Are we talking about ganking as in I unmount,kill lowbie, then go about my business or walk around low level areas looking for lowbies or following/repeatedly killing lowbies?
The OP said nothing about getting off of mounts, being in low level areas, or even looking for low level players. It's interesting to see how many frame this in a WOW context (non-combat mounts and tired zones in this particular post).
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Why do you gank? Because it makes you feel superior, and lets you see your victims as inferior. It's a power rush, pure and simple. The remarks, or rather jeers, that accompany ganking make this abundantly clear.
People who gank low lvl players for no other reason are bullies. It's as simple as that. Just like any sort of bullies you need to stand up to them and beat them at their own game. There's all sorts of things that makes a person a bully, perhaps they are abused as children or they have a problems in real life that they just need an outlet. There are several ways to handle a bully. I will name a few of them. 1.) One is to ignore them, just like a little kid crying for attention, they want your attention. If you ignore them long enough then it kills the "fun" for them and not give them the satisfaction. Sooner or later they will go away. 2.) Beat them at their own game. Bullies just like any tyrants who enjoy tormenting those who are weak and/or helpless than they are. If you beat them at their own game (as in if you pk them a few times or get your high lvl friends to pk them a few times) they will taste their own medicine and will eventually go away or turn tail and run away like a dog 3.) Most bullies tend to taunt you after they do something. If you acknowledge their taunts, it empowers them and they will feel bolder and more superior. It is like a drug for them and most likely will continue to torment you in the future. Best way is to avoid them, if that is not enough or impractical (or if they chase you from channel to channel or server to server) then report them to the game's GM. Most decent game companies nowadays have a non-harassment clause in their Terms of Service (ToS) contract because cyberbullying is now an acknowledged medical and social problem. Most game companies will ban a known bully player if it is proven.
LOL. Nice try on calling yourself a PvPer. You're a ganker. We know why gankers gank. Gankers can't hack it with the big boys, so they go find people who can't give them a fight. Spin it all you want. Its just that simple. Gankers aren't PvPers.
Have you tried Aion? Thats gank haven. Got to level 30 and gave up, i couldnt be bothered to run all the way back to continue a quest. Just to find the person is hidden and annihilate me.
Challenge is the most important thing in being competitive. For a normal person, its no fun to kill everyone with 1 hit. There's no skill in it and a normal person shouldn't gain anything from it after the first 5-10 minutes. The people who do... are those that don't understand challenge & if you don't understand challenge then they will most likely suck at everything - because its challenging yourself which makes you better. Since they suck at everything, they become a loser.
So anyone that goes around ganking newbies or waiting until someone is on 10% health before starting their attack are just losers. They take pride in winning when they have over-whelming odds and often have a million excuses when they lose.
The main other type of person (also a loser) are the ones that do it to grief - that is to upset another person for the purpose of their own enjoyment. These people are losers because this sort of person has no friends in real life.
The only "decent" gankers are the ones that do it for the challenge - the ones that wait for you to be at or near full health and attack you 1v1. These do it to win, enjoy the fight and prove themselves. People will still hate these guys, but they will respect them.
It's all about revenge for me. I got ganked growing up, so it's only fair that I show you the same courtesy. Hopefully you will learn from this and grow up to gank others yourself one day. The cycle must continue.
The cycle doesnt continue though.
FFA PVP is a very small niche of the MMO marketplace in NA subs. The greatest success to date(EVE) not only has yet to top EQ1 in its heyday(450k subs), it also offers "safe zones" for folks to avoid PVP.
Darkfall is the epitome of what FFA PVP brings....lack of subs. Something MMO designers should of learned long ago with UO.
I do agree though that anyone foolish enough to buy/subscribe to a FFA game should STFU about being ganked. YOu knew the rules, and yet you bought the game anyways.
I agree with the contention one poster made about the OP being a douchebag. I say let him be one....I would never play a game that it would affect me in. I pay money to enjoy content, not be someone elses content....be it ganking or forced interaction with various PC vendors(ala SWG).
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
This is one PvPer's confession. If I happen to meet an attackable low level character in my travels, I'll kill it. I don't stalk low level characters and i don't rezz kill. I look forward to meeting them again when they are levelled up.
