I am a true star wars fan. I like the prequals, I like the origionals, I like the clone wars cartoons, I like the lego universe games, I like the KTOR games, the old stand up arcade games, I like it all.
/beginfanboyrant
So this will probably not come as a shock... I love the TOR graphics. They are stylistic... a bit cartoony, and efficient. At the same time they are true to the look and feel of the star wars universe. Note that last phrase " the star wars UNIVERSE". Not 'the star wars origional trilogy' , but the whole genre .... the total of the mythos.
You cannot seperate the origional trilogy from the entire saga, they are one and the same.... George Lucas and his production company, their partners and subsidiaries are all equally established in the star wars universe. So cartoony has a place in the pantheon of SW creations e.g. Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Not to mention the host of predecessors in the video game world including but not limited to KTOR. If you like the origional trilogy the most then fine... wait for them to make Star Wars:OT the MMO or go play SWG. But it isnt fair to say if it doesnt look like (insert movie posters here) then it isn't Star Wars, unless you include all the posters/ adverts/ trailers/ book covers/ comic titles / blah blah blah blah.... because as much as you might disagree with it, or not like it ... its ALL Star Wars. Which in the end is ALL George Lucas. So who exactly are you to say this isnt Star Wars?
Nobody.
/endfanboyrant
On a less biased front... I'd say the graphics for TOR are very true indeed to the graphics of its parent product KTOR. They are in fact IMO the perfect evolution of said graphical style. Its KTOR all grown up and I for one commend Bioware for their efforts. I have always thought, second only to Blizzard, Bioware has one of the best graphic teams in the buisness... TOR has done nothing to diminish that opinion.
But an opinion it remains, and we are all intitled to such, so in the end... if you don't like it you don't like it. I respect that. But to say it isn't Star Wars ? Well thats just close minded.
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Very well said!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
To me graphics and ambient certainly don't look like a place "long time ago in a galaxy far far away..." but more like Alice in wonderland. But this alone does not bother me as much as the fact that smuggler has equal chance in winning the fight against Jedi. I made peace with BH, lowered my IQ to accept "Elite" Troopers but Smugglers are just too much. TOR just looks like Star Wars but that is all they have in common.
What exactly do you consider NOT to be bland and boring? Star Trek Online? Because I'll tell you now thats about as generic as you can get. WoW? Their graphics are old and boring, and look like they're straight out of an 80's anime.
This is all too true but it was his right to do so. The man is a hack. I'm not going to get too worked up about it,
You may think he butchered it but, who knows he could have been serious about what he did to Star Wars and actually like what he did. But I understand where you're comming from, I've had experiences like this with bands, Weezer anyone? First 2 albums great, after that I liked them less and less with each album they put out.
While the graphics are on the cartoony side, I think the game looks pretty good. Its just funny that OP wants it to look like the Original 3 movies but yet this game takes place way before them so obviously its going to look different.
Don't foget the koror games were based on the kotor comics not the films. So in that respect i think they worked, they did seem to be aimed at 13yr old console players anyway.
I'm guessing the swtor is being aimed at the wow crowd like every other big name mmorpg
You are not alone, a lot of people are miffed about the character models.
If that's the only problem this Game has it will be a HUGE success...
Would I like to see more realistic Character models? Sure...Am I willing to give that up for an awesome, stable Game that most Folks can Play on current PC's? Most definitely...
I think the Character Models are OK...Not great but OK...It's no where even remotely close to a deal breaker for me...Or for a few hundred thousand others I imagine...
Its my opinion that the title should be Bioware is butchering Star Wars, instead of butchered. Using the word butchered indicates that Bioware is finished with the development stage and has put the game out on store shelves. This is not the case. The game is still in development, so technically the game is still in the process of being butchered.
However, its my opinion that there is really no butchering going on here. I may be wrong, but we shall see. My 2 cents.
This is a matter of opinion. I think naturally Lucas and co. are looking at how to milk every last cent out of the Star Wars IP without alienating the fan base. If I was sitting on a multi million dollar cash cow, I'd do the same.
I think Lucasarts has done a good job, considering how some other IPs have fared. Hell, I'm even a fan of the Clone Wars TV show.
What exactly do you consider NOT to be bland and boring? Star Trek Online? Because I'll tell you now thats about as generic as you can get. WoW? Their graphics are old and boring, and look like they're straight out of an 80's anime.
To me these complaints stem more from the game not pushing someones $3000 dollar rig, than they do anything else. An image so vibrant says anything but bland and boring to me, I do have a trained eye though.
