What a bunch of sad people think I somehow need to explain in detail my love for this game and defend it from your accusations. I'm not going to jump into that wagon thanks. You know you guys are not going to enjoy any MMO ever. Your here camping the MMO's forum you hate the most and bashing it with all your strenght. What a bunch of sad bandas. You don't know what you want thats your problem and you can't let go of all your vanity thinking how everything is supposed to be.
I think Murdus is /sacastic. DF is obviously not built for mass market. It does not appear to be revolutionary in any way. I got the feeling that DF is trying to capture a small sector of the market that does not find enough coverage from the average MMOs. As such, it anchors itself on the portion of the MMO market relatively abandoned or ignored by the major MMO developers. No way the DF formulae will be copied by other developers, as that part of the market is small, unreliable, and one company tapping it already exhausting the market potential. With Eve solidly entrenched in the open pvp games corner of the MMO market, DF will have to present itself as a viable alternate in the fantasy realm. Luckily dwarves and elves sells better in the MMO market than laser beams and flying boats. Should Eve be swords and magic instead, I wonder if DF can find any followers. That said, DF does have a chance at its own segment, so long as it can hold the zeal of the PVPers who prefer a bow to a laser gun. It does not start well, but till a real competitor shows up, it can still try to corner that small portion of the MMO market.
I was not sure if he was being sarcastic or not.
I see Darkfall taking little to none from the EVE community. Although the PvP similarities are there. The Sci-fi genre is not. I believe most of the EVE subscribers are there for the lazers and flying space boats as you put it. Both games are trying to reach out to a niche community. Darkfall being elfs, swords and magic. EVE being corporations, lasers, ships and space.
ccp (creators of eve) are working on the World of Darkness MMO. i have every confidence that it will be an eve'ian version of sword & sorcery / fantasy.
honestly -- will that be good? picture eve, but not sci-fi, instead fantasy, with werewolves, vampires, mages, etc...
doesn't get much more indie than CCP... i just wonder if the world of darkness mmo will be the same price as eve --- $20?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I don't like to play games that are just purely about killing and if I DO it has to have a really impressive combat system, Darkfall has nothing on that.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Thats right! No matter the issues it's having atm with ordering and what not, but it's HANDS DOWN THE MOST IMMERSIVE mmorpg experience I have ever had! I will not touch another autolock target game EVER again. Darkfall leads the way to a new MMO era! ABOUT TIME! It's simply beautiful open world thrilling brutal exciting experience. No other MMO have given me such feeling of danger, awareness and freedom I fell in love! I for sure had my doubts about this game but I have played since launch and I'm completely addicted! Never have I been so excited about a new MMO. For the record I have played MMO's since 1999 EQ, DAoC, GW, WOW, EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, WAR.. and other lesser mmo's not even worth mentioning. I suggest everyone to try it don't judge until you have given it a try! It's not for everyone, but definitely worth a try!
what in the world are you talking about? you've seriously never played an FPS?
why is the game not for everyone? i mean, i know people who are graphics whores and sticklers for trivial things like good animations (which bad animations break immersion for a LOT of people, far moreso than bad/dated graphics), probably won't like it.
eve and any fps has excitement and adrenaline and blah blah blah.
what about the game is so wonderful?
i'm being dead serious. how are you immersed, do you simply pretend that the horrid animations don't exist? is it the clunky interface/movement that somehow you ignore so as to not break your immersion?
I LOVE CHEESE! cheese is great! if you've only drunk milk - you have to try cheese, it's the best food ever! I especially love cheese that is yellow! <<< that's your review, only turned to cheese instead of for darkfall... did you learn anything about cheese or why it's so wonderful? that's what i've learned about darkfall from your post.
let me break it down for you Mr. Simple dimple
darkfall = immersion
no autolock
free loot
sandbox
vendors
building
ships
pillaging
300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history
100's of skills
no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III
catch my drift simple?
k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray.
Darkfall does not = immersion
Darkfall can be immersive but it can not = immersion.
Besides auto lock everything has been done before. There are vendors in EQ1, EQ2, Vanguard, WoW, WAR, AOC, etc...
There are ships in many of those games as well, maybe not player owned but there are ships.
Pillaging can be anything. Destroying a building? Didn't that start in DAOC? WoW has that now too!. WAR has that.
Free loot as in its given to you for free? Sounds like a bug to me.
No auto lock so its an RPGFPS. That is nothing new, the MMO part added on maybe but the rest no. Ever played Gunz? Its not seemless but its an RPGFPS against other people, only PvP too!!
100+ skills, well i would argue there are close to 100+ skills in EQ1, EQ2, Vanguard, WoW, WAR, AOC, etc... as well. O and the same skill for a different type of weapon does not count for a different skill. Same skill different weapon.