What you guys seem to have read:
I speak for all PvPers and I am attempting to justify all killing of low level characters.I go to low level areas to actively hunt low level players. I kill them, taunt them and harrass them. I do not want an even levelled fight at all.
I don't know how you guys made that leap, but it has reached the point of amusing.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Basically, attacking anyone who is noteably disadvantagds against the attacker, is ganking. Whether it be by level, gear, numbers, low health, already engaged in combat, etc.
Under a scenario where you derive actual benefit from killing other players, whether it be experience, gold, or any other loot of worth from the victim, then ganking is somewhat justifiable, if not still rather unsportsmanly.
Under a scenario where the attacker and the victim are evenly matched, but there are no rewards for the attacker, then it's not ganking, but an exercise in the challenge of it.
Under a scenario where the attack stands to gain nothing from killing the victim other than the 'pleasure' of doing so, and the victim has done nothing to provoke the attack, then it becomes borderline sociopathic behavior. If the attacker continues to hunt down and kill, or otherwise corpse camp the victim for no other reason than because "it's fun" to do, then it is sociopathic behavior.
Have you tried Aion? Thats gank haven. Got to level 30 and gave up, i couldnt be bothered to run all the way back to continue a quest. Just to find the person is hidden and annihilate me.
Imma sad panda.
That was my Aion experience as well which explains why I no longer have an Aion sub.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Under a scenario where the attack stands to gain nothing from killing the victim other than the 'pleasure' of doing so, and the victim has done nothing to provoke the attack, then it becomes borderline sociopathic behavior. If the attacker continues to hunt down and kill, or otherwise corpse camp the victim for no other reason than because "it's fun" to do, then it is sociopathic behavior.
I wouldn't go as far as to say sociopathic, but i would consider it deeply entrenched in the category of total douchebaggery.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Under a scenario where the attack stands to gain nothing from killing the victim other than the 'pleasure' of doing so, and the victim has done nothing to provoke the attack, then it becomes borderline sociopathic behavior. If the attacker continues to hunt down and kill, or otherwise corpse camp the victim for no other reason than because "it's fun" to do, then it is sociopathic behavior.
I wouldn't go as far as to say sociopathic, but i would consider it deeply entrenched in the category of total douchebaggery.
Doing it because you can is being a douchbag.
Doing it because you get pleasure from doing it, that's sociopathic.
I have only read this thread up to the 5th page or so and I just want to tell you about something that happened to me at the Military Base (Neocron).
I hadn't even reached a single star back then and met a 3-star player of an enemy faction (TT, pah!). 3 stars meaning that he was capped (reached max level at every attribute) while my max level at my highest attribute was maybe 50 out of 100.
He attacked me once leaving me with only a little over half of my health left. Then I jumped on my bike and tried to escape. It was so important for this person to kill a low level player who doesn't stand the slightest chance that he chased me through 6 sectors across the wastelands. So not only does this player attack and kill random low level players he happens to come across but he also actively pursues them.
Luckily I could shake him off eventually. I still don't understand how bored one must be to chase someone through half the wastelands only for the towering feeling of killing them with no more than 3 attacks. I'm happy he didn't manage to do it. But he probably let his frustration out on an even lower player later who just made his first step out of the base.
So why did he (try to) gank? I really think he was just bored.
I have only read this thread up to the 5th page or so and I just want to tell you about something that happened to me at the Military Base (Neocron).
I hadn't even reached a single star back then and met a 3-star player of an enemy faction (TT, pah!). 3 stars meaning that he was capped (reached max level at every attribute) while my max level at my highest attribute was maybe 50 out of 100.
He attacked me once leaving me with only a little over half of my health left. Then I jumped on my bike and tried to escape. It was so important for this person to kill a low level player who doesn't stand the slightest chance that he chased me through 6 sectors across the wastelands. So not only does this player attack and kill random low level players he happens to come across but he also actively pursues them.
Luckily I could shake him off eventually. I still don't understand how bored one must be to chase someone through half the wastelands only for the towering feeling of killing them with no more than 3 attacks. I'm happy he didn't manage to do it. But he probably let his frustration out on an even lower player later who just made his first step out of the base.
So why did he (try to) gank? I really think he was just bored.
Well because of that ganker now you have a story to share with us. If it wasn't for him you would have done some boring quests or w/e.
