Now I am not saying WoW is bad in fact its rather good despite the grinding aspect of it. I played WoW since beta and wasn't until couple months ago I finally called it quits. For me I was just burnt out from it was all.
As to why some poeple hate the game (this is only speculation) its rather simplistic which made is successful I am just assuming of course. Its a gear focus game rather in pvp or pve. The lore is good I thought anyways. Now I must admit Wraith of the Lich king expansion bosses kind of took some strategy but I think it could be a little tougher. Overall the gameplay was entertaining despite the gold spammers and the kiddies spouting " can i have some gold"
In conclusion for a casul gamer they would love this game but for hardcore and I mean like EQ hardcore where you actually trained up skills manually and death meant somthing ...then I can see how this game can lose its luster and hatred would take its place. Just my thoughts on this post take for whatever its worth....peace.
Lets leave religion out of this. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. "I would go as far as to say" you are a complete idiot or someone with an agenda. People reaching out for some answers about what happens when you die, and ideas giving them those answers they want has nothing to do with people choosing one video game over another. There is a huge difference between groups of people driven to find the unanswerable and people choosing under no influence which game to play.
Let's not.
It's quite the discussion really. If we are such an advanced race why do we still believe in fairy tales and mythological gods? The people who created these tales come from an even more ignorant time than our own. They actually beleived the earth was flat. No joke.
After 9/11 it only got worse. Google's most popular searches at the time shifted from Britney Spears (as if this wasn't bad enough) to Christianity/Bin Laden/Islam. In times of turmoil people still reach out to religion. Sad that people would rather create their own answers than have the courage to ask questions. I know it sucks to think that we'll never see that lost love one again, but welcome to reality.
Religion has run it's course in my opinion. It was a necessity in the past to help us through times of anarchy. It has served it's purpose. Much like WOW has opened up the world of mmos to the masses. But now it's time we moved on, as the very thing that got us to where we are today, is the very thing that is holding us back.
Just because you were raised to believe in something doesn't make it true. Learn to question. We would all be better off, and so would the earth.
Why does everyone hate World of Warcraft? It obviously can't be that bad if...
Because they are jaded forum uses that have no sense of perspective.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
It's quite the discussion really. If we are such an advanced race why do we still believe in fairy tales and mythological gods? The people who created these tales come from an even more ignorant time than our own. They actually beleived the earth was flat. No joke.
After 9/11 it only got worse. Google's most popular searches at the time shifted from Britney Spears (as if this wasn't bad enough) to Christianity/Bin Laden/Islam. In times of turmoil people still reach out to religion. Sad that people would rather create their own answers than have the courage to ask questions. I know it sucks to think that we'll never see that lost love one again, but welcome to reality.
Religion has run it's course in my opinion. It was a necessity in the past to help us through times of anarchy. It has served it's purpose. Much like WOW has opened up the world of mmos to the masses. But now it's time we moved on, as the very thing that got us to where we are today, is the very thing that is holding us back.
Just because you were raised to believe in something doesn't make it true. Learn to question. We would all be better off, and so would the earth.
If you don't know what a hammer is used for, you probably aren't a carpenter. When your older you might gleam some wisdom that knowledge and tradition are as much tools for your mind as a hammer or saw would be for a carpenter.
I should not of responded to this derailing post
On topic, the number of people that play World of Warcraft does not determine if its a good game for you. Everyone is different, and entertainment is very subjective. So subject yourself to experiences you wish to test and find out what you like or dislike.
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
I don't think all those millions of wow players are part of the mmo player demographic. I am quite certain that most of them will never play another mmorpg again.
This does not change the fact that wow is a good game for alot of people, but perhaps not good for all mmorpg players..
It's quite the discussion really. If we are such an advanced race why do we still believe in fairy tales and mythological gods? The people who created these tales come from an even more ignorant time than our own. They actually beleived the earth was flat. No joke.
After 9/11 it only got worse. Google's most popular searches at the time shifted from Britney Spears (as if this wasn't bad enough) to Christianity/Bin Laden/Islam. In times of turmoil people still reach out to religion. Sad that people would rather create their own answers than have the courage to ask questions. I know it sucks to think that we'll never see that lost love one again, but welcome to reality.
