Oh god, I never thought hearsay can completely fuck up the telling of something this much. I read the original thread posted by the guy who got killed. All of the following was said by said guy and a guy who looted a few things. The guy was all geared and ready to kill mobs with his staff and reagents when a window suddenly popped up asking whether he wanted to accept a GM teleport or not. Thinking that it would be wise to, he accepted it. Bam, he landed in an Alfar city. The tower attacks him. Some guy shoots him twice. He dies. The GM apologizes and PMs the people near the corpse, asking them to not loot. The guy who shot him twice got 2 staffs or something. The rest was taken by other people. What was lost? A few stacks of reagents, some staffs, and his gear.
From what was posted when I read the thread, I'm pretty sure the guy who died and lost his shit pretty much accepted his loss. Posting on the forum was to let people know, and to get some laughs.
Then, the thread gets deleted. People start telling other people. Crap spirals out of control, and you get this thread. Edit: Oh, the thread didn't get deleted, every post other than the OP did: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=238725 That post sounds angry, but my impression was that his posts slowly lost his edge as he posted more. Of course, there were people prodding him and such. Forumfall after all. I think two people who watched him die also posted.
Even if dude eventually accepted his loss this is still fucking bullshit. This kind of behavior is not what a GM should be doing. Add one more reason why NOT to play this game. lol
There have been rampant rumors of GM's in alliances/clans abusing powers in game.. Today a thread surfaced about a player who was teleported by a GM where an enemy player was waiting for him to kill and gank. Afterwards the GM refused to refund the players items.. Allowed the enemy players to loot his body and basically told him to "contact support" and stuff it.. The player obviously went straight to the forums to get some closure and since every thread about the subject has been sensored and locked and or deleted. Another case of a corrupt company running a corrupt game that doesn't even work.. I've canceled my subs after this, I hope everyone follows.
2 things.
First, it's understandable that they cannot refund items, it could cause various issues even in some cases like this.
Second, did he send a support ticket? Because according to this thread, he did not. And in this case, that's a fail on this part. The only reason why "Bill Brasky" had to post on the forum was to vent and QQ while the issue could've been resolved on the support. Yes that GM is horrible, but we all know that posting these type of things on the forum always gets the thread closed, not because they want to cover up this issue, but because it always creates bullshit.
Send a support ticket first and wait for a response. It's not rocket science.
Also, to your last post "Aventurine is clueless", the acts of a bad apple does not represent the whole company, get your shit rights.
HAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA this made me pee my pants, with the bill brasky line, ho god i love these forums.
They should give killed guy 2 free months - and forget about whole issue.
Refunding items lost due to game bugs will mean that GMs will do nothing else but trying to explain what happen to particular item, and if they should refund it or not.
BTW I'm pretty sure that it happened on NA-1 server. On EU-1 guy would be laughted at for creating so much drama over few lost items, and then someone would give him nice set of gear out of pity - or just to stop his whining.
They should give killed guy 2 free months - and forget about whole issue. Refunding items lost due to game bugs will mean that GMs will do nothing else but trying to explain what happen to particular item, and if they should refund it or not. BTW I'm pretty sure that it happened on NA-1 server. On EU-1 guy would be laughted at for creating so much drama over few lost items, and then someone would give him nice set of gear out of pity - or just to stop his whining.
Agreed, a couple of staffs and some regs + a GM mistake + a players mistake = this ... quite silly really.
I mean the GM made a mistake of asking him for a teleport by accident, seems he was going to teleport some Alfar guy that was stuck or something. The player then makes his own titanic screw up by accepting it for some strange reason, he dies and loses some staffs and regs ... BFD! If he'd sent in a ticket he'd no doubt have been re imbursed by now.
I don't understand the hulabaloo about it and why a slew of haters are going crazy over this like starving rabid wolves fighting over a piece of meat in a pit! In the last 6 months this has been the only little tit bit of sustinance these guys have had to chew on and I sense they aren't going to let this go until they've consumed it and regurgitated it several times over.
Corruption happens in MMORPGs, some worse than others. I played EVE where DEVs helped out their buddies to win wars, get more ISK, spy for them and win events in game. After a few years it was common knowledge. As for DFO I can't say I've witnessed or even heard of any, this was a mistake on both the GMs part and the players part.
It's like me getting a loaded gun and pointing it at your knee cap and asking if you want me to pull the trigger. You say yes and get your knee cap blown out then go crying about it. Well yeah I'm responsible but you're still a ****ing idiot though, we both screwed up because I thought you were someone else and you just didn't think about what you were accepting. They're both equally responsible but yeah he should get his gear back and probably would have it now if he had put a ticket in!