This is the exact person that keeps me away from PvP based or PvE games that force PvP encounters. I understand that people have the option to play those games, to those people that play and complain about being "ganked" you only have yourself to blame for believing you will be able to get by without an encounter. If you loath being bothered by these types of players do your self a favor and don't play it. The PvP industry will always bring a few bad apples in to the spot light and they crave the attention.
Its sort of strange, I'm a carebear at heart, never would think about ganking people, yet play in PVP games/servers almost all the time.
While I don't gank due to my own moral code, I recognize that many games permit this and that some players will partake of it when offered the opportunity. I don't play DF right now because I'm not willing to become bait ad infinitium until I finally get strong enough to defend myself.
But I don't begrudge others the right to do so, even if I don't agree with their philosphy.
In EVE its not so bad, mostly because there is no levels, and there are plenty of ways to escape death and destruction if you fly smart.
Still, when I'm in a small roaming gang I much prefer to run into enemies flying combat ships which makes the fights fair, versus coming across miners who don't stand a chance.
But even then, if the miners were smart, they'd be able to safe up so its still more an error on their part so I don't feel quite so bad about killing or ransoming them.'
People can bring their own moral code into MMORPG's if they like, which is what I do and how I treat others in game. Other's chose not to and decide to flatten the other guy. (If its red its dead).
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Ganking is part of pvp but with so many carebears out in these days they will pretty much call any and every death they recieve a gank. I mean even if it same level 1 vs 1 and similar gear they will still call it a gank because I got the jump on them, stun locked them, and the killed them before they could fight back. Duh what did these carebears expect? A fair duel. Unfreakin believeble and then they cry about it constantly. Carebears ruin so many pvp games.
I mean right now I am following Tera with its' targetless combat and promise of open world pvp servers could make it one of the best pvp games ever. The problem is the community is so feaking carebear they are crying for protection before the game is even released. Carebears are going to ruin another game.
Most people probably don't remember the old PVP muds like Devil's Silence, but I was a player there for a while. PVPing for me was often within a reasonable level range (no more than 5 levels difference, which was nil in terms of impact even with HP/MP accounted for), but never did I or anyone else consider it acceptable to attack lowbies (10 levels or lower to your level). They couldn't be a problem or a threat, unless a mass of them decided to gang up and even then they stood little chance to defeating anyone 10 levels above them, especially if they were a mage. Ganking isn't PVPing. Ganking is simply pkilling with ease in mind. It's for cowards and sad little n00bs that can't stand real challenges in their game. Think of gankers like those kids who bot through their PVE content, it's the same thing really; it's lazy playing either way you slice it.
It's all about revenge for me. I got ganked growing up, so it's only fair that I show you the same courtesy. Hopefully you will learn from this and grow up to gank others yourself one day. The cycle must continue.
The cycle doesnt continue though.
FFA PVP is a very small niche of the MMO marketplace in NA subs. The greatest success to date(EVE) not only has yet to top EQ1 in its heyday(450k subs), it also offers "safe zones" for folks to avoid PVP.
Darkfall is the epitome of what FFA PVP brings....lack of subs. Something MMO designers should of learned long ago with UO.
I do agree though that anyone foolish enough to buy/subscribe to a FFA game should STFU about being ganked. YOu knew the rules, and yet you bought the game anyways.
I agree with the contention one poster made about the OP being a douchebag. I say let him be one....I would never play a game that it would affect me in. I pay money to enjoy content, not be someone elses content....be it ganking or forced interaction with various PC vendors(ala SWG).
I don't play FFA pvp games. All the PvP games I was talking about are still around. The cycle contiues.
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OP stated he doesn't enjoy killing lowbies. This is total BS and he knows it as do all you guys who love to gank low levels. Yes, it's a pvp zone but no you don't need to kill someone who's not a threat. Why? Of course the op won't admit this as he's trying to come off as a nice guy. Another lie.
I played on a pvp realm in wow on the firetree realm. Many times I came upon low levels and not once did I kill them just because they were "in my line of sight." Real honor and not just BS talk is knowing when to not attack and knowing when to, and attacking a much lower level player then trying to copout with lame excuse is a talk of a coward. A real honest to goodness coward.
