im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
I fail? Whos the one trolling, for the sake of trolling? Some people like more tacticle combat that ffxi/ffxiv offers, vs hotbar mashing. Go look at vindictus its got what your looking for. But when it gets repetitive and boring, like all other of the flashy mmo's, dont come crying back to the forums.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
also... there have been many FFs where you literally kill a god as the final boss of the game.... so why shouldnt i expect my character to be super powerful and do awesome stuff in the MMO version? this is a fantasy game with magic and airships and crazy stuff that doesnt exist in the real world.... why shouldnt i expect my character to be able to do more than *swing**guard**swing**guard*..... its dreadfully boring.
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
Fail troll is fail
Go back to wow,kid.
so you are telling me what games i have and have not played now? who is the troll here exactly?
hmmmm....
i find that those who use the "kid" insult are typically the immature children themselves.... kind of a funny dynamic.
Originally posted by hellsmasker seriously.. who cares about those lame actions anyways
I care. I can sit, swim and jump in the real world. If I am physically unable to do so in the imagined world, how can I lose myself in it, or take on the roll of a person. I might not do those actions very often, but to be able to sit in a chair and talk over a drink, or take a swim in a lake, those are important things to do. It is ridiculous to walk out to the edge of water and be halted. This is not to say I would never play a game like that. I quite enjoy Guild Wars. The game has to be good enough on other merits for me to be able to over look this, and/or in the case of Guild Wars, be totally devoid of the aspects of gaming (roleplaying) that make those abilities crucial.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you regularly take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
Ok.. i understand your criticism... There's nothing wrong with FFXIV's combat, you just dont' like the style. Other people love that style. The style you refer to is available in every single mmo on the market, why not let us have something we havn't had since FFXI?
You should be applauding that FFXIV is different. I think your resentment comes from the fact that the game isn't what you wanted it to be vs. what it is.
I go into a game seeing If I like it or not, not trying to change it into something else.
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you regularly take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
LOL!!!
Ok yeah that's right even tho i dont remember fighting 6 all the time but doesn't matter really since i of course was referring to FF11 since i dont see why i should compare an solo game with an MMO (again no sense there at all) in a solo game u have to create enough mobs for exactly 1 player not for a couple thousand like u do in an MMO.
Besides when u fought this 6 characters they were weaker mobs i dont recall 6 Behemoths an any point in the game or even 2 of the Big walker things.
ps. Actually i think there was 1 fight against 2 Big Walker thingys
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you regularly take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
Ok.. i understand your criticism... There's nothing wrong with FFXIV's combat, you just dont' like the style. Other people love that style. The style you refer to is available in every single mmo on the market, why not let us have something we havn't had since FFXI?
You should be applauding that FFXIV is different. I think your resentment comes from the fact that the game isn't what you wanted it to be vs. what it is.
I go into a game seeing If I like it or not, not trying to change it into something else.
except it ISNT available in every single MMO on the market..... infact, the "fight one mob at a time" style of MMO combat is the STANDARD for mmo combat right now, and is available in almost every currently popular MMO. WOW-one mob at a time (generally), WAR-one mob at a time, AION- one mob at a time, AOC- maybe 2-3 mobs at a time for most classes, LOTRO-one mob at a time, DAOC- one mob at a time.....
the ONLY MMOs that i can think of that have done large scale battles regularly for a solo player have been COH/COV and Champions online, both done by Cryptic studios (Who is a TEEEEERRIBAD dev btw... cannot stand them).
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
Fail troll is fail
Go back to wow,kid.
so you are telling me what games i have and have not played now? who is the troll here exactly?
hmmmm....
i find that those who use the "kid" insult are typically the immature children themselves.... kind of a funny dynamic.
Why you are ashamed of playing wow?
Why every troll in this forum says the he never played wow,but at the same time asks for a wow clone?
And yes,you are a troll,you are just bitching "omg lolz what a fail" in all the topics of this forum.
Go back to wow,kid,do some more raid grinding crap,and wait for the new expansion,you know you love it,you know you will buy it.
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you regularly take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
LOL!!!
Ok yeah that's right even tho i dont remember fighting 6 all the time but doesn't matter really since i of course was referring to FF11 since i dont see why i should compare an solo game with an MMO (again no sense there at all) in a solo game u have to create enough mobs for exactly 1 player not for a couple thousand like u do in an MMO.
