www.1up.com/do/reviewPage The game gets a C, which isn't too good. Although I still think the score is too positive. More importantly, This is the second review (after Eurogamer) which points out Aion's grind. Something IGN claimed the game didn't have, remember those liars? pc.ign.com/articles/102/1027688p1.html
Anyway, nice to see the truth is coming out.
Are you like a retard or something. Let me take a quote from IGN's review. "Having logged at least fifteen hours of game time since launch, here are my first impressions of Aion. "
The guy didn't lie to you. He only plays 15 hours. He makes to level10. If the first 10 levels of Aion is called a grind, every other mmorpg can be called a grind.
The 1up guy must be new to mmo's or used to the EZ mode which is what WoW is.. If he played 15 hours of aion and only reached level 10, then I'm sorry but he equals fail at playing MMO's..
After my first 7 hours of playing Aion, I reached level 12. The next day I played about 4 hours and reached level 15. So in 11 hours I reached level 15.. Currently my main is level 30 and my alt is level 14.. I have no problem with the grind. Most of the time I've been questing, exploring, grouping, and having fun I haven't even noticed the grind..
I'd also like to point something out. The game doesn't actually take off until you reach the Abyss at elvel 25.. I don't how this idiot can rate a game when they haven't even experienced a quarter of what Aion has to offer.. This 1up person fails, his rating fails, and matter of fact, 1up fails themselves for letting this moron give a professional rating on a game in which he didn't even play long enough to give an accurate rating.. It's like a food tester giving an F on a filet Mignon that hasn't been marinated, seasoned, and cooked for more than 5 minutes. The food tester takes it upon himself to throw a filet mignon on the grill, cook it for 5 minutes, eat it, then decides to give the food a bad rating...
Well, that would be stupid, right? Same thing applies with the 1up testers review of Aion.. Friggin Idiot,,, Gaaawd!
I agree... not getting to 25 to at least be able to comment on the abyss is a major shortage on the review as the game doesnt really start till then. However... he was correct about Aion being a grind... just not correct about when it starts.
www.1up.com/do/reviewPage The game gets a C, which isn't too good. Although I still think the score is too positive. More importantly, This is the second review (after Eurogamer) which points out Aion's grind. Something IGN claimed the game didn't have, remember those liars? pc.ign.com/articles/102/1027688p1.html
Anyway, nice to see the truth is coming out.
Are you like a retard or something. Let me take a quote from IGN's review. "Having logged at least fifteen hours of game time since launch, here are my first impressions of Aion. "
The guy didn't lie to you. He only plays 15 hours. He makes to level10. If the first 10 levels of Aion is called a grind, every other mmorpg can be called a grind.
Lets flip this coin;
If the game feels like a grind by level 10...then...is it going to feel *less* grindy as the experience required to level raises? Sure, sure...
Level from 1 to 10 take as low as 2 hours. Ok?
You can't call that a grind. It's called you don't like the game.
And the main point is you can't call the reviewer a liar. He tells you there's no grind from level 1 to 10. Which is true for the majority of the player. Eventhough it's quite true there might be people who felt leveling from 1 to 10 is a grind. But the majority won't.
After lvl 25 questing was my least source of xp, had too many other options to fill my time.
There's only questing and grinding: Both gathering and PvP give pathetic XP; abyss points from player kills are pretty trivial too until you hit the higher levels.
Crafting falls under gathering in terms of XP earned and serves mostly as a second source of income once you have the capital to level it up; it's mainly standard fare with repeatable quests tacked on to make leveling it easier.
What other options are you talking about then? Lava caves (assuming you've done the quests) and other outside group grinding? Training camp every 17 hours? What are these numerous options you had to fill your time in the game advancing your character?
I suppose you could have waited for the fortresses to become vulnerable every couple of hours as well.
I should have been more specific said "solo PVE" questing was my least source of xp. Since i enjoy grouping more i did all the open elite areas, instances + PvP, crafting and gathering. Filled in some Solo pve quests here a there and leveling was never really grind, My quest log is always full in the 30s and still is.