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They should give killed guy 2 free months - and forget about whole issue. Refunding items lost due to game bugs will mean that GMs will do nothing else but trying to explain what happen to particular item, and if they should refund it or not. BTW I'm pretty sure that it happened on NA-1 server. On EU-1 guy would be laughted at for creating so much drama over few lost items, and then someone would give him nice set of gear out of pity - or just to stop his whining.
I agree some form of compensation would be acceptable if he went the right way about putting in the complaint via.
Via a ticket.
But due to him shooting his mouth across forums and trying to cause destruction I agree that banning and so forth is the correct route. Yes he might complain to "10,000 people" as another poster stated but an example needs to be set shooting your mouth off does not get you what you want.
I deal with customers the moment you start being aggressive/rude/destructive and start trying to sabotage things you get a nice word of warning of which if you continue, in this case create more forum posts then game over.
Trying to bully companies into things that they might well have sorted and given you more in the first place if you were calm and collective about it, is not the way to go.
Yes the company is in the wrong for the mistake they made but the customer never gave them the chance to rectify it in the first place. Saying the GM should contact support and solve it is all good and well if that works but the reason he may not of offered to do that could be that support would just respond with we need the ticket to be done by the player.
What ponders me a bit is the player who purposely looted the other players corpse while being told by a GM explicit not to do so.
In EVE that would have resulted in a banning, temporary as it might be. The Zombie Corp incident in Yulai comes to mind.
Of course that would also have brought an outcry on the forums, especially among "hardcore" PvP's. But like unruly dogs they sometimes need a bit of beating to recognize who is in charge (the GMs, not themselves) and by the end of the day the game will prosper from that.
What ponders me a bit is the player who purposely looted the other players corpse while being told by a GM explicit not to do so.
In EVE that would have resulted in a banning, temporary as it might be. The Zombie Corp incident in Yulai comes to mind. Of course that would also have brought an outcry on the forums, especially among "hardcore" PvP's. But like unruly dogs they sometimes need a bit of beating to recognize who is in charge (the GMs, not themselves) and by the end of the day the game will prosper from that.
Am I the only one that thinks it's cool that the random guy could loot and there was nothing the GM could do about it? When Darkfall says it's a full-loot game, they really mean it!
So, one one hand it is cool when the GMs have no power so you are free to do what ever you want, while it is not cool when the GMs have no power as they then can't imediatly reimburse lost items. Maybe just get rid of the GMs altogether and let anarchy reign supreme. If you get permantly stuck or account hacked just think of it as permanent death. Drakfall is for the "hardcore" afterall.
So, the GM was having a bad day and made it such the player had a bad day too? Why would you want to play this game if indeed this is the attitude of the GM?
There was a recent incident where a GM teleported a player to the wrong place, the player's character ending up being killed and looted causing an uproar in the community with allegations of GM corruption etc. We looked into this to find out what happened exactly and the lead GM has explained:
It seems that the GM used the wrong command and instead of transporting to the player, he transported the player to him. This was a new GM, obviously not familiar enough with his tool-set. To make matters worse, his handling of the situation left much to be desired. This was not an issue of corruption, it was an issue of inexperience.
The aftermath: Support has been in communication with the player to try and reverse the damage, and the GM has been removed from his position for his handling of the situation in an unprofessional manner.
Aventurine support would like to apologize for this incident and to assure the community that all GM activity is monitored closely. If you would like to report GM conduct, then you should use http://support.darkfallonline.com (EU1) or http://support.us.darkfallonline.com (NA1) to do so.
The GMs and Aventurine support have investigated and handled hundreds of thousands of incidents and support tickets successfully and promptly. Unfortunately but understandably, the rare negative incident tends to takes the spotlight.
I cant really understand the problem... I ve read this thread and cant really get a grip of it. Is it that a misstake is being made and the gloom and doom guys are having their best time ever?
I cant really understand the problem... I ve read this thread and cant really get a grip of it. Is it that a misstake is being made and the gloom and doom guys are having their best time ever?
Pretty much, there has been nothing to feed these people for over 6 months so this is like mana from heaven to these guys.
GM made a dumb mistake then the player made a dumb mistake by accepting the teleport and now he's been even dumber by posting it on the forums instead of just getting his stuff back.
It's Dumb and Dumber nothing more.
