It has been stated that NA players wishing to play on NA servers, but who have already bought the game, will not have to re purchase. End of thread Would a moderator please close this stupid troll?
Most misinformed post yet. As said if you want to play at launch you have to buy a new copy. If not wait 3 months and pay a fee, either way your dinged cash. No other way to look at it.
It has been stated that NA players wishing to play on NA servers, but who have already bought the game, will not have to re purchase. End of thread Would a moderator please close this stupid troll?
You are completely wrong
Any current player who bought the game has to buy ANOTHER copy of the game of they want to play on NA at launch
Ok I am confused here...it appears like they are saying if you want to wait the three months than you only have to pay for a character transfer...so if you pay for the character transfer you end up getting the NA client (without paying for the new client)...or are the character transfers simply going to cost as much as a new client? :P (double eyebrow waggle)
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
Whats it gonna be? like a $10 fee? or $15 like WoW? I'm sure if people like the game they'd pay to do that then start over again. People in WoW pay cash for stupid stuff like changing your characters gender.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
LOL...first off I totally agree with you...but the way they worded it is typical Aventurine, they don't really come out and say "Character Transfer Fee"...they say "The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong tot he same company, therefor you cannot freely transfer between the two territories..." so I can easily see how some fail to translate it into what it really is= "Character Transfer Fee"...
It just occured to me that Darkfall can be fun, I am getting much enjoyment (amusement) out of Darkfall right here and I don't even have to pay for it! hehe!
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
Whats it gonna be? like a $10 fee? or $15 like WoW? I'm sure if people like the game they'd pay to do that then start over again. People in WoW pay cash for stupid stuff like changing your characters gender.
Is it really the point what it costs, its the fact they re charging people after initially saying buy the game, play on eu server, when NA server opens just transfer. It never once said, oh btw you ll pay to do this.
I still don't see what the big deal over this is lol. I have to admit I could care less about the game, and never read the original statments about them opening NA servers. I have to ask though, in this orignial post by them, did they say it would be free to switch if you started on EU servers? If not you should have assumed it wouldn't be.
Also as I stated in an earlier post in this thread, many companies use multiple clients for NA and other regions, even WoW does this(yeah I know who cares about WoW, just an example). You should just be glad they are going to let you transfer characters from 1 set of servers to another, which I doubt most companies would do.
On a more serious note, do people want to switch over to NA server due to lag issues? I have not played, I am trying to understand why you would even care about moving to them. Or do you just want a fresh start now that you know more about the game play and want to try to jump start "new" players? This is really a dumb argument to be honest.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
Here is what I think your missing:
"American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server."
Lets disect that one line there. In the RED they clearly state that only TRANSFERS wont have to buy another client. In the BLUE however they state EVERYONE ELSE, not "Just EU players" or "just people who havent bought it", but everyone else must re-buy the client in order to access the NA server.
So, you may either wait 3 months and pay a transfer fee or you may rebuy the game full price.
I think people have a right to be a little upset over this poor choice on AVs part.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
Here is what I think your missing:
"American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server."
Lets disect that one line there. In the RED they clearly state that only TRANSFERS wont have to buy another client. In the BLUE however they state EVERYONE ELSE, not "Just EU players" or "just people who havent bought it", but everyone else must re-buy the client in order to access the NA server.
So, you may either wait 3 months and pay a transfer fee or you may rebuy the game full price.
I think people have a right to be a little upset over this poor choice on AVs part.
I like how some people are trying to excuse having to buy a new copy because "you can transfer for a fee after 3 months" well well if lets say in a best case scenario the transfer fee is 15USD, the real cost of transfer is actually 60USD if you decide to wait for the transfers (15USD transfer fee + 3 X 15USD for 3 months sub), so in any of the two options (buy a new copy or wait for the transfer) NA players are being ripped off their money with the apparently "cheaper" option actually being the more expensive.
I'm certain that Tasos and company made this exact observation when deciding on the 3 month delay.
But let's be real. No "hardcore" guild on the EU1 server who's members are mostly from NA are going to wait for 3 months to transfer. They will buy the game again to get on the NA server immediately and establish themselves. And AV is counting on that.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
Whats it gonna be? like a $10 fee? or $15 like WoW? I'm sure if people like the game they'd pay to do that then start over again. People in WoW pay cash for stupid stuff like changing your characters gender.
It will be the same as a new game client. Say $35 for the transfer, then no free 30 days meaning you need to pay a $15 sub for the first month = $50, which would be the same as the game client. And then they can always sprout "It was cheaper to transfer!!", ignoring the fact that in reality it was not cheaper - in usual AV fashion
1) Th3y are releasing a new NA server that a new player will have to buy the client for.