Religion has run it's course in my opinion. It was a necessity in the past to help us through times of anarchy. It has served it's purpose. Much like WOW has opened up the world of mmos to the masses. But now it's time we moved on, as the very thing that got us to where we are today, is the very thing that is holding us back.
Just because you were raised to believe in something doesn't make it true. Learn to question. We would all be better off, and so would the earth.
If you don't know what a hammer is used for, you probably aren't a carpenter. When your older you might GLEAN some wisdom that knowledge and tradition are as much tools for your mind as a hammer or saw would be for a carpenter.
I should NOT'VE (short for "not have") responded to this derailing post
On topic, the number of people that play World of Warcraft does not determine if IT'S a good game for you. Everyone is different, and entertainment is very subjective. So subject yourself to experiences you wish to test and find out what you like or dislike.
If you don't know what a hammer is used for, you probably aren't a carpenter. When your older you might gleam some wisdom that knowledge and tradition are as much tools for your mind as a hammer or saw would be for a carpenter. I should not of responded to this derailing post On topic, the number of people that play World of Warcraft does not determine if its a good game for you. Everyone is different, and entertainment is very subjective. So subject yourself to experiences you wish to test and find out what you like or dislike.
It's scary when you come to the realisation that everything you believe in could be false isn't it?
The hammer/carpenter analogy was weak, sorry.
When people eventually open up their eyes and realize that there are actually other mmos in existence (and other ways of thinking other than primitive religion), that is the day we start getting more games with depth and complexity. That will be a great day.
I don't think all those millions of wow players are part of the mmo player demographic. I am quite certain that most of them will never play another mmorpg again. This does not change the fact that wow is a good game for alot of people, but perhaps not good for all mmorpg players..
Of course the counter theory is that the 'old school' players are no longer a part of the 'mmo player demographic' and their vision of what a MMORPG should be is no longer the 'real' vision.
I don't think all those millions of wow players are part of the mmo player demographic. I am quite certain that most of them will never play another mmorpg again. This does not change the fact that wow is a good game for alot of people, but perhaps not good for all mmorpg players..
Seeing as how they are all MMO players simply by playing WoW and they outnumber all other games, I would say they basically ARE the MMO player demographic at this point. Especially now that so many other games have come out with the exact same gameplay. I would say this new group has taken over the MMO player demographic completely... those of us who have/do prefer different games are now the vocal minority.
I don't think all those millions of wow players are part of the mmo player demographic. I am quite certain that most of them will never play another mmorpg again. This does not change the fact that wow is a good game for alot of people, but perhaps not good for all mmorpg players..
Of course the counter theory is that the 'old school' players are no longer a part of the 'mmo player demographic' and their vision of what a MMORPG should be is no longer the 'real' vision.
To further build on that, I do not think people around here take into consideration just how many players with prior mmo experience are currently playing wow. Sure there are plenty of people who have never played an mmo before wow, but I am willing to bet wow has more mmo vets currently subscribed than the next 5 games have in total population.
Perhaps many wow players will never play another mmo again, but as things stand right now it will not be as a result of them not being "real" mmo players, but rather companies releasing games that are just not compelling enough to leave wow for.
I also do not hate WOW. I hate what it did to MMOs! These games came out and were a challenge, NOTHING was hand fed to you, you had to work for every little thing you got. If you bit off more than you could chew you paid the price (BIG death penalty).
These game were always addictive, but now (not only WOW) every company has made them addictive but un-challenging! Call me stupid, or flame the hell out of me, but I actually miss the days of death penalties, corpse runs, and having to think before running in some where.
I still play EQ2 and they are as guilty of doing this as much as anyone else because of what WOW did! So I guess if WOW had never come along we would all be playing these games the way they use to be. We MMO players would still be a small part of the gaming world because only WOW brought in the masses which was a good thing for out genre, but a bad thing for our beloved game play. /RANT OFF
Ive seen a number of posts where people remark that " I hope (insert game name) doesnt fail because im sick of WOW and need a good game to go to. Hopefully it will be get me out of WOW". Not word for word of such but the general idea is there. Question. If your sick of WOW, why do you need another game to go to before you can walk away from it? I find that strange myself but then again I find many things strange about the worship of WOW.
