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Hello people i just had to cancel to my subscription STAR TREK ONLINE because my name on sto was alien420jc and they said it was a reference to dope, even thought ive been with them using this name since STO was first talked about.. and after playing for a few months they all of a sudden say its badname..i told them I used it as a bowling name, email, and other games like WOW... they said they didnt care it was a reference to drugs( funny thing is even the cops dont know what 420 means), i told them that i have friends and family that are willing to quit due to this and they said theyre more than welcome to quit. i demanded a refund for all ive spent in the game and told me the only refund im getting is the monthly payment closes to this date back and nothing more( but theyre not give all refunds to people like in the forum above me.. i guess theyre only giving refunds to certain people, i dont know about you but that sounds kinda fishy to me)... not what i spent on crytic points or the game. about the points, they told me no because i spent them already and i told them yea because i thought i was going to be playing the game for awhile and told me OH WELL...they erased my in game mail also even when i had items in the mail from another char. and now theyre gone. someone or some people need to put Crytic in theyre place.
Good lord, I hope that's not true. Even the things Cryptic is good at (character customization) don't really suit the IP, let alone all the things they've proven they can't do... twice.
So... they demanded a username change, which you refused, so they banned you, so you asked for a full refund for everything, to which they wouldn't accomodate you.
Oh and every cop knows about 420 lol, Hitler's birthday!
Disagree about char customization not suiting D&D. D&D would be a lot more fun if you could have characters that are your own as far as looks go. DDO sucks IMO and only a few things do they have right as far as how I feel an MMO should be.
If I remember correctly, much of the hate DDO received was because of how small and instanced the world was. I played DDO for a month when I found a box for sale for $5, and if anything, STO is worse when it comes to being small and instanced. I doubt a D&D MMO from Cryptic would be received any better, given the crappy engine they try to shoehorn their games into.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff,_the_Magic_Dragon
After the song's initial success, speculation arose that the song contained veiled references to smoking marijuana. For example, the word "paper" in the name of Puff's human friend (Jackie Paper) was said to be a reference to rolling papers, and the word "dragon" was interpreted as "draggin'," i.e. inhaling smoke; similarly, the name "Puff" was alleged to be a reference to taking a "puff" on a joint. The supposition was claimed to be common knowledge in a letter by a member of the public (who offered no qualifications for his expertise on the topic) to The New York Times in 1984
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On one occasion, during a live performance, Yarrow mocked the drug-related interpretations by reciting his own tongue-in-cheek drug-related reinterpretation of "The Star-Spangled Banner", and ended by saying, "You can wreck anything with that kind of idiotic analysis."
Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.
Yep, even Turbine admitted that having everyone stuck in just one city was a mistake.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
They were working on a NWN MMO (or possibly another MMO based off of D&D, but the safe money was on the NWN franchise being made as an MMO), but Hasbro/WotC has sued Atari to revoke Atari's license to make anything more based off of D&D. That is probably why Cryptic is talking about making MMOs in the future based off their own unique settings instead of existing IPs.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
That's correct; in fact, character customization was at the heart of the D20 system. Luckily, there are a few companies that are getting better at character customization. APB, while perhaps not strictly speaking a MMO, has a character customization (clothing and vehicle customizations as well) that Cryptic can only dream of implementing.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
They will never get my support for anything they make again! ... NWN ...needs a better developer.... if they do it ..its going to be another missed opportunity ....
Cryptic needs to go home?
There is little doubt that they are/were working on NWN. Apparently they borrowed some sound effects from there in STO:
"If you actually go into STO's .hogg files there are some ambient sound files with the name Neverwinter_name of sound instead of STO_name of sound and it looks like STO "borrowed" a few sound files for their ground based missions on planets."
http://www.massively.com/2010/03/16/bill-roper-no-longer-executive-producer-of-champions-online-game-improvements-promised/
That doesn't surprise me. The Forgotten realms setting, and the NWN area in particular, have probably been the most financially successful of the D&D based games; it makes sense that they would focus on that setting, rather than go with a setting people don't know very well like they did with DDO. I'm not sure if there is currently an injunction regarding them continuing work on any NWN MMO, but if they have any brain cells at all left they would hold off until after the court makes its decision. Then again, a working brain doesn't seem to be a requirement for the decision makers at Cryptic and Atari.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
I just updated the original post again...