Gathering EXP is insubstantial all the way to 300 skill. I currently get 1000 exp per tink and 3 - 4 tinks per node. as opposed to 20k per mob solo.
Crafting, at up to 300 skill is the same. Insignificant exp and extremely expensive.
What you are most likely getting most of your exp from is the open elite areas in a group. This is what most of us would call a group grind. You are moving to an area, killing elite mobs for hours, and progressing. This is grinding... its just not solo grinding.
If you do the math on group grinding, its slower than solo grinding 9 out of 10 times exp per kill per hour ratio. Is it more fun? Sure if its a good group that doesnt die. Is it slower? You betcha.
All those group areas have huge quest xp, better loot and greater xp per elite mob. So whats your point again?
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If you do the math on group grinding, its slower than solo grinding 9 out of 10 times exp per kill per hour ratio. Is it more fun? Sure if its a good group that doesnt die. Is it slower? You betcha.
That's wrong. You might get more exp soloing at lower level, but that won't happen at higher level.
You get more exp/hour in group at higher level. It's common knowledge from the Chinese community. All the Chinese power leveling guide will tell you to stay in a group and farm elite.
It's still grinding, just grinding in group like you said. But you actually level faster in a group.
It wasn't too bad until level 29 (the 1st instance gives nice xp) but after that its pretty horrible. Higher instances have pathetic xp gain, quests usually give you 10-30% of level. So all you have left is sit around somewhere either grinding same mobs all day long or do a repeatable quest and still kill same mobs all day long. At level 36 it will take you 1-2 days of 10h+ grinding to gain 1 level. It gets worse from there.
If you wanted the reviewer to get to level cap before reviewing the game it would have been a very long wait.
If you do the math on group grinding, its slower than solo grinding 9 out of 10 times exp per kill per hour ratio. Is it more fun? Sure if its a good group that doesnt die. Is it slower? You betcha.
That's wrong. You might get more exp soloing at lower level, but that won't happen at higher level.
You get more exp/hour in group at higher level. It's common knowledge from the Chinese community. All the Chinese power leveling guide will tell you to stay in a group and farm elite.
It's still grinding, just grinding in group like you said. But you actually level faster in a group.
Not at 35 you dont. Perhaps at later levels. However, I can make 100 - 120k in the time it takes a good group my level to kill one 60k mob. Is it more fun? yes. Is it more efficient... no.
Grouping in aion slows progress at pretty much every point so far up to 35. Other than instances, grouping actually slows your progress.
The amusing part is he's actually lying considering you don't run out of quests in the level range he's taking about so he's just going off hearsay. The first time you actually could fall short on quests is around lvl 27 which by his own ommission he never made it to.
Love how he cries about getting xp debt when you die too.
Comes accross as worthless to me although it's amusing the op cites another reviewer for supposedly lying but is perfectly fine with this one lying.
Game has it's issues and to an extent what the reviewer complains about is one. He might have been able to comment on it better though if he actually got to the point where it becomes one for some people.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
After lvl 25 questing was my least source of xp, had too many other options to fill my time.
There's only questing and grinding: Both gathering and PvP give pathetic XP; abyss points from player kills are pretty trivial too until you hit the higher levels.
Crafting falls under gathering in terms of XP earned and serves mostly as a second source of income once you have the capital to level it up; it's mainly standard fare with repeatable quests tacked on to make leveling it easier.
What other options are you talking about then? Lava caves (assuming you've done the quests) and other outside group grinding? Training camp every 17 hours? What are these numerous options you had to fill your time in the game advancing your character?
I suppose you could have waited for the fortresses to become vulnerable every couple of hours as well.
I should have been more specific said "solo PVE" questing was my least source of xp. Since i enjoy grouping more i did all the open elite areas, instances + PvP, crafting and gathering. Filled in some Solo pve quests here a there and leveling was never really grind, My quest log is always full in the 30s and still is.
Gathering EXP is insubstantial all the way to 300 skill. I currently get 1000 exp per tink and 3 - 4 tinks per node. as opposed to 20k per mob solo.
Crafting, at up to 300 skill is the same. Insignificant exp and extremely expensive.