I don't think all those millions of wow players are part of the mmo player demographic. I am quite certain that most of them will never play another mmorpg again. This does not change the fact that wow is a good game for alot of people, but perhaps not good for all mmorpg players..
Of course the counter theory is that the 'old school' players are no longer a part of the 'mmo player demographic' and their vision of what a MMORPG should be is no longer the 'real' vision.
To further build on that, I do not think people around here take into consideration just how many players with prior mmo experience are currently playing wow. Sure there are plenty of people who have never played an mmo before wow, but I am willing to bet wow has more mmo vets currently subscribed than the next 5 games have in total population.
Perhaps many wow players will never play another mmo again, but as things stand right now it will not be as a result of them not being "real" mmo players, but rather companies releasing games that are just not compelling enough to leave wow for.
Second this.
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
Ive seen a number of posts where people remark that " I hope (insert game name) doesnt fail because im sick of WOW and need a good game to go to. Hopefully it will be get me out of WOW". Not word for word of such but the general idea is there. Question. If your sick of WOW, why do you need another game to go to before you can walk away from it? I find that strange myself but then again I find many things strange about the worship of WOW.
Because we are bored of WoW. Doesnt mean its a bad game,,,, But we would like WoW+Different mechanics and Classes.
IMO the joy of WoW is its combat. It just that the game been out so long, that there is no suprise as to what to expect when Fight/Playing a class.
If Blizzard would Scrap all Classes and replace them with new classes,, or just Change the Spells for classes and revamp how they work, Iam sure many of the bored fanbase would find life in WoW once again.
Problem is, many new MMO dont fit this at all. They try soo hard to be diffrent from WoW, in fear that the MMO Community would flame it, that they add feathers that auto-tosses it into the trash.
Like FFA Loot, Click to Move, Auto Follow Combat, FPS,
Its really simple. WOuld you stand in the middle of a room with 1000 professional game developers if you're trying to get a job and scream WOW SUCKS? Do you think you'd be hired by anyone? Do you think you'd have credibility? Not a shred.
Do you honestly believe that the developers are tyrannical towards wow? Get off your high horse please...
Honestly, you'd be surprised. If you had a good constructive answer to that claim.
Huh, what does that even mean? Tyranical towards WOW=) Any legitimate developer respects what Blizzard has done and understands that WOW is obviously a great MMO and a great game. I go to the GDC fairly regularly and you'd be hard pressed to find any professional speak ill will of Blizzard or WOW. It would be like blasting PIxar if you were in animation. People would look at you like you're insane. Pixar's movies ALL do extremely well and are critical and box office successes. Does that mean PIxar's movies suck because a few num nuts on some forums think so? The numbers speak louder than anyones personal opinion.
A videogame that sells like WOW has, for as long as WOW has AND has critical praise basically is the pure definition of being a great game. What else qualifies? WHat some elitists think? What high horse? Its just facts.
Trying to claim a niche MMO that very few people play and receives pretty average to bad reviews is GREAT is stretching.
If popularity, success, critical acclaim and influence can't determine how good a game is, what's left? Its like saying the BEST selling car which also gets high marks in Consumer Reports and Car and Driver, and then wins car of the year isn't a good car. If that doesn't make the car good, whats heck is left to make it good? Some dood on a blog that says its a crap car? hehe. Hopeless.
Saying that ‘something is good because of the vast number of people who like it’ is foolish.
Britney Spears is vastly popular and she is horrid.
Mac. Donald’s (you know who I mean) is vastly popular and it is horrid.
WoW is in the same range...up there with Mc. Donald’s and Britney Spears.
You only like it because everyone else tells you to like it...it’s a self perpetrating disease. Truth always hurts.
Such idiotic rubbish. Britney spears is horrid because you don't like her? Who died, and made you King of Judgments? I don't like Britney Spears one bit, her music does not appeal to me. Do you think I would be arrogant or moronic enough to tell someone that does. That they have a poor taste in music, or that they are "brainwashed" into believing they like her. Believe it or not, the sun does not rise and set on your ass.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
I would say they basically ARE the MMO player demographic at this point.