And there is Magic Missle 1, and 2 and 3 and 4. Its just named differently and its what ever the name of the attack level1 level2 level3 level 4 and so on till it is maxed out. Yes magic missle and iceblast of doom 2000 are the same.
Next time you make a post try and explain things, all you did was post badly written bulletin of garbage thats already in games.
I agree with you but their are a couple of things that you forgot to put in your post.
NON AUTO LOCK ...has been done before and the dev team who have done it ,have a far better combat system than DF will ever have. www.youtube.com/watch
Player owned SHIPS HAVE BEEN IN VG FOR TWO YEARS..these ships make DF look like ants.The next update will see ship being used for quests and many other things.
Every ship you see in this vid is in VG now and can be crafted by a shipwright.
FFA loot..well vanguard has a FFA server where i can kill anyone at anytime including guildmates and groups mates. I can't loot there armour but i can loot ALL the gold/coins or cash they have on them.
VG world is a lot bigger and more beautiful than DF hands down DF CANNOT COME CLOSE TO VG WORLD.
VG gas real time player housing and imense guildhalls and player citys that can be contructed around the guildhall with crafting shops and vendors.www.youtube.com/watch
The only thing that VG does not have is total full loot and a skill bases system. I can level up crafting or politics without ever killing anything or anyone. I don't have to kill another npc or player in VG at all.
Weather in DF looks ok but nothing i have seen comes close to VG weather..
Player owned SHIPS HAVE BEEN IN VG FOR TWO YEARS..these ships make DF look like ants.The next update will see ship being used for quests and many other things.
Every ship you see in this vid is in VG now and can be crafted by a shipwright.
FFA loot..well vanguard has a FFA server where i can kill anyone at anytime including guildmates and groups mates. I can't loot there armour but i can loot ALL the gold/coins or cash they have on them.
VG world is a lot bigger and more beautiful than DF hands down DF CANNOT COME CLOSE TO VG WORLD.
VG gas real time player housing and imense guildhalls and player citys that can be contructed around the guildhall with crafting shops and vendors.www.youtube.com/watch
The only thing that VG does not have is total full loot and a skill bases system. I can level up crafting or politics without ever killing anything or anyone. I don't have to kill another npc or player in VG at all.
Weather in DF looks ok but nothing i have seen comes close to VG weather..
Player owned SHIPS HAVE BEEN IN VG FOR TWO YEARS..these ships make DF look like ants.The next update will see ship being used for quests and many other things.
Every ship you see in this vid is in VG now and can be crafted by a shipwright.
FFA loot..well vanguard has a FFA server where i can kill anyone at anytime including guildmates and groups mates. I can't loot there armour but i can loot ALL the gold/coins or cash they have on them.
VG world is a lot bigger and more beautiful than DF hands down DF CANNOT COME CLOSE TO VG WORLD.
VG gas real time player housing and imense guildhalls and player citys that can be contructed around the guildhall with crafting shops and vendors.www.youtube.com/watch
The only thing that VG does not have is total full loot and a skill bases system. I can level up crafting or politics without ever killing anything or anyone. I don't have to kill another npc or player in VG at all.
Weather in DF looks ok but nothing i have seen comes close to VG weather..
Also you forget the fact that VG is owned by Sony, which already is a reason not to play
But jokes aside..I really wonder what some people, like damian7 etc. are trying to get over here? If you dont like the game, leave us alone and play eve or whatever... ! I am sorry but you fail to realize that there are many people out there who actually love this game. In your eyes it really seems to be wrong to like a game, which you don't like... thats pathetic...!?
Darkfall ist one of the most unique games released within in the last 10 years, if you dont think so than go back to what you came from... all the people who got into it now and are actually playing it love it so far, I guess that is reason alone to say its a good game?
The next thing is that even though many may say Aventurine is a bad company, I actually totally disagree... they may not communitcate as much as others (even though I can understand that, since the game is already overrun anyway...). They can start PR once they have ironed out most issues and are having enough servers to keep up with the demand.
But instead of communicating to the little crying childs on the forum, they are actually working around the clock to make the game better and better... but many people are blind and many people are not major enough to understand that... they always think they know everything better and would do everything better... its just ridiculous! First they call them vaporware and they can never pull this off, now they do and now they say how they should do different... just lol.
I rather give them my money instead of any of the big companies, who just work for their monthly income instead of their passion to create a game...
They never announced the game openly, except in their forums (for their true supporters, you would have guessed), so if you fail to realize for what you have paid, you should stick with a different company. I paid them to give them them my support, and for me it was clear that it will take some time till the game runs smoothly (even though its already in a much better state I ever though of - not comparable to the failed projects like Wish, Horizons, Mourning etc.)
