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No microtransactions in Final Fantasy XIV

ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

 



There are plenty of contentious issues in the MMO field, but one of the biggest at the moment is microtransactions. Controversy over the C-Store, the $25 "sparkle pony" and subsequent imitators, and the general balance in the burgeoning free-to-play field have made the players of nearly every game form an opinion. But those who detest the practice can take heart -- according to Hiromichi Tanaka, Final Fantasy XIV will not be including any sort of in-game store. That's from a recent interview from JPgames.de, translated by the FFXIVCore fansite community.



According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money. He also confirmed that players will be allowed to pick their server at launch, unlike the server roulette present at Final Fantasy XI's launch. If the interview isn't enough to tide you over, the game's beta has been given a brief writeup from Famitsu (translated from the Japanese), and there's an excellent gallery of screenshots available here. There are just over two months until the launch of Final Fantasy XIV, and they look to be an exciting ride.

 

Link: http://www.massively.com/2010/07/13/no-microtransactions-in-final-fantasy-xiv-but-many-beta-screens/


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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     LOL character slots ? Yeah, those extra slots sure make me more powerful than anyone else! Woot!

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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     LOL character slots ? Yeah, those extra slots sure make me more powerful than anyone else! Woot!

    Character slots are only the beginning.  They've taken something that the majority of players would expect to be a standard feature and turned it into something that must be purchased.  What other "standard features" are they going to expect people to pay extra for in order to fully enjoy the game?

  • AconsarAconsar Member Posts: 262

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

    Not really.  Every "character" is essentially another account since the game is designed to be played any way you want without having to make a second character.  It was like this in FFXI, though the charge for extra character slots was only $1 per character added to your monthly fee.

     

    If this is a one time fee, that's even better in the long run than FFXI, but I took it as the same method as before and is added to your monthly charge.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759

    "According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money."

    Don't really see how that translates into "No microtransactions" infact, sounds like pretty much the opposite. More like "We might do it if we want to make more money later, we just wont put in stuff that gives big advantages". Doesn't sound any different than what other P2P+MT games have been doing.

  • AconsarAconsar Member Posts: 262

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     LOL character slots ? Yeah, those extra slots sure make me more powerful than anyone else! Woot!

    Character slots are only the beginning.  They've taken something that the majority of players would expect to be a standard feature and turned it into something that must be purchased.  What other "standard features" are they going to expect people to pay extra for in order to fully enjoy the game?

    Did you even play FFXI?   Obviously not with this comment.  Blatant ignorance; there won't be any magical sparkling ponies for sale in a cash shop.  Blizzard is --> way.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     LOL character slots ? Yeah, those extra slots sure make me more powerful than anyone else! Woot!

    Character slots are only the beginning.  They've taken something that the majority of players would expect to be a standard feature and turned it into something that must be purchased.  What other "standard features" are they going to expect people to pay extra for in order to fully enjoy the game?

     Iggnorance at it s best.

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    "According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money."

    Don't really see how that translates into "No microtransactions" infact, sounds like pretty much the opposite. More like "We might do it if we want to make more money later, we just wont put in stuff that gives big advantages". Doesn't sound any different than what other P2P+MT games have been doing.

     they wont do it drop it

  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    "According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money."

    Don't really see how that translates into "No microtransactions" infact, sounds like pretty much the opposite. More like "We might do it if we want to make more money later, we just wont put in stuff that gives big advantages". Doesn't sound any different than what other P2P+MT games have been doing.

     they wont do it drop it

    lol and we're just supposed to take your word for it?

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

  • dashivaathandashivaathan Member UncommonPosts: 23

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

    Sorry, not even close to the same thing.

    There is no advantage at all to renting a second slot.  Since a single character can do everything in the game the only possible reason for a second slot would be for roleplaying and we all know that's almost nonexistant in an mmo anyway.  Secondly, their monthly fee is less than the other top games anyway so even if you do get a second slot it would just feel like a normal sub to any other top mmo.  Lastly, they did the same with slots in FF XI  and the never added other micros so I don't see this leading to them.

    I approve of FFs structure on this.  I think alt-itus destroys community in these games.  I know I make character after character when I have unlimited slots and never really end up getting anywhere because I want to try everything.  In FF XIV I can try everything with a single character.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    "According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money."

    Don't really see how that translates into "No microtransactions" infact, sounds like pretty much the opposite. More like "We might do it if we want to make more money later, we just wont put in stuff that gives big advantages". Doesn't sound any different than what other P2P+MT games have been doing.

     they wont do it drop it

     gotta love it.... in light of their own people saying they will do if ther eis enough "demand", you can sit there and say they wont as if it is 100% fact? Did you even read the OP / quote i posted?

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     12.95 for 1 char and 1 retainer. 1 for any other retainer after that. 3 for any char after that. Thing is you only need 1 char, it plays anything else. If you get more then 1 retainer which I m sure alot will, say 3 it s 4 retainers and 1 char that can play every class in the game, for 15.95. Now tell me what WOW costs a month?