"CDF" ..Traitor ... trying to cover his tracks.. .. lol
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=152054
They recycle audio alot. For example, your footsteps on metal in STO are the same ones as in Champions Online, and even CoX before it. Seeing as how CoX's sounds were over the top for even the superhero games, they sound flat out silly in STO. NWN will probably be even worse.
Did anyone else get annoyed at the "kasplodey" sound that happens when you launch from the title screen? A cartoony explosion sound to launch a trek game? REALLY???
Interestingly enough, CoH will be getting a major sound overhaul in Issue 17.
They use a lot of recycled audio in LOTRO. A lot of the sounds I noticed are from AC2. I don't have a problem with it in STO.
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
If AC2 was a space or superhero game, there'd be reason to be annoyed. DDO also has sound effects from LotRO(vice versa, actually) and AC2, but seeing as how they're all fantasy games, it's not much of an issue.
Taking intentionally cartoony sound fx from a comic book game and putting them in Star Trek... well... the kerplodey launch FX signal what's to come.
Kirk strikes the beast with a mighty two-fisted blow(cue howitzer sound FX)...
What kills me is the number of people(including me) telling others just how empty and shallow the game was and yet people still bought into it. Oh well...live and learn.
Excellent!
Methinx I might actually get that expansion. I haven't subbed in a long time, but I always try to get in for the free weekends. It's pretty clear to me now which team retained most of Cryptics talent.
I have two friends that play it. Boggles my mind a bit (but to be fair I don't think they hold games/movies/etc to high standards in general). That said, the game doesn't have a chance in hell of retaining them once a good non-WoW mmo comes out (like ToR).
i did play it... but yeah never held my interests as much as Fallen Earth and a couple of others do... hell i'd rather play WoW than this... and that's saying a lot....
did find myself on that captains profile... shame my character looks nothing like it does in that portrait:
http://www.startrekonline.com/character_profiles/500174/view
maybe the "july" messiah patch may be worth it.... but to be honest there's better MMO's out there, unfortunately not that many Sci Fi ones..... STO just makes me miss "tabula rasa"
"nothing actually matters, we're just slightly evolved monkeys clinging to a dying piece of rock hurtling through space waiting for our eventual death." - Frankie Boyle, Mock The Week
Good point. I think that Champions Online was fun for a very short while, but it seems Cryptic is trying to become the Wal-Mart of MMORPGs. They get a good idea or a good license and run with it as quickly as they can from development to release. It's like CO and STO were made with the expectancy that they will be short-lived. The lack of content indicates to me that the bread and butter of the game is hype, not substance. Perhaps they just managed to get investors behind them that demanded a fast dev cycle. Maybe they want a quick ROI. Whatever the reason, I think that solely based on what I've read about STO, they really botched this one.
Cheers,
insanex
It's one thing to purchase a game to give it the benefit of the doubt (i did), and it's another to buy-into a clearly poor product just for the sake of saving-face or because one's a horrible judge of character. Every game will have stragglers, like sto, that hang onto what they hope it will become or because those have little to no rationale expectation for something remotely good, but those same people have very little credibility when it comes to an opinion of what might be appealing.
I miss Tabula Rasa too. Few downed MMOs make me sadface, but the loss of that one did.
Cheers,
insanex
I bought it and played it. hit RA5 and cancelled during the free month. I knew what it was and that I'd likely be cancelling early on. There is good, enjoyable(IMO) content in it, just nowhere near enough, and very little to do once that content is done. The two year development cycle shows quite clearly, but I'm not sure that overall quality would have improved had they spent twice that time. Nowhere in the game do I see evidence that they "get" what makes a person stay with a game for months/years. They don't seem to "get" why people like a good crafting system, or exploring, or just sitting around a social area goofing off with friends.
The only gamer they seem to get is the "kill stuff to get stuff to kill more stuff to level to kill more powerful stuff". And that means, with a skill cap, those people leave once they've hit it, leaving no one else.