Well, you may blame bioware for 'ruining' the look of Star Wars, but you better complain to George Lucas to tell him you think he's wrong about how the universe he created should look - because, LucasArts stamped their approval on Bioware's art and said that yes, this looks like Star Wars.
I have issues with arguments like this, when we say a developer ruined an IP, we seem to forget that the holders of that IP approved the project. Star Trek's IP holder (paramount?), LucasArts, Tolkein's estate, Games Workshop, Robert E. Howard's estate - all these guys said the mmo's that carry their name were good enough to carry their name. And many gamers blame the developers.
I would disagree but then again, I am a real Star Wars fan.
I assume he is referring to the latest 3 movies, where I'd tend to agree with the sentiment, although I think it is impossible to for Lucas to have 'butchered' his own invention in this context, I would however say that there are plenty of 'real' star wars fans who saw those movies and said,
Op is a troll, the graphics from the vid's are incredible, he is vague, and holding this whole project to rediculous standards, i am sure he is trilled it got soo many pages
I assume he is referring to the latest 3 movies, where I'd tend to agree with the sentiment, although I think it is impossible to for Lucas to have 'butchered' his own invention in this context, I would however say that there are plenty of 'real' star wars fans who saw those movies and said,
"What the hell was that?"
Yeah, but I said that at the end of 'Jedi'
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I assume he is referring to the latest 3 movies, where I'd tend to agree with the sentiment, although I think it is impossible to for Lucas to have 'butchered' his own invention in this context, I would however say that there are plenty of 'real' star wars fans who saw those movies and said,
"What the hell was that?"
Yeah, but I said that at the end of 'Jedi'
LOL I pictured a silent cinema with the silence being broken by someone at the back, 'What just happened?'
I have to admit, the prequals weren't top notch. Though I really did enjoy, the Pod racing. It was nice to see more of the star wars universe that didn't involve war and starfighters. It was very entertaining. That and Obi Wan versus Darth Maul Choreography was very impressive. Best thing about episode one was Darth Maul, then every apprentice after wasn't nearly as cool.
I HATE how Yoda goes from puppet to CGI in the prequals. I wouldn't have minded if they had gone with CGI all the way, but it just looks weird. Attack of the Clones picked up from the factory onwards. It was incredible to see so many jedi fighting, as until then the most we had seen was three lightsaber weilding opponents against each other. It was just pure eye candy.
Episode three. Massive MASSIVE improvement. Anakin was acceptable, infact I thought he was quite good. Not all the time, but mostly. The two duels at the end were phenomenal, I doubt I'll see a better sword fight in a movie for a long time.
What is weird is how in the third movie, my favourite scene, bar Yoda and Sidious on the Chancellor podium ascending into the Senatetoral arena whilst dueling, was Mace Windu attempting to arrest the Chancellor. What the hell happened to the 'three glorified swordmasters'? Alot of fans know that Kit Fisto, Eeth Koth, and Yasee Tin were NOT pushovers. Three of the best jedi before the fall of the Empire, yet I read somewhere the justification of their quick demise. It was that sound Palpatine made as he corkscrewed his way towards them. 'Force Scream'. Kotor fans will be familiar with it. It disorientates opponents. That as it maybe, I could Imagine him getting one kill out of it, but two immediately, then a third straight after? I get the feeling George was just being lazy. I like to pretend there was a prolongued duel where the Emperor eventually tired down and Mace was able to outlast him.
Anyone else with thoughts on that particular scene?
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I for one was never impressed with Bioware games and with the recent offering of Lucasarts games that focus on nothing but Jedi when they have a full library of games to remake that didn't involve Jedi in it like X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter which still holds a spot in the top 100 of the best games ever made, good news on that is they are remaking X Vs T for Xbox 360 and possibility so maybe for once these past 10 yrs they do something right for the original trilogy fans, Bioware after playing Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR 1&2 didnt really give me much of a reason to play any more of their games after a couple of times thru, and I generally avoid any of their newer games if you can call them that I don't drop 60$ a pop for cutscenes and dialouge I drop that money for a game.
This is one of the obstacles that TOR is going to have to overcome , there are quite a number of people who will avoid TOR due to their story feature they want a game, and most of all they want to create their own story without having someone script it for them , why would anyone leave SWG for the elements they already have in place for another game that will probably have none of those features? Reading thru the TOR forums is laughable at best you have 2 camps there the SWG camp and the WOW camp both want their features from their prespective games in TOR the constant infighting between the community is almost toxic.