People place more worth in pixel count than they do art direction and style. That's ridiculous to me honestly. As pixel count is meaningless after a couple years, as it will expand. Art style is something that lasts much longer.
I know you're dissing on WOW above, but you have to acknowledge that while they may be growing stale at this point. WOW's graphics have pleased people for much longer than the graphics in say EQ2 or SWG ever did. As those two games incorporated realistic graphics and high poly counts. Which after you've seen better tend to look blurry, pixelated and just plain bad.
The only thing better than stylized graphics are stylized graphics at a high poly count (AOC). It does have lots of realism to it, yet it also has loads of style drawn into it. From the scenery to the character models as well as animations, the downfall is smaller play zones, issues with certain game functions (sieges) etc...
Bioware was intelligent in deciding to go the route they did.
If you want to push your system, go pick up a game meant to do that, as all you're getting in that case is graphics, gameplay isn't a concern to such developers. The rest of us will play games that are fun and interesting, with good production values throughout. Hey our PC's will love us to, as we don't have to push them to the limit.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Game looks great, and part of the greatness is the graphics. If you disagree then owell as you will be missing out on what is shaping up to be a very good looking star wars mmo. Lets just hope this time the game isn't so lagged out the only thing we can do for the first two weeks is be entertainers.
The more realistic the graphics are, the more quickly they become dated. This is something that many MMO developers are beginning to understand. If they want to continue to attract players years and years down the road, they have to design their graphics so that they are timeless. The graphical style in this game, while lacking in realism, will remain stylized forever...
When it really comes down to it though, why do graphics even matter to you? They have nothing to do with how the game plays. I would honestly play an MMO with stick figures if the gameplay was enthralling...
The more realistic the graphics are, the more quickly they become dated. This is something that many MMO developers are beginning to understand. If they want to continue to attract players years and years down the road, they have to design their graphics so that they are timeless. The graphical style in this game, while lacking in realism, will remain stylized forever...
When it really comes down to it though, why do graphics even matter to you? They have nothing to do with how the game plays. I would honestly play an MMO with stick figures if the gameplay was enthralling...
Precisely, 'realistic' graphics quickly become dated.
In any case, I'd rather hang a Picasso on my wall than a photograph. Realism I deal with every day on my way to, at and on my way back from work. In my free time I like to look at something stylized, something with a vision.
Personally I do not like the look of the game, but I think this bitching about 'cartoon graphics' needs to stop. Different styles are a matter of taste. Just because you don't like it, does not mean it is bad, mmkay?
Really... if a bioggest concern of vocal masses is that the graphics are "too cartoony for StarWars setting" then blow me down, this TOR will not only be best MMO evah but also next best thing since sliced bread in whole human civilisation progress...
Seriously. Its graphics. While playing you most likely wont even ntoice them that much unless you tend to playw ith your face stuck to screen. From the screens and vids the seem smooth and fluent enough to not have ot be realistic and still provide eyecandy.
MMOS are not singleplayer games where you can go crazy on straining the hardware just to provide more polycount on the face topology or add 1024x1024 texture maps for a single hand mesh. You make a balnce of looking decent vs performance with mutiply dynamic characters.
AoC took the realisitc loosk mode and it forced the game ot be heavily instance based because it coudlnt handle more people in single zone. Get real people.
Don't foget the koror games were based on the kotor comics not the films. So in that respect i think they worked, they did seem to be aimed at 13yr old console players anyway.
I'm guessing the swtor is being aimed at the wow crowd like every other big name mmorpg
Of course they are aiming for the WoW crowd., major game devs are all about making money these days. One funny thing I've noticed about some of the past few games that released. They say they were going to be big, they went for the masses but after people played it they were played by very few and became niche. The problem is nobody wants to play a game that is basically WoW with a different story and graphics. Why you ask? They have already put so much time into WoW why play a game that is almost the same thing but you have to start over.
Its about time devs stop shooting for the stars and plant their feet firmly on the ground. WoW is a freak of nature and to be honest IMO no other game not even Blizz's next MMO will even have those types of numbers. The devs need some sort of Field of Dreams type thing happening to them so they will build some unique games. If you build it they will play right? Look at EvE its done nothing but grow in size. Look at FFXI its been at 500k for years now, I'd call both of these games successful they sure as hell were considered before WoW happend. You just have to find your crowd and those 2 games did, WoW just so happend to target the biggest crowd and succedded.