Besides when u fought this 6 characters they were weaker mobs i dont recall 6 Behemoths an any point in the game or even 2 of the Big walker things.
ps. Actually i think there was 1 fight against 2 Big Walker thingys
that is not really an argument honestly.... the challenge comes from having multiple weaker mobs, rather than one very strong mob.
if you took a poll on whether people would rather fight 6+ mobs at one time or just a single mob at one time.... i would venture to guess that people would rather have the more chaotic, heroic sounding experience of fighting larger numbers of mobs than beating on a single mob for the same period of time.
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
Fail troll is fail
Go back to wow,kid.
so you are telling me what games i have and have not played now? who is the troll here exactly?
hmmmm....
i find that those who use the "kid" insult are typically the immature children themselves.... kind of a funny dynamic.
Why you are ashamed of playing wow?
Why every troll in this forum says the he never played wow,but at the same time asks for a wow clone?
And yes,you are a troll,you are just bitching "omg lolz what a fail" in all the topics of this forum.
Go back to wow,kid,do some more raid grinding crap,and wait for the new expansion,you know you love it,you know you will buy it.
hard for me to be ashamed of doing something ive never done.... but i suppose ill go back to the game that i havent played and probably never will, purely because it looked awful and i dont play games just because they are "popular"...... yeah, ill do that, ok.
only person trolling here is you, because apparently you think you know better than everyone else. sorry, but to use the old slogan from a very popular trivia game that is coming back soon (glee!), you dont know jack.....
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
also... there have been many FFs where you literally kill a god as the final boss of the game.... so why shouldnt i expect my character to be super powerful and do awesome stuff in the MMO version? this is a fantasy game with magic and airships and crazy stuff that doesnt exist in the real world.... why shouldnt i expect my character to be able to do more than *swing**guard**swing**guard*..... its dreadfully boring.
haha you have no idea what your talking about. but we knew that from your first post. Devs have already stated that there will be many vs many battles. Again you just saw a low level youtube battle.
You never killed a "god" or final boss alone in FF so you still have no idea what your talking about. ou never came here to really discuss anything though, just troll. Sorry its not wow, feel free to go somewhere else.
Oh btw since your late to the dance and know nothing about this game, ill help ya out, theres no pvp, no jumping and no swimming. oh and you only get 1 character per account extra's cost 3 dollers a month
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
You all seem to be forgetting that XIVs combat will be focused on "groups" of mobs. Looking at alpha and beta footage, which is essentially the "early material" in the game shouldn't be considered the norm of what you will see.. The combat you have witnessed is extremely early on as far as game progression goes. You haven't seen a single clip of combat utilizing skills from multiple disciplines (ie a Gladiator with some Pugilist skills) etc.. And best I can tell, we haven't seen anything close to what "group" play can attain, and yes I'm talking skillchains etc here.
"If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
also... there have been many FFs where you literally kill a god as the final boss of the game.... so why shouldnt i expect my character to be super powerful and do awesome stuff in the MMO version? this is a fantasy game with magic and airships and crazy stuff that doesnt exist in the real world.... why shouldnt i expect my character to be able to do more than *swing**guard**swing**guard*..... its dreadfully boring.
haha you have no idea what your talking about. but we knew that from your first post. Devs have already stated that there will be many vs many battles. Again you just saw a low level youtube battle.
You never killed a "god" or final boss alone in FF so you still have no idea what your talking about. ou never came here to really discuss anything though, just troll. Sorry its not wow, feel free to go somewhere else.
Oh btw since your late to the dance and know nothing about this game, ill help ya out, theres no pvp, no jumping and no swimming. oh and you only get 1 character per account extra's cost 3 dollers a month
Let the haters hate. For the rest of us, only 54 more days!!!!!
Nice Vid. Every1 else thanks for your input but its really been beaten to death now.
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Your right, so you can go back to wow now.
i never have, and never will play wow because the combat looks even more terrible than this games..... so nice try on your snarky comment... you fail at everything.
when i play an MMO.... i like the combat to feel epic and dynamic... fighting one enemy at a time that takes 5 people several minutes to kill each just looks AWFUL.
the only MMO that i have played that has managed to get combat right in terms of making your character feel like a true hero is COH/COV. fighting 6-8 enemies at a time and seeing them get flung around by powers was awesome..... too bad the game got repetitive and boring after about 3 months.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you regularly take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
LOL!!!