Kind regards,
LD
Currently playing: Archeage Waiting for: Black Desert
Also you forget the fact that VG is owned by Sony, which already is a reason not to play
But jokes aside..I really wonder what some people, like damian7 etc. are trying to get over here? If you dont like the game, leave us alone and play eve or whatever... ! I am sorry but you fail to realize that there are many people out there who actually love this game. In your eyes it really seems to be wrong to like a game, which you don't like... thats pathetic...!?
isn't that what i've been saying to darktards, who insisted on spamming the internet, for the past year?
darkfall is a hardcore ffa pvp full loot game --- NO QQ'ing, not even on the forums.
seriously, lose the whining and crying.
cowboy up or go play a pve game.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Also you forget the fact that VG is owned by Sony, which already is a reason not to play
But jokes aside..I really wonder what some people, like damian7 etc. are trying to get over here? If you dont like the game, leave us alone and play eve or whatever... ! I am sorry but you fail to realize that there are many people out there who actually love this game. In your eyes it really seems to be wrong to like a game, which you don't like... thats pathetic...!?
isn't that what i've been saying to darktards, who insisted on spamming the internet, for the past year?
darkfall is a hardcore ffa pvp full loot game --- NO QQ'ing, not even on the forums.
The reason there is somuch hate here is simple. People can't stand it that you have found a mmo you enjoy (wether the fun last for a long time or not is a different topic) and that you can look beyond some of the aspects that are mediocre or even bad. The same people are those that are waiting year upon year for some unrealistic perfect mmo of their dreams. Not gona happen, if you ever want to enjoy mmo's again you should get used to making compromises. No I am not playing DF and I am not a 'fanboy' so stfu.
1 incessant darkfall fanboi trolling all over the net for the past year.
2 half the features STILL listed on the darkfallonline.com site have been scrapped from the game. essentially all the items that REALLY set the game apart.
3 arrogant, condescending attitude (as seen in interviews and postings) by av staff.
4 people hailing items that have been in most ALL MMOs for the past 4+ years, as revolutionary and next generation. wouldn't next generation mean that they weren't in games that have been out for the past 4+ years and they were... o i dunno, NEW?
5 revolutionary mob AI is simply making the distance mobs spot you farther out? wow, that's idiotic to even make that statement. let's look at the hated wow.... mobs that run when they're badly hurt - check. mobs that go get their buddies to help fight you - check. mobs that you can not attack (and damage) from a position in which they can not attack back - check.
6 funky/junk animations, dated graphics, bad sound
i could go on... but seriously, if you haven't picked up on all of those items (or whomever hasn't picked up on those)... what's the point? no trolling of fanboi-ing needed.
haha yet you incessantly post on this forum about it.
you waste so much of your life hateing a video game. do you not see how pathetic that is?
sort of like you darkfall trolls who have pestered every forum for the past year.... even before this dated game was released in a pay-to-play beta state?
yet... you can not deny the items i post, you simply troll me and make personal attacks.
pity.
I have never posted on a single other forum about darkfall.
you are making yourself look like a total tool. stop now.
it is not our fault that you have to post here. put the fucking keyboard down and go do something. play your goddamned EVE...
Darkfall is the only mmo I would not consider playing, no offense but I just have no idea what drives people to this game.
1. I want to level up, not just build my skills. I want both. You killed me with the concept that "You can do anything in Darkfall." Anything but level up.
2. I love innovation, but also prefer direction and purpose. I love lots to do but it has to be fun enough to make me want to do them. I pay to play not to work, I already work to get paid. I don’t need a second job.
3. I prefer less hype and more substance. I haven't seen one thing about this game that interests me in the slightest.
I'm glad there is a fan base for this game as I like to see and test new things. I've been looking for a good reason to try this game and I haven't found one yet. I've read many comments about the game and still, the love some people have for this game clearly isn't there for others. Bah who knows... It took me 3 years before giving City of Heroes a shot so I might one day come around, just not today.
Thats right! No matter the issues it's having atm with ordering and what not, but it's HANDS DOWN THE MOST IMMERSIVE mmorpg experience I have ever had! I will not touch another autolock target game EVER again. Darkfall leads the way to a new MMO era! ABOUT TIME! It's simply beautiful open world thrilling brutal exciting experience. No other MMO have given me such feeling of danger, awareness and freedom I fell in love! I for sure had my doubts about this game but I have played since launch and I'm completely addicted! Never have I been so excited about a new MMO. For the record I have played MMO's since 1999 EQ, DAoC, GW, WOW, EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, WAR.. and other lesser mmo's not even worth mentioning. I suggest everyone to try it don't judge until you have given it a try! It's not for everyone, but definitely worth a try!
what in the world are you talking about? you've seriously never played an FPS?
why is the game not for everyone? i mean, i know people who are graphics whores and sticklers for trivial things like good animations (which bad animations break immersion for a LOT of people, far moreso than bad/dated graphics), probably won't like it.
eve and any fps has excitement and adrenaline and blah blah blah.
what about the game is so wonderful?
i'm being dead serious. how are you immersed, do you simply pretend that the horrid animations don't exist? is it the clunky interface/movement that somehow you ignore so as to not break your immersion?