Usually, the same gankers are the ones who will NOT confront another player of his level when he's alone. And even less, attack more then one player at his level but they will attack a group of lowbies sinply cause they know its easy. You see this all the time. You see level 80's attacking places like the crossroads, low level zones and then in groups of all things or attacking certain areas in stormwind where the guards and players are much lower. But when confronted by players of their own levels they run like the cowards they are.
Now he comes here signing off as a "pvper". What a patheic joker. This is not a true pvper, a true pvper is not a coward, doesn't attack low level players just for the sake of it. He confronts his own levels, this is where the challenge lies not with players a fraction of his level. But they wouldn't know this.
The op's post is a cowards way out. You can fool some of the people some times but not all of them all the time. Don't forget, we too play the game and we too see what you do so don't try your bs on us, it won't work.
A good example happened just last night. I was on my horde Mage getting items from the bank when it said the UC was under attack. A short time later an alliance was attacking the npc's which were much lower then he was. I had just came from running a dungeon so I attacked him. Know what he did? He left. It seem like he ported out using a hearth stone since he wasn't a Mage which I found strange since he was in mid fight. The point is he ran when confronted by someone his level as they all usually do.
These are the big bad gankers in pvp. Just like the op and all who are like him.
LOL. Nice try on calling yourself a PvPer. You're a ganker. We know why gankers gank. Gankers can't hack it with the big boys, so they go find people who can't give them a fight. Spin it all you want. Its just that simple. Gankers aren't PvPers.
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The OP said nothing about getting off of mounts, being in low level areas, or even looking for low level players. It's interesting to see how many frame this in a WOW context (non-combat mounts and tired zones in this particular post).
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Why do you gank? Because it makes you feel superior, and lets you see your victims as inferior. It's a power rush, pure and simple. The remarks, or rather jeers, that accompany ganking make this abundantly clear.
People who gank low lvl players for no other reason are bullies. It's as simple as that. Just like any sort of bullies you need to stand up to them and beat them at their own game. There's all sorts of things that makes a person a bully, perhaps they are abused as children or they have a problems in real life that they just need an outlet. There are several ways to handle a bully. I will name a few of them. 1.) One is to ignore them, just like a little kid crying for attention, they want your attention. If you ignore them long enough then it kills the "fun" for them and not give them the satisfaction. Sooner or later they will go away. 2.) Beat them at their own game. Bullies just like any tyrants who enjoy tormenting those who are weak and/or helpless than they are. If you beat them at their own game (as in if you pk them a few times or get your high lvl friends to pk them a few times) they will taste their own medicine and will eventually go away or turn tail and run away like a dog 3.) Most bullies tend to taunt you after they do something. If you acknowledge their taunts, it empowers them and they will feel bolder and more superior. It is like a drug for them and most likely will continue to torment you in the future. Best way is to avoid them, if that is not enough or impractical (or if they chase you from channel to channel or server to server) then report them to the game's GM. Most decent game companies nowadays have a non-harassment clause in their Terms of Service (ToS) contract because cyberbullying is now an acknowledged medical and social problem. Most game companies will ban a known bully player if it is proven.
LOL. Nice try on calling yourself a PvPer. You're a ganker. We know why gankers gank. Gankers can't hack it with the big boys, so they go find people who can't give them a fight. Spin it all you want. Its just that simple. Gankers aren't PvPers.
Have you tried Aion? Thats gank haven. Got to level 30 and gave up, i couldnt be bothered to run all the way back to continue a quest. Just to find the person is hidden and annihilate me.
Imma sad panda.
Think the OP confused personal "confession" with "dull generic story."
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I consider gankers to be mostly losers.
Challenge is the most important thing in being competitive. For a normal person, its no fun to kill everyone with 1 hit. There's no skill in it and a normal person shouldn't gain anything from it after the first 5-10 minutes. The people who do... are those that don't understand challenge & if you don't understand challenge then they will most likely suck at everything - because its challenging yourself which makes you better. Since they suck at everything, they become a loser.
So anyone that goes around ganking newbies or waiting until someone is on 10% health before starting their attack are just losers. They take pride in winning when they have over-whelming odds and often have a million excuses when they lose.