2) If you want to transfer a character over you do not have to buy a client.
Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client.
3) Existing players that WANT to play on the NA server AT LAUNCH have to buy another client?
if you want to play on the American server at launch you need to buy the American Darkfall client.
I'm a little confused, I was on late last night and read the announcement like right after he posted it. Weird timing, I went to my account page and the DF buy button was up. I was tempted but after I read it like 2 or 4 times I was still confused.
And they are charging me 52 bucks for the client anyway, is it worth holding out. After reading some posts I am still leery.
Existing NA players don't have to buy a new client...they just have to wait three months and then pay to transfer their toons over minus everything they own. if they don't want to wait then they have to buy a new client and start over.
Our publishing effort has been for a common infrastructure and we’ve been adopting solutions with a global reach so that the setup in one region could be shared by- or quickly duplicated in the other. I don’t want to say that we could be up in N. America in no time, but that’s our intention. -Tasos
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Players in North America are welcome to participate in the European Launch. The plans for US servers aren’t finalized at the time of this announcement. We will offer the option for character migration to US servers for N. American players who wish to use it. We have had people playing without problem from all over the US and Canada. That being said, our servers are located in Germany and distance does affect ping-time. - Tasos
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Our first release is the European release. The North American release will follow as soon as possible but not until a few months later. We’re allowing players from N. America to participate in the European release due to this fact. Of course we’ll make some allowances for these players if they would like to move to the US server when it launches. - Tasos
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They're right after the European servers, but not soon enough for a lot of players to wait. We don't have a solid date to announce on a N. American server and that's why we're allowing N. American players the option to play on the European server. Ideally we would have loved to be able to launch world-wide but we just don't have the resources to do it right. - Tasos
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Athens, Greece – December 5th, 2008 - Audio Visual Enterprises SA and Aventurine SA in a joint statement today announced that their highly anticipated MMORPG title Darkfall Online will launch across Europe on January 22nd, 2009. North American players are also welcome to participate in the European launch of Darkfall which will precede a North American launch.
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The misleadings from this Aventurine organization has been apparent for some-time now. I was once a supporter in the hopes, as I had hopes for the Funcom team with AoC, that the organization would embrace their player-base and launch a product that was close to complete but with understandable improvement needed, and with clear communication.
What was delivered was nothing short of an Alpha/Beta stage development initiative with spin language targeted at a North American audience to draw those players into funding their experiement so a EU server could be supported.
There was active deception on the part of Aventurine by excluding anything having to do with North American customers having to purchase a second account/client at $50, as they did for a game-play early-start on the EU server. There was active deception with their spin language by excluding information about character transfer delays, and additional transfer fees following NA launch.
Yes, had that very critical customer-centric and important communication/information was honestly owned up to and simply shared beforehand, even as a "might have to". many NA players would not have started until the NA launch. I'm willing to bet that Tasos knew, which in my opinion, is why he conveniently failed to mention it. $$$.
Existing NA players don't have to buy a new client...they just have to wait three months and then pay to transfer their toons over minus everything they own. if they don't want to wait then they have to buy a new client and start over.
:L
Ok, thanks. I'm going to wait and see how this plays out.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
I wonder if theFAQ's ever said "server". I know it was "account" when I read it but that was only a month ago.
Sorry for my general distrust of the gaming community I dont know where I get that from.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
I wonder if theFAQ's ever said "server". I know it was "account" when I read it but that was only a month ago.
Sorry for my general distrust of the gaming community I dont know where I get that from.
Yes yes, because Tasos has certainly never exaggerrated or done anything to cause anyone to distrust *his* statements......
Now they are requiring NA users who wish to play on the NA account at launch to purchase the client they've been distributing freely for 4 months.
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!
LOLOL... hay man... i'm just gonna put my hand in your wallet kk? don't worry it's ok... kk? my name is Tasos and i work for Aventurine... you can trust me kk?
when you buy a game... you get the CLIENT ***********AND********** the ACCOUNT in ONE PACKAGE... regardless of how you get the client (downloaded or bought in a store)... so when YOU bought YOUR *****ACCOUNT*****... you paid for that account ANNND the client... you didn't get anything free... your IQ must be like... -1000 or something...
and based on how YOU described the situation... so basicly what they are doing is... pay $___ for the account... then pay $___ for the client... then pay $___ for the EU - NA transfer... ADD THAT UP...