Ok yeah that's right even tho i dont remember fighting 6 all the time but doesn't matter really since i of course was referring to FF11 since i dont see why i should compare an solo game with an MMO (again no sense there at all) in a solo game u have to create enough mobs for exactly 1 player not for a couple thousand like u do in an MMO.
Besides when u fought this 6 characters they were weaker mobs i dont recall 6 Behemoths an any point in the game or even 2 of the Big walker things.
ps. Actually i think there was 1 fight against 2 Big Walker thingys
that is not really an argument honestly.... the challenge comes from having multiple weaker mobs, rather than one very strong mob.
if you took a poll on whether people would rather fight 6+ mobs at one time or just a single mob at one time.... i would venture to guess that people would rather have the more chaotic, heroic sounding experience of fighting larger numbers of mobs than beating on a single mob for the same period of time.
And that is in the end only a matter of personal taste i like an evenly matched mob who challenges me.
I never liked bullying a bunch of weaker mobs besides if that's what u want than lvl a couple lvls and after that only pick the lower lvl mobs and attack more than one at a time and u got exactly what u want.
Honestly picking on a bunch of weaker mobs just inst a challenge i enjoy (using a BLM as example now)
I cast an AOE sleep spell all r asleep and all i have to do is finishing one of at a time now with evenly matched mobs i might get resists which will get me in trouble and i have to react fast since every hit hurts.
Picking on a bunch of weaker mobs and win is an illusion of Power,
Fighting an evenly matched Foe and with is the honorable way of being a warrior
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
also... there have been many FFs where you literally kill a god as the final boss of the game.... so why shouldnt i expect my character to be super powerful and do awesome stuff in the MMO version? this is a fantasy game with magic and airships and crazy stuff that doesnt exist in the real world.... why shouldnt i expect my character to be able to do more than *swing**guard**swing**guard*..... its dreadfully boring.
haha you have no idea what your talking about. but we knew that from your first post. Devs have already stated that there will be many vs many battles. Again you just saw a low level youtube battle.
You never killed a "god" or final boss alone in FF so you still have no idea what your talking about. ou never came here to really discuss anything though, just troll. Sorry its not wow, feel free to go somewhere else.
Oh btw since your late to the dance and know nothing about this game, ill help ya out, theres no pvp, no jumping and no swimming. oh and you only get 1 character per account extra's cost 3 dollers a month
lol oh gawd.... here come the fanboys... run and hide those of you who honestly want to discuss the issues they see with the game. fanboys wont stand by negative comments!
btw.... the no pvp thing.... that is not actually true, so you might want to check your facts. there was PVP in FFXI... there will be PVP in FFXIV. plain and simple. it may not be popular.... but it will be implemented. soz to disappoint your clearly superior intellect.
Good lord is this thread still going? Surprising it may be, but yes just like WoW boards, the GW boards, and yes the FF boards people will come to the defense of the game they are backing / like. As much right as you have to debate the issue, they have the right to bring up their points to defend it. The essence of debate is both sides, not one. So yes they are going to make a stance on what issues they feel they can rebuke with what knowledge they have on the topic so please don't take it personal.
Good lord is this thread still going? Surprising it may be, but yes just like WoW boards, the GW boards, and yes the FF boards people will come to the defense of the game they are backing / like. As much right as you have to debate the issue, they have the right to bring up their points to defend it. The essence of debate is both sides, not one. So yes they are going to make a stance on what issues they feel they can rebuke with what knowledge they have on the topic so please don't take it personal.
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He has to take it personally, can't you see, he is preaching that his way is the right way. Apparantly he can't stand any form of confrontation w/o resorting to name calling though, typical.. That's why I have 0 tact and refuse to be anything that might be remotly considered kind to these kinds of people. They deserve the lashings they take, even if it costs me a warning or a temp ban.