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
I would say they basically ARE the MMO player demographic at this point.
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
The thing is ever mmo has people that do that in chat. There isn't one that lacks this quality. The reason it is more common is WoW is because of its massive community.
Originally posted by Finbar Britney Spears is vastly popular and she is horrid.
Fail. Firstly, she isn't that popular. Secondly, Metallica, Rammstein, Marilyn Manson, The 69 Eyes, Depeche Mode, Rob Zombie are all vastly popular too. Are they all horrid? Must you be a totally unknown indie crap singer or band to qualify for not being "horrid"?
Mac. Donalds
Another poor analogy. McDonalds is just cheap. And money isn't unlimited, which you'd know if you weren't a spoiled kiddie living at the expense of your parents. Hint: people don't buy cheap food because it's "popular". They buy it because they don't have money for something better.
WoW is in the same range
No, obviously it's not. Video games aren't art and their popularity doesn't depend entirely on personal taste preferences as it does for music. Video games aren't food, so people aren't bound to play them every day and the choice isn't bound to wallet (at least in most cases).
Since most P2P MMOs cost $15 a month, WoW has no visible advantages other then its unquestionably higher quality.
MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).
I would say they basically ARE the MMO player demographic at this point.
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
The thing is ever mmo has people that do that in chat. There isn't one that lacks this quality. The reason it is more common is WoW is because of its massive community.
Newsflash for all the Detectives out there......it's like this everywhere on the internet.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I would say they basically ARE the MMO player demographic at this point.
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
The thing is ever mmo has people that do that in chat. There isn't one that lacks this quality. The reason it is more common is WoW is because of its massive community.
Newsflash for all the Detectives out there......it's like this everywhere on the internet.
I've played LotRO for over a year now and have not once encountered any behavior that would be considered offensive in even small degrees there. Perhaps this is due to the fact that most of us who play LotRO are older and find such behavior to be the antithesis of a quality gaming experience, but that's mere speculation.
Britney Spears is vastly popular and she is horrid.
Fail. Firstly, she isn't that popular. Secondly, Metallica, Rammstein, Marilyn Manson, The 69 Eyes, Depeche Mode, Rob Zombie are all vastly popular too. Are they all horrid? Must you be a totally unknown indie crap singer or band to qualify for not being "horrid"?
Mac. Donald’s
Another poor analogy. McDonalds is just cheap. And money isn't unlimited, which you'd know if you weren't a spoiled kiddie living at the expense of your parents. Hint: people don't buy cheap food because it's "popular". They buy it because they don't have money for something better.
WoW is in the same range
No, obviously it's not. Video games aren't art and their popularity doesn't depend entirely on personal taste preferences as it does for music. Video games aren't food, so people aren't bound to play them every day and the choice isn't bound to wallet (at least in most cases).
Since most P2P MMOs cost $15 a month, WoW has no visible advantages other then its unquestionably higher quality.
1. Pretty much every band you mentioned - with exception of Depeche Mode - is, in fact, horrible. You fail at your first retort.
2. WoW's "unquestionably higher quality" refers to what, exactly? The larger amount of grind? The more cartoonish graphics? The asininity of its playerbase? I've played many an MMORPG. WoW easily rests in my bottom 5. It was one of the worst experiences I've ever endured in all my years MMOing.
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Interesting post.....
Now I am not saying WoW is bad in fact its rather good despite the grinding aspect of it. I played WoW since beta and wasn't until couple months ago I finally called it quits. For me I was just burnt out from it was all.
As to why some poeple hate the game (this is only speculation) its rather simplistic which made is successful I am just assuming of course. Its a gear focus game rather in pvp or pve. The lore is good I thought anyways. Now I must admit Wraith of the Lich king expansion bosses kind of took some strategy but I think it could be a little tougher. Overall the gameplay was entertaining despite the gold spammers and the kiddies spouting " can i have some gold"
In conclusion for a casul gamer they would love this game but for hardcore and I mean like EQ hardcore where you actually trained up skills manually and death meant somthing ...then I can see how this game can lose its luster and hatred would take its place. Just my thoughts on this post take for whatever its worth....peace.