The main other type of person (also a loser) are the ones that do it to grief - that is to upset another person for the purpose of their own enjoyment. These people are losers because this sort of person has no friends in real life.
The only "decent" gankers are the ones that do it for the challenge - the ones that wait for you to be at or near full health and attack you 1v1. These do it to win, enjoy the fight and prove themselves. People will still hate these guys, but they will respect them.
The cycle doesnt continue though.
FFA PVP is a very small niche of the MMO marketplace in NA subs. The greatest success to date(EVE) not only has yet to top EQ1 in its heyday(450k subs), it also offers "safe zones" for folks to avoid PVP.
Darkfall is the epitome of what FFA PVP brings....lack of subs. Something MMO designers should of learned long ago with UO.
I do agree though that anyone foolish enough to buy/subscribe to a FFA game should STFU about being ganked. YOu knew the rules, and yet you bought the game anyways.
I agree with the contention one poster made about the OP being a douchebag. I say let him be one....I would never play a game that it would affect me in. I pay money to enjoy content, not be someone elses content....be it ganking or forced interaction with various PC vendors(ala SWG).
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
What the OP wrote:
This is one PvPer's confession. If I happen to meet an attackable low level character in my travels, I'll kill it. I don't stalk low level characters and i don't rezz kill. I look forward to meeting them again when they are levelled up.
What you guys seem to have read:
I speak for all PvPers and I am attempting to justify all killing of low level characters.I go to low level areas to actively hunt low level players. I kill them, taunt them and harrass them. I do not want an even levelled fight at all.
I don't know how you guys made that leap, but it has reached the point of amusing.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Ganking is synonymous with "unfairly engaging".
Basically, attacking anyone who is noteably disadvantagds against the attacker, is ganking. Whether it be by level, gear, numbers, low health, already engaged in combat, etc.
Under a scenario where you derive actual benefit from killing other players, whether it be experience, gold, or any other loot of worth from the victim, then ganking is somewhat justifiable, if not still rather unsportsmanly.
Under a scenario where the attacker and the victim are evenly matched, but there are no rewards for the attacker, then it's not ganking, but an exercise in the challenge of it.
Under a scenario where the attack stands to gain nothing from killing the victim other than the 'pleasure' of doing so, and the victim has done nothing to provoke the attack, then it becomes borderline sociopathic behavior. If the attacker continues to hunt down and kill, or otherwise corpse camp the victim for no other reason than because "it's fun" to do, then it is sociopathic behavior.
That was my Aion experience as well which explains why I no longer have an Aion sub.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I wouldn't go as far as to say sociopathic, but i would consider it deeply entrenched in the category of total douchebaggery.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Doing it because you can is being a douchbag.
Doing it because you get pleasure from doing it, that's sociopathic.
so glad i didnt keep playing aion now that i read this
I have only read this thread up to the 5th page or so and I just want to tell you about something that happened to me at the Military Base (Neocron).
I hadn't even reached a single star back then and met a 3-star player of an enemy faction (TT, pah!). 3 stars meaning that he was capped (reached max level at every attribute) while my max level at my highest attribute was maybe 50 out of 100.
He attacked me once leaving me with only a little over half of my health left. Then I jumped on my bike and tried to escape. It was so important for this person to kill a low level player who doesn't stand the slightest chance that he chased me through 6 sectors across the wastelands. So not only does this player attack and kill random low level players he happens to come across but he also actively pursues them.
Luckily I could shake him off eventually. I still don't understand how bored one must be to chase someone through half the wastelands only for the towering feeling of killing them with no more than 3 attacks. I'm happy he didn't manage to do it. But he probably let his frustration out on an even lower player later who just made his first step out of the base.
So why did he (try to) gank? I really think he was just bored.
Well because of that ganker now you have a story to share with us. If it wasn't for him you would have done some boring quests or w/e.
This is the exact person that keeps me away from PvP based or PvE games that force PvP encounters. I understand that people have the option to play those games, to those people that play and complain about being "ganked" you only have yourself to blame for believing you will be able to get by without an encounter. If you loath being bothered by these types of players do your self a favor and don't play it. The PvP industry will always bring a few bad apples in to the spot light and they crave the attention.
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Its sort of strange, I'm a carebear at heart, never would think about ganking people, yet play in PVP games/servers almost all the time.