"If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford
Good lord is this thread still going? Surprising it may be, but yes just like WoW boards, the GW boards, and yes the FF boards people will come to the defense of the game they are backing / like. As much right as you have to debate the issue, they have the right to bring up their points to defend it. The essence of debate is both sides, not one. So yes they are going to make a stance on what issues they feel they can rebuke with what knowledge they have on the topic so please don't take it personal.
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~V
He has to take it personally, can't you see, he is preaching that his way is the right way. Apparantly he can't stand any form of confrontation w/o resorting to name calling though, typical.. That's why I have 0 tact and refuse to be anything that might be remotly considered kind to these kinds of people. They deserve the lashings they take, even if it costs me a warning or a temp ban.
im the one acting that way? ROFL WUT? i was called a troll, a WOW player (which im not) and several other things first.... if anything, those that are "defending" their game are the ones acting childish and ridiculous.
Good lord is this thread still going? Surprising it may be, but yes just like WoW boards, the GW boards, and yes the FF boards people will come to the defense of the game they are backing / like. As much right as you have to debate the issue, they have the right to bring up their points to defend it. The essence of debate is both sides, not one. So yes they are going to make a stance on what issues they feel they can rebuke with what knowledge they have on the topic so please don't take it personal.
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if they were actually being constructive instead of name calling... i would agree....
instead, we are treated to "go back to wow" or "you are just a troll we dont want your negative comments here" posts... so childish.
lol oh gawd.... here come the fanboys... run and hide those of you who honestly want to discuss the issues they see with the game. fanboys wont stand by negative comments!
btw.... the no pvp thing.... that is not actually true, so you might want to check your facts. there was PVP in FFXI... there will be PVP in FFXIV. plain and simple. it may not be popular.... but it will be implemented. soz to disappoint your clearly superior intellect.
You never came here to discuss any issue, just bash on a feature in which you know everything about after a short youtube video.
uh its true theres no pvp in ffxiv, nor will it be there at launch, I never said it would never have PvP. I know they said there will be in the future, but the future is far off, and ffxi didnt get pvp until years after release.
I am glad you realize that I have the superior intellect here, so go on type some other bs so i can keep correcting you. Because I am really bored atm and still have about 40 min to kill.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
Good lord is this thread still going? Surprising it may be, but yes just like WoW boards, the GW boards, and yes the FF boards people will come to the defense of the game they are backing / like. As much right as you have to debate the issue, they have the right to bring up their points to defend it. The essence of debate is both sides, not one. So yes they are going to make a stance on what issues they feel they can rebuke with what knowledge they have on the topic so please don't take it personal.
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if they were actually being constructive instead of name calling... i would agree....
instead, we are treated to "go back to wow" or "you are just a troll we dont want your negative comments here" posts... so childish.
take a look at your constructive post: Dameaus
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Thats a troll post hence you get treated as such.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
FFXIV solo combat will be much simpler than a stand alone adventure game.
FFXIV group combat has potential to be more complex than any solo game can hope for. We'll see if they pull it off.
I don't see why these actions are needed. The game instead of focusing on useless actions such as these they focused on making the game unique and fun. I'm pretty sure you can't jump in dragon age, yet millions of people love that. I'm pretty sure never before have you been able to do any of these actions in Final Fantasy, so why now? To appeal to the masses instead of keeping the focus on making the game as fun as possible for the niche group that loves the franchise, which encompasses millions and millions of people. I'm just saying...
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I fail? Whos the one trolling, for the sake of trolling? Some people like more tacticle combat that ffxi/ffxiv offers, vs hotbar mashing. Go look at vindictus its got what your looking for. But when it gets repetitive and boring, like all other of the flashy mmo's, dont come crying back to the forums.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
Fail troll is fail
Go back to wow,kid.
How do u know that in the high lvls u wont have such ability's which makes u feel like a hero??
I for once do not know if or if not such ability's will be availability in higher lvls so i am not judging the battle because of that (Judging something i dont know doesn't seem to make any sense to me).
I am however almost certain that u never will be able to take on 8 mobs the same lvl range than u r and own them for that's just not how FF works after all u dont play a god or anything like it which could reasonably explain why u would be so super mega overpowered FF is more about u being a warrior fighting your way up and if u take on a mob in equal lvl that there is no reason to expect an easy fight with no stress at all.
For me it was always about seeing my character grow a mob which was tough solo was onlt decent a couple lvls later and easy a few more lvls u actually felt the differences.
