With no crowd control DF is not a competitive game anyway you look at it, with equal time played it will always be numbers > player skill
Back in the day DAOC was truly based on player skill with crowd control and timers etc - I would love to watch some of these 'Hardcore' DF players try and play in an 8 man on DAOC, they wouldnt last the opening 1 second
There's a reason cybersport games like Starcraft have gaming leagues with large value cash prizes awarded. They are purely dependant on player skill. Darkfall is not.
So, wall-of-force, come-hither, blinds, stormblast, fire-knock-up-spells, etc... those aren't crowd control?
Do you even play darkfall?
An-auto-target game taking more skill than a FPS MMO?
Auto-target game all you're doing is reacting to damage/buffs + pressing a key to switch to a new thing to attack, with your group members easily available for heals/cures/etc.
In darkfall you:
-aim
-have to visualize the battlefield, try to make sure you don't find yourself surrounded by 'reds' all of the sudden
-try to figure who's an enemy,
-try to figure who in your group needs heals and where they are
-try to use line of site as blocking
-coordinate crossheals/buffs
-call wall-of force to sync bolts/rays/debuffs
-call blinds to cool-off/heal-up
-call group/raid positioning to try and flank/get high grounds
-call out single targets to help focus damage and actually take people down
Were you high as shit when you posted? I am (medical marijana isn't illegal, mods). Try it.
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
a) not really amazing... they basically give out the cards to anyone with $50 nowadays
b) AV's catering to people who appreciate the skill aiming brings to a game, along with the adrenaline producing thrill of losing/looting pixels. It's really that hard to see that? No wonder this game wasn't for you.
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
a) not really amazing... they basically give out the cards to anyone with $50 nowadays
b) AV's catering to people who appreciate the skill aiming brings to a game, along with the adrenaline producing thrill of losing/looting pixels. It's really that hard to see that? No wonder this game wasn't for you.
c) why are you posting here?
b) I had one or twice adrenaline thrill in my playtime during DF .... its nothing compared to FPS moments where you know, if you lose then purely through your own failure and lack of skill. In DF numbers are the kings.
Dont try to convince me something else. You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS.
I admit since the patch they increased the importance of the personal skill, but its still ruled by stats etc. And yes they matter hit 3 x faster then / do more dmg etc. Hp was fixed. I dont know why they didnt do it to all stats.
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
a) not really amazing... they basically give out the cards to anyone with $50 nowadays
b) AV's catering to people who appreciate the skill aiming brings to a game, along with the adrenaline producing thrill of losing/looting pixels. It's really that hard to see that? No wonder this game wasn't for you.
c) why are you posting here?
b) I had one or twice adrenaline thrill in my playtime during DF .... its nothing compared to FPS moments where you know, if you lose then purely through your own failure and lack of skill. In DF numbers are the kings.
Dont try to convince me something else. You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS.
I admit since the patch they increased the importance of the personal skill, but its still ruled by stats etc. And yes they matter hit 3 x faster then / do more dmg etc. Hp was fixed. I dont know why they didnt do it to all stats.
I get no adrenaline rushes in FPS games where you risk nothing but a few seconds of downtime. It sounds like your only PVP in darkfall was in huge zerggy sieges. What did you do the rest of you time?
Anyway, "You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS."? No shit, since i never said that lol. I was saying that AV caters to people who enjoy a game that requires you to aim, because having to aim while maintaining combat awareness is a skill (which, as evidenced by last patch, a lot of people blow at)
If you think the outcome of any PVP is determined because someone has 40 more quick/str than someone else... that's just plain stupid. My roomate's char is sitting at only 360 HP, no mastery over 70, mid 60's str/vit, 80 int, 80 quick, and since last patch he's been able to consistenly beat end-game characters that used to steamroll him.
The game takes skill. If you don't have any, take the coward's way out and live in denial, telling yourself the opposite: "I only died because those people had higher stats, it had nothing to do with the poor gameplay choices I made"
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
I believe that law passed here in Michigan as well.
I used to smoke for yrs due to my Crohns Disease, and getting the munchies being the only way to keep my appetite up. I get 3 Vicodin ES 7.5/750s per day now, and probably could get the medical stuff as well, but never looked into it. Not looking to be blasted all the time, just cant deal with pain anymore(I had a section of gut cut out in 98, and can keep weight on now....altrhough I do get bad instances of gut pain that weed would help).
Weed does a body harm(lungs, memory, depression)....but I would rather see a world of stoners than a world of drunks. They sure wont kill ya on the road, as they are the ones driving 15 MPH to get to 7-11 to get something to eat.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
a) not really amazing... they basically give out the cards to anyone with $50 nowadays
b) AV's catering to people who appreciate the skill aiming brings to a game, along with the adrenaline producing thrill of losing/looting pixels. It's really that hard to see that? No wonder this game wasn't for you.
c) why are you posting here?
b) I had one or twice adrenaline thrill in my playtime during DF .... its nothing compared to FPS moments where you know, if you lose then purely through your own failure and lack of skill. In DF numbers are the kings.
Dont try to convince me something else. You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS.
