You have then played a very early beta of this game.
minus the whole pausing of the game to pick moves...yes exactly like kotor :P
Well that's a step above what I'm expecting, so I'll be happy with that. I'm prone to expect the worst possible scenario. Therefor I'm rarely disappointed.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
Just look around the industry a bit and you won't need a reason why some feel that's where most games are headed. Whether they turn out to be or not really doesn't matter, in the last few years most games have turned out that way. Most companies follow trends it's as simple as that.
My expectations are basically the same, and they're not of a negative influence. I still think it will be something close to what he said, which isn't exactly a bad thing. It's just not for everyone.
SWTOR doesn't look to much like WoW, if he says he 'expects' it to be, he could explain a bit more.
Single-player oriented, if that's how you plan on playing it. I can't argue with that, they said the game would be soloable from start to finish, you'd miss group content, but level cap without help. This doesn't bother me either, actually neither does it being comparable to WoW.
What I'd like to know is, how?
But he can't talk because of the NDA and all, he just expects it to be like WoW, he doesn't know for sure.
You don't even need anyone to break the NDA to see how similar TOR is to WoW. There is a plethora of information available on this game, including gameplay videos. Not to mention the simple fact that BioWare developers have all but professed their devotion to WoW.
I can go into much more detail but unfortunately this site honors NDA agreements of other corporations so until you actually play the game, you'll be wondering whether I'm right or wrong.
I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
Just look around the industry a bit and you won't need a reason why some feel that's where most games are headed. Whether they turn out to be or not really doesn't matter, in the last few years most games have turned out that way. Most companies follow trends it's as simple as that.
My expectations are basically the same, and they're not of a negative influence. I still think it will be something close to what he said, which isn't exactly a bad thing. It's just not for everyone.
SWTOR doesn't look to much like WoW, if he says he 'expects' it to be, he could explain a bit more.
Single-player oriented, if that's how you plan on playing it. I can't argue with that, they said the game would be soloable from start to finish, you'd miss group content, but level cap without help. This doesn't bother me either, actually neither does it being comparable to WoW.
What I'd like to know is, how?
But he can't talk because of the NDA and all, he just expects it to be like WoW, he doesn't know for sure.
You don't even need anyone to break the NDA to see how similar TOR is to WoW. There is a plethora of information available on this game, including gameplay videos. Not to mention the simple fact that BioWare developers have all but professed their devotion to WoW.
I can go into much more detail but unfortunately this site honors NDA agreements of other corporations so until you actually play the game, you'll be wondering whether I'm right or wrong.
I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
You have then played a very early beta of this game.
minus the whole pausing of the game to pick moves...yes exactly like kotor :P
Well that's a step above what I'm expecting, so I'll be happy with that. I'm prone to expect the worst possible scenario. Therefor I'm rarely disappointed.
Probably the best stance you could have on any game.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Ahaha, I see now...you seen some random leaked screenshots and came to the idea you could fool people by saying you're in testing, that's not a bad idea. Nice try though, can't say you was close to success, but you tried.
Lets compile a list of known resemblences then? I'll start
Battlegrounds
Species assigned to certain professions
Raids
BoE and BoP items
wanna pick up here?
Okay, lets see, Battlegrounds: EQ 2
Raids: EQ1 and 2, Anarchy online
BoE and BoP items: yeah again EQ 1 and 2 as well as anarchy online
Yeah i can see how thats unique to WoW and not just general things to almost every MMO....
I have no grip with you but pretty much everything in WoW has indeed been done somewhere either near that time or before it. My point is that if it's an MMo it's gonna have these things it's part of it being an MMo, every department store has a mens and womens section, that doesn't make the store bland that just makes it a department store.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
You'll see when you play it.
Thought so.
It's the best I can do without breaking the NDA.
Haven't heard that one before.
Do you honestly think that I care whether you believe me or not? Like I said, you'll find out eventually either way. Good luck!
Of course you care what we think. You have over 2000 posts on this forum and went to all the trouble of stealing some spiffy signature from someone. We're the hot air in your balloon sonny.
And we don't believe you. Mainly because there's videos out there of TOR gameplay (leaked from manly men who aren't hiding under the NDA skirt) which clearly show TOR as an open world MMO. To top it off TOR has almost no loading screens.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Ahaha, I see now...you seen some random leaked screenshots and came to the idea you could fool people by saying you're in testing, that's not a bad idea. Nice try though, can't say you was close to success, but you tried.