***********EITHER WAY************* YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED... scratch that... your IQ must be NEGATIVE ONE TRILLION!!!
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
I wonder if theFAQ's ever said "server". I know it was "account" when I read it but that was only a month ago.
Sorry for my general distrust of the gaming community I dont know where I get that from.
Do your research before accusing people of lying, thanks.
edit I'll add the second link for the lazy ones.
05-10-2008 Post by Tasos:
As much as I enjoy seeing heated arguments on the community board, I think some of you are getting a bit ahead of yourselves:
When I mention one race per server I'm making an argument in the racial context. The reason you can choose to play only one race is because we allow one character per server, and this has been explained before over and over as the only way to ensure player accountability.
So let me confirm again that Darkfall has one character per server and that's not going to change. We wouldn't go changing a feature without announcing it and explaining why we did it. We're not in the habit of just 'slipping in' feature changes.
Sorry if this created any confusion, I'll try to be more careful next time.
Our first release is the European release. The North American release will follow as soon as possible but not until a few months later. We’re allowing players from N. America to participate in the European release due to this fact. Of course we’ll make some allowances for these players if they would like to move to the US server when it launches. - Tasos
I would just like to point out this part in red here. I don't know of any company who gives free transfer, or transfer from 1 client to another i.e. EU to NA(I could be wrong here). Also did you really expect to be playing for months and get to transfer from day 1 of the servers opening up with all your skills?
IMO they are "making allowances" just by letting you transfer clients, though them not bring your gear over I am not quite sure why.
I like how some people are trying to excuse having to buy a new copy because "you can transfer for a fee after 3 months" well well if lets say in a best case scenario the transfer fee is 15USD, the real cost of transfer is actually 60USD if you decide to wait for the transfers (15USD transfer fee + 3 X 15USD for 3 months sub), so in any of the two options (buy a new copy or wait for the transfer) NA players are being ripped off their money with the apparently "cheaper" option actually being the more expensive.
I'm certain that Tasos and company made this exact observation when deciding on the 3 month delay.
But let's be real. No "hardcore" guild on the EU1 server who's members are mostly from NA are going to wait for 3 months to transfer. They will buy the game again to get on the NA server immediately and establish themselves. And AV is counting on that.
You are correct that makes it a bit retarded to offer transfers after 3 months in a sandbox game, sure you will have your skills but since well the only content that is implemented in DFO is the city hamlets, any player transfering after the 3 months will be paying more money (refer back to my original post) and will virtually be starting from scratch since you cant transfer items.
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Most misinformed post yet. As said if you want to play at launch you have to buy a new copy. If not wait 3 months and pay a fee, either way your dinged cash. No other way to look at it.
You are completely wrong
Any current player who bought the game has to buy ANOTHER copy of the game of they want to play on NA at launch
Ok I am confused here...it appears like they are saying if you want to wait the three months than you only have to pay for a character transfer...so if you pay for the character transfer you end up getting the NA client (without paying for the new client)...or are the character transfers simply going to cost as much as a new client? :P (double eyebrow waggle)
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=198228
If your an american player, you don't have to buy the american version but others will have to. You can just clone your character to the NA servers. Can people read?
"Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server. The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong to the same company, therefore you cannot freely transfer between the two territories, as is the case with most MMORPGs. Our offer of character cloning / transfer to American players is because we had said that we would try to accommodate them should they want to start playing on the European server."
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
Whats it gonna be? like a $10 fee? or $15 like WoW? I'm sure if people like the game they'd pay to do that then start over again. People in WoW pay cash for stupid stuff like changing your characters gender.
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
LOL...first off I totally agree with you...but the way they worded it is typical Aventurine, they don't really come out and say "Character Transfer Fee"...they say "The European rights and the American rights to Darkfall do not belong tot he same company, therefor you cannot freely transfer between the two territories..." so I can easily see how some fail to translate it into what it really is= "Character Transfer Fee"...
It just occured to me that Darkfall can be fun, I am getting much enjoyment (amusement) out of Darkfall right here and I don't even have to pay for it! hehe!
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
Whats it gonna be? like a $10 fee? or $15 like WoW? I'm sure if people like the game they'd pay to do that then start over again. People in WoW pay cash for stupid stuff like changing your characters gender.
Is it really the point what it costs, its the fact they re charging people after initially saying buy the game, play on eu server, when NA server opens just transfer. It never once said, oh btw you ll pay to do this.
I still don't see what the big deal over this is lol. I have to admit I could care less about the game, and never read the original statments about them opening NA servers. I have to ask though, in this orignial post by them, did they say it would be free to switch if you started on EU servers? If not you should have assumed it wouldn't be.