I LOVE CHEESE! cheese is great! if you've only drunk milk - you have to try cheese, it's the best food ever! I especially love cheese that is yellow! <<< that's your review, only turned to cheese instead of for darkfall... did you learn anything about cheese or why it's so wonderful? that's what i've learned about darkfall from your post.
let me break it down for you Mr. Simple dimple
darkfall = immersion
no autolock - Personally find this to be overrated, as every time I've seen it implemented, it's resulted in players hopping and running around like rabbits on crack. Every video I've seen of PvP in DF involves people chasing each other around swinging madly in full-on Benny Hill mode, or spamming blue rings at each other. Not sure how that builds immersion, but okay. To each their own.
free loot - How does free loot provide immersion? Especially when you're looting it from a gravestone that magically appears after the player's corpse magically disappears? That would be more "suspension of disbelief" than immersion, to me.
sandbox - Sandbox design doesn't provide any more immersion by itself than any other design.
vendors - All MMOs have vendors. They're automated buy-and-sell machines.
300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history - Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Do your research before making comments like that. 300+ battles are *not* new in the industry. At all.
100's of skills - How does number of skills = immersion?
no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III - No, instead of pre-defined levels of strength (bolt I, II, etc), the progression is continuous. But it comes down to the same thing... spells becoming more powerful. It's just a different way of unlocking it.
k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. - You've "schooled" no-one.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
(Edit: Here's an example - go to about 1:40 and can you honestly say that run is not almost exact to WoW Orcs? www.youtube.com/watch
I can say it's not almost exact. It's not even close. The rough motion is same - a lumbering, "heavy" run, as you'd expect from a large, hulking orc. However, that's where it ends. The nuance and overall quality of the animation work in DF is nowhere even close.
From what I've seen in that video, and some others.. aside from a *slight* side to side rotation, the upper half of the orc in DF is completely stiff.
The animation in WoW is much more fluid, more nuanced, has primary and secondary motion and is overall much more polished. Practically the whole character is animated in some way, however subtle (which is where secondary motion comes in).
DF's animations look as though they basically achieved the bare minimum required and called it "done".
It's fair to say that DF's animations are "functional", as in "they get the job done". Overall, though, trying to compare DF's animations to WoW's is pretty moot. They're not even in the same ballpark.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history
No its not.
i guess he'd have a heart attack if he knew there existed a game where 500 v 500 battles were an every day occurence... or where 1000 v 1000 battles happen... or where fights for land/sovereignty have gone on for literal years...
where there are weapons of war which take, a literal YEAR to create, are worth the equivalent (quite literally) of six THOUSAND U.S. dollars and can be lost in the blink of an eye due to incompetent flight commanders?
indeed, a game of this MAGNITUDE would probably make isamright33's heart explode out of his body...
HARDCORE FFA PVP is a game where when you die... you lose ALL of your armor and a big chunk of everything you carried... and what can be looted is whatever is left that hasn't been utterly destroyed after the dust settles.
indeed, darkfall has a long way to go until it reaches the majestic heights of LARGE scale warfare with REAL consequences.
but, what do you expect from a bunch of noobs that have never played a real game?
he'll learn one day, mr bloodworth... mayber.
I am just pointing out the fact here that you can see all 300 characters with no slowdown in frames....k now your turn to name me a game that has done this.
All ready did, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
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Darkfall is the only mmo I would not consider playing, no offense but I just have no idea what drives people to this game. 1. I want to level up, not just build my skills. I want both. You killed me with the concept that "You can do anything in Darkfall." Anything but level up. 2. I love innovation, but also prefer direction and purpose. I love lots to do but it has to be fun enough to make me want to do them. I pay to play not to work, I already work to get paid. I don’t need a second job. 3. I prefer less hype and more substance. I haven't seen one thing about this game that interests me in the slightest. I'm glad there is a fan base for this game as I like to see and test new things. I've been looking for a good reason to try this game and I haven't found one yet. I've read many comments about the game and still, the love some people have for this game clearly isn't there for others. Bah who knows... It took me 3 years before giving City of Heroes a shot so I might one day come around, just not today.
Your right then. This game definitely is not for you. The thing is there have been numerous games on the market that cater to exactly those things you mentioned. However, nothing recent has been released that offers what Darkfall does.