If that makes you feel better, believe what you want. But I still played the game before you. lol
Not only that. I've also submitted my feedback to BioWare... Imagine the damage I could potentially cause?
Lets compile a list of known resemblences then? I'll start
Battlegrounds
Species assigned to certain professions
Raids
BoE and BoP items
wanna pick up here?
Okay, lets see, Battlegrounds: EQ 2
Raids: EQ1 and 2, Anarchy online
BoE and BoP items: yeah again EQ 1 and 2 as well as anarchy online
Yeah i can see how thats unique to WoW and not just general things to almost every MMO....
I have no grip with you but pretty much everything in WoW has indeed been done somewhere either near that time or before it. My point is that if it's an MMo it's gonna have these things it's part of it being an MMo, every department store has a mens and womens section, that doesn't make the store bland that just makes it a department store.
These are resemblences, not anything unique to WoW. Actually I'm glad you said something, but the term WoW clone will continue to be used, : /
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
Just look around the industry a bit and you won't need a reason why some feel that's where most games are headed. Whether they turn out to be or not really doesn't matter, in the last few years most games have turned out that way. Most companies follow trends it's as simple as that.
My expectations are basically the same, and they're not of a negative influence. I still think it will be something close to what he said, which isn't exactly a bad thing. It's just not for everyone.
SWTOR doesn't look to much like WoW, if he says he 'expects' it to be, he could explain a bit more.
Single-player oriented, if that's how you plan on playing it. I can't argue with that, they said the game would be soloable from start to finish, you'd miss group content, but level cap without help. This doesn't bother me either, actually neither does it being comparable to WoW.
What I'd like to know is, how?
But he can't talk because of the NDA and all, he just expects it to be like WoW, he doesn't know for sure.
You don't even need anyone to break the NDA to see how similar TOR is to WoW. There is a plethora of information available on this game, including gameplay videos. Not to mention the simple fact that BioWare developers have all but professed their devotion to WoW.
I can go into much more detail but unfortunately this site honors NDA agreements of other corporations so until you actually play the game, you'll be wondering whether I'm right or wrong.
I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Ha, if you had played the game, you wouldn't have even tested a quarter of the things you just mentioned. Thats called being "untruthful", which you are. Instances? Where? In the flashpoints? I don't even need to break NDA to tell you that the world is completely open, and the world is immense. I don't need to go into telling you that the flashpoints are seamless and you pass through them without a hint of lag. I don't need to tell you that each class has a specific drive that powers the way each skill works, or that there is no Auto Attack, and I don't need to tell you any of that because not only is that NOT breaching the NDA and is prevalent on the DEMOs, but its also very much so the truth. I also know by far that you've never played a RAID, you've never tried a battleground, and that you don't know thing 1 about to what extent the gear selection stage is at or how that effects end game content at all.
And I know all this for a fact. On a side note, whats your name on the SWTOR forums.
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
Just look around the industry a bit and you won't need a reason why some feel that's where most games are headed. Whether they turn out to be or not really doesn't matter, in the last few years most games have turned out that way. Most companies follow trends it's as simple as that.
My expectations are basically the same, and they're not of a negative influence. I still think it will be something close to what he said, which isn't exactly a bad thing. It's just not for everyone.
SWTOR doesn't look to much like WoW, if he says he 'expects' it to be, he could explain a bit more.
Single-player oriented, if that's how you plan on playing it. I can't argue with that, they said the game would be soloable from start to finish, you'd miss group content, but level cap without help. This doesn't bother me either, actually neither does it being comparable to WoW.
What I'd like to know is, how?
But he can't talk because of the NDA and all, he just expects it to be like WoW, he doesn't know for sure.
You don't even need anyone to break the NDA to see how similar TOR is to WoW. There is a plethora of information available on this game, including gameplay videos. Not to mention the simple fact that BioWare developers have all but professed their devotion to WoW.
I can go into much more detail but unfortunately this site honors NDA agreements of other corporations so until you actually play the game, you'll be wondering whether I'm right or wrong.
I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Well, I prefer TOR style combat over gw2, from what I seen in todays live stream of the charr. Just looked to me like a big player with flashy animations going in and taking out multiple enemies with ease. NPCs all looked pretty stupid, as in they just stand around and pretty much do as expected and set themselves up to be killed... At least in TOR the npc have sense enough to take cover.