Now in most games u fight a few mobs without real trouble at once sure its easier to kill them later on but easier than easy just doesn't cut it for me.
that isnt how FF works? FF13.... you take on 6+ mobs with a party of 3.... REGULARLY. this could have easily been recreated in an MMO but instead they went for the tired "fight one mob for 5 minutes" approach.
also... there have been many FFs where you literally kill a god as the final boss of the game.... so why shouldnt i expect my character to be super powerful and do awesome stuff in the MMO version? this is a fantasy game with magic and airships and crazy stuff that doesnt exist in the real world.... why shouldnt i expect my character to be able to do more than *swing**guard**swing**guard*..... its dreadfully boring.
so you are telling me what games i have and have not played now? who is the troll here exactly?
hmmmm....
i find that those who use the "kid" insult are typically the immature children themselves.... kind of a funny dynamic.
I care. I can sit, swim and jump in the real world. If I am physically unable to do so in the imagined world, how can I lose myself in it, or take on the roll of a person. I might not do those actions very often, but to be able to sit in a chair and talk over a drink, or take a swim in a lake, those are important things to do. It is ridiculous to walk out to the edge of water and be halted. This is not to say I would never play a game like that. I quite enjoy Guild Wars. The game has to be good enough on other merits for me to be able to over look this, and/or in the case of Guild Wars, be totally devoid of the aspects of gaming (roleplaying) that make those abilities crucial.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
Ok.. i understand your criticism... There's nothing wrong with FFXIV's combat, you just dont' like the style. Other people love that style. The style you refer to is available in every single mmo on the market, why not let us have something we havn't had since FFXI?
You should be applauding that FFXIV is different. I think your resentment comes from the fact that the game isn't what you wanted it to be vs. what it is.
I go into a game seeing If I like it or not, not trying to change it into something else.
LOL!!!
Ok yeah that's right even tho i dont remember fighting 6 all the time but doesn't matter really since i of course was referring to FF11 since i dont see why i should compare an solo game with an MMO (again no sense there at all) in a solo game u have to create enough mobs for exactly 1 player not for a couple thousand like u do in an MMO.
Besides when u fought this 6 characters they were weaker mobs i dont recall 6 Behemoths an any point in the game or even 2 of the Big walker things.
ps. Actually i think there was 1 fight against 2 Big Walker thingys
except it ISNT available in every single MMO on the market..... infact, the "fight one mob at a time" style of MMO combat is the STANDARD for mmo combat right now, and is available in almost every currently popular MMO. WOW-one mob at a time (generally), WAR-one mob at a time, AION- one mob at a time, AOC- maybe 2-3 mobs at a time for most classes, LOTRO-one mob at a time, DAOC- one mob at a time.....
the ONLY MMOs that i can think of that have done large scale battles regularly for a solo player have been COH/COV and Champions online, both done by Cryptic studios (Who is a TEEEEERRIBAD dev btw... cannot stand them).
Why you are ashamed of playing wow?
Why every troll in this forum says the he never played wow,but at the same time asks for a wow clone?
And yes,you are a troll,you are just bitching "omg lolz what a fail" in all the topics of this forum.
Go back to wow,kid,do some more raid grinding crap,and wait for the new expansion,you know you love it,you know you will buy it.
that is not really an argument honestly.... the challenge comes from having multiple weaker mobs, rather than one very strong mob.
if you took a poll on whether people would rather fight 6+ mobs at one time or just a single mob at one time.... i would venture to guess that people would rather have the more chaotic, heroic sounding experience of fighting larger numbers of mobs than beating on a single mob for the same period of time.
hard for me to be ashamed of doing something ive never done.... but i suppose ill go back to the game that i havent played and probably never will, purely because it looked awful and i dont play games just because they are "popular"...... yeah, ill do that, ok.
only person trolling here is you, because apparently you think you know better than everyone else. sorry, but to use the old slogan from a very popular trivia game that is coming back soon (glee!), you dont know jack.....
haha you have no idea what your talking about. but we knew that from your first post. Devs have already stated that there will be many vs many battles. Again you just saw a low level youtube battle.
You never killed a "god" or final boss alone in FF so you still have no idea what your talking about. ou never came here to really discuss anything though, just troll. Sorry its not wow, feel free to go somewhere else.
