Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots. The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.
they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it
3 bucks and that's it... lol sounds like a microtransaction.
its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee
Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.
As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.
I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm
Well it wouldn't be a microtransaction.
But, as it stands, it is most certainly a microtransaction. Obviously it's one that you're ok with, and that's fine, but the denial is just hilarious.
o wow how is it a microtransaction holy crap. i rather pay 3 bucks extra month than buy a second account and have a 13 buck sub on that. whitch i wont because i wont use a second character maybe the FREE retainer thats it
lol how is it NOT a microtransation? An extra fee for an extra options? That is exactly what a microtransaction is.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots. The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.
they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it
3 bucks and that's it... lol sounds like a microtransaction.
its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee
Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.
As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.
I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm
Well it wouldn't be a microtransaction.
But, as it stands, it is most certainly a microtransaction. Obviously it's one that you're ok with, and that's fine, but the denial is just hilarious.
o wow how is it a microtransaction holy crap. i rather pay 3 bucks extra month than buy a second account and have a 13 buck sub on that. whitch i wont because i wont use a second character maybe the FREE retainer thats it
Raxeon, youve got to relax. Nobody is saying that it would be better / make more sense to make you buy a 2nd account pay a 2nd sub instead. We are simply pointing at that having to pay an extra $3 in the first place is equivalent to a microtransaction, regardless of wether you have other options or not.
As i said in my last post, any extra costs/fees for extra stuff on your account = a microtransaction.
Think aout it like DDO which is F2P and doesnt require you to pay for your account anyway. You can buy extra character slots, but then again you could just go create a 2nd account instead right? Does that somehow make the buying extra character slots NOT a microtransaction? No.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots. The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.
they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it
3 bucks and that's it... lol sounds like a microtransaction.
its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee
Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.
As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.
I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm
Well it wouldn't be a microtransaction.
But, as it stands, it is most certainly a microtransaction. Obviously it's one that you're ok with, and that's fine, but the denial is just hilarious.
o wow how is it a microtransaction holy crap. i rather pay 3 bucks extra month than buy a second account and have a 13 buck sub on that. whitch i wont because i wont use a second character maybe the FREE retainer thats it
Raxeon, youve got to relax. Nobody is saying that it would be better / make more sense to make you buy a 2nd account pay a 2nd sub instead. We are simply pointing at that having to pay an extra $3 in the first place is equivalent to a microtransaction, regardless of wether you have other options or not.
As i said in my last post, any extra costs/fees for extra stuff on your account = a microtransaction.
Think aout it like DDO which is F2P and doesnt require you to pay for your account anyway. You can buy extra character slots, but then again you could just go create a 2nd account instead right? Does that somehow make the buying extra character slots NOT a microtransaction? No.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points
But it's still a microtransaction
why does it matter as long as they dont go farther than the character
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second character in the middle of battle?
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points
But it's still a microtransaction
why does it matter as long as they dont go farther than the character
Why does anyone care about anyone else's microtransaction?
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second cahracter in the middle of battle?
So not only do races mean nothing, but your stats are also meaningless?
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points
But it's still a microtransaction
why does it matter as long as they dont go farther than the character
Why does anyone care about anyone else's microtransaction?
i dont there the 1s bringing it up. trying to say Se is going to use it when there not because im 100% certain that there wotn be a demand for it
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second cahracter in the middle of battle?
So not only do races mean nothing, but your stats are also meaningless?
what ever its stupid to keep this up BYE argue with your self
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second character in the middle of battle?
A little gimp is too gimp for most people.
I'm saying that paying more than originally requested for a perk of any sort in a MMO is a microtransaction.
Plus you've confirmed that FFXIV's stat system is more about the illusion of choice than actually mattering. Which is sad really.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second cahracter in the middle of battle?
So not only do races mean nothing, but your stats are also meaningless?
Exactly.
So like most other asian MMOs this game has an illusion of choice and microtransactions. What was the point the original poster was trying to make?
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second character in the middle of battle?
A little gimp is too gimp for most people.
I'm saying that paying more than originally requested for a perk of any sort in a MMO is a microtransaction.
Plus you've confirmed that FFXIV's stat system is more about the illusion of choice than actually mattering. Which is sad really.
If stats and race really are about this illusion... what does that say about the rest of the game? I was looking forward to this one, but as more information comes out I'm feeling much better about my choice not to preorder before I have a chance to try it for myself.
I guess I'm an idiot if part of the reason I occasionally play alts is to try out a new race, and I could care less about racial abilities.
Either way, we can argue its usefulness until we fall over dead, but charging three dollars for an additional character slot is a microtransaction. Whether or not it's a gamebreaking one really isn't the point.
Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots. The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.
they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it
3 bucks and that's it... lol sounds like a microtransaction.