Let's not.
It's quite the discussion really. If we are such an advanced race why do we still believe in fairy tales and mythological gods? The people who created these tales come from an even more ignorant time than our own. They actually beleived the earth was flat. No joke.
After 9/11 it only got worse. Google's most popular searches at the time shifted from Britney Spears (as if this wasn't bad enough) to Christianity/Bin Laden/Islam. In times of turmoil people still reach out to religion. Sad that people would rather create their own answers than have the courage to ask questions. I know it sucks to think that we'll never see that lost love one again, but welcome to reality.
Religion has run it's course in my opinion. It was a necessity in the past to help us through times of anarchy. It has served it's purpose. Much like WOW has opened up the world of mmos to the masses. But now it's time we moved on, as the very thing that got us to where we are today, is the very thing that is holding us back.
Just because you were raised to believe in something doesn't make it true. Learn to question. We would all be better off, and so would the earth.
Why does everyone hate World of Warcraft? It obviously can't be that bad if...
Because they are jaded forum uses that have no sense of perspective.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
It's quite the discussion really. If we are such an advanced race why do we still believe in fairy tales and mythological gods? The people who created these tales come from an even more ignorant time than our own. They actually beleived the earth was flat. No joke.
After 9/11 it only got worse. Google's most popular searches at the time shifted from Britney Spears (as if this wasn't bad enough) to Christianity/Bin Laden/Islam. In times of turmoil people still reach out to religion. Sad that people would rather create their own answers than have the courage to ask questions. I know it sucks to think that we'll never see that lost love one again, but welcome to reality.
Religion has run it's course in my opinion. It was a necessity in the past to help us through times of anarchy. It has served it's purpose. Much like WOW has opened up the world of mmos to the masses. But now it's time we moved on, as the very thing that got us to where we are today, is the very thing that is holding us back.
Just because you were raised to believe in something doesn't make it true. Learn to question. We would all be better off, and so would the earth.
If you don't know what a hammer is used for, you probably aren't a carpenter. When your older you might gleam some wisdom that knowledge and tradition are as much tools for your mind as a hammer or saw would be for a carpenter.
I should not of responded to this derailing post
On topic, the number of people that play World of Warcraft does not determine if its a good game for you. Everyone is different, and entertainment is very subjective. So subject yourself to experiences you wish to test and find out what you like or dislike.
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
I don't think all those millions of wow players are part of the mmo player demographic. I am quite certain that most of them will never play another mmorpg again.
This does not change the fact that wow is a good game for alot of people, but perhaps not good for all mmorpg players..
It's quite the discussion really. If we are such an advanced race why do we still believe in fairy tales and mythological gods? The people who created these tales come from an even more ignorant time than our own. They actually beleived the earth was flat. No joke.
After 9/11 it only got worse. Google's most popular searches at the time shifted from Britney Spears (as if this wasn't bad enough) to Christianity/Bin Laden/Islam. In times of turmoil people still reach out to religion. Sad that people would rather create their own answers than have the courage to ask questions. I know it sucks to think that we'll never see that lost love one again, but welcome to reality.
Religion has run it's course in my opinion. It was a necessity in the past to help us through times of anarchy. It has served it's purpose. Much like WOW has opened up the world of mmos to the masses. But now it's time we moved on, as the very thing that got us to where we are today, is the very thing that is holding us back.
Just because you were raised to believe in something doesn't make it true. Learn to question. We would all be better off, and so would the earth.
If you don't know what a hammer is used for, you probably aren't a carpenter. When your older you might GLEAN some wisdom that knowledge and tradition are as much tools for your mind as a hammer or saw would be for a carpenter.
I should NOT'VE (short for "not have") responded to this derailing post
On topic, the number of people that play World of Warcraft does not determine if IT'S a good game for you. Everyone is different, and entertainment is very subjective. So subject yourself to experiences you wish to test and find out what you like or dislike.
Fixed by the power of spelling and grammar.
I don't think anyone would get mad at me for like both Star Wars and Shindler's List.
Why should people get upset if I like Eve and WoW?
Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren
It's scary when you come to the realisation that everything you believe in could be false isn't it?