From the arguments about space content , crafting, why soloer's should get raid quality loot without doing raid content, its a ongoing battle over there and nothing but personal agenda's being pushed.
Return of the Jedi, Empire Strikes Back, A New Hope, that's Star Wars man, that's the magic and the energy of the heart, anything else is just cashing in.
I for one was never impressed with Bioware games and with the recent offering of Lucasarts games that focus on nothing but Jedi when they have a full library of games to remake that didn't involve Jedi in it like X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter which still holds a spot in the top 100 of the best games ever made, good news on that is they are remaking X Vs T for Xbox 360 and possibility so maybe for once these past 10 yrs they do something right for the original trilogy fans, Bioware after playing Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR 1&2 didnt really give me much of a reason to play any more of their games after a couple of times thru, and I generally avoid any of their newer games if you can call them that I don't drop 60$ a pop for cutscenes and dialouge I drop that money for a game.
This is one of the obstacles that TOR is going to have to overcome , there are quite a number of people who will avoid TOR due to their story feature they want a game, and most of all they want to create their own story without having someone script it for them , why would anyone leave SWG for the elements they already have in place for another game that will probably have none of those features? Reading thru the TOR forums is laughable at best you have 2 camps there the SWG camp and the WOW camp both want their features from their prespective games in TOR the constant infighting between the community is almost toxic.
From the arguments about space content , crafting, why soloer's should get raid quality loot without doing raid content, its a ongoing battle over there and nothing but personal agenda's being pushed.
To be fair, it looks like Bioware is ignoring all of it (and thank (your deity) for that).
I like the graphics of SWTOR better than those crappy old star wars movies. Those things were made so many years ago and look like garbage. I don’t know why you would want to have those effects in game. Like the death star blowing up, that explosion was so fake, it’s just funny.
You, sir or madam, are precisely the demographic that Lucas Arts has been aiming for all these years! You are The Chosen One of Future MMO gaming!
I like the graphics of SWTOR better than those crappy old star wars movies. Those things were made so many years ago and look like garbage. I don’t know why you would want to have those effects in game. Like the death star blowing up, that explosion was so fake, it’s just funny.
You do realize those movies set the stage for the special effects you see today don't you? If you're young I could understand, as the youth never quite understand the importance of what has come before. If you're not, you should be tarred and feathered =O.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
LOL I pictured a silent cinema with the silence being broken by someone at the back, 'What just happened?'
I have to admit, the prequals weren't top notch. Though I really did enjoy, the Pod racing.
I didn't care for it. It was hard for me to take the kid seriously. He wasn't physically big enough to control that machine.
The only part of TPM I really liked was the ground battle between the Gungans and the droids.
It was nice to see more of the star wars universe that didn't involve war and starfighters.
Wow. Why do you even watch the movies? Tell me it isn't for the love story.
It was very entertaining. That and Obi Wan versus Darth Maul Choreography was very impressive. Best thing about episode one was Darth Maul, then every apprentice after wasn't nearly as cool.
It was a big mistake to kill off the big villain in each of the prequels. I guess Lucas didn't want to overshadow Anakin's fall into darkness.
I HATE how Yoda goes from puppet to CGI in the prequals. I wouldn't have minded if they had gone with CGI all the way, but it just looks weird. Attack of the Clones picked up from the factory onwards. It was incredible to see so many jedi fighting, as until then the most we had seen was three lightsaber weilding opponents against each other. It was just pure eye candy.
I agree with this. The arena battle was the best part of the movie.
I usually don't buy the 'more is better' principle, but seeing the Jedi fight all those droids was damned cool.
One thing I would have liked was if we had gotten to know each of the individual Jedi who were shown killed in RotS. It was sad to see as it was, but would have been even more dramatic if we had known them.
Episode three. Massive MASSIVE improvement. Anakin was acceptable, infact I thought he was quite good. Not all the time, but mostly. The two duels at the end were phenomenal, I doubt I'll see a better sword fight in a movie for a long time.
It was impressive, but went on way too long. I do think RotS was the best of the prequels. I rate it higher than RotJ, frankly.