What you are most likely getting most of your exp from is the open elite areas in a group. This is what most of us would call a group grind. You are moving to an area, killing elite mobs for hours, and progressing. This is grinding... its just not solo grinding.
If you do the math on group grinding, its slower than solo grinding 9 out of 10 times exp per kill per hour ratio. Is it more fun? Sure if its a good group that doesnt die. Is it slower? You betcha.
All those group areas have huge quest xp, better loot and greater xp per elite mob. So whats your point again?
They have usually 1 quest, sometimes two... these questas give maybe 2 bubbles. Yeah 2 million exp is nice at 35... but when you need over 15million to level its not even a drop in the bucket.
Loot is non existant, named bosses even in instances many times drop nothing but coin, and normal elites have the same random chance as any other mob.
As I stated the exp per kill in a group on elites is greater, but the kill time is also greater, leading to soloing giving you faster kills, less exp per kill, but greater exp per hour.
This is just two examples of games I feel did it right and kept grinding to a minimal (while pursuing max level at least); however, Aion does not present players with many options when it comes to avatar progression, hence why you hear big cries from the gaming community about it being a grindy game.
Aion offers more than wow and doesnt hold your hand in the process -----> Solo PVE Quest/grinding in 4 areas after lvl 20, Open World PvP in the Abyss or Rifting, Fortress Sieges (open world), Group/Solo PvP, crafting, gathering, Open Elite mob areas, PVE Instances ... are you playing the same game as i am? Im in my 30s and my quest log is always full since i have so many other options for xp.
Hahaha Aion dosnt hold your hand??????????? It has the biggest handholding carebear feature of any game and its called /LOCATE. shows what NCsfot thought of the IQ of their playerbase when they had to introduce that feature. But even that dsont stope the dense idiots spamming the chat 24/7 in Aion, asking wher eis this, where is that, when actually its located for you, no need to look for anything. SO please dont spout crap aion dosnt hold your hand. Because it holds your hand, and then holds it tight, but even for the thick aion players the /locate function is to hard to use.
Originally posted by Demz2 Hahaha Aion dosnt hold your hand??????????? It has the biggest handholding carebear feature of any game and its called /LOCATE. shows what NCsfot thought of the IQ of their playerbase when they had to introduce that feature. But even that dsont stope the dense idiots spamming the chat 24/7 in Aion, asking wher eis this, where is that, when actually its located for you, no need to look for anything. SO please dont spout crap aion dosnt hold your hand. Because it holds your hand, and then holds it tight, but even for the thick aion players the /locate function is to hard to use.
They didn't locate everything. And some of the quest there's different location during different time of the day. So the locate actually point you to the wrong location.
But there's always google though, so it doesn't really matter.
Originally posted by Pyrostasis As I stated the exp per kill in a group on elites is greater, but the kill time is also greater, leading to soloing giving you faster kills, less exp per kill, but greater exp per hour. Thought my point was pretty clear...
I understand why you don't get good exp in group.
But the truth is the fastest way to level up is in a group. For starter, most of the time you want to form small group of 3-4. And make sure it's an efficient group.
Fact of the matter is, post 35 you get less than 30% of your level from questing. This is from my personal experience as a ranger on Triniel, Look up the character Phaine and refer to my xfire if you doubt me. Aion is a great game for some people, the pvp had potential. It is definitely going to appeal to the folks that enjoy large scale RvR that is for damn sure. That being said... it is a very nasty grind post 35, and many would say its a nasty grind post 26. This and this alone will bleed customers. Is it a big deal? I dunno. For me personally it was a game breaker, I can grind for short spurts no problem. I managed to 4 box my shamans from 1 - 80 in wow and that was an unbelievable grind I barely made it through, I played EQ1 till about 60 before throwing in the towel, and I have a level 102 on sword of the new world. I can grind when needed... but I simply couldnt handle the format for which Aion threw at me. 12 hours plus per level at 35 with exponential growth killed my enjoyment, and has led me to move back to EvE. I will say Aion is a great game for those that can muscle through the grind... but anyone who has a toon post 35 would be lying to say this isnt the biggest grind thats been released in a main stream MMO in many many years.