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"Edit: Source: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=4129706#post4129706 " There was a recent incident where a GM teleported a player to the wrong place, the player's character ending up being killed and looted causing an uproar in the community with allegations of GM corruption etc. We looked into this to find out what happened exactly and the lead GM has explained: It seems that the GM used the wrong command and instead of transporting to the player, he transported the player to him. This was a new GM, obviously not familiar enough with his tool-set. To make matters worse, his handling of the situation left much to be desired. This was not an issue of corruption, it was an issue of inexperience. The aftermath: Support has been in communication with the player to try and reverse the damage, and the GM has been removed from his position for his handling of the situation in an unprofessional manner. Aventurine support would like to apologize for this incident and to assure the community that all GM activity is monitored closely. If you would like to report GM conduct, then you should use http://support.darkfallonline.com (EU1) or http://support.us.darkfallonline.com (NA1) to do so. The GMs and Aventurine support have investigated and handled hundreds of thousands of incidents and support tickets successfully and promptly. Unfortunately but understandably, the rare negative incident tends to takes the spotlight.
This (if true) and Eve show that a game based around player vs player competition should not allow the people that make the game to play, at the least should be strictly monitored with a full disclosure policy of activities that other players that do not work for the company do not suffer from. People always tend to sink to the lowest level in games.
WAU..i can't really believe that this GM got finally fired becuase of such stupid reason. Bill got his will by whine, moan and pillory.
Justified enough to get his stuff back but these gets simply too far IMO.
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damn you have to love haters that ignore the fact that only Admins can spawn items in darkfall and this haters still rant
bump this thread all the time so darkfall get more hits and u cry again that darkfall is number one on hits on this site because of bots abd exploits
It may be number one but not for positive reasons. Everybody cant help but check out a train wreck, and Darkfall has become the big pile of smoldering wreckage that ppl cant get enough of. Until AV can at least act like it wants to retain its customers you will continue to these "train wrecks" on the forums.
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I'm not going to judge the situation (i.e. the player or the GM), but I will say this about MMO policies and their subscriber-base.
When MMO companies treat their players like real customers...for example, timely customer service response, "the customer is always right", etc., their people are happy.
But when the company is extremely one-sided and strict on policy, people start to quit. Yes, that's right, and I'll explain.
It is, after all, a business. And in a business, customer satisfaction is the number one form of advertisement. Players love talking about an awesome game, but players also love telling horror stories about how badly a company treats them.
And therefore, items really mean nothing. AV shouldn't even care about items; they are, after all, temporary and have durability factors. Always err in favor of the player and -- yes -- you'd have some people try to abuse that kindness, but you'll also have a loyal following.
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Originally posted by DarthRaiden
WAU..i can't really believe that this GM got finally fired becuase of such stupid reason. Bill got his will by whine, moan and pillory. Justified enough to get his stuff back but these gets simply too far IMO.
I'd have to agree for the most part. Aventurine seems to overreact. All that needed to occur was some monetary or item compensation. Making mistakes is a part of life (and MMO playing).
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Originally posted by Hhussk Originally posted by DarthRaiden WAU..i can't really believe that this GM got finally fired becuase of such stupid reason. Bill got his will by whine, moan and pillory. Justified enough to get his stuff back but these gets simply too far IMO.
I'd have to agree for the most part. Aventurine seems to overreact. All that needed to occur was some monetary or item compensation. Making mistakes is a part of life (and MMO playing).
Look at this thread to see how many clueless haters posted about how shitty game is because of this one mistake. It turns out later it had nothing to do with GM teleporting player to some spot where someone else was waiting. It was NPC city, some newbs looted this guy and he accepted GM teleport but still a lot of people just come here and say how shitty DF is. AV sadly had no other choice to shut them up.
So in the end it appears a GM made a mistake, then looks like he should have helped the player out more than he did, perhaps by contacting the Admins on the player's behalf. Because he failed to do so he was removed from his position.
In the end, a minor incident in a pvp game, nothing worth worrying about.
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damn you have to love haters that ignore the fact that only Admins can spawn items in darkfall and this haters still rant
bump this thread all the time so darkfall get more hits and u cry again that darkfall is number one on hits on this site because of bots abd exploits
It may be number one but not for positive reasons. Everybody cant help but check out a train wreck, and Darkfall has become the big pile of smoldering wreckage that ppl cant get enough of. Until AV can at least act like it wants to retain its customers you will continue to these "train wrecks" on the forums.
Considering the hype before launch and the fact that we are talking about a small indy company, I don't think the game is doing that bad. Clearly problem exist, but sandbox's really do hinge on content development over time and changes to the game play. It seems they have a strong base of hardcore PVP fans, and I'm not sure they could have expected much more at this point.
Now if people are playing this exact same game in 3 years, that will be a train wreck.
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So one instance in which a GM makes a mistake is equivalent to GMs hunting down players for fun?
I wonder why people like to negatively blow things out of proportion so much.