Also as I stated in an earlier post in this thread, many companies use multiple clients for NA and other regions, even WoW does this(yeah I know who cares about WoW, just an example). You should just be glad they are going to let you transfer characters from 1 set of servers to another, which I doubt most companies would do.
On a more serious note, do people want to switch over to NA server due to lag issues? I have not played, I am trying to understand why you would even care about moving to them. Or do you just want a fresh start now that you know more about the game play and want to try to jump start "new" players? This is really a dumb argument to be honest.
Here is what I think your missing:
"American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server."
Lets disect that one line there. In the RED they clearly state that only TRANSFERS wont have to buy another client. In the BLUE however they state EVERYONE ELSE, not "Just EU players" or "just people who havent bought it", but everyone else must re-buy the client in order to access the NA server.
So, you may either wait 3 months and pay a transfer fee or you may rebuy the game full price.
I think people have a right to be a little upset over this poor choice on AVs part.
Ya Looks like MO is gonna be the next bet for anyone leaving DF.
Here is what I think your missing:
"American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client. Everyone else needs to buy the American Darkfall client to play on the American server."
Lets disect that one line there. In the RED they clearly state that only TRANSFERS wont have to buy another client. In the BLUE however they state EVERYONE ELSE, not "Just EU players" or "just people who havent bought it", but everyone else must re-buy the client in order to access the NA server.
So, you may either wait 3 months and pay a transfer fee or you may rebuy the game full price.
I think people have a right to be a little upset over this poor choice on AVs part.
Yea I agree with you.
I'm certain that Tasos and company made this exact observation when deciding on the 3 month delay.
But let's be real. No "hardcore" guild on the EU1 server who's members are mostly from NA are going to wait for 3 months to transfer. They will buy the game again to get on the NA server immediately and establish themselves. And AV is counting on that.
and pay a fee, lol it s not hard to understand, paying a fee= money out of your pocket.
Whats it gonna be? like a $10 fee? or $15 like WoW? I'm sure if people like the game they'd pay to do that then start over again. People in WoW pay cash for stupid stuff like changing your characters gender.
It will be the same as a new game client. Say $35 for the transfer, then no free 30 days meaning you need to pay a $15 sub for the first month = $50, which would be the same as the game client. And then they can always sprout "It was cheaper to transfer!!", ignoring the fact that in reality it was not cheaper - in usual AV fashion
Let me get this straight!
1) Th3y are releasing a new NA server that a new player will have to buy the client for.
2) If you want to transfer a character over you do not have to buy a client.
Clarification: American players wanting to clone and transfer their characters do not have to buy another client.
3) Existing players that WANT to play on the NA server AT LAUNCH have to buy another client?
if you want to play on the American server at launch you need to buy the American Darkfall client.
I'm a little confused, I was on late last night and read the announcement like right after he posted it. Weird timing, I went to my account page and the DF buy button was up. I was tempted but after I read it like 2 or 4 times I was still confused.
And they are charging me 52 bucks for the client anyway, is it worth holding out. After reading some posts I am still leery.
Existing NA players don't have to buy a new client...they just have to wait three months and then pay to transfer their toons over minus everything they own. if they don't want to wait then they have to buy a new client and start over.
ok ok ok ok OKOK!!
this is my moment right here...
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
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Our publishing effort has been for a common infrastructure and we’ve been adopting solutions with a global reach so that the setup in one region could be shared by- or quickly duplicated in the other. I don’t want to say that we could be up in N. America in no time, but that’s our intention. -Tasos
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Players in North America are welcome to participate in the European Launch. The plans for US servers aren’t finalized at the time of this announcement. We will offer the option for character migration to US servers for N. American players who wish to use it. We have had people playing without problem from all over the US and Canada. That being said, our servers are located in Germany and distance does affect ping-time. - Tasos
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Our first release is the European release. The North American release will follow as soon as possible but not until a few months later. We’re allowing players from N. America to participate in the European release due to this fact. Of course we’ll make some allowances for these players if they would like to move to the US server when it launches. - Tasos
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They're right after the European servers, but not soon enough for a lot of players to wait. We don't have a solid date to announce on a N. American server and that's why we're allowing N. American players the option to play on the European server. Ideally we would have loved to be able to launch world-wide but we just don't have the resources to do it right. - Tasos
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Athens, Greece – December 5th, 2008 - Audio Visual Enterprises SA and Aventurine SA in a joint statement today announced that their highly anticipated MMORPG title Darkfall Online will launch across Europe on January 22nd, 2009. North American players are also welcome to participate in the European launch of Darkfall which will precede a North American launch.
