE focus. I like PvP but I need good PvE to go with my PvP or I get bored quickly.
However the amount of hacking/exploits in this game so close to release is totally insane.
Want to loose hours of work and all your gear then play this game atm. So many cheats is unbelievable and so many people cheating makes me think whats up with the world today that they cant even play a game fairly.
Anyone chooses to dissagre is an idiot atm as I play it and see it all the time.
nealry a decade in development and this amount of hacks already..
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Why we should play an FPS for enjoyable combat ..
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
You missed out. Darkfall doesn't hold a candle to planetside.
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
What a bunch of sad people think I somehow need to explain in detail my love for this game and defend it from your accusations. I'm not going to jump into that wagon thanks.
You know you guys are not going to enjoy any MMO ever. Your here camping the MMO's forum you hate the most and bashing it with all your strenght. What a bunch of sad bandas.
You don't know what you want thats your problem and you can't let go of all your vanity thinking how everything is supposed to be.
R.I.P Chikaca Whachuchu
Why we should play an FPS for enjoyable combat ..
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
You missed out. Darkfall doesn't hold a candle to planetside.
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
Watch the videos. Some of thoes ARE 400+ players at one battle. 28+ weapons, 38+ vehicles. With planes, tanks, mechs, buggys, dropships, 100% PvP.
Darkfall has 2 swings and a blue ball.
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I agree completely. Now I remember why I stopped coming here... yay for various other forums!
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Why we should play an FPS for enjoyable combat ..
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
You missed out. Darkfall doesn't hold a candle to planetside.
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
Watch the videos. Some of thoes ARE 400+ players at one battle. 28+ weapons, 38+ vehicles. With planes, tanks, mechs, buggys, dropships, 100% PvP.
Darkfall has 2 swings and a blue ball.
But is $ONY and $OE i have no business with these criminals, anymore , since November 15 2005, the NGE day..
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$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Why we should play an FPS for enjoyable combat ..
From now on ..there is an option within the MMORPG genre for that . I am happy i dont have to play an additionally Action/Singleplayer/FPS game anymore (Mount and Blade) and can concetrate my whole time into one place .. For my MMORPG fix and my twitched combat fix now there is a optimal solution ..
Yep, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
Never played it ..and now too late ..i already have fun with DarkFall and in next years i have a home ..
You missed out. Darkfall doesn't hold a candle to planetside.
Read my post above .-.NO MONEY TO $OE SUCKERS..they have put the NGE on me..
Watch the videos. Some of thoes ARE 400+ players at one battle. 28+ weapons, 38+ vehicles. With planes, tanks, mechs, buggys, dropships, 100% PvP.
Darkfall has 2 swings and a blue ball.
It's a waste of time, they will only tighten down the blinders and continue to whistle.
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I agree! Darkfall has set up a new level for the MMO genre. This is it, Darkfall has set the point for the rest of MMO history, where MMOs will be classified as pre-Darkfall or post-Darkfall. The new era has NOTHING to do with the old MMOs, this is something else, that has to be experienced to believe. Tasos will be giving conferences around the world, MILLIONS will play Darkfall, and if they don't it's because they are not real MMO players.
HALLELUJA!!!
"Hmm ok guys get the stamina potions and lets press left mouse button with no end attacking those suckers. Hope everybody macroed their skills to the max.. Good. Lets go. We are legend."
I havent played DF yet, but I find it quite intriguing that....
The majority of people who say comments like this have not even played the game.
Irony at its best.
altair all you do is come to these boards and complain about the game your not interested in playing.
My blog:
I do too agree that it is one of the best mmo's.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Most of them are NOT passive as well.
You may want to check this out - darkfallnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/full-darkfall-spell-list.html - this is fairly outdated as well, so things have only improved.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
Next thing you know he will be telling everyone to drink from a cup so they can all commit mass suicide together.
/wait isn't that what cults do?
//Is darkfall a cult?
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Most of them are NOT passive as well.
You may want to check this out - darkfallnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/full-darkfall-spell-list.html - this is fairly outdated as well, so things have only improved.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
Hopefully they add animations to go along with better / different skills. Not just for the graphic whores or people who don't want to get mind numbingly bored, it helps with pvp. If you run around and see this guy pvping and just overhead swinging, how do you know he is doing skill 1 or skill 50? Sure damage is different but right now that's it. You can cut/paste skills 50x over and say here are 50 skills enjoy. That doesn't mean there really are 50 skills. Ive never played the game so take it for what it is, however from every single video it looks this way.