Even if dude eventually accepted his loss this is still fucking bullshit. This kind of behavior is not what a GM should be doing. Add one more reason why NOT to play this game. lol
2 things.
First, it's understandable that they cannot refund items, it could cause various issues even in some cases like this.
Second, did he send a support ticket? Because according to this thread, he did not. And in this case, that's a fail on this part. The only reason why "Bill Brasky" had to post on the forum was to vent and QQ while the issue could've been resolved on the support. Yes that GM is horrible, but we all know that posting these type of things on the forum always gets the thread closed, not because they want to cover up this issue, but because it always creates bullshit.
Send a support ticket first and wait for a response. It's not rocket science.
Also, to your last post "Aventurine is clueless", the acts of a bad apple does not represent the whole company, get your shit rights.
HAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA this made me pee my pants, with the bill brasky line, ho god i love these forums.
So you want GMs to be infallible robots who never make errors?
Or do you want GMs to take forever to do a single action because they're afraid they might make a mistake?
Again, the GM didn't do it on purpose.
just another reason for me to despise open pvp games
glad i didnt follow my friends to this game i would of bean out some money
even though even they only lasted a month with the game :P
They should give killed guy 2 free months - and forget about whole issue.
Refunding items lost due to game bugs will mean that GMs will do nothing else but trying to explain what happen to particular item, and if they should refund it or not.
BTW I'm pretty sure that it happened on NA-1 server. On EU-1 guy would be laughted at for creating so much drama over few lost items, and then someone would give him nice set of gear out of pity - or just to stop his whining.
Agreed, a couple of staffs and some regs + a GM mistake + a players mistake = this ... quite silly really.
I mean the GM made a mistake of asking him for a teleport by accident, seems he was going to teleport some Alfar guy that was stuck or something. The player then makes his own titanic screw up by accepting it for some strange reason, he dies and loses some staffs and regs ... BFD! If he'd sent in a ticket he'd no doubt have been re imbursed by now.
I don't understand the hulabaloo about it and why a slew of haters are going crazy over this like starving rabid wolves fighting over a piece of meat in a pit! In the last 6 months this has been the only little tit bit of sustinance these guys have had to chew on and I sense they aren't going to let this go until they've consumed it and regurgitated it several times over.
Corruption happens in MMORPGs, some worse than others. I played EVE where DEVs helped out their buddies to win wars, get more ISK, spy for them and win events in game. After a few years it was common knowledge. As for DFO I can't say I've witnessed or even heard of any, this was a mistake on both the GMs part and the players part.
It's like me getting a loaded gun and pointing it at your knee cap and asking if you want me to pull the trigger. You say yes and get your knee cap blown out then go crying about it. Well yeah I'm responsible but you're still a ****ing idiot though, we both screwed up because I thought you were someone else and you just didn't think about what you were accepting. They're both equally responsible but yeah he should get his gear back and probably would have it now if he had put a ticket in!
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CS Lewis
I agree some form of compensation would be acceptable if he went the right way about putting in the complaint via.
Via a ticket.
But due to him shooting his mouth across forums and trying to cause destruction I agree that banning and so forth is the correct route. Yes he might complain to "10,000 people" as another poster stated but an example needs to be set shooting your mouth off does not get you what you want.
I deal with customers the moment you start being aggressive/rude/destructive and start trying to sabotage things you get a nice word of warning of which if you continue, in this case create more forum posts then game over.
Trying to bully companies into things that they might well have sorted and given you more in the first place if you were calm and collective about it, is not the way to go.
Yes the company is in the wrong for the mistake they made but the customer never gave them the chance to rectify it in the first place. Saying the GM should contact support and solve it is all good and well if that works but the reason he may not of offered to do that could be that support would just respond with we need the ticket to be done by the player.
What ponders me a bit is the player who purposely looted the other players corpse while being told by a GM explicit not to do so.
In EVE that would have resulted in a banning, temporary as it might be. The Zombie Corp incident in Yulai comes to mind.
Of course that would also have brought an outcry on the forums, especially among "hardcore" PvP's. But like unruly dogs they sometimes need a bit of beating to recognize who is in charge (the GMs, not themselves) and by the end of the day the game will prosper from that.
Am I the only one that thinks it's cool that the random guy could loot and there was nothing the GM could do about it? When Darkfall says it's a full-loot game, they really mean it!
This is what happens when you sub out duties to china, sorry no speak it, file tickut.
So, one one hand it is cool when the GMs have no power so you are free to do what ever you want, while it is not cool when the GMs have no power as they then can't imediatly reimburse lost items. Maybe just get rid of the GMs altogether and let anarchy reign supreme. If you get permantly stuck or account hacked just think of it as permanent death. Drakfall is for the "hardcore" afterall.