What is weird is how in the third movie, my favourite scene, bar Yoda and Sidious on the Chancellor podium ascending into the Senatetoral arena whilst dueling, was Mace Windu attempting to arrest the Chancellor. What the hell happened to the 'three glorified swordmasters'? Alot of fans know that Kit Fisto, Eeth Koth, and Yasee Tin were NOT pushovers. Three of the best jedi before the fall of the Empire, yet I read somewhere the justification of their quick demise. It was that sound Palpatine made as he corkscrewed his way towards them. 'Force Scream'.
If you have to read an explanation of it, then it's bad movie making.
Kotor fans will be familiar with it. It disorientates opponents. That as it maybe, I could Imagine him getting one kill out of it, but two immediately, then a third straight after? I get the feeling George was just being lazy. I like to pretend there was a prolongued duel where the Emperor eventually tired down and Mace was able to outlast him.
Anyone else with thoughts on that particular scene?
They missed a chance at a big 'cool' moment by not having Mace (in true Sam Jackson style) say "Now why did I bother to bring you M-Fers with me in the first place?"
If you're going to have Samuel L. Jackson in your movie - let him be Samuel L. Jackson. As it was, Mace could have been played by anyone.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Every MMORPG that had super realistic graphics has failed to be as highly successful as anticipated. The only ones that make it big are the ones that are compatible with the most systems. So in a senses; high graphics = crap in the MMORPG world.
I think if you polled this thread correctly and assed, If you would rather have a decent looking game with high preformance or an awesome looking game with alright preformance, everyone would go with the first choice. Even in games where the graphics are really nice people are forced to turn all the settings down when involved in raid like scenarios because the fps drop to almost 0 if they don't.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
LOL I pictured a silent cinema with the silence being broken by someone at the back, 'What just happened?'
I have to admit, the prequals weren't top notch. Though I really did enjoy, the Pod racing.
I didn't care for it. It was hard for me to take the kid seriously. He wasn't physically big enough to control that machine.
The only part of TPM I really liked was the ground battle between the Gungans and the droids.
It was nice to see more of the star wars universe that didn't involve war and starfighters.
Wow. Why do you even watch the movies? Tell me it isn't for the love story.
It was very entertaining. That and Obi Wan versus Darth Maul Choreography was very impressive. Best thing about episode one was Darth Maul, then every apprentice after wasn't nearly as cool.
It was a big mistake to kill off the big villain in each of the prequels. I guess Lucas didn't want to overshadow Anakin's fall into darkness.
I HATE how Yoda goes from puppet to CGI in the prequals. I wouldn't have minded if they had gone with CGI all the way, but it just looks weird. Attack of the Clones picked up from the factory onwards. It was incredible to see so many jedi fighting, as until then the most we had seen was three lightsaber weilding opponents against each other. It was just pure eye candy.
I agree with this. The arena battle was the best part of the movie.
I usually don't buy the 'more is better' principle, but seeing the Jedi fight all those droids was damned cool.
One thing I would have liked was if we had gotten to know each of the individual Jedi who were shown killed in RotS. It was sad to see as it was, but would have been even more dramatic if we had known them.
Episode three. Massive MASSIVE improvement. Anakin was acceptable, infact I thought he was quite good. Not all the time, but mostly. The two duels at the end were phenomenal, I doubt I'll see a better sword fight in a movie for a long time.
It was impressive, but went on way too long. I do think RotS was the best of the prequels. I rate it higher than RotJ, frankly.
What is weird is how in the third movie, my favourite scene, bar Yoda and Sidious on the Chancellor podium ascending into the Senatetoral arena whilst dueling, was Mace Windu attempting to arrest the Chancellor. What the hell happened to the 'three glorified swordmasters'? Alot of fans know that Kit Fisto, Eeth Koth, and Yasee Tin were NOT pushovers. Three of the best jedi before the fall of the Empire, yet I read somewhere the justification of their quick demise. It was that sound Palpatine made as he corkscrewed his way towards them. 'Force Scream'.
If you have to read an explanation of it, then it's bad movie making.
Kotor fans will be familiar with it. It disorientates opponents. That as it maybe, I could Imagine him getting one kill out of it, but two immediately, then a third straight after? I get the feeling George was just being lazy. I like to pretend there was a prolongued duel where the Emperor eventually tired down and Mace was able to outlast him.
Anyone else with thoughts on that particular scene?