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The misleadings from this Aventurine organization has been apparent for some-time now. I was once a supporter in the hopes, as I had hopes for the Funcom team with AoC, that the organization would embrace their player-base and launch a product that was close to complete but with understandable improvement needed, and with clear communication.
What was delivered was nothing short of an Alpha/Beta stage development initiative with spin language targeted at a North American audience to draw those players into funding their experiement so a EU server could be supported.
There was active deception on the part of Aventurine by excluding anything having to do with North American customers having to purchase a second account/client at $50, as they did for a game-play early-start on the EU server. There was active deception with their spin language by excluding information about character transfer delays, and additional transfer fees following NA launch.
Yes, had that very critical customer-centric and important communication/information was honestly owned up to and simply shared beforehand, even as a "might have to". many NA players would not have started until the NA launch. I'm willing to bet that Tasos knew, which in my opinion, is why he conveniently failed to mention it. $$$.
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Ok, thanks. I'm going to wait and see how this plays out.
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
I wonder if theFAQ's ever said "server". I know it was "account" when I read it but that was only a month ago.
Sorry for my general distrust of the gaming community I dont know where I get that from.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
I wonder if theFAQ's ever said "server". I know it was "account" when I read it but that was only a month ago.
Sorry for my general distrust of the gaming community I dont know where I get that from.
Yes yes, because Tasos has certainly never exaggerrated or done anything to cause anyone to distrust *his* statements......
You didn't purchase a client.
The client was free.
You purchased an account.
Now they are requiring NA users who wish to play on the NA account at launch to purchase the client they've been distributing freely for 4 months.
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!
LOLOL... hay man... i'm just gonna put my hand in your wallet kk? don't worry it's ok... kk? my name is Tasos and i work for Aventurine... you can trust me kk?
when you buy a game... you get the CLIENT ***********AND********** the ACCOUNT in ONE PACKAGE... regardless of how you get the client (downloaded or bought in a store)... so when YOU bought YOUR *****ACCOUNT*****... you paid for that account ANNND the client... you didn't get anything free... your IQ must be like... -1000 or something...
and based on how YOU described the situation... so basicly what they are doing is... pay $___ for the account... then pay $___ for the client... then pay $___ for the EU - NA transfer... ADD THAT UP...
***********EITHER WAY************* YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED... scratch that... your IQ must be NEGATIVE ONE TRILLION!!!
Did you read what you just posted? If you don't transfer, and pay the fee for it, you're buying the new client, either that or no american server for you. That's why people are pissed, they can't delete their EU-1 toons and start from zero. AV also used to have a "one character per server" policy, and this pisses the players even more. Now the FAQ was edited to "one character per account".
I wonder if theFAQ's ever said "server". I know it was "account" when I read it but that was only a month ago.
Sorry for my general distrust of the gaming community I dont know where I get that from.
Yeah right
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
If you still don't trust it, Tasos himself said it:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Do your research before accusing people of lying, thanks.
edit I'll add the second link for the lazy ones.
05-10-2008 Post by Tasos:
As much as I enjoy seeing heated arguments on the community board, I think some of you are getting a bit ahead of yourselves:
When I mention one race per server I'm making an argument in the racial context. The reason you can choose to play only one race is because we allow one character per server, and this has been explained before over and over as the only way to ensure player accountability.
So let me confirm again that Darkfall has one character per server and that's not going to change. We wouldn't go changing a feature without announcing it and explaining why we did it. We're not in the habit of just 'slipping in' feature changes.
Sorry if this created any confusion, I'll try to be more careful next time.
I would just like to point out this part in red here. I don't know of any company who gives free transfer, or transfer from 1 client to another i.e. EU to NA(I could be wrong here). Also did you really expect to be playing for months and get to transfer from day 1 of the servers opening up with all your skills?
IMO they are "making allowances" just by letting you transfer clients, though them not bring your gear over I am not quite sure why.
I'm certain that Tasos and company made this exact observation when deciding on the 3 month delay.
But let's be real. No "hardcore" guild on the EU1 server who's members are mostly from NA are going to wait for 3 months to transfer. They will buy the game again to get on the NA server immediately and establish themselves. And AV is counting on that.
You are correct that makes it a bit retarded to offer transfers after 3 months in a sandbox game, sure you will have your skills but since well the only content that is implemented in DFO is the city hamlets, any player transfering after the 3 months will be paying more money (refer back to my original post) and will virtually be starting from scratch since you cant transfer items.