If you enjoyed the game and left because of the grind I might suggest you to wait till they add the patch that boosts lots of quests from 25(?) to 50.
Aion's so called grind is on par with other mmorpgs. If you find Aion a grind, you're playing the wrong genre because you're not going to find a lesser grind anywhere.
that's a big load of crap. so congratulations for hitting the tone of most of the threads in here.
Aion's so called grind is on par with other mmorpgs. If you find Aion a grind, you're playing the wrong genre because you're not going to find a lesser grind anywhere.
that's a big load of crap. so congratulations for hitting the tone of most of the threads in here.
Because you died too many time and lost all the xp, doesn't make this a grinding game.
ah, was already wondering when you would pop in this discussion. and you know that i died often and lost xp from where? the voices in your head? or did somebody say so and you just had to adapt the opinion?
Nice review didnt even make into the Abyss lol Look at Xfire.com for the real stats
The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing.
We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.
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Who the hell still uses xfire, not the general population of an MMO that's who. You can't use xfire for any "real" stats, since more than half the population don't know/won't use it.
Thats like saying voting polls and media surveys are useless. Xfire polls % of the gaming populace 24/7, just because you dont personally use it doesnt mean anything. Eat some humble pie -----> xfire.com.
"A biased sample, sometimes classified as a result of selection bias, is one in which some members of the population are more likely to be included than others."
Members of the xfire poulation is not a representative sample of the MMO population in general. It doesnt even try to be that. Therefore you cannot make any conclusion with a high degree of certainty. (e.g. 95%)
You can however draw some conclusions without any degree of certanty if you want. For exapmle I conclude that Aion has peaked in numbers of subscribers in the West based on xfire statistics. My statement is, based on xfire, that Aion will never have more players in the west than it had on Oct 4th 2009.
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Are a lot of the trolls just angry kids with old gaming hardware?
Well personally i dont consider Aion to be a grindfest(for now) because i got school and stuff and yet i can still manage to get 1 lvl per day. im at lvl 27 and its pretty much easy. considering the lvl cap is 50 im basically halfway there.
also there is already a lvl 49 SM in our server and plenty of lvl 40s no lifer or w/e its still pretty easy ..the games been out for only about wat? 1month? and lastly your ment to enjoy the pvp and combine it with grind and there is tons of quest in this game.
Nice review didnt even make into the Abyss lol Look at Xfire.com for the real stats
The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing.
We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.
And AoC never had 3.5 million subs in Asia after a year did they?
Keep trying, your arguments hold no merit without any real facts. Xfire.com ----> humble pie, tasty?
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Nice review didnt even make into the Abyss lol Look at Xfire.com for the real stats
The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing.
We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.
And AoC never had 3.5 million subs in Asia after a year did they?
Keep trying, your arguments hold no merit without any real facts. Xfire.com ----> humble pie, tasty?
What exactly does Asia have to do with the western market? They're complete opposites, atleast concerning playstyle.
And enough about XFire. You were proven wrong 4 pages ago.
how can you take that review seriously with a statement like this:
"Because of the relatively short amount of time I've had with Aion, and, to be honest, a general apathy toward playing any further, I've not yet experienced the so-called "PvPvE"
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Are you like a retard or something. Let me take a quote from IGN's review. "Having logged at least fifteen hours of game time since launch, here are my first impressions of Aion. "
The guy didn't lie to you. He only plays 15 hours. He makes to level10. If the first 10 levels of Aion is called a grind, every other mmorpg can be called a grind.
The 1up guy must be new to mmo's or used to the EZ mode which is what WoW is.. If he played 15 hours of aion and only reached level 10, then I'm sorry but he equals fail at playing MMO's..
After my first 7 hours of playing Aion, I reached level 12. The next day I played about 4 hours and reached level 15. So in 11 hours I reached level 15.. Currently my main is level 30 and my alt is level 14.. I have no problem with the grind. Most of the time I've been questing, exploring, grouping, and having fun I haven't even noticed the grind..