What exactly do you consider NOT to be bland and boring? Star Trek Online? Because I'll tell you now thats about as generic as you can get. WoW? Their graphics are old and boring, and look like they're straight out of an 80's anime.
To me these complaints stem more from the game not pushing someones $3000 dollar rig, than they do anything else. An image so vibrant says anything but bland and boring to me, I do have a trained eye though.
Probably. Personally, I love beauty in graphics, and I find nothing wrong with the graphics in this game even though the humans could use a little work. I also understand that this game isn't even in beta yet and there's still plenty of time to update things like graphics.
People place more worth in pixel count than they do art direction and style. That's ridiculous to me honestly. As pixel count is meaningless after a couple years, as it will expand. Art style is something that lasts much longer.
I don't understand why people do that. The style is something I much more prefer than pixel count. I honestly don't care if the game challenges my maximum settings so long as I like what I'm seeing.
I know you're dissing on WOW above, but you have to acknowledge that while they may be growing stale at this point. WOW's graphics have pleased people for much longer than the graphics in say EQ2 or SWG ever did. As those two games incorporated realistic graphics and high poly counts. Which after you've seen better tend to look blurry, pixelated and just plain bad.
I LOATH WoW and I LOATH anime. Grates on my nerves like you wouldn't believe. And one of the things that drives me crazy is how much like anime WoW is. That and the level of maturity of many of the players of the game. I do acknowledge thats my own preference which is why I don't go sitting on WoW's boards just to bash it all the time like some other people do with this game and with EQ2.
As for EQ2, it really depends. I actually don't like either the soga models (too anime) or the old models for humans, barbarians, or gnomes. Weird lop sided lips and stuff. Though the rest of them are ok. The Kerra models are fantastic, as are the high elves.
The only thing better than stylized graphics are stylized graphics at a high poly count (AOC). It does have lots of realism to it, yet it also has loads of style drawn into it. From the scenery to the character models as well as animations, the downfall is smaller play zones, issues with certain game functions (sieges) etc...
Bioware was intelligent in deciding to go the route they did.
If you want to push your system, go pick up a game meant to do that, as all you're getting in that case is graphics, gameplay isn't a concern to such developers. The rest of us will play games that are fun and interesting, with good production values throughout. Hey our PC's will love us to, as we don't have to push them to the limit.
So long as I like the style, I'll be fine with the graphics. The scenery for this game is absolutely gorgeous. The models are ok. Nothing to freak out over either way. Its not the end of the world. I'll still play it. What really matters is the game play. But then, Bioware hasn't disappointed me yet, though I have to admit that I never finished NWN or Baldur's Gate. Mass Effect I and II, Dragon Age, and KoToR I and II will mean that I will give them a shot at it since I loved all of them. This may be the only game that will pull me away from EQ2 for good. But only if they do it right.
To me these complaints stem more from the game not pushing someones $3000 dollar rig, than they do anything else. An image so vibrant says anything but bland and boring to me, I do have a trained eye though.
Probably. Personally, I love beauty in graphics, and I find nothing wrong with the graphics in this game even though the humans could use a little work. I also understand that this game isn't even in beta yet and there's still plenty of time to update things like graphics.
People place more worth in pixel count than they do art direction and style. That's ridiculous to me honestly. As pixel count is meaningless after a couple years, as it will expand. Art style is something that lasts much longer.
I don't understand why people do that. The style is something I much more prefer than pixel count. I honestly don't care if the game challenges my maximum settings so long as I like what I'm seeing.
I know you're dissing on WOW above, but you have to acknowledge that while they may be growing stale at this point. WOW's graphics have pleased people for much longer than the graphics in say EQ2 or SWG ever did. As those two games incorporated realistic graphics and high poly counts. Which after you've seen better tend to look blurry, pixelated and just plain bad.
I LOATH WoW and I LOATH anime. Grates on my nerves like you wouldn't believe. And one of the things that drives me crazy is how much like anime WoW is. That and the level of maturity of many of the players of the game. I do acknowledge thats my own preference which is why I don't go sitting on WoW's boards just to bash it all the time like some other people do with this game and with EQ2.
As for EQ2, it really depends. I actually don't like either the soga models (too anime) or the old models for humans, barbarians, or gnomes. Weird lop sided lips and stuff. Though the rest of them are ok. The Kerra models are fantastic, as are the high elves.
The only thing better than stylized graphics are stylized graphics at a high poly count (AOC). It does have lots of realism to it, yet it also has loads of style drawn into it. From the scenery to the character models as well as animations, the downfall is smaller play zones, issues with certain game functions (sieges) etc...