They missed a chance at a big 'cool' moment by not having Mace (in true Sam Jackson style) say "Now why did I bother to bring you M-Fers with me in the first place?"
If you're going to have Samuel L. Jackson in your movie - let him be Samuel L. Jackson. As it was, Mace could have been played by anyone.
Lol good read. Did you also know that Samuel approached Mr Lucas and said something along the lines of 'Look, my character ain't gunna be killed off like some fool is he?' Also, on his lightsaber, theres the three letters BMF, put on by the prop team for him. Bad mother...well you get the rest.
That being said theres some great edited spoofs involving lines from his other films.
I think the least we could possibly get from Swtor is proof, that a three minute trailer was better than the phantom menace.
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It was a big mistake to kill off the big villain in each of the prequels. I guess Lucas didn't want to overshadow Anakin's fall into darkness.
QFT
Bad thing is, Anakin was just a whiny little bitch, the prequels shouldn't have been about him in the first place, they would have been better off showing Anakin as a backstory and focusing on the manipulations by Palpatine...
It also lacked an iconic villain:
Maul: Dead after 1 fight
Dooku: Little fight at end of second movie, dead extremely quickly in the last.
Palpatine: Best thing about last movie, but only focused on at the very last moment.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
It was a big mistake to kill off the big villain in each of the prequels. I guess Lucas didn't want to overshadow Anakin's fall into darkness.
QFT
Bad thing is, Anakin was just a whiny little bitch, the prequels shouldn't have been about him in the first place, they would have been better off showing Anakin as a backstory and focusing on the manipulations by Palpatine...
It also lacked an iconic villain:
Maul: Dead after 1 fight
Dooku: Little fight at end of second movie, dead extremely quickly in the last.
Palpatine: Best thing about last movie, but only focused on at the very last moment.
But..but...but....his kids wouldn't have enjoyed that!
I enjoyed the political aspects of the new movies, but that's about it. I can't believe this is the same man that wrote American Graffiti, let alone the original trilogy.
It was a big mistake to kill off the big villain in each of the prequels. I guess Lucas didn't want to overshadow Anakin's fall into darkness.
QFT
Bad thing is, Anakin was just a whiny little bitch, the prequels shouldn't have been about him in the first place, they would have been better off showing Anakin as a backstory and focusing on the manipulations by Palpatine...
It also lacked an iconic villain:
Maul: Dead after 1 fight
Dooku: Little fight at end of second movie, dead extremely quickly in the last.
Palpatine: Best thing about last movie, but only focused on at the very last moment.
Palpatine is used very much in the prequel as in the original movies, very much in the background until the end when he becomes the most dominant dark side character. Its a plot device and it does work, the problem with the prequel is it does try to tell the story of Anakin too much, but anything else would have been complicated, and run the risk that the world wide Star Wars movie going audience might not have gotten it.
It was a big mistake to kill off the big villain in each of the prequels. I guess Lucas didn't want to overshadow Anakin's fall into darkness.
QFT
Bad thing is, Anakin was just a whiny little bitch, the prequels shouldn't have been about him in the first place, they would have been better off showing Anakin as a backstory and focusing on the manipulations by Palpatine...
It also lacked an iconic villain:
Maul: Dead after 1 fight
Dooku: Little fight at end of second movie, dead extremely quickly in the last.
Palpatine: Best thing about last movie, but only focused on at the very last moment.
Palpatine is used very much in the prequel as in the original movies, very much in the background until the end when he becomes the most dominant dark side character. Its a plot device and it does work, the problem with the prequel is it does try to tell the story of Anakin too much, but anything else would have been complicated, and run the risk that the world wide Star Wars movie going audience might not have gotten it.
I think Hayden did an alright job in Episode III, but episode II ... damn.
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I assume he is referring to the latest 3 movies, where I'd tend to agree with the sentiment, although I think it is impossible to for Lucas to have 'butchered' his own invention in this context, I would however say that there are plenty of 'real' star wars fans who saw those movies and said,
LOL I pictured a silent cinema with the silence being broken by someone at the back, 'What just happened?'
I have to admit, the prequals weren't top notch. Though I really did enjoy, the Pod racing.
I didn't care for it. It was hard for me to take the kid seriously. He wasn't physically big enough to control that machine.