I'd also like to point something out. The game doesn't actually take off until you reach the Abyss at elvel 25.. I don't how this idiot can rate a game when they haven't even experienced a quarter of what Aion has to offer.. This 1up person fails, his rating fails, and matter of fact, 1up fails themselves for letting this moron give a professional rating on a game in which he didn't even play long enough to give an accurate rating.. It's like a food tester giving an F on a filet Mignon that hasn't been marinated, seasoned, and cooked for more than 5 minutes. The food tester takes it upon himself to throw a filet mignon on the grill, cook it for 5 minutes, eat it, then decides to give the food a bad rating...
Well, that would be stupid, right? Same thing applies with the 1up testers review of Aion.. Friggin Idiot,,, Gaaawd!
I agree... not getting to 25 to at least be able to comment on the abyss is a major shortage on the review as the game doesnt really start till then. However... he was correct about Aion being a grind... just not correct about when it starts.
Are you like a retard or something. Let me take a quote from IGN's review. "Having logged at least fifteen hours of game time since launch, here are my first impressions of Aion. "
The guy didn't lie to you. He only plays 15 hours. He makes to level10. If the first 10 levels of Aion is called a grind, every other mmorpg can be called a grind.
Lets flip this coin;
If the game feels like a grind by level 10...then...is it going to feel *less* grindy as the experience required to level raises? Sure, sure...
Level from 1 to 10 take as low as 2 hours. Ok?
You can't call that a grind. It's called you don't like the game.
And the main point is you can't call the reviewer a liar. He tells you there's no grind from level 1 to 10. Which is true for the majority of the player. Eventhough it's quite true there might be people who felt leveling from 1 to 10 is a grind. But the majority won't.
After lvl 25 questing was my least source of xp, had too many other options to fill my time.
There's only questing and grinding: Both gathering and PvP give pathetic XP; abyss points from player kills are pretty trivial too until you hit the higher levels.
Crafting falls under gathering in terms of XP earned and serves mostly as a second source of income once you have the capital to level it up; it's mainly standard fare with repeatable quests tacked on to make leveling it easier.
What other options are you talking about then? Lava caves (assuming you've done the quests) and other outside group grinding? Training camp every 17 hours? What are these numerous options you had to fill your time in the game advancing your character?
I suppose you could have waited for the fortresses to become vulnerable every couple of hours as well.
I should have been more specific said "solo PVE" questing was my least source of xp. Since i enjoy grouping more i did all the open elite areas, instances + PvP, crafting and gathering. Filled in some Solo pve quests here a there and leveling was never really grind, My quest log is always full in the 30s and still is.
Gathering EXP is insubstantial all the way to 300 skill. I currently get 1000 exp per tink and 3 - 4 tinks per node. as opposed to 20k per mob solo.
Crafting, at up to 300 skill is the same. Insignificant exp and extremely expensive.
What you are most likely getting most of your exp from is the open elite areas in a group. This is what most of us would call a group grind. You are moving to an area, killing elite mobs for hours, and progressing. This is grinding... its just not solo grinding.
If you do the math on group grinding, its slower than solo grinding 9 out of 10 times exp per kill per hour ratio. Is it more fun? Sure if its a good group that doesnt die. Is it slower? You betcha.
All those group areas have huge quest xp, better loot and greater xp per elite mob. So whats your point again?
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That's wrong. You might get more exp soloing at lower level, but that won't happen at higher level.
You get more exp/hour in group at higher level. It's common knowledge from the Chinese community. All the Chinese power leveling guide will tell you to stay in a group and farm elite.
It's still grinding, just grinding in group like you said. But you actually level faster in a group.
Aion's so called grind is on par with other mmorpgs.
If you find Aion a grind, you're playing the wrong genre because you're not going to find a lesser grind anywhere.
It wasn't too bad until level 29 (the 1st instance gives nice xp) but after that its pretty horrible. Higher instances have pathetic xp gain, quests usually give you 10-30% of level. So all you have left is sit around somewhere either grinding same mobs all day long or do a repeatable quest and still kill same mobs all day long. At level 36 it will take you 1-2 days of 10h+ grinding to gain 1 level. It gets worse from there.