The hammer/carpenter analogy was weak, sorry.
When people eventually open up their eyes and realize that there are actually other mmos in existence (and other ways of thinking other than primitive religion), that is the day we start getting more games with depth and complexity. That will be a great day.
Of course the counter theory is that the 'old school' players are no longer a part of the 'mmo player demographic' and their vision of what a MMORPG should be is no longer the 'real' vision.
Seeing as how they are all MMO players simply by playing WoW and they outnumber all other games, I would say they basically ARE the MMO player demographic at this point. Especially now that so many other games have come out with the exact same gameplay. I would say this new group has taken over the MMO player demographic completely... those of us who have/do prefer different games are now the vocal minority.
Of course the counter theory is that the 'old school' players are no longer a part of the 'mmo player demographic' and their vision of what a MMORPG should be is no longer the 'real' vision.
To further build on that, I do not think people around here take into consideration just how many players with prior mmo experience are currently playing wow. Sure there are plenty of people who have never played an mmo before wow, but I am willing to bet wow has more mmo vets currently subscribed than the next 5 games have in total population.
Perhaps many wow players will never play another mmo again, but as things stand right now it will not be as a result of them not being "real" mmo players, but rather companies releasing games that are just not compelling enough to leave wow for.
I also do not hate WOW. I hate what it did to MMOs! These games came out and were a challenge, NOTHING was hand fed to you, you had to work for every little thing you got. If you bit off more than you could chew you paid the price (BIG death penalty).
These game were always addictive, but now (not only WOW) every company has made them addictive but un-challenging! Call me stupid, or flame the hell out of me, but I actually miss the days of death penalties, corpse runs, and having to think before running in some where.
I still play EQ2 and they are as guilty of doing this as much as anyone else because of what WOW did! So I guess if WOW had never come along we would all be playing these games the way they use to be. We MMO players would still be a small part of the gaming world because only WOW brought in the masses which was a good thing for out genre, but a bad thing for our beloved game play. /RANT OFF
that is so true.the 1 and only truth there is.
People doesnt hate WoW MMORPG,truth is that WoW hates MMORPG´s.
Only 1 question still remains:why do they wanna call it to MMORPG?
Generation P
Ive seen a number of posts where people remark that " I hope (insert game name) doesnt fail because im sick of WOW and need a good game to go to. Hopefully it will be get me out of WOW". Not word for word of such but the general idea is there. Question. If your sick of WOW, why do you need another game to go to before you can walk away from it? I find that strange myself but then again I find many things strange about the worship of WOW.
Saying that ‘something is good because of the vast number of people who like it’ is foolish.
Britney Spears is vastly popular and she is horrid.
Mac. Donald’s (you know who I mean) is vastly popular and it is horrid.
WoW is in the same range...up there with Mc. Donald’s and Britney Spears.
You only like it because everyone else tells you to like it...it’s a self perpetrating disease. Truth always hurts.
FINBAR
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Of course the counter theory is that the 'old school' players are no longer a part of the 'mmo player demographic' and their vision of what a MMORPG should be is no longer the 'real' vision.
To further build on that, I do not think people around here take into consideration just how many players with prior mmo experience are currently playing wow. Sure there are plenty of people who have never played an mmo before wow, but I am willing to bet wow has more mmo vets currently subscribed than the next 5 games have in total population.
Perhaps many wow players will never play another mmo again, but as things stand right now it will not be as a result of them not being "real" mmo players, but rather companies releasing games that are just not compelling enough to leave wow for.
Second this.
Nothing excites jaded Grandmasters more than a theoretical novelty
Because we are bored of WoW. Doesnt mean its a bad game,,,, But we would like WoW+Different mechanics and Classes.
IMO the joy of WoW is its combat. It just that the game been out so long, that there is no suprise as to what to expect when Fight/Playing a class.
If Blizzard would Scrap all Classes and replace them with new classes,, or just Change the Spells for classes and revamp how they work, Iam sure many of the bored fanbase would find life in WoW once again.
Problem is, many new MMO dont fit this at all. They try soo hard to be diffrent from WoW, in fear that the MMO Community would flame it, that they add feathers that auto-tosses it into the trash.