Thats right! No matter the issues it's having atm with ordering and what not, but it's HANDS DOWN THE MOST IMMERSIVE mmorpg experience I have ever had! I will not touch another autolock target game EVER again. Darkfall leads the way to a new MMO era! ABOUT TIME! It's simply beautiful open world thrilling brutal exciting experience. No other MMO have given me such feeling of danger, awareness and freedom I fell in love! I for sure had my doubts about this game but I have played since launch and I'm completely addicted! Never have I been so excited about a new MMO. For the record I have played MMO's since 1999 EQ, DAoC, GW, WOW, EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, WAR.. and other lesser mmo's not even worth mentioning. I suggest everyone to try it don't judge until you have given it a try! It's not for everyone, but definitely worth a try!
Nothing new about first person shooter games. They've been around a long time. I like to play first person shooters sometimes.
But I also like to play RPG"s sometimes as well. Both types of games are fun, IMO.
However, I like to play FPS games in short bursts. They wear out my fingers more quickly than an RPG.
Shadowbane in its prime, I can remember being in several 200+ on each side sieges.
Uhhhh, ya. They also ground to halt, crashed to desktop, and were unfortunately "broken". Not sure what your point is there. If you are trying to say there are other games that have done 300+, there are many better examples.
Thats right! No matter the issues it's having atm with ordering and what not, but it's HANDS DOWN THE MOST IMMERSIVE mmorpg experience I have ever had! I will not touch another autolock target game EVER again. Darkfall leads the way to a new MMO era! ABOUT TIME! It's simply beautiful open world thrilling brutal exciting experience. No other MMO have given me such feeling of danger, awareness and freedom I fell in love! I for sure had my doubts about this game but I have played since launch and I'm completely addicted! Never have I been so excited about a new MMO. For the record I have played MMO's since 1999 EQ, DAoC, GW, WOW, EQ2, Vanguard, AoC, WAR.. and other lesser mmo's not even worth mentioning. I suggest everyone to try it don't judge until you have given it a try! It's not for everyone, but definitely worth a try!
It's because of folk like you, that companies such as Aventurine and Funcom are able to con people into buying unfinished, garbage products.
Why is anything remotely detrimental removed from their forums? Funcom tried this approach as well...
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This movie made me lol
That post should be sticky on this forum.
The boat part was pretty hilarious.
I was not sure if he was being sarcastic or not.
I see Darkfall taking little to none from the EVE community. Although the PvP similarities are there. The Sci-fi genre is not. I believe most of the EVE subscribers are there for the lazers and flying space boats as you put it. Both games are trying to reach out to a niche community. Darkfall being elfs, swords and magic. EVE being corporations, lasers, ships and space.
ccp (creators of eve) are working on the World of Darkness MMO. i have every confidence that it will be an eve'ian version of sword & sorcery / fantasy.
honestly -- will that be good? picture eve, but not sci-fi, instead fantasy, with werewolves, vampires, mages, etc...
doesn't get much more indie than CCP... i just wonder if the world of darkness mmo will be the same price as eve --- $20?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Pre-Cu SWG kkthxbai
I don't like to play games that are just purely about killing and if I DO it has to have a really impressive combat system, Darkfall has nothing on that.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
what in the world are you talking about? you've seriously never played an FPS?
why is the game not for everyone? i mean, i know people who are graphics whores and sticklers for trivial things like good animations (which bad animations break immersion for a LOT of people, far moreso than bad/dated graphics), probably won't like it.
eve and any fps has excitement and adrenaline and blah blah blah.
what about the game is so wonderful?
i'm being dead serious. how are you immersed, do you simply pretend that the horrid animations don't exist? is it the clunky interface/movement that somehow you ignore so as to not break your immersion?
I LOVE CHEESE! cheese is great! if you've only drunk milk - you have to try cheese, it's the best food ever! I especially love cheese that is yellow! <<< that's your review, only turned to cheese instead of for darkfall... did you learn anything about cheese or why it's so wonderful? that's what i've learned about darkfall from your post.
let me break it down for you Mr. Simple dimple
darkfall = immersion
no autolock
free loot
sandbox
vendors
building
ships
pillaging
300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history
100's of skills
no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III
catch my drift simple?
k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray.
Darkfall does not = immersion
Darkfall can be immersive but it can not = immersion.
Besides auto lock everything has been done before. There are vendors in EQ1, EQ2, Vanguard, WoW, WAR, AOC, etc...
There are ships in many of those games as well, maybe not player owned but there are ships.
Pillaging can be anything. Destroying a building? Didn't that start in DAOC? WoW has that now too!. WAR has that.