I admit since the patch they increased the importance of the personal skill, but its still ruled by stats etc. And yes they matter hit 3 x faster then / do more dmg etc. Hp was fixed. I dont know why they didnt do it to all stats.
I get no adrenaline rushes in FPS games where you risk nothing but a few seconds of downtime. It sounds like your only PVP in darkfall was in huge zerggy sieges. What did you do the rest of you time?
Anyway, "You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS."? No shit, since i never said that lol. I was saying that AV caters to people who enjoy a game that requires you to aim, because having to aim while maintaining combat awareness is a skill (which, as evidenced by last patch, a lot of people blow at)
If you think the outcome of any PVP is determined because someone has 40 more quick/str than someone else... that's just plain stupid. My roomate's char is sitting at only 360 HP, no mastery over 70, mid 60's str/vit, 80 int, 80 quick, and since last patch he's been able to consistenly beat end-game characters that used to steamroll him.
The game takes skill. If you don't have any, take the coward's way out and live in denial, telling yourself the opposite: "I only died because those people had higher stats, it had nothing to do with the poor gameplay choices I made"
And another one. I admited it got better since the last patch, but the benefits are still there. Fact. God you dont have to rage / get personal every time if someone doesnt share your view. Btw through the statment you admit that you got a vet char and you dont differ from other vets which behave same like you raging / bitching / flamming only because somebody doesnt share your view. And so far the hardest DF defenders are / were die hard vets who got all high up.
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So, wall-of-force, come-hither, blinds, stormblast, fire-knock-up-spells, etc... those aren't crowd control?
Do you even play darkfall?
An-auto-target game taking more skill than a FPS MMO?
Auto-target game all you're doing is reacting to damage/buffs + pressing a key to switch to a new thing to attack, with your group members easily available for heals/cures/etc.
In darkfall you:
-aim
-have to visualize the battlefield, try to make sure you don't find yourself surrounded by 'reds' all of the sudden
-try to figure who's an enemy,
-try to figure who in your group needs heals and where they are
-try to use line of site as blocking
-coordinate crossheals/buffs
-call wall-of force to sync bolts/rays/debuffs
-call blinds to cool-off/heal-up
-call group/raid positioning to try and flank/get high grounds
-call out single targets to help focus damage and actually take people down
Were you high as shit when you posted? I am (medical marijana isn't illegal, mods). Try it.
It's amazing the sheer number of people who claim to use medical marijuana, isn't it.
As to the OP, you may not find the game hardcore enough now, but casuals wouldn't touch this game with a 100 foot pole, so I'm not sure who AV is caving to, moderate hardcores?
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
a) not really amazing... they basically give out the cards to anyone with $50 nowadays
b) AV's catering to people who appreciate the skill aiming brings to a game, along with the adrenaline producing thrill of losing/looting pixels. It's really that hard to see that? No wonder this game wasn't for you.
c) why are you posting here?
b) I had one or twice adrenaline thrill in my playtime during DF .... its nothing compared to FPS moments where you know, if you lose then purely through your own failure and lack of skill. In DF numbers are the kings.
Dont try to convince me something else. You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS.
I admit since the patch they increased the importance of the personal skill, but its still ruled by stats etc. And yes they matter hit 3 x faster then / do more dmg etc. Hp was fixed. I dont know why they didnt do it to all stats.
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I get no adrenaline rushes in FPS games where you risk nothing but a few seconds of downtime. It sounds like your only PVP in darkfall was in huge zerggy sieges. What did you do the rest of you time?
Anyway, "You arent the first and neither the last one who will claim to say DF requires skill compared to a FPS."? No shit, since i never said that lol. I was saying that AV caters to people who enjoy a game that requires you to aim, because having to aim while maintaining combat awareness is a skill (which, as evidenced by last patch, a lot of people blow at)
If you think the outcome of any PVP is determined because someone has 40 more quick/str than someone else... that's just plain stupid. My roomate's char is sitting at only 360 HP, no mastery over 70, mid 60's str/vit, 80 int, 80 quick, and since last patch he's been able to consistenly beat end-game characters that used to steamroll him.
The game takes skill. If you don't have any, take the coward's way out and live in denial, telling yourself the opposite: "I only died because those people had higher stats, it had nothing to do with the poor gameplay choices I made"
I believe that law passed here in Michigan as well.
I used to smoke for yrs due to my Crohns Disease, and getting the munchies being the only way to keep my appetite up. I get 3 Vicodin ES 7.5/750s per day now, and probably could get the medical stuff as well, but never looked into it. Not looking to be blasted all the time, just cant deal with pain anymore(I had a section of gut cut out in 98, and can keep weight on now....altrhough I do get bad instances of gut pain that weed would help).
Weed does a body harm(lungs, memory, depression)....but I would rather see a world of stoners than a world of drunks. They sure wont kill ya on the road, as they are the ones driving 15 MPH to get to 7-11 to get something to eat.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
And another one. I admited it got better since the last patch, but the benefits are still there. Fact. God you dont have to rage / get personal every time if someone doesnt share your view. Btw through the statment you admit that you got a vet char and you dont differ from other vets which behave same like you raging / bitching / flamming only because somebody doesnt share your view. And so far the hardest DF defenders are / were die hard vets who got all high up.
Not a suprise for me.
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