If you wanted the reviewer to get to level cap before reviewing the game it would have been a very long wait.
Different people have different thresholds for grinding and yes I hate to admit that after 30 it starts to feel like having an extra job.
That's wrong. You might get more exp soloing at lower level, but that won't happen at higher level.
You get more exp/hour in group at higher level. It's common knowledge from the Chinese community. All the Chinese power leveling guide will tell you to stay in a group and farm elite.
It's still grinding, just grinding in group like you said. But you actually level faster in a group.
Not at 35 you dont. Perhaps at later levels. However, I can make 100 - 120k in the time it takes a good group my level to kill one 60k mob. Is it more fun? yes. Is it more efficient... no.
Grouping in aion slows progress at pretty much every point so far up to 35. Other than instances, grouping actually slows your progress.
The amusing part is he's actually lying considering you don't run out of quests in the level range he's taking about so he's just going off hearsay. The first time you actually could fall short on quests is around lvl 27 which by his own ommission he never made it to.
Love how he cries about getting xp debt when you die too.
Comes accross as worthless to me although it's amusing the op cites another reviewer for supposedly lying but is perfectly fine with this one lying.
Game has it's issues and to an extent what the reviewer complains about is one. He might have been able to comment on it better though if he actually got to the point where it becomes one for some people.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
After lvl 25 questing was my least source of xp, had too many other options to fill my time.
There's only questing and grinding: Both gathering and PvP give pathetic XP; abyss points from player kills are pretty trivial too until you hit the higher levels.
Crafting falls under gathering in terms of XP earned and serves mostly as a second source of income once you have the capital to level it up; it's mainly standard fare with repeatable quests tacked on to make leveling it easier.
What other options are you talking about then? Lava caves (assuming you've done the quests) and other outside group grinding? Training camp every 17 hours? What are these numerous options you had to fill your time in the game advancing your character?
I suppose you could have waited for the fortresses to become vulnerable every couple of hours as well.
I should have been more specific said "solo PVE" questing was my least source of xp. Since i enjoy grouping more i did all the open elite areas, instances + PvP, crafting and gathering. Filled in some Solo pve quests here a there and leveling was never really grind, My quest log is always full in the 30s and still is.
Gathering EXP is insubstantial all the way to 300 skill. I currently get 1000 exp per tink and 3 - 4 tinks per node. as opposed to 20k per mob solo.
Crafting, at up to 300 skill is the same. Insignificant exp and extremely expensive.
What you are most likely getting most of your exp from is the open elite areas in a group. This is what most of us would call a group grind. You are moving to an area, killing elite mobs for hours, and progressing. This is grinding... its just not solo grinding.
If you do the math on group grinding, its slower than solo grinding 9 out of 10 times exp per kill per hour ratio. Is it more fun? Sure if its a good group that doesnt die. Is it slower? You betcha.
All those group areas have huge quest xp, better loot and greater xp per elite mob. So whats your point again?
They have usually 1 quest, sometimes two... these questas give maybe 2 bubbles. Yeah 2 million exp is nice at 35... but when you need over 15million to level its not even a drop in the bucket.
Loot is non existant, named bosses even in instances many times drop nothing but coin, and normal elites have the same random chance as any other mob.
As I stated the exp per kill in a group on elites is greater, but the kill time is also greater, leading to soloing giving you faster kills, less exp per kill, but greater exp per hour.
Thought my point was pretty clear...
Aion offers more than wow and doesnt hold your hand in the process -----> Solo PVE Quest/grinding in 4 areas after lvl 20, Open World PvP in the Abyss or Rifting, Fortress Sieges (open world), Group/Solo PvP, crafting, gathering, Open Elite mob areas, PVE Instances ... are you playing the same game as i am? Im in my 30s and my quest log is always full since i have so many other options for xp.
Hahaha Aion dosnt hold your hand??????????? It has the biggest handholding carebear feature of any game and its called /LOCATE. shows what NCsfot thought of the IQ of their playerbase when they had to introduce that feature. But even that dsont stope the dense idiots spamming the chat 24/7 in Aion, asking wher eis this, where is that, when actually its located for you, no need to look for anything. SO please dont spout crap aion dosnt hold your hand. Because it holds your hand, and then holds it tight, but even for the thick aion players the /locate function is to hard to use.