Free loot as in its given to you for free? Sounds like a bug to me.
No auto lock so its an RPGFPS. That is nothing new, the MMO part added on maybe but the rest no. Ever played Gunz? Its not seemless but its an RPGFPS against other people, only PvP too!!
100+ skills, well i would argue there are close to 100+ skills in EQ1, EQ2, Vanguard, WoW, WAR, AOC, etc... as well. O and the same skill for a different type of weapon does not count for a different skill. Same skill different weapon.
And there is Magic Missle 1, and 2 and 3 and 4. Its just named differently and its what ever the name of the attack level1 level2 level3 level 4 and so on till it is maxed out. Yes magic missle and iceblast of doom 2000 are the same.
Next time you make a post try and explain things, all you did was post badly written bulletin of garbage thats already in games.
I agree with you but their are a couple of things that you forgot to put in your post.
NON AUTO LOCK ...has been done before and the dev team who have done it ,have a far better combat system than DF will ever have. www.youtube.com/watch
Player owned SHIPS HAVE BEEN IN VG FOR TWO YEARS..these ships make DF look like ants.The next update will see ship being used for quests and many other things.
Every ship you see in this vid is in VG now and can be crafted by a shipwright.
www.youtube.com/watch
FFA loot..well vanguard has a FFA server where i can kill anyone at anytime including guildmates and groups mates. I can't loot there armour but i can loot ALL the gold/coins or cash they have on them.
VG world is a lot bigger and more beautiful than DF hands down DF CANNOT COME CLOSE TO VG WORLD.
VG gas real time player housing and imense guildhalls and player citys that can be contructed around the guildhall with crafting shops and vendors.www.youtube.com/watch
The only thing that VG does not have is total full loot and a skill bases system. I can level up crafting or politics without ever killing anything or anyone. I don't have to kill another npc or player in VG at all.
Weather in DF looks ok but nothing i have seen comes close to VG weather..
www.youtube.com/watch
To the OP..about those battles www.youtube.com/watch
Jah Rasta For I.
The Wicked Shall Fall..
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Player owned SHIPS HAVE BEEN IN VG FOR TWO YEARS..these ships make DF look like ants.The next update will see ship being used for quests and many other things.
Every ship you see in this vid is in VG now and can be crafted by a shipwright.
www.youtube.com/watch
FFA loot..well vanguard has a FFA server where i can kill anyone at anytime including guildmates and groups mates. I can't loot there armour but i can loot ALL the gold/coins or cash they have on them.
VG world is a lot bigger and more beautiful than DF hands down DF CANNOT COME CLOSE TO VG WORLD.
VG gas real time player housing and imense guildhalls and player citys that can be contructed around the guildhall with crafting shops and vendors.www.youtube.com/watch
The only thing that VG does not have is total full loot and a skill bases system. I can level up crafting or politics without ever killing anything or anyone. I don't have to kill another npc or player in VG at all.
Weather in DF looks ok but nothing i have seen comes close to VG weather..
www.youtube.com/watch
To the OP..about those battles www.youtube.com/watch
Yea, Vanguard is a very nice game. I actually enjoyed playing it.
Darkfall, in my opinion, simply blows it away.
Player owned SHIPS HAVE BEEN IN VG FOR TWO YEARS..these ships make DF look like ants.The next update will see ship being used for quests and many other things.
Every ship you see in this vid is in VG now and can be crafted by a shipwright.
www.youtube.com/watch
FFA loot..well vanguard has a FFA server where i can kill anyone at anytime including guildmates and groups mates. I can't loot there armour but i can loot ALL the gold/coins or cash they have on them.
VG world is a lot bigger and more beautiful than DF hands down DF CANNOT COME CLOSE TO VG WORLD.
VG gas real time player housing and imense guildhalls and player citys that can be contructed around the guildhall with crafting shops and vendors.www.youtube.com/watch
The only thing that VG does not have is total full loot and a skill bases system. I can level up crafting or politics without ever killing anything or anyone. I don't have to kill another npc or player in VG at all.
Weather in DF looks ok but nothing i have seen comes close to VG weather..
www.youtube.com/watch
To the OP..about those battles www.youtube.com/watch
Yea, Vanguard is a very nice game. I actually enjoyed playing it.
Darkfall, in my opinion, simply blows it away.
I respect your opinion but for me DF has two things that VG does not..Full loot and skill based system. Everything else VG does better.
Jah Rasta For I.
The Wicked Shall Fall..
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I disagree, but cool.
Also you forget the fact that VG is owned by Sony, which already is a reason not to play
But jokes aside..I really wonder what some people, like damian7 etc. are trying to get over here? If you dont like the game, leave us alone and play eve or whatever... ! I am sorry but you fail to realize that there are many people out there who actually love this game. In your eyes it really seems to be wrong to like a game, which you don't like... thats pathetic...!?