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
You'll see when you play it.
Thought so.
It's the best I can do without breaking the NDA.
Haven't heard that one before.
Do you honestly think that I care whether you believe me or not? Like I said, you'll find out eventually either way.
Good luck!
Of course you care what we think. You have over 2000 posts on this forum and went to all the trouble of stealing some spiffy signature from someone. We're the hot air in your balloon sonny.
And we don't believe you. Mainly because there's videos out there of TOR gameplay (leaked from manly men who aren't hiding under the NDA skirt) which clearly show TOR as an open world MMO. To top it off TOR has almost no loading screens.
Over 2000 posts over 6 years since I've been a member.
Yeah, i know it will, thats what i don't like, an MMO is no longer just an MMO now it's either a WoW clone, or it's not. We can't see past this title and we really need to. We need to see beyond the structure of the game and see if the game itself is any good.
I'm still holding out to see what this game is like, i'm very interested at the moment.
To Heartless: i doubt that cause the game is under NDA, if what you say is true your violating a contract you signed with Bioware, or your friend is, i'm lost cause it seems to be going both ways. Either way until a product is released information that is not public knowledge that is released before a games release date is a breach of that contract. I should know having to signed that contract every time i return to work after a month or two.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Ha, if you had played the game, you wouldn't have even tested a quarter of the things you just mentioned. Thats called being full of it, which you are. Instances? Where? In the flashpoints? I don't even need to break NDA to tell you that the world is completely open, and the world is immense. I don't need to go into telling you that the flashpoints are seamless and you pass through them without a hint of lag. I don't need to tell you that each class has a specific drive that powers the way each skill works, or that there is no Auto Attack, and I don't need to tell you any of that because not only is that NOT breaching the NDA and is prevalent on the DEMOs, but its also very much so the truth. I also know by far that you've never played a RAID, you've never tried a battleground, and that you don't know thing 1 about to what extent the gear selection stage is at or how that effects end game content at all.
And I know all this for a fact. On a side note, whats your name on the SWTOR forums.
The skill levels he talked about were priceless. That was leaked some time ago, a series of pictures showing all kinds of skills including the levels of the skills you can purchase. Out of everything he mentioned this was the only thing he could have possibly tested, and it was leaked, the rest was just ranting on his part.
Also be sure to check the join date on his name, if he doesn't hand you random forum user claiming it as himself.
I only play bioware for the story. I hate all bioware games base on gamplay.
With that being said, Bioware deserve to make RPG games with great story only(Cant wait for Dragon Age 2).MMorpg, so many aspect will be missed.
The story is there, voice are there, but during story and voice, are you still in the players world or you are in your own corner with a Bot companion that i heard about or simply with few players while excluding the whole player base?
Age of conan, lvl 1 to 20 with voice and animated story made for one player was great, but once you leave tortage, all this is over. You start playing with the AOC community no matter what you do.
Fact is, you read faster then you hear them speak. Its an mmorpg, they have to keep it massive between the player and the whole community.
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
Just look around the industry a bit and you won't need a reason why some feel that's where most games are headed. Whether they turn out to be or not really doesn't matter, in the last few years most games have turned out that way. Most companies follow trends it's as simple as that.
My expectations are basically the same, and they're not of a negative influence. I still think it will be something close to what he said, which isn't exactly a bad thing. It's just not for everyone.
SWTOR doesn't look to much like WoW, if he says he 'expects' it to be, he could explain a bit more.
Single-player oriented, if that's how you plan on playing it. I can't argue with that, they said the game would be soloable from start to finish, you'd miss group content, but level cap without help. This doesn't bother me either, actually neither does it being comparable to WoW.
What I'd like to know is, how?
But he can't talk because of the NDA and all, he just expects it to be like WoW, he doesn't know for sure.
You don't even need anyone to break the NDA to see how similar TOR is to WoW. There is a plethora of information available on this game, including gameplay videos. Not to mention the simple fact that BioWare developers have all but professed their devotion to WoW.
I can go into much more detail but unfortunately this site honors NDA agreements of other corporations so until you actually play the game, you'll be wondering whether I'm right or wrong.