Oh btw since your late to the dance and know nothing about this game, ill help ya out, theres no pvp, no jumping and no swimming. oh and you only get 1 character per account extra's cost 3 dollers a month
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
You all seem to be forgetting that XIVs combat will be focused on "groups" of mobs. Looking at alpha and beta footage, which is essentially the "early material" in the game shouldn't be considered the norm of what you will see.. The combat you have witnessed is extremely early on as far as game progression goes. You haven't seen a single clip of combat utilizing skills from multiple disciplines (ie a Gladiator with some Pugilist skills) etc.. And best I can tell, we haven't seen anything close to what "group" play can attain, and yes I'm talking skillchains etc here.
"If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford
omg lolz,what a fail game!
And that is in the end only a matter of personal taste i like an evenly matched mob who challenges me.
I never liked bullying a bunch of weaker mobs besides if that's what u want than lvl a couple lvls and after that only pick the lower lvl mobs and attack more than one at a time and u got exactly what u want.
Honestly picking on a bunch of weaker mobs just inst a challenge i enjoy (using a BLM as example now)
I cast an AOE sleep spell all r asleep and all i have to do is finishing one of at a time now with evenly matched mobs i might get resists which will get me in trouble and i have to react fast since every hit hurts.
Picking on a bunch of weaker mobs and win is an illusion of Power,
Fighting an evenly matched Foe and with is the honorable way of being a warrior
that of course is only my personal opinion
lol oh gawd.... here come the fanboys... run and hide those of you who honestly want to discuss the issues they see with the game. fanboys wont stand by negative comments!
btw.... the no pvp thing.... that is not actually true, so you might want to check your facts. there was PVP in FFXI... there will be PVP in FFXIV. plain and simple. it may not be popular.... but it will be implemented. soz to disappoint your clearly superior intellect.
Good lord is this thread still going? Surprising it may be, but yes just like WoW boards, the GW boards, and yes the FF boards people will come to the defense of the game they are backing / like. As much right as you have to debate the issue, they have the right to bring up their points to defend it. The essence of debate is both sides, not one. So yes they are going to make a stance on what issues they feel they can rebuke with what knowledge they have on the topic so please don't take it personal.
END OF LINE_
~V
He has to take it personally, can't you see, he is preaching that his way is the right way. Apparantly he can't stand any form of confrontation w/o resorting to name calling though, typical.. That's why I have 0 tact and refuse to be anything that might be remotly considered kind to these kinds of people. They deserve the lashings they take, even if it costs me a warning or a temp ban.
"If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford
im the one acting that way? ROFL WUT? i was called a troll, a WOW player (which im not) and several other things first.... if anything, those that are "defending" their game are the ones acting childish and ridiculous.
if they were actually being constructive instead of name calling... i would agree....
instead, we are treated to "go back to wow" or "you are just a troll we dont want your negative comments here" posts... so childish.
You never came here to discuss any issue, just bash on a feature in which you know everything about after a short youtube video.
uh its true theres no pvp in ffxiv, nor will it be there at launch, I never said it would never have PvP. I know they said there will be in the future, but the future is far off, and ffxi didnt get pvp until years after release.
I am glad you realize that I have the superior intellect here, so go on type some other bs so i can keep correcting you. Because I am really bored atm and still have about 40 min to kill.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
take a look at your constructive post: Dameaus
im sorry but why does that video look even REMOTELY entertaining to anyone? the combat looks slow, boring, and generic...... the skills are laughably simple. *SWING**SWING**GUARD**SWING*...... this combat looks like it is straight out of an MMO made 10 years ago....
Thats a troll post hence you get treated as such.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
FFXIV solo combat will be much simpler than a stand alone adventure game.
FFXIV group combat has potential to be more complex than any solo game can hope for. We'll see if they pull it off.
I don't see why these actions are needed. The game instead of focusing on useless actions such as these they focused on making the game unique and fun. I'm pretty sure you can't jump in dragon age, yet millions of people love that. I'm pretty sure never before have you been able to do any of these actions in Final Fantasy, so why now? To appeal to the masses instead of keeping the focus on making the game as fun as possible for the niche group that loves the franchise, which encompasses millions and millions of people. I'm just saying...