So, the GM was having a bad day and made it such the player had a bad day too? Why would you want to play this game if indeed this is the attitude of the GM?
"Edit: Source: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=4129706#post4129706 "
There was a recent incident where a GM teleported a player to the wrong place, the player's character ending up being killed and looted causing an uproar in the community with allegations of GM corruption etc. We looked into this to find out what happened exactly and the lead GM has explained:
It seems that the GM used the wrong command and instead of transporting to the player, he transported the player to him. This was a new GM, obviously not familiar enough with his tool-set. To make matters worse, his handling of the situation left much to be desired. This was not an issue of corruption, it was an issue of inexperience.
The aftermath: Support has been in communication with the player to try and reverse the damage, and the GM has been removed from his position for his handling of the situation in an unprofessional manner.
Aventurine support would like to apologize for this incident and to assure the community that all GM activity is monitored closely. If you would like to report GM conduct, then you should use http://support.darkfallonline.com (EU1) or http://support.us.darkfallonline.com (NA1) to do so.
The GMs and Aventurine support have investigated and handled hundreds of thousands of incidents and support tickets successfully and promptly. Unfortunately but understandably, the rare negative incident tends to takes the spotlight.
I cant really understand the problem... I ve read this thread and cant really get a grip of it. Is it that a misstake is being made and the gloom and doom guys are having their best time ever?
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Pretty much, there has been nothing to feed these people for over 6 months so this is like mana from heaven to these guys.
GM made a dumb mistake then the player made a dumb mistake by accepting the teleport and now he's been even dumber by posting it on the forums instead of just getting his stuff back.
It's Dumb and Dumber nothing more.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I should get a cookie.
This (if true) and Eve show that a game based around player vs player competition should not allow the people that make the game to play, at the least should be strictly monitored with a full disclosure policy of activities that other players that do not work for the company do not suffer from. People always tend to sink to the lowest level in games.
WAU..i can't really believe that this GM got finally fired becuase of such stupid reason. Bill got his will by whine, moan and pillory.
Justified enough to get his stuff back but these gets simply too far IMO.
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-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
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It may be number one but not for positive reasons. Everybody cant help but check out a train wreck, and Darkfall has become the big pile of smoldering wreckage that ppl cant get enough of. Until AV can at least act like it wants to retain its customers you will continue to these "train wrecks" on the forums.
I'm not going to judge the situation (i.e. the player or the GM), but I will say this about MMO policies and their subscriber-base.
When MMO companies treat their players like real customers...for example, timely customer service response, "the customer is always right", etc., their people are happy.
But when the company is extremely one-sided and strict on policy, people start to quit. Yes, that's right, and I'll explain.
It is, after all, a business. And in a business, customer satisfaction is the number one form of advertisement. Players love talking about an awesome game, but players also love telling horror stories about how badly a company treats them.
And therefore, items really mean nothing. AV shouldn't even care about items; they are, after all, temporary and have durability factors. Always err in favor of the player and -- yes -- you'd have some people try to abuse that kindness, but you'll also have a loyal following.
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I'd have to agree for the most part. Aventurine seems to overreact. All that needed to occur was some monetary or item compensation. Making mistakes is a part of life (and MMO playing).
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I'd have to agree for the most part. Aventurine seems to overreact. All that needed to occur was some monetary or item compensation. Making mistakes is a part of life (and MMO playing).
Look at this thread to see how many clueless haters posted about how shitty game is because of this one mistake. It turns out later it had nothing to do with GM teleporting player to some spot where someone else was waiting. It was NPC city, some newbs looted this guy and he accepted GM teleport but still a lot of people just come here and say how shitty DF is. AV sadly had no other choice to shut them up.
So in the end it appears a GM made a mistake, then looks like he should have helped the player out more than he did, perhaps by contacting the Admins on the player's behalf. Because he failed to do so he was removed from his position.
In the end, a minor incident in a pvp game, nothing worth worrying about.
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It may be number one but not for positive reasons. Everybody cant help but check out a train wreck, and Darkfall has become the big pile of smoldering wreckage that ppl cant get enough of. Until AV can at least act like it wants to retain its customers you will continue to these "train wrecks" on the forums.
Considering the hype before launch and the fact that we are talking about a small indy company, I don't think the game is doing that bad. Clearly problem exist, but sandbox's really do hinge on content development over time and changes to the game play. It seems they have a strong base of hardcore PVP fans, and I'm not sure they could have expected much more at this point.
Now if people are playing this exact same game in 3 years, that will be a train wreck.