I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Well, I prefer TOR style combat over gw2, from what I seen in todays live stream of the charr. Just looked to me like a big player with flashy animations going in and taking out multiple enemies with ease. NPCs all looked pretty stupid, as in they just stand around and pretty much do as expected and set themselves up to be killed... At least in TOR the npc have sense enough to take cover.
You have to keep in mind that the charr combat was a developer using an extremely high level character with "cheats" enabled.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Combat - Well, they aren't trying to break the mode there as far as I know so not really an issue.
Instances - other games do have instances you know.
Quest Driven - other games are quest driven
gear oriented - other games had a heavy reliance on gear before wow
Raids - other games had raids before wow
battlegrounds - well, DAoC had areas where people could battle but I doubt they were specifically battlegrounds. did wow pioneer the battleground? Don't know. But they are not the only game to use battle grounds.
Stylized cartoony graphics - possbibly. I do think they planned to have a more stylized approach so the game would age well and run on more machines.
dumb downed game play - well, that is a matter of opinion. You would (and might have?) have to define "smart" game play to at least give a point of reference.
I'm not sure many mmo's have "smart" game play.
I think players need to look at what SWToR is trying to do differently instead of creating what they think it should be doing and then making the comparison. The game is not wow but then again it is being made to capture a large audience. I imagine they are very conscious of the fact that they might attract a large casual audience. Certianly with the amount of money they are spending they will want/need to capture a large audience.
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My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
You'll see when you play it.
Thought so.
It's the best I can do without breaking the NDA.
Haven't heard that one before.
Do you honestly think that I care whether you believe me or not? Like I said, you'll find out eventually either way. Good luck!
Of course you care what we think. You have over 2000 posts on this forum and went to all the trouble of stealing some spiffy signature from someone. We're the hot air in your balloon sonny. And we don't believe you. Mainly because there's videos out there of TOR gameplay (leaked from manly men who aren't hiding under the NDA skirt) which clearly show TOR as an open world MMO. To top it off TOR has almost no loading screens. Over 2000 posts over 6 years since I've been a member. WoW is an open world MMO also, what's your point?
WoW is a single player RPG? Well shiver me timbers! I've been doing it wrong! Were I still playing that game I'd log in right now and tell my guildmates they were all figments of your imagination.
My expectation is for this game to be exactly like WoW only more single-player oriented.
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
Just look around the industry a bit and you won't need a reason why some feel that's where most games are headed. Whether they turn out to be or not really doesn't matter, in the last few years most games have turned out that way. Most companies follow trends it's as simple as that.
My expectations are basically the same, and they're not of a negative influence. I still think it will be something close to what he said, which isn't exactly a bad thing. It's just not for everyone.
SWTOR doesn't look to much like WoW, if he says he 'expects' it to be, he could explain a bit more.
Single-player oriented, if that's how you plan on playing it. I can't argue with that, they said the game would be soloable from start to finish, you'd miss group content, but level cap without help. This doesn't bother me either, actually neither does it being comparable to WoW.
What I'd like to know is, how?
But he can't talk because of the NDA and all, he just expects it to be like WoW, he doesn't know for sure.
You don't even need anyone to break the NDA to see how similar TOR is to WoW. There is a plethora of information available on this game, including gameplay videos. Not to mention the simple fact that BioWare developers have all but professed their devotion to WoW.
I can go into much more detail but unfortunately this site honors NDA agreements of other corporations so until you actually play the game, you'll be wondering whether I'm right or wrong.
I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Ha, if you had played the game, you wouldn't have even tested a quarter of the things you just mentioned. Thats called being "untruthful", which you are. Instances? Where? In the flashpoints? I don't even need to break NDA to tell you that the world is completely open, and the world is immense. I don't need to go into telling you that the flashpoints are seamless and you pass through them without a hint of lag. I don't need to tell you that each class has a specific drive that powers the way each skill works, or that there is no Auto Attack, and I don't need to tell you any of that because not only is that NOT breaching the NDA and is prevalent on the DEMOs, but its also very much so the truth. I also know by far that you've never played a RAID, you've never tried a battleground, and that you don't know thing 1 about to what extent the gear selection stage is at or how that effects end game content at all.
And I know all this for a fact. On a side note, whats your name on the SWTOR forums.
If you read carefully, I never mentioned that the things I listed were the things I tested. I deliberately went out of my way to just talk about the information everyone knows so far.
There is a reason I said: "I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA."