Dur dur, it's a service. Like faster shipping, unlimited cell phone plans and first class hookers.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second character in the middle of battle?
A little gimp is too gimp for most people.
I'm saying that paying more than originally requested for a perk of any sort in a MMO is a microtransaction.
Plus you've confirmed that FFXIV's stat system is more about the illusion of choice than actually mattering. Which is sad really.
If stats and race really are about this illusion... what does that say about the rest of the game? I was looking forward to this one, but as more information comes out I'm feeling much better about my choice not to preorder before I have a chance to try it for myself.
I'm going to have to play cuz my girlfriend doesn't mind about all of this. I'm hoping there's more to the game than mechanics. I mean the graphics are good, but if atmosphere and story can't carry any extra to make up for this crap.. I'll wait for something else.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
A lot of people that play the game, they have a favorite race so they dont really switch a whole heck of a lot. And the fact that you can do everything with one race versus having to switch to another race or same race to do a different job is crap. I prefer the Galka type characters, hate the Elven, Hume, Miqote, and Lalafels in FF. Since you do not get any kind of stat changes with the race and you can do everything you want with one why in the world would you want to use an alt?
Hated that I needed an alt in WoW to begin with, and if you look at my characters there it was mostly a Dranai that I played, did I play some other race, sure but most of my characters where Dranai if I could of switched to another job with same Dranai I would never leave WoW and I would have a single characters there would not be a need for alts at all.
But I guess I went past the whole OP topic on that one, it would technically be a microtransaction if you get another character slot lol. But who cares really, I think what they are talking about is the whole sparkle pony and stuff that is offered in a lot of the f2p realm then character slots. So if we get beyond the whole having to pay extra for the character then will they offer sex change, race change or what ever in the future and sparkle ponies like WoW did, for a long time WoW did not offer any of these things and all of a suden they did, made me get even more tired of the game.
Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots. The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.
they diffrent is they did it in ffxi except they didnt give a free retainer it was 1 dolla cause the extra characters whrere needed. in 14 1 might be needed but that 1 is free. and extra playable character is 3 bucks and thats it
3 bucks and that's it... lol sounds like a microtransaction.
its the same thing as ffxi and that wasnt micro transaction. its just a added fee to your sub microtransaction is 1 time fee
Actually many games use microtransactions for renting something over time, such as a monthly basis, very much like adding $3 onto your sub, only they do it for you instead of you having to go pay the #4 seperately.
As for some of the others posting.... i love your own made up definitions of microtransactions. since when does offering an ingame advantage = microtransaction? wether it offers an advantage or not.... such as having a 2nd character for the sake of RPing with no other added benefits... it is still an extra cost for something extra that is not part of the standard subscription. There are microtransactions in EVERY game with microtransactions that dont offer any real "advantage".... but theyre still called microtransactions.
I guess Se could just say 1 character per account and just tell us to go buy a second account if we want more than 1. thats sounds much better /facepalm
Well it wouldn't be a microtransaction.
But, as it stands, it is most certainly a microtransaction. Obviously it's one that you're ok with, and that's fine, but the denial is just hilarious.
o wow how is it a microtransaction holy crap. i rather pay 3 bucks extra month than buy a second account and have a 13 buck sub on that. whitch i wont because i wont use a second character maybe the FREE retainer thats it
And in most any other mmo, you have 8 or more slots free with your sub. I'd say 8+ for free trumps 1 for $3.
And the "You don't need more than one character" argument doesn't fly, so just stop. I don't "need" 7 other characters in any mmo but I like having them there mostly for storage. You know, the storage you're gonna pay $1 for after your 1 free "retainer". And how do you play another race if you're only limited to one character unless you pay extra? Oh, I know. We don't "need" to play another race in your opinion.
But you know what, you're right. They're not micro-transactions. They're macro-transactions, since you have to keep paying for them every month instead of the one time fee of a micro-transaction.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Too late.... they're already charing $3.00 for extra character slots. The game isn't even released yet, and the microtransactions have already begun.
Sorry, not even close to the same thing.
There is no advantage at all to renting a second slot. Since a single character can do everything in the game the only possible reason for a second slot would be for roleplaying and we all know that's almost nonexistant in an mmo anyway. Secondly, their monthly fee is less than the other top games anyway so even if you do get a second slot it would just feel like a normal sub to any other top mmo. Lastly, they did the same with slots in FF XI and the never added other micros so I don't see this leading to them.
I approve of FFs structure on this. I think alt-itus destroys community in these games. I know I make character after character when I have unlimited slots and never really end up getting anywhere because I want to try everything. In FF XIV I can try everything with a single character.
Everything with a single character? Everything?
Hmmm... how many races can a single character be? Ohh.. one. So for every race I want to play, I have to pay them an extra 3 bucks a month.