Bioware was intelligent in deciding to go the route they did.
If you want to push your system, go pick up a game meant to do that, as all you're getting in that case is graphics, gameplay isn't a concern to such developers. The rest of us will play games that are fun and interesting, with good production values throughout. Hey our PC's will love us to, as we don't have to push them to the limit.
So long as I like the style, I'll be fine with the graphics. The scenery for this game is absolutely gorgeous. The models are ok. Nothing to freak out over either way. Its not the end of the world. I'll still play it. What really matters is the game play. But then, Bioware hasn't disappointed me yet, though I have to admit that I never finished NWN or Baldur's Gate. Mass Effect I and II, Dragon Age, and KoToR I and II will mean that I will give them a shot at it since I loved all of them. This may be the only game that will pull me away from EQ2 for good. But only if they do it right.
Just to clarify, I do think EQ2's graphics were well done. I just feel at this point they're losing what made them special to begin with. I always preferred the Troll model's, they still look awesome.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Star Wars fan base is much larger then Star Trek. Even if Old Republic has graphical issues or game play issues, it's still going to be a very big hit. The timing is right for a new Star Wars MMO. I do hope they tweak and improve some of these aspects, but we will have to see.
They took Star Wars, put cartoon graphics and then watered down the Star Wars look even more.
If it doesn't look like / resemble this, then it isn't Star Wars to me. ( And why would you want to change the Star Wars Image / Style anyway, it's the perfect look for it's setting regardless. ) Now that we're in a next-gen graphics era, for them to make it cartoony is a major let down.
I could understand if they made something similar to Super Star Wars for the Super Nintendo with next-gen graphics, but instead we get this cartoony, watered down garbage.
This is exactly yhe reason I won't play major ip MMOs anymore. LOTRO ruined it for me. Id much rather throw the DVD onto a bigscreen TV and watch the movies with surround sound then play some crappy MMO remake.
I hope TOR is good but personally I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole...
This is exactly yhe reason I won't play major ip MMOs anymore. LOTRO ruined it for me. Id much rather throw the DVD onto a bigscreen TV and watch the movies with surround sound then play some crappy MMO remake.
I hope TOR is good but personally I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole...
And the LOTRO movies are exactly why I stopped watching movies based on books.
At least in the case of TOR, it's an orginal environment within a pre-existing IP. There's nothing to leave out of it in that case.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
They took Star Wars, put cartoon graphics and then watered down the Star Wars look even more.
If it doesn't look like / resemble this, then it isn't Star Wars to me. ( And why would you want to change the Star Wars Image / Style anyway, it's the perfect look for it's setting regardless. ) Now that we're in a next-gen graphics era, for them to make it cartoony is a major let down.
I could understand if they made something similar to Super Star Wars for the Super Nintendo with next-gen graphics, but instead we get this cartoony, watered down garbage.
This is exactly yhe reason I won't play major ip MMOs anymore. LOTRO ruined it for me. Id much rather throw the DVD onto a bigscreen TV and watch the movies with surround sound then play some crappy MMO remake.
I hope TOR is good but personally I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole...
I LOATH WoW and I LOATH anime. Grates on my nerves like you wouldn't believe. And one of the things that drives me crazy is how much like anime WoW is. That and the level of maturity of many of the players of the game. I do acknowledge thats my own preference which is why I don't go sitting on WoW's boards just to bash it all the time like some other people do with this game and with EQ2.
Sorry had to cut out a bunch of stuff I just wanted to comment on the WoW anime part.. WoW doesn't look like anime in the least, yes its looks like a cartoon, but its not in the anime style. Mobinogi, Megaten online those have Anime style graphics.. Aion is more closer to Anime than WoW is and I still don't think its has truely anime graphics. IMO the only thing WoW and Anime have in common is huge Weapons and Armor and the fact that they are both Cartoons.
If you compare anime to american cartoons, anime is more realistic looking. Granted sometimes Animes have things that aren't realistic like the weapons and armor stated above,or the gargantuan eyes. But other than that the Characters and the background scenery in anime is 2nd to none when it comes to being Realistic in the animation department.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, and I do respect your opinion. I'm sure I haven't changed your mind in my statement, I just wanted to share a different point of view from someone who does like anime, but doesn't like WoW.
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So do i. I don't understand why not just live real life if you want realism. People play video games to get away from realities of life.
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Very well said!