Everyone just keeps saying it's because they are newbs but everyone knows macroing is in the game atm and if you guys can kill dragons already, i'm sure someone has seen most of the skills already. Or are dragons easy to kill? (serious question)
He's not the first or last that will honestly feel that Darkfall is the best ever. I totally agree with him and have played every mainstream MMO out there and most of the top FPS.
MMO always meant an easy, cerebral game to me, and FPS meant action, but no permanence. Now I feel like I have both and I've played it back into beta, so longer than the two weeks.
I'd agree with him that this game is not mainstream, not for everyone. You have to like sandbox over storyline, PvP over PvE and you have to care less about what loot you get than what adventure you have.
Asdar
No its not.
i guess he'd have a heart attack if he knew there existed a game where 500 v 500 battles were an every day occurence... or where 1000 v 1000 battles happen... or where fights for land/sovereignty have gone on for literal years...
where there are weapons of war which take, a literal YEAR to create, are worth the equivalent (quite literally) of six THOUSAND U.S. dollars and can be lost in the blink of an eye due to incompetent flight commanders?
indeed, a game of this MAGNITUDE would probably make isamright33's heart explode out of his body...
HARDCORE FFA PVP is a game where when you die... you lose ALL of your armor and a big chunk of everything you carried... and what can be looted is whatever is left that hasn't been utterly destroyed after the dust settles.
indeed, darkfall has a long way to go until it reaches the majestic heights of LARGE scale warfare with REAL consequences.
but, what do you expect from a bunch of noobs that have never played a real game?
he'll learn one day, mr bloodworth... mayber.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
You came here first, and created this thread for what other purpose besides to elicit exactly the reaction you got.
You can't post in any game on this forum that the game you like is the best game evah without getting a dozen people to disagree with you, that's why forums exist, to dicuss and argue about games.
Since you chose to do so, you are guilty of as many sins as the people you are decrying, and certainly not deserving of any sort of sympathy.
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Sorry I can't take you serious since you didn't play AC1 on Darktide.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Most of them are NOT passive as well.
You may want to check this out - darkfallnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/full-darkfall-spell-list.html - this is fairly outdated as well, so things have only improved.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
Hopefully they add animations to go along with better / different skills. Not just for the graphic whores or people who don't want to get mind numbingly bored, it helps with pvp. If you run around and see this guy pvping and just overhead swinging, how do you know he is doing skill 1 or skill 50? Sure damage is different but right now that's it. You can cut/paste skills 50x over and say here are 50 skills enjoy. That doesn't mean there really are 50 skills. Ive never played the game so take it for what it is, however from every single video it looks this way.
Everyone just keeps saying it's because they are newbs but everyone knows macroing is in the game atm and if you guys can kill dragons already, i'm sure someone has seen most of the skills already. Or are dragons easy to kill? (serious question)
Well you dont really know if his skills 1 or 50, but that is part of the experience of skill based games. You dont know what your enemies are. Hell, a mage can bust out a sword just to throw you off if they wanted to.
But a skill being 1-50 and 50 skills are completely different things. The majority of skills are thru spells not just melee moves, because you have to understand that characters are not restricted to choosing 1 or the other. Their restrictions are based upon which they train - you pick one and then you will not be able to train the "polar opposite" ones.
When it comes to macros, sure they are in game, that has also been a problem with skill-based games. Even Oblivion had the same problem. But macros wont make you "kill" better neccessarily. I believe melee skills do NOT go up until your actually hitting someone, so a macro wont do them any good. Furthermore, spell components are spent and are not exactly cheap, would be pretty lame if you tried to macro that and came back to a broke character with no components lol. If your not making money back while you use those components your basically just wasting money. and sure they can cast spells over and over but I believe you need to hit targets with the offense spells to make those go up as well.
Finally, if you want to see what the skills in the game are really like, just click that link I have in my earlier post - its a full spell list that was current at the end of january, so while it may be outdated, youll get an idea of what it is like.
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Most of them are NOT passive as well.