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    "According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money."

    Don't really see how that translates into "No microtransactions" infact, sounds like pretty much the opposite. More like "We might do it if we want to make more money later, we just wont put in stuff that gives big advantages". Doesn't sound any different than what other P2P+MT games have been doing.

     they wont do it drop it

     gotta love it.... in light of their own people saying they will do if ther eis enough "demand", you can sit there and say they wont as if it is 100% fact? Did you even read the OP / quote i posted?

     There wont be enough demand so drop it. peole that play this game at least most wont want it

  • AconsarAconsar Member Posts: 262

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon


    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    "According to Tanaka, Square-Enix isn't necessarily opposed to the idea if the demand is present, but absolutely does not want in-game power to correspond to real-world money."

    Don't really see how that translates into "No microtransactions" infact, sounds like pretty much the opposite. More like "We might do it if we want to make more money later, we just wont put in stuff that gives big advantages". Doesn't sound any different than what other P2P+MT games have been doing.

     they wont do it drop it

     gotta love it.... in light of their own people saying they will do if ther eis enough "demand", you can sit there and say they wont as if it is 100% fact? Did you even read the OP / quote i posted?

    There may be more of a market towards fluff items such as cosmetic stuff this time around given how shit the genre is right now with the greed, but there won't be anything added to give you a paid benefit; you can bank on that.  If there is, then the game will probably tank, simple reason not to add it.

  • EricDanieEricDanie Member UncommonPosts: 2,238

    The "we won't ever give power for money" is the default BS you see around from every company, even "F2P" ones say that. Yet they sell time-bending items later on which will allow you to advance faster, or sell you equipment that will make a low level character life a lot easier, or just go for the cosmetic items, which you may not care about, but for some it is an issue as you're already paying a monthly fee to play the game yet you won't be able to acquire these items or you'll progress slower than you could be progressing if you spent additional money. SE even said they don't have anything against it "if the demand is present".

    Anyway, there is no use trying to predict RMT, we have fun now and if it ever reaches the point our lines get crossed, we simply vote with our wallets, voice our opinion, and move on if there is no change.

  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by dashivaathan

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

    Sorry, not even close to the same thing.

    There is no advantage at all to renting a second slot.  Since a single character can do everything in the game the only possible reason for a second slot would be for roleplaying and we all know that's almost nonexistant in an mmo anyway.  Secondly, their monthly fee is less than the other top games anyway so even if you do get a second slot it would just feel like a normal sub to any other top mmo.  Lastly, they did the same with slots in FF XI  and the never added other micros so I don't see this leading to them.

    I approve of FFs structure on this.  I think alt-itus destroys community in these games.  I know I make character after character when I have unlimited slots and never really end up getting anywhere because I want to try everything.  In FF XIV I can try everything with a single character.

    Everything with a single character?  Everything?

    Hmmm... how many races can a single character be?  Ohh.. one.  So for every race I want to play, I have to pay them an extra 3 bucks a month.

    Or do races mean nothing?  That's even more sad.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

     Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the $ seperately.

    As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

     Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.

    As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.

     I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm.

    so what your saying is having a second account is microtransaction 2

    But you didnt play ffxi So you have no say in this what so ever

  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282


    Originally posted by Raxeon


    Originally posted by madeux


    Originally posted by Raxeon


    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

     Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.

    As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.

     I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm

    Well it wouldn't be a microtransaction. :)

    But, as it stands, it is most certainly a microtransaction.  Obviously it's one that you're ok with, and that's fine, but the denial is just hilarious.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

     Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.

    As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.

     I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm.

    so what your saying is having a second account is microtransaction 2

     no, having a 2nd account = having a 2nd subscription

    any extra costs for extra items/content/characters/etc cosmetic or otherwise = a microtransaction

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

     Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.

    As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.

     I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm

    Well it wouldn't be a microtransaction. :)

    But, as it stands, it is most certainly a microtransaction.  Obviously it's one that you're ok with, and that's fine, but the denial is just hilarious.

     o wow how is it a microtransaction holy crap. i rather pay 3 bucks extra month than buy a second account and have a 13 buck sub on that. whitch i wont because i wont use a second character maybe the FREE retainer thats it

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by kaiser3282

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by madeux

    Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots.  The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.

     they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it

    3 bucks and that's it... lol  sounds like a microtransaction. 

     its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee

     Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.

    As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.

     I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm.

    so what your saying is having a second account is microtransaction 2

     no, having a 2nd account = having a 2nd subscription

    any extra costs for extra items/content/characters/etc cosmetic or otherwise = a microtransaction

     Ok go buy a  second account then and dont use the extra character on the first account. What one would you rather do.

    No one in ffxi called there 1 dolla per extra  character  microtransaction SO why start now

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