Size matters not. Judge me by my size do you? Have you learned nothing ? My power comes from the force, not this crude matter. For my ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is......the scene sucked because the future lord of darkness never should have been a well-adjusted happy kid who had waaaaaaaay to much dialogue for a kid that age to be believable.
Why was the kid in 6th sense a great actor? Because they hardly gave him any lines.
Its not cartoony thats for sure but i also does not have realistic graphics like AOC. Which in my opinion will never work with Star Wars universe. moreover if you played the original KOTOR you will realise that graphics style of TOR are very close to the single player rpg.
Are you kidding me? The graphics in TOR are the definition of cartoony! I did not even read the ten plus pages of this thread because I had to stop and comment on how absurd your post was. I have played KOTOR 1&2 and they attempted realistic graphics for the game not cartoony at all. TOR is taking a page out of the crappy cartoon show or whatever its called. The clone wars garbage. I lol'd so hard at this comment.
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I would disagree but then again, I am a real Star Wars fan.
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Well, you may blame bioware for 'ruining' the look of Star Wars, but you better complain to George Lucas to tell him you think he's wrong about how the universe he created should look - because, LucasArts stamped their approval on Bioware's art and said that yes, this looks like Star Wars.
I have issues with arguments like this, when we say a developer ruined an IP, we seem to forget that the holders of that IP approved the project. Star Trek's IP holder (paramount?), LucasArts, Tolkein's estate, Games Workshop, Robert E. Howard's estate - all these guys said the mmo's that carry their name were good enough to carry their name. And many gamers blame the developers.
I assume he is referring to the latest 3 movies, where I'd tend to agree with the sentiment, although I think it is impossible to for Lucas to have 'butchered' his own invention in this context, I would however say that there are plenty of 'real' star wars fans who saw those movies and said,
"What the hell was that?"
I'm sorry, you just noticed this...?
Op is a troll, the graphics from the vid's are incredible, he is vague, and holding this whole project to rediculous standards, i am sure he is trilled it got soo many pages
TOR seems to attract all sorts of negativism around forums, and flame wars bethween fanboys and trolls is an everday thing.
Despite community working hard to be labeled as the worst in MMO history which is annoying, I have to say this comment really cheered me up!
Who said TOR community lacked tolerance? :P
Yeah, but I said that at the end of 'Jedi'
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
LOL I pictured a silent cinema with the silence being broken by someone at the back, 'What just happened?'
I have to admit, the prequals weren't top notch. Though I really did enjoy, the Pod racing. It was nice to see more of the star wars universe that didn't involve war and starfighters. It was very entertaining. That and Obi Wan versus Darth Maul Choreography was very impressive. Best thing about episode one was Darth Maul, then every apprentice after wasn't nearly as cool.
I HATE how Yoda goes from puppet to CGI in the prequals. I wouldn't have minded if they had gone with CGI all the way, but it just looks weird. Attack of the Clones picked up from the factory onwards. It was incredible to see so many jedi fighting, as until then the most we had seen was three lightsaber weilding opponents against each other. It was just pure eye candy.
Episode three. Massive MASSIVE improvement. Anakin was acceptable, infact I thought he was quite good. Not all the time, but mostly. The two duels at the end were phenomenal, I doubt I'll see a better sword fight in a movie for a long time.
What is weird is how in the third movie, my favourite scene, bar Yoda and Sidious on the Chancellor podium ascending into the Senatetoral arena whilst dueling, was Mace Windu attempting to arrest the Chancellor. What the hell happened to the 'three glorified swordmasters'? Alot of fans know that Kit Fisto, Eeth Koth, and Yasee Tin were NOT pushovers. Three of the best jedi before the fall of the Empire, yet I read somewhere the justification of their quick demise. It was that sound Palpatine made as he corkscrewed his way towards them. 'Force Scream'. Kotor fans will be familiar with it. It disorientates opponents. That as it maybe, I could Imagine him getting one kill out of it, but two immediately, then a third straight after? I get the feeling George was just being lazy. I like to pretend there was a prolongued duel where the Emperor eventually tired down and Mace was able to outlast him.
Anyone else with thoughts on that particular scene?
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
Oh, I have to go out right now, but I will reply to your post later on. I have much to say.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Okay.
*Digs slit trench and straps on helmet. Waiting for the bombardment to begin.*
lol.