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lol how is it NOT a microtransation? An extra fee for an extra options? That is exactly what a microtransaction is.
Paying for an extra character slot is a microtransaction.
Plus it'll be a more sore spot in this game than XI because you WILL be assigning points into your stats. Which means unless you stay perfect even you'll gimp yourself in a role.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
you can redo your points. you only need 1 character. and probly 1 retainer. thats all i used the extra character in xi for is to hold stuff
Raxeon, youve got to relax. Nobody is saying that it would be better / make more sense to make you buy a 2nd account pay a 2nd sub instead. We are simply pointing at that having to pay an extra $3 in the first place is equivalent to a microtransaction, regardless of wether you have other options or not.
As i said in my last post, any extra costs/fees for extra stuff on your account = a microtransaction.
Think aout it like DDO which is F2P and doesnt require you to pay for your account anyway. You can buy extra character slots, but then again you could just go create a 2nd account instead right? Does that somehow make the buying extra character slots NOT a microtransaction? No.
But it's still a microtransaction
we dont have too because its not needed
While in the middle of combat? I can switch from an axe to a healer's staff and change my points accordingly?
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
why does it matter as long as they dont go farther than the character
lol you cant gimp your self that bad. can you just switch to yoru second character in the middle of battle?
Why does anyone care about anyone else's microtransaction?
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
So not only do races mean nothing, but your stats are also meaningless?
i dont there the 1s bringing it up. trying to say Se is going to use it when there not because im 100% certain that there wotn be a demand for it
what ever its stupid to keep this up BYE argue with your self
A little gimp is too gimp for most people.
I'm saying that paying more than originally requested for a perk of any sort in a MMO is a microtransaction.
Plus you've confirmed that FFXIV's stat system is more about the illusion of choice than actually mattering. Which is sad really.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Exactly.
So like most other asian MMOs this game has an illusion of choice and microtransactions. What was the point the original poster was trying to make?
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
If stats and race really are about this illusion... what does that say about the rest of the game? I was looking forward to this one, but as more information comes out I'm feeling much better about my choice not to preorder before I have a chance to try it for myself.
I guess I'm an idiot if part of the reason I occasionally play alts is to try out a new race, and I could care less about racial abilities.
Either way, we can argue its usefulness until we fall over dead, but charging three dollars for an additional character slot is a microtransaction. Whether or not it's a gamebreaking one really isn't the point.
Dur dur, it's a service. Like faster shipping, unlimited cell phone plans and first class hookers.
I'm going to have to play cuz my girlfriend doesn't mind about all of this. I'm hoping there's more to the game than mechanics. I mean the graphics are good, but if atmosphere and story can't carry any extra to make up for this crap.. I'll wait for something else.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Too much complaining over every aspect of a game.
Can a new mmo come out without being analyzed up the arse?
Seems like the "new" mmo community likes to b-itch more then to enjoy the game for what it is.
A lot of people that play the game, they have a favorite race so they dont really switch a whole heck of a lot. And the fact that you can do everything with one race versus having to switch to another race or same race to do a different job is crap. I prefer the Galka type characters, hate the Elven, Hume, Miqote, and Lalafels in FF. Since you do not get any kind of stat changes with the race and you can do everything you want with one why in the world would you want to use an alt?
Hated that I needed an alt in WoW to begin with, and if you look at my characters there it was mostly a Dranai that I played, did I play some other race, sure but most of my characters where Dranai if I could of switched to another job with same Dranai I would never leave WoW and I would have a single characters there would not be a need for alts at all.
But I guess I went past the whole OP topic on that one, it would technically be a microtransaction if you get another character slot lol. But who cares really, I think what they are talking about is the whole sparkle pony and stuff that is offered in a lot of the f2p realm then character slots. So if we get beyond the whole having to pay extra for the character then will they offer sex change, race change or what ever in the future and sparkle ponies like WoW did, for a long time WoW did not offer any of these things and all of a suden they did, made me get even more tired of the game.
Haha so true !!!
Sometimes I get the feeling that people discussing MMOs like this, really hate the genre :P
And in most any other mmo, you have 8 or more slots free with your sub. I'd say 8+ for free trumps 1 for $3.
And the "You don't need more than one character" argument doesn't fly, so just stop. I don't "need" 7 other characters in any mmo but I like having them there mostly for storage. You know, the storage you're gonna pay $1 for after your 1 free "retainer". And how do you play another race if you're only limited to one character unless you pay extra? Oh, I know. We don't "need" to play another race in your opinion.
But you know what, you're right. They're not micro-transactions. They're macro-transactions, since you have to keep paying for them every month instead of the one time fee of a micro-transaction.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Pointing out a contradiction in a post is hating the entire genre? You people are paper thin.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
I have an idea, don t play the game.