Darkfall ist one of the most unique games released within in the last 10 years, if you dont think so than go back to what you came from... all the people who got into it now and are actually playing it love it so far, I guess that is reason alone to say its a good game?
The next thing is that even though many may say Aventurine is a bad company, I actually totally disagree... they may not communitcate as much as others (even though I can understand that, since the game is already overrun anyway...). They can start PR once they have ironed out most issues and are having enough servers to keep up with the demand.
But instead of communicating to the little crying childs on the forum, they are actually working around the clock to make the game better and better... but many people are blind and many people are not major enough to understand that... they always think they know everything better and would do everything better... its just ridiculous! First they call them vaporware and they can never pull this off, now they do and now they say how they should do different... just lol.
I rather give them my money instead of any of the big companies, who just work for their monthly income instead of their passion to create a game...
They never announced the game openly, except in their forums (for their true supporters, you would have guessed), so if you fail to realize for what you have paid, you should stick with a different company. I paid them to give them them my support, and for me it was clear that it will take some time till the game runs smoothly (even though its already in a much better state I ever though of - not comparable to the failed projects like Wish, Horizons, Mourning etc.)
Kind regards,
LD
Currently playing: Archeage
Waiting for: Black Desert
isn't that what i've been saying to darktards, who insisted on spamming the internet, for the past year?
darkfall is a hardcore ffa pvp full loot game --- NO QQ'ing, not even on the forums.
seriously, lose the whining and crying.
cowboy up or go play a pve game.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
isn't that what i've been saying to darktards, who insisted on spamming the internet, for the past year?
darkfall is a hardcore ffa pvp full loot game --- NO QQ'ing, not even on the forums.
seriously, lose the whining and crying.
cowboy up or go play a pve game.
You are a legend.
1 incessant darkfall fanboi trolling all over the net for the past year.
2 half the features STILL listed on the darkfallonline.com site have been scrapped from the game. essentially all the items that REALLY set the game apart.
3 arrogant, condescending attitude (as seen in interviews and postings) by av staff.
4 people hailing items that have been in most ALL MMOs for the past 4+ years, as revolutionary and next generation. wouldn't next generation mean that they weren't in games that have been out for the past 4+ years and they were... o i dunno, NEW?
5 revolutionary mob AI is simply making the distance mobs spot you farther out? wow, that's idiotic to even make that statement. let's look at the hated wow.... mobs that run when they're badly hurt - check. mobs that go get their buddies to help fight you - check. mobs that you can not attack (and damage) from a position in which they can not attack back - check.
6 funky/junk animations, dated graphics, bad sound
i could go on... but seriously, if you haven't picked up on all of those items (or whomever hasn't picked up on those)... what's the point? no trolling of fanboi-ing needed.
haha yet you incessantly post on this forum about it.
you waste so much of your life hateing a video game. do you not see how pathetic that is?
sort of like you darkfall trolls who have pestered every forum for the past year.... even before this dated game was released in a pay-to-play beta state?
yet... you can not deny the items i post, you simply troll me and make personal attacks.
pity.
I have never posted on a single other forum about darkfall.
you are making yourself look like a total tool. stop now.
it is not our fault that you have to post here. put the fucking keyboard down and go do something. play your goddamned EVE...
Darkfall is the only mmo I would not consider playing, no offense but I just have no idea what drives people to this game.
1. I want to level up, not just build my skills. I want both. You killed me with the concept that "You can do anything in Darkfall." Anything but level up.
2. I love innovation, but also prefer direction and purpose. I love lots to do but it has to be fun enough to make me want to do them. I pay to play not to work, I already work to get paid. I don’t need a second job.
3. I prefer less hype and more substance. I haven't seen one thing about this game that interests me in the slightest.
I'm glad there is a fan base for this game as I like to see and test new things. I've been looking for a good reason to try this game and I haven't found one yet. I've read many comments about the game and still, the love some people have for this game clearly isn't there for others. Bah who knows... It took me 3 years before giving City of Heroes a shot so I might one day come around, just not today.
what in the world are you talking about? you've seriously never played an FPS?
why is the game not for everyone? i mean, i know people who are graphics whores and sticklers for trivial things like good animations (which bad animations break immersion for a LOT of people, far moreso than bad/dated graphics), probably won't like it.
eve and any fps has excitement and adrenaline and blah blah blah.
what about the game is so wonderful?
i'm being dead serious. how are you immersed, do you simply pretend that the horrid animations don't exist? is it the clunky interface/movement that somehow you ignore so as to not break your immersion?
