I think some of you need to look at TOR from a different perspective.
SWG was a game that you could "live in", and is the last of its breed imo. Since WoW there hasn't been another type of those games released, since WoW's release all games have that "it's a game, instant gratification" feel. So many of us who don't consider Eve enjoyable have been waiting and waiting for that next UO, SWG, ok ok sandbox if you will.
Since waiting for that game many of us have enjoyed single player games, for example Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and we or at least I enjoyed the hell out of those games. I paid $50 for roughly 50 hours of entertainment.
So my advice is to take those single player expectations into TOR, not the mmorpg perspective. Pay your $50 for the game and get your 30 days access and enjoy your story as your would in SRPG. I'm sure you will get way more than 50 hours of enjoyment, way more than you usually get for your money. And here is the kicker, if you want a different story (whole new game), switch factions take a different class and enjoy that ride for only a $15 sub fee!
If within that time you find an mmorpg that is passable and you'd like to stick around for a few months, well thats a choice your gonna have to make but I think you will have definetly gotten more for your money than any game released in over half a decade.
So just take this perspective and I think you will save yourselves alot of disappointment.
This is exaclty how people need to look at it. If it doesn't look like your idea of what you want in an MMO, and by that I mean it is not 100 percent Sandbox. Than play the game for what it is good at, and does have. It has an awesome story , we have gathered that much about this game from personal experiences, and reviews , and the dev team.
Play it for what you know it has, enjoy it, then hey, you know you may just wind up liking the MMO aspect of the game, wow like themepark style or not.
I think some of you need to look at TOR from a different perspective.
SWG was a game that you could "live in", and is the last of its breed imo. Since WoW there hasn't been another type of those games released, since WoW's release all games have that "it's a game, instant gratification" feel. So many of us who don't consider Eve enjoyable have been waiting and waiting for that next UO, SWG, ok ok sandbox if you will.
Since waiting for that game many of us have enjoyed single player games, for example Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and we or at least I enjoyed the hell out of those games. I paid $50 for roughly 50 hours of entertainment.
So my advice is to take those single player expectations into TOR, not the mmorpg perspective. Pay your $50 for the game and get your 30 days access and enjoy your story as your would in SRPG. I'm sure you will get way more than 50 hours of enjoyment, way more than you usually get for your money. And here is the kicker, if you want a different story (whole new game), switch factions take a different class and enjoy that ride for only a $15 sub fee!
If within that time you find an mmorpg that is passable and you'd like to stick around for a few months, well thats a choice your gonna have to make but I think you will have definetly gotten more for your money than any game released in over half a decade.
So just take this perspective and I think you will save yourselves alot of disappointment.
This is exaclty how people need to look at it. If it doesn't look like your idea of what you want in an MMO, and by that I mean it is not 100 percent Sandbox. Than play the game for what it is good at, and does have. It has an awesome story , we have gathered that much about this game from personal experiences, and reviews , and the dev team.
Play it for what you know it has, enjoy it, then hey, you know you may just wind up liking the MMO aspect of the game, wow like themepark style or not.
so if your like me, and you thought those single player games were really boring.. then... not exactly an incentive now is it.
I think some of you need to look at TOR from a different perspective.
SWG was a game that you could "live in", and is the last of its breed imo. Since WoW there hasn't been another type of those games released, since WoW's release all games have that "it's a game, instant gratification" feel. So many of us who don't consider Eve enjoyable have been waiting and waiting for that next UO, SWG, ok ok sandbox if you will.
Since waiting for that game many of us have enjoyed single player games, for example Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and we or at least I enjoyed the hell out of those games. I paid $50 for roughly 50 hours of entertainment.
So my advice is to take those single player expectations into TOR, not the mmorpg perspective. Pay your $50 for the game and get your 30 days access and enjoy your story as your would in SRPG. I'm sure you will get way more than 50 hours of enjoyment, way more than you usually get for your money. And here is the kicker, if you want a different story (whole new game), switch factions take a different class and enjoy that ride