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
To me graphics and ambient certainly don't look like a place "long time ago in a galaxy far far away..." but more like Alice in wonderland. But this alone does not bother me as much as the fact that smuggler has equal chance in winning the fight against Jedi. I made peace with BH, lowered my IQ to accept "Elite" Troopers but Smugglers are just too much. TOR just looks like Star Wars but that is all they have in common.
Do you people even read what you write before you post it?
Tell me how this is bland and boring please....
http://swtor.com/media/screens/voss
or this
http://swtor.com/media/screens/belsavis
or this
http://cdn-www.swtor.com/sites/all/files/en/planets/coruscant/concept03_800x450_holonet.jpg
What exactly do you consider NOT to be bland and boring? Star Trek Online? Because I'll tell you now thats about as generic as you can get. WoW? Their graphics are old and boring, and look like they're straight out of an 80's anime.
You may think he butchered it but, who knows he could have been serious about what he did to Star Wars and actually like what he did. But I understand where you're comming from, I've had experiences like this with bands, Weezer anyone? First 2 albums great, after that I liked them less and less with each album they put out.
While the graphics are on the cartoony side, I think the game looks pretty good. Its just funny that OP wants it to look like the Original 3 movies but yet this game takes place way before them so obviously its going to look different.
Don't foget the koror games were based on the kotor comics not the films. So in that respect i think they worked, they did seem to be aimed at 13yr old console players anyway.
I'm guessing the swtor is being aimed at the wow crowd like every other big name mmorpg
If that's the only problem this Game has it will be a HUGE success...
Would I like to see more realistic Character models? Sure...Am I willing to give that up for an awesome, stable Game that most Folks can Play on current PC's? Most definitely...
I think the Character Models are OK...Not great but OK...It's no where even remotely close to a deal breaker for me...Or for a few hundred thousand others I imagine...
Its my opinion that the title should be Bioware is butchering Star Wars, instead of butchered. Using the word butchered indicates that Bioware is finished with the development stage and has put the game out on store shelves. This is not the case. The game is still in development, so technically the game is still in the process of being butchered.
However, its my opinion that there is really no butchering going on here. I may be wrong, but we shall see. My 2 cents.
I quite liked the baldurs gate games
This is a matter of opinion. I think naturally Lucas and co. are looking at how to milk every last cent out of the Star Wars IP without alienating the fan base. If I was sitting on a multi million dollar cash cow, I'd do the same.
I think Lucasarts has done a good job, considering how some other IPs have fared. Hell, I'm even a fan of the Clone Wars TV show.
To me these complaints stem more from the game not pushing someones $3000 dollar rig, than they do anything else. An image so vibrant says anything but bland and boring to me, I do have a trained eye though.
People place more worth in pixel count than they do art direction and style. That's ridiculous to me honestly. As pixel count is meaningless after a couple years, as it will expand. Art style is something that lasts much longer.
I know you're dissing on WOW above, but you have to acknowledge that while they may be growing stale at this point. WOW's graphics have pleased people for much longer than the graphics in say EQ2 or SWG ever did. As those two games incorporated realistic graphics and high poly counts. Which after you've seen better tend to look blurry, pixelated and just plain bad.
The only thing better than stylized graphics are stylized graphics at a high poly count (AOC). It does have lots of realism to it, yet it also has loads of style drawn into it. From the scenery to the character models as well as animations, the downfall is smaller play zones, issues with certain game functions (sieges) etc...
Bioware was intelligent in deciding to go the route they did.
If you want to push your system, go pick up a game meant to do that, as all you're getting in that case is graphics, gameplay isn't a concern to such developers. The rest of us will play games that are fun and interesting, with good production values throughout. Hey our PC's will love us to, as we don't have to push them to the limit.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Game looks great, and part of the greatness is the graphics. If you disagree then owell as you will be missing out on what is shaping up to be a very good looking star wars mmo. Lets just hope this time the game isn't so lagged out the only thing we can do for the first two weeks is be entertainers.
The more realistic the graphics are, the more quickly they become dated. This is something that many MMO developers are beginning to understand. If they want to continue to attract players years and years down the road, they have to design their graphics so that they are timeless. The graphical style in this game, while lacking in realism, will remain stylized forever...
When it really comes down to it though, why do graphics even matter to you? They have nothing to do with how the game plays. I would honestly play an MMO with stick figures if the gameplay was enthralling...
Precisely, 'realistic' graphics quickly become dated.