While I don't gank due to my own moral code, I recognize that many games permit this and that some players will partake of it when offered the opportunity. I don't play DF right now because I'm not willing to become bait ad infinitium until I finally get strong enough to defend myself.
But I don't begrudge others the right to do so, even if I don't agree with their philosphy.
In EVE its not so bad, mostly because there is no levels, and there are plenty of ways to escape death and destruction if you fly smart.
Still, when I'm in a small roaming gang I much prefer to run into enemies flying combat ships which makes the fights fair, versus coming across miners who don't stand a chance.
But even then, if the miners were smart, they'd be able to safe up so its still more an error on their part so I don't feel quite so bad about killing or ransoming them.'
People can bring their own moral code into MMORPG's if they like, which is what I do and how I treat others in game. Other's chose not to and decide to flatten the other guy. (If its red its dead).
To each his own.
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Ganking is part of pvp but with so many carebears out in these days they will pretty much call any and every death they recieve a gank. I mean even if it same level 1 vs 1 and similar gear they will still call it a gank because I got the jump on them, stun locked them, and the killed them before they could fight back. Duh what did these carebears expect? A fair duel. Unfreakin believeble and then they cry about it constantly. Carebears ruin so many pvp games.
I mean right now I am following Tera with its' targetless combat and promise of open world pvp servers could make it one of the best pvp games ever. The problem is the community is so feaking carebear they are crying for protection before the game is even released. Carebears are going to ruin another game.
I think I read that Tera was going to have both type servers PVP and PVE. WIth consensual PVP on the PVE servers.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Most people probably don't remember the old PVP muds like Devil's Silence, but I was a player there for a while. PVPing for me was often within a reasonable level range (no more than 5 levels difference, which was nil in terms of impact even with HP/MP accounted for), but never did I or anyone else consider it acceptable to attack lowbies (10 levels or lower to your level). They couldn't be a problem or a threat, unless a mass of them decided to gang up and even then they stood little chance to defeating anyone 10 levels above them, especially if they were a mage. Ganking isn't PVPing. Ganking is simply pkilling with ease in mind. It's for cowards and sad little n00bs that can't stand real challenges in their game. Think of gankers like those kids who bot through their PVE content, it's the same thing really; it's lazy playing either way you slice it.
I don't play FFA pvp games. All the PvP games I was talking about are still around. The cycle contiues.
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OP stated he doesn't enjoy killing lowbies. This is total BS and he knows it as do all you guys who love to gank low levels. Yes, it's a pvp zone but no you don't need to kill someone who's not a threat. Why? Of course the op won't admit this as he's trying to come off as a nice guy. Another lie.
I played on a pvp realm in wow on the firetree realm. Many times I came upon low levels and not once did I kill them just because they were "in my line of sight." Real honor and not just BS talk is knowing when to not attack and knowing when to, and attacking a much lower level player then trying to copout with lame excuse is a talk of a coward. A real honest to goodness coward.
Usually, the same gankers are the ones who will NOT confront another player of his level when he's alone. And even less, attack more then one player at his level but they will attack a group of lowbies sinply cause they know its easy. You see this all the time. You see level 80's attacking places like the crossroads, low level zones and then in groups of all things or attacking certain areas in stormwind where the guards and players are much lower. But when confronted by players of their own levels they run like the cowards they are.
Now he comes here signing off as a "pvper". What a patheic joker. This is not a true pvper, a true pvper is not a coward, doesn't attack low level players just for the sake of it. He confronts his own levels, this is where the challenge lies not with players a fraction of his level. But they wouldn't know this.
The op's post is a cowards way out. You can fool some of the people some times but not all of them all the time. Don't forget, we too play the game and we too see what you do so don't try your bs on us, it won't work.
A good example happened just last night. I was on my horde Mage getting items from the bank when it said the UC was under attack. A short time later an alliance was attacking the npc's which were much lower then he was. I had just came from running a dungeon so I attacked him. Know what he did? He left. It seem like he ported out using a hearth stone since he wasn't a Mage which I found strange since he was in mid fight. The point is he ran when confronted by someone his level as they all usually do.
These are the big bad gankers in pvp. Just like the op and all who are like him.
Exactly.
OP thinks we don't see his kind everyday.