I LOVE CHEESE! cheese is great! if you've only drunk milk - you have to try cheese, it's the best food ever! I especially love cheese that is yellow! <<< that's your review, only turned to cheese instead of for darkfall... did you learn anything about cheese or why it's so wonderful? that's what i've learned about darkfall from your post.
let me break it down for you Mr. Simple dimple
darkfall = immersion
no autolock - Personally find this to be overrated, as every time I've seen it implemented, it's resulted in players hopping and running around like rabbits on crack. Every video I've seen of PvP in DF involves people chasing each other around swinging madly in full-on Benny Hill mode, or spamming blue rings at each other. Not sure how that builds immersion, but okay. To each their own.
free loot - How does free loot provide immersion? Especially when you're looting it from a gravestone that magically appears after the player's corpse magically disappears? That would be more "suspension of disbelief" than immersion, to me.
sandbox - Sandbox design doesn't provide any more immersion by itself than any other design.
vendors - All MMOs have vendors. They're automated buy-and-sell machines.
300+ battles and sieges - first time in mmorpg history - Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Do your research before making comments like that. 300+ battles are *not* new in the industry. At all.
100's of skills - How does number of skills = immersion?
no magic bolt I, magic bolt II, magic bolt III - No, instead of pre-defined levels of strength (bolt I, II, etc), the progression is continuous. But it comes down to the same thing... spells becoming more powerful. It's just a different way of unlocking it.
k now walk to "i've been schooled shrine" and pray. - You've "schooled" no-one.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Shadowbane in its prime, I can remember being in several 200+ on each side sieges.
I can say it's not almost exact. It's not even close. The rough motion is same - a lumbering, "heavy" run, as you'd expect from a large, hulking orc. However, that's where it ends. The nuance and overall quality of the animation work in DF is nowhere even close.
From what I've seen in that video, and some others.. aside from a *slight* side to side rotation, the upper half of the orc in DF is completely stiff.
The animation in WoW is much more fluid, more nuanced, has primary and secondary motion and is overall much more polished. Practically the whole character is animated in some way, however subtle (which is where secondary motion comes in).
DF's animations look as though they basically achieved the bare minimum required and called it "done".
It's fair to say that DF's animations are "functional", as in "they get the job done". Overall, though, trying to compare DF's animations to WoW's is pretty moot. They're not even in the same ballpark.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
No its not.
i guess he'd have a heart attack if he knew there existed a game where 500 v 500 battles were an every day occurence... or where 1000 v 1000 battles happen... or where fights for land/sovereignty have gone on for literal years...
where there are weapons of war which take, a literal YEAR to create, are worth the equivalent (quite literally) of six THOUSAND U.S. dollars and can be lost in the blink of an eye due to incompetent flight commanders?
indeed, a game of this MAGNITUDE would probably make isamright33's heart explode out of his body...
HARDCORE FFA PVP is a game where when you die... you lose ALL of your armor and a big chunk of everything you carried... and what can be looted is whatever is left that hasn't been utterly destroyed after the dust settles.
indeed, darkfall has a long way to go until it reaches the majestic heights of LARGE scale warfare with REAL consequences.
but, what do you expect from a bunch of noobs that have never played a real game?
he'll learn one day, mr bloodworth... mayber.
I am just pointing out the fact here that you can see all 300 characters with no slowdown in frames....k now your turn to name me a game that has done this.
All ready did, its called planetside, and it came out in 2003.
PLEASE TO BE WATCHING VIDEO.
Darkfall doesn't hold a candle to planetside.
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Your right then. This game definitely is not for you. The thing is there have been numerous games on the market that cater to exactly those things you mentioned. However, nothing recent has been released that offers what Darkfall does.
Nothing new about first person shooter games. They've been around a long time. I like to play first person shooters sometimes.
But I also like to play RPG"s sometimes as well. Both types of games are fun, IMO.
However, I like to play FPS games in short bursts. They wear out my fingers more quickly than an RPG.
I wanna play Planetside now. Thanks guys! Who wants in?
Uhhhh, ya. They also ground to halt, crashed to desktop, and were unfortunately "broken". Not sure what your point is there. If you are trying to say there are other games that have done 300+, there are many better examples.
It's because of folk like you, that companies such as Aventurine and Funcom are able to con people into buying unfinished, garbage products.
Why is anything remotely detrimental removed from their forums? Funcom tried this approach as well...
Yep there's the easymode standard and then there is this new standard that has just been created by Darkfall
So if we are talking in volumes then yes this standard is pretty low considering pretty much rest of the MMO mass fall into that other standard.
So the 'new standard' is allowing every hax known to man to be alive and kicking in a competitive game?
This game is old news - 10yrs old news.
Man these threads are stupid, it's always started by some fanboi with a raging hard-on for the game.
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