In any case, I'd rather hang a Picasso on my wall than a photograph. Realism I deal with every day on my way to, at and on my way back from work. In my free time I like to look at something stylized, something with a vision.
Personally I do not like the look of the game, but I think this bitching about 'cartoon graphics' needs to stop. Different styles are a matter of taste. Just because you don't like it, does not mean it is bad, mmkay?
Really... if a bioggest concern of vocal masses is that the graphics are "too cartoony for StarWars setting" then blow me down, this TOR will not only be best MMO evah but also next best thing since sliced bread in whole human civilisation progress...
Seriously. Its graphics. While playing you most likely wont even ntoice them that much unless you tend to playw ith your face stuck to screen. From the screens and vids the seem smooth and fluent enough to not have ot be realistic and still provide eyecandy.
MMOS are not singleplayer games where you can go crazy on straining the hardware just to provide more polycount on the face topology or add 1024x1024 texture maps for a single hand mesh. You make a balnce of looking decent vs performance with mutiply dynamic characters.
AoC took the realisitc loosk mode and it forced the game ot be heavily instance based because it coudlnt handle more people in single zone. Get real people.
Of course they are aiming for the WoW crowd., major game devs are all about making money these days. One funny thing I've noticed about some of the past few games that released. They say they were going to be big, they went for the masses but after people played it they were played by very few and became niche. The problem is nobody wants to play a game that is basically WoW with a different story and graphics. Why you ask? They have already put so much time into WoW why play a game that is almost the same thing but you have to start over.
Its about time devs stop shooting for the stars and plant their feet firmly on the ground. WoW is a freak of nature and to be honest IMO no other game not even Blizz's next MMO will even have those types of numbers. The devs need some sort of Field of Dreams type thing happening to them so they will build some unique games. If you build it they will play right? Look at EvE its done nothing but grow in size. Look at FFXI its been at 500k for years now, I'd call both of these games successful they sure as hell were considered before WoW happend. You just have to find your crowd and those 2 games did, WoW just so happend to target the biggest crowd and succedded.
So long as I like the style, I'll be fine with the graphics. The scenery for this game is absolutely gorgeous. The models are ok. Nothing to freak out over either way. Its not the end of the world. I'll still play it. What really matters is the game play. But then, Bioware hasn't disappointed me yet, though I have to admit that I never finished NWN or Baldur's Gate. Mass Effect I and II, Dragon Age, and KoToR I and II will mean that I will give them a shot at it since I loved all of them. This may be the only game that will pull me away from EQ2 for good. But only if they do it right.
Just to clarify, I do think EQ2's graphics were well done. I just feel at this point they're losing what made them special to begin with. I always preferred the Troll model's, they still look awesome.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Star Wars fan base is much larger then Star Trek. Even if Old Republic has graphical issues or game play issues, it's still going to be a very big hit. The timing is right for a new Star Wars MMO. I do hope they tweak and improve some of these aspects, but we will have to see.
Momo sucks, I have proof.
This is exactly yhe reason I won't play major ip MMOs anymore. LOTRO ruined it for me. Id much rather throw the DVD onto a bigscreen TV and watch the movies with surround sound then play some crappy MMO remake.
I hope TOR is good but personally I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole...
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
And the LOTRO movies are exactly why I stopped watching movies based on books.
At least in the case of TOR, it's an orginal environment within a pre-existing IP. There's nothing to leave out of it in that case.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Then why are you here?
to the OP, your display picture is that of the WORST he-man known to human kind. I have no respect for you...
PS I get it your a fan of the original films, this just in, they already made a game for those films, jog off!
Sorry had to cut out a bunch of stuff I just wanted to comment on the WoW anime part.. WoW doesn't look like anime in the least, yes its looks like a cartoon, but its not in the anime style. Mobinogi, Megaten online those have Anime style graphics.. Aion is more closer to Anime than WoW is and I still don't think its has truely anime graphics. IMO the only thing WoW and Anime have in common is huge Weapons and Armor and the fact that they are both Cartoons.
If you compare anime to american cartoons, anime is more realistic looking. Granted sometimes Animes have things that aren't realistic like the weapons and armor stated above,or the gargantuan eyes. But other than that the Characters and the background scenery in anime is 2nd to none when it comes to being Realistic in the animation department.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, and I do respect your opinion. I'm sure I haven't changed your mind in my statement, I just wanted to share a different point of view from someone who does like anime, but doesn't like WoW.
Agreed. Hulking shoulders, insect-like waists, the mobs are not appealling to me. I also think they will not change before launch.