You don't need to tell me any of those things but my point is that TOR is similar to WoW. WoW, for the most part, has a seamless world and each class has a specific drive that powers the way each skill works. The fact that there is a missing Auto Attack is a minor difference in the overall swing of things.
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minus the whole pausing of the game to pick moves...yes exactly like kotor :P
Well that's a step above what I'm expecting, so I'll be happy with that. I'm prone to expect the worst possible scenario. Therefor I'm rarely disappointed.
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I won't be. I know that you're wrong. Will the game play similar to WoW, yes it will. (In the same way you could say GW2 plays similar to WoW) Will it play exactly like WoW, no, no it won't. I don't even have to break the NDA to tell you that . Could I breach the NDA to prove it? I sure as hell could, and I'm not even in gametesting, but I wouldn't want to endanger those that I know that are. So, you can either find this information yourself by looking up information on the current system, viewing the in game gameplay, or finding leaks to whats currently out there, or you can continue to pretend you know everything about the *limited* gametesting currently going on.
The game is WoW set in Star Wars universe. It's obvious just by watching the gameplay videos.
Combat = standard MMO fare.
Instances = WoW.
Quest driven = WoW.
Gear oriented = WoW.
Raids = WoW.
Battlegrounds = WoW.
Stylized cartoony graphics = WoW.
Dumbed down gameplay = WoW.
How often do you get new skills? Ask your gametesting buddies, since you're not in but know that I'm wrong. lol
I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA.
As far as your GW2 comment, unless you were in beta, you can't even comment on the game as we are only now seeing actual gameplay. And you know what? Combat in GW2 looks much more exciting and smoother than in TOR judging by videos alone.
Probably the best stance you could have on any game.
Ahaha, I see now...you seen some random leaked screenshots and came to the idea you could fool people by saying you're in testing, that's not a bad idea. Nice try though, can't say you was close to success, but you tried.
Okay, lets see, Battlegrounds: EQ 2
Raids: EQ1 and 2, Anarchy online
BoE and BoP items: yeah again EQ 1 and 2 as well as anarchy online
Yeah i can see how thats unique to WoW and not just general things to almost every MMO....
I have no grip with you but pretty much everything in WoW has indeed been done somewhere either near that time or before it. My point is that if it's an MMo it's gonna have these things it's part of it being an MMo, every department store has a mens and womens section, that doesn't make the store bland that just makes it a department store.
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Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Of course you care what we think. You have over 2000 posts on this forum and went to all the trouble of stealing some spiffy signature from someone. We're the hot air in your balloon sonny.
And we don't believe you. Mainly because there's videos out there of TOR gameplay (leaked from manly men who aren't hiding under the NDA skirt) which clearly show TOR as an open world MMO. To top it off TOR has almost no loading screens.
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If that makes you feel better, believe what you want. But I still played the game before you. lol
Not only that. I've also submitted my feedback to BioWare... Imagine the damage I could potentially cause?
I missed one, sorry, Species assigned to certain professions. As this wasn't clarified whether this is crafting or classes i'm gonna guess classes.
EQ1 only allowed certain race class combinations, not every race could be a shaman and iksars couldn't be paladins.
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These are resemblences, not anything unique to WoW. Actually I'm glad you said something, but the term WoW clone will continue to be used, : /
This is getting cute.
Ha, if you had played the game, you wouldn't have even tested a quarter of the things you just mentioned. Thats called being "untruthful", which you are. Instances? Where? In the flashpoints? I don't even need to break NDA to tell you that the world is completely open, and the world is immense. I don't need to go into telling you that the flashpoints are seamless and you pass through them without a hint of lag. I don't need to tell you that each class has a specific drive that powers the way each skill works, or that there is no Auto Attack, and I don't need to tell you any of that because not only is that NOT breaching the NDA and is prevalent on the DEMOs, but its also very much so the truth. I also know by far that you've never played a RAID, you've never tried a battleground, and that you don't know thing 1 about to what extent the gear selection stage is at or how that effects end game content at all.
And I know all this for a fact. On a side note, whats your name on the SWTOR forums.
Well, I prefer TOR style combat over gw2, from what I seen in todays live stream of the charr. Just looked to me like a big player with flashy animations going in and taking out multiple enemies with ease. NPCs all looked pretty stupid, as in they just stand around and pretty much do as expected and set themselves up to be killed... At least in TOR the npc have sense enough to take cover.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
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WoW is an open world MMO also, what's your point?