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I for one was never impressed with Bioware games and with the recent offering of Lucasarts games that focus on nothing but Jedi when they have a full library of games to remake that didn't involve Jedi in it like X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter which still holds a spot in the top 100 of the best games ever made, good news on that is they are remaking X Vs T for Xbox 360 and possibility so maybe for once these past 10 yrs they do something right for the original trilogy fans, Bioware after playing Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR 1&2 didnt really give me much of a reason to play any more of their games after a couple of times thru, and I generally avoid any of their newer games if you can call them that I don't drop 60$ a pop for cutscenes and dialouge I drop that money for a game.
This is one of the obstacles that TOR is going to have to overcome , there are quite a number of people who will avoid TOR due to their story feature they want a game, and most of all they want to create their own story without having someone script it for them , why would anyone leave SWG for the elements they already have in place for another game that will probably have none of those features? Reading thru the TOR forums is laughable at best you have 2 camps there the SWG camp and the WOW camp both want their features from their prespective games in TOR the constant infighting between the community is almost toxic.
From the arguments about space content , crafting, why soloer's should get raid quality loot without doing raid content, its a ongoing battle over there and nothing but personal agenda's being pushed.
Return of the Jedi, Empire Strikes Back, A New Hope, that's Star Wars man, that's the magic and the energy of the heart, anything else is just cashing in.
To be fair, it looks like Bioware is ignoring all of it (and thank (your deity) for that).
You, sir or madam, are precisely the demographic that Lucas Arts has been aiming for all these years! You are The Chosen One of Future MMO gaming!
You do realize those movies set the stage for the special effects you see today don't you? If you're young I could understand, as the youth never quite understand the importance of what has come before. If you're not, you should be tarred and feathered =O.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Every MMORPG that had super realistic graphics has failed to be as highly successful as anticipated. The only ones that make it big are the ones that are compatible with the most systems. So in a senses; high graphics = crap in the MMORPG world.
I think if you polled this thread correctly and assed, If you would rather have a decent looking game with high preformance or an awesome looking game with alright preformance, everyone would go with the first choice. Even in games where the graphics are really nice people are forced to turn all the settings down when involved in raid like scenarios because the fps drop to almost 0 if they don't.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
Lol good read. Did you also know that Samuel approached Mr Lucas and said something along the lines of 'Look, my character ain't gunna be killed off like some fool is he?' Also, on his lightsaber, theres the three letters BMF, put on by the prop team for him. Bad mother...well you get the rest.
That being said theres some great edited spoofs involving lines from his other films.
I think the least we could possibly get from Swtor is proof, that a three minute trailer was better than the phantom menace.
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
QFT
Bad thing is, Anakin was just a whiny little bitch, the prequels shouldn't have been about him in the first place, they would have been better off showing Anakin as a backstory and focusing on the manipulations by Palpatine...
It also lacked an iconic villain:
Maul: Dead after 1 fight
Dooku: Little fight at end of second movie, dead extremely quickly in the last.
Palpatine: Best thing about last movie, but only focused on at the very last moment.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
But..but...but....his kids wouldn't have enjoyed that!
I enjoyed the political aspects of the new movies, but that's about it. I can't believe this is the same man that wrote American Graffiti, let alone the original trilogy.
Palpatine is used very much in the prequel as in the original movies, very much in the background until the end when he becomes the most dominant dark side character. Its a plot device and it does work, the problem with the prequel is it does try to tell the story of Anakin too much, but anything else would have been complicated, and run the risk that the world wide Star Wars movie going audience might not have gotten it.
I think Hayden did an alright job in Episode III, but episode II ... damn.
Longing for Skyrim, The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3
LOL true 'nuff.
Size matters not. Judge me by my size do you? Have you learned nothing ? My power comes from the force, not this crude matter. For my ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is......the scene sucked because the future lord of darkness never should have been a well-adjusted happy kid who had waaaaaaaay to much dialogue for a kid that age to be believable.
Why was the kid in 6th sense a great actor? Because they hardly gave him any lines.
Are you kidding me? The graphics in TOR are the definition of cartoony! I did not even read the ten plus pages of this thread because I had to stop and comment on how absurd your post was. I have played KOTOR 1&2 and they attempted realistic graphics for the game not cartoony at all. TOR is taking a page out of the crappy cartoon show or whatever its called. The clone wars garbage. I lol'd so hard at this comment.