Like FFA Loot, Click to Move, Auto Follow Combat, FPS,
Do you honestly believe that the developers are tyrannical towards wow? Get off your high horse please...
Honestly, you'd be surprised. If you had a good constructive answer to that claim.
Huh, what does that even mean? Tyranical towards WOW=) Any legitimate developer respects what Blizzard has done and understands that WOW is obviously a great MMO and a great game. I go to the GDC fairly regularly and you'd be hard pressed to find any professional speak ill will of Blizzard or WOW. It would be like blasting PIxar if you were in animation. People would look at you like you're insane. Pixar's movies ALL do extremely well and are critical and box office successes. Does that mean PIxar's movies suck because a few num nuts on some forums think so? The numbers speak louder than anyones personal opinion.
A videogame that sells like WOW has, for as long as WOW has AND has critical praise basically is the pure definition of being a great game. What else qualifies? WHat some elitists think? What high horse? Its just facts.
Trying to claim a niche MMO that very few people play and receives pretty average to bad reviews is GREAT is stretching.
If popularity, success, critical acclaim and influence can't determine how good a game is, what's left? Its like saying the BEST selling car which also gets high marks in Consumer Reports and Car and Driver, and then wins car of the year isn't a good car. If that doesn't make the car good, whats heck is left to make it good? Some dood on a blog that says its a crap car? hehe. Hopeless.
Such idiotic rubbish. Britney spears is horrid because you don't like her? Who died, and made you King of Judgments? I don't like Britney Spears one bit, her music does not appeal to me. Do you think I would be arrogant or moronic enough to tell someone that does. That they have a poor taste in music, or that they are "brainwashed" into believing they like her. Believe it or not, the sun does not rise and set on your ass.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
The thing is ever mmo has people that do that in chat. There isn't one that lacks this quality. The reason it is more common is WoW is because of its massive community.
Another poor analogy. McDonalds is just cheap. And money isn't unlimited, which you'd know if you weren't a spoiled kiddie living at the expense of your parents. Hint: people don't buy cheap food because it's "popular". They buy it because they don't have money for something better.
No, obviously it's not. Video games aren't art and their popularity doesn't depend entirely on personal taste preferences as it does for music. Video games aren't food, so people aren't bound to play them every day and the choice isn't bound to wallet (at least in most cases).
Since most P2P MMOs cost $15 a month, WoW has no visible advantages other then its unquestionably higher quality.
MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
The thing is ever mmo has people that do that in chat. There isn't one that lacks this quality. The reason it is more common is WoW is because of its massive community.
Newsflash for all the Detectives out there......it's like this everywhere on the internet.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
And that's a frightening thought. The rude, immature, dickwaving, "lol n00b fgt" nonsense doesn't represent me, and I've been MMOing since UO launched.
The thing is ever mmo has people that do that in chat. There isn't one that lacks this quality. The reason it is more common is WoW is because of its massive community.
Newsflash for all the Detectives out there......it's like this everywhere on the internet.
I've played LotRO for over a year now and have not once encountered any behavior that would be considered offensive in even small degrees there. Perhaps this is due to the fact that most of us who play LotRO are older and find such behavior to be the antithesis of a quality gaming experience, but that's mere speculation.
Another poor analogy. McDonalds is just cheap. And money isn't unlimited, which you'd know if you weren't a spoiled kiddie living at the expense of your parents. Hint: people don't buy cheap food because it's "popular". They buy it because they don't have money for something better.
No, obviously it's not. Video games aren't art and their popularity doesn't depend entirely on personal taste preferences as it does for music. Video games aren't food, so people aren't bound to play them every day and the choice isn't bound to wallet (at least in most cases).
Since most P2P MMOs cost $15 a month, WoW has no visible advantages other then its unquestionably higher quality.
1. Pretty much every band you mentioned - with exception of Depeche Mode - is, in fact, horrible. You fail at your first retort.
2. WoW's "unquestionably higher quality" refers to what, exactly? The larger amount of grind? The more cartoonish graphics? The asininity of its playerbase? I've played many an MMORPG. WoW easily rests in my bottom 5. It was one of the worst experiences I've ever endured in all my years MMOing.