Yeah, i know it will, thats what i don't like, an MMO is no longer just an MMO now it's either a WoW clone, or it's not. We can't see past this title and we really need to. We need to see beyond the structure of the game and see if the game itself is any good.
I'm still holding out to see what this game is like, i'm very interested at the moment.
To Heartless: i doubt that cause the game is under NDA, if what you say is true your violating a contract you signed with Bioware, or your friend is, i'm lost cause it seems to be going both ways. Either way until a product is released information that is not public knowledge that is released before a games release date is a breach of that contract. I should know having to signed that contract every time i return to work after a month or two.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
The skill levels he talked about were priceless. That was leaked some time ago, a series of pictures showing all kinds of skills including the levels of the skills you can purchase. Out of everything he mentioned this was the only thing he could have possibly tested, and it was leaked, the rest was just ranting on his part.
Also be sure to check the join date on his name, if he doesn't hand you random forum user claiming it as himself.
I only play bioware for the story. I hate all bioware games base on gamplay.
With that being said, Bioware deserve to make RPG games with great story only(Cant wait for Dragon Age 2).MMorpg, so many aspect will be missed.
The story is there, voice are there, but during story and voice, are you still in the players world or you are in your own corner with a Bot companion that i heard about or simply with few players while excluding the whole player base?
Age of conan, lvl 1 to 20 with voice and animated story made for one player was great, but once you leave tortage, all this is over. You start playing with the AOC community no matter what you do.
Fact is, you read faster then you hear them speak. Its an mmorpg, they have to keep it massive between the player and the whole community.
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You have to keep in mind that the charr combat was a developer using an extremely high level character with "cheats" enabled.
Combat - Well, they aren't trying to break the mode there as far as I know so not really an issue.
Instances - other games do have instances you know.
Quest Driven - other games are quest driven
gear oriented - other games had a heavy reliance on gear before wow
Raids - other games had raids before wow
battlegrounds - well, DAoC had areas where people could battle but I doubt they were specifically battlegrounds. did wow pioneer the battleground? Don't know. But they are not the only game to use battle grounds.
Stylized cartoony graphics - possbibly. I do think they planned to have a more stylized approach so the game would age well and run on more machines.
dumb downed game play - well, that is a matter of opinion. You would (and might have?) have to define "smart" game play to at least give a point of reference.
I'm not sure many mmo's have "smart" game play.
I think players need to look at what SWToR is trying to do differently instead of creating what they think it should be doing and then making the comparison. The game is not wow but then again it is being made to capture a large audience. I imagine they are very conscious of the fact that they might attract a large casual audience. Certianly with the amount of money they are spending they will want/need to capture a large audience.
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Gonna add that to your list of similarities?
Makes sense, you went into great depth in explaining why. Bravo.
You'll see when you play it.
Thought so.
It's the best I can do without breaking the NDA.
Haven't heard that one before.
Do you honestly think that I care whether you believe me or not? Like I said, you'll find out eventually either way.
Good luck!
Of course you care what we think. You have over 2000 posts on this forum and went to all the trouble of stealing some spiffy signature from someone. We're the hot air in your balloon sonny.
And we don't believe you. Mainly because there's videos out there of TOR gameplay (leaked from manly men who aren't hiding under the NDA skirt) which clearly show TOR as an open world MMO. To top it off TOR has almost no loading screens.
Over 2000 posts over 6 years since I've been a member.
WoW is an open world MMO also, what's your point?
WoW is a single player RPG? Well shiver me timbers! I've been doing it wrong! Were I still playing that game I'd log in right now and tell my guildmates they were all figments of your imagination.
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RPG company+EA release. 'nuff said.
Let's stay on topic guys. This isn't a WoW vs. SWTOR thread. Thanks!
If you read carefully, I never mentioned that the things I listed were the things I tested. I deliberately went out of my way to just talk about the information everyone knows so far.
There is a reason I said: "I can go on but I believe that we've reached the limit of the stuff not covered by the NDA."
You don't need to tell me any of those things but my point is that TOR is similar to WoW. WoW, for the most part, has a seamless world and each class has a specific drive that powers the way each skill works. The fact that there is a missing Auto Attack is a minor difference in the overall swing of things.