You may want to check this out - darkfallnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/full-darkfall-spell-list.html - this is fairly outdated as well, so things have only improved.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
well over 100 spells, yet all we EVER see is mana missile and once in a blue moon, heal self?
wow. pretty elite there.
that new mmo standard must be pushing back graphics and animations to about 1996ish. yes, very OLD generation there.
please.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
To the OP... I am glad the game is what you have been looking for. I never knock anyone for something that is subjective and I hope you have many long months and years of enjoyment from the game. If they make some changes to the combat depth you may get to try and kill me at some point in the future.
Some of your comments are not entirely true. There are well over 100 spells, pretty sure over 150 as well, havent counted them but probably near 200.
Sure, most of them have a projectile, but that is because they are aimed, and most of them have different effects, unless you count the "upgrades" from the same school. Even the ones that are similar, have drastically different mana costs and traveling speeds, so useable in different situations.
Most of them are NOT passive as well.
You may want to check this out - darkfallnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/full-darkfall-spell-list.html - this is fairly outdated as well, so things have only improved.
Also, about combat depth, you may not have realized but all characters are "hybrids" so all of those "Straight melee" characters you are seeing in videos will most likely be adding some sort of variety to their arsenal soon enough, once they max out their weapon skills. For example, from the first spell tree alone, "Come Hither" could be immensely valuable to a melee character for obvious reasons. Also, there are "polar opposites" in the spell trees, so every character actually does have quite a few decisions for customization, as well as a large amount of time to train in to them all.
Coming from games like AC, the skill system is fairly similar, and it is quite decieving how much depth the combat in games that have these sorts of skill systems.
well over 100 spells, yet all we EVER see is mana missile and once in a blue moon, heal self?
wow. pretty elite there.
that new mmo standard must be pushing back graphics and animations to about 1996ish. yes, very OLD generation there.
please.
Dude, I linked a spell list and mentioned it in both my posts.
If you want to be ignorant and belligerent, then that's fine and noone will bother paying you any attention. If you really want to see what is offered, look.
While I agree the animations arent all that, the biggest complaints are in run animations, and in all honesty they arent very different from the Orcs run animation in WoW...
(Edit: Here's an example - go to about 1:40 and can you honestly say that run is not almost exact to WoW Orcs?
www.youtube.com/watch
Gotta agree with the OP.
Haters are really going out of their way to post ignorant bullshit here.
But the fact remains, Darkfall is a unique MMO experience and is the best mmo currently on the market.
I know a lot of ppl love EVE, and I can see their point, but the fact remains Eve's combat system has turned down many would be players, cementing the game as a largely strategic MMORPG, wheras Darkfall retains a solid action gameplay WITH advanced strategic combat, and logistical clan vs clan elements.
-Darkstar
Darkfall is a fun game, I played beta but I have not played release at all.
I love the open world and the combat but Darkfall is nothing but PvP. Very little to do outside of PvP and that is just not for me. The world is empty. (I am sure that will come with time).
Darkfall is for the hardcore PvP crowd that wants 100% pvp all the time. I think Darkfall will be popular enough and it will be a successful MMO but to say its the "Best" is pure opinion as is everything I have said here.
We the gaming community need to stop acting like our opinion is fact.
Sooner or Later
Darkfall does not have Strategic combat. The combat is FPS but not Strategic at all. The person that puts the most time in the game will be the winner in any 1v1 fight. The skill system is a huge grind and combat is more about potions then player skill.
Darkfall is not a perfect game. It is a fun PvP game but that is it. Darkfall prompts player skill and player choice and has niether. I cannot choose what skills I want without taking a bunch of skills that I do not want. Player skill? Yea right, its all about potions, the one with the most potions wins. Farming for potions is easy and can be done with a Macro.
In the end Darkfall is a fun game but not for me and thats fine. Maybe one day they will make a game like Darkfall with more of a PvE focus. I like PvP but I need good PvE to go with my PvP or I get bored quickly.
Sooner or Later
Good fun game, not that involved but great pvp.
However the amount of hacking/exploits in this game so close to release is totally insane.
Want to loose hours of work and all your gear then play this game atm. So many cheats is unbelievable and so many people cheating makes me think whats up with the world today that they cant even play a game fairly.
Anyone chooses to dissagre is an idiot atm as I play it and see it all the time.
nealry a decade in development and this amount of hacks already..