They didn't locate everything. And some of the quest there's different location during different time of the day. So the locate actually point you to the wrong location.
But there's always google though, so it doesn't really matter.
I understand why you don't get good exp in group.
But the truth is the fastest way to level up is in a group. For starter, most of the time you want to form small group of 3-4. And make sure it's an efficient group.
If you enjoyed the game and left because of the grind I might suggest you to wait till they add the patch that boosts lots of quests from 25(?) to 50.
Game sucks get over it.
that's a big load of crap. so congratulations for hitting the tone of most of the threads in here.
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that's a big load of crap. so congratulations for hitting the tone of most of the threads in here.
Because you died too many time and lost all the xp, doesn't make this a grinding game.
ah, was already wondering when you would pop in this discussion. and you know that i died often and lost xp from where? the voices in your head? or did somebody say so and you just had to adapt the opinion?
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The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing.
We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
Who the hell still uses xfire, not the general population of an MMO that's who. You can't use xfire for any "real" stats, since more than half the population don't know/won't use it.
Thats like saying voting polls and media surveys are useless. Xfire polls % of the gaming populace 24/7, just because you dont personally use it doesnt mean anything. Eat some humble pie -----> xfire.com.
What you fail to realize is that xfire figures are biased http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_(statistics)
"A biased sample, sometimes classified as a result of selection bias, is one in which some members of the population are more likely to be included than others."
Members of the xfire poulation is not a representative sample of the MMO population in general. It doesnt even try to be that. Therefore you cannot make any conclusion with a high degree of certainty. (e.g. 95%)
You can however draw some conclusions without any degree of certanty if you want. For exapmle I conclude that Aion has peaked in numbers of subscribers in the West based on xfire statistics. My statement is, based on xfire, that Aion will never have more players in the west than it had on Oct 4th 2009.
Originally posted by BishopB:
Are a lot of the trolls just angry kids with old gaming hardware?
Well personally i dont consider Aion to be a grindfest(for now) because i got school and stuff and yet i can still manage to get 1 lvl per day. im at lvl 27 and its pretty much easy. considering the lvl cap is 50 im basically halfway there.
also there is already a lvl 49 SM in our server and plenty of lvl 40s no lifer or w/e its still pretty easy ..the games been out for only about wat? 1month? and lastly your ment to enjoy the pvp and combine it with grind and there is tons of quest in this game.
Xfire isn't used by everyone so that doesn't produce real stats.
Momo sucks, I have proof.
People actually still depend on paid Media outlets to 'shape' their view on games ?
Improve Aion's Graphics with a simple text file that you can create by yourself:
-Increase in-game Field of View to 175% or more
-Increase view distance for players to 100 meters with camera at max distance
-Lots of other settings
Learn how by reading this guide at Aionsource
http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-guides/84379-definite-guide-aions-graphical-settings-performance-tips.html
The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing.
We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.
And AoC never had 3.5 million subs in Asia after a year did they?
Keep trying, your arguments hold no merit without any real facts. Xfire.com ----> humble pie, tasty?
Aion v3 "RELOADED" - A glimpse into the future of the MMO genre
The same was said about AoC the first weeks too you know. when AoC was on top 5 until people reached endgame or hit the area where content was really missing.
We will see in about 6 months time a much better picture if Ncsoft managed to grab hold on the audience in EU/US.
And AoC never had 3.5 million subs in Asia after a year did they?
Keep trying, your arguments hold no merit without any real facts. Xfire.com ----> humble pie, tasty?
What exactly does Asia have to do with the western market? They're complete opposites, atleast concerning playstyle.
And enough about XFire. You were proven wrong 4 pages ago.
how can you take that review seriously with a statement like this:
"Because of the relatively short amount of time I've had with Aion, and, to be honest, a general apathy toward playing any further, I've not yet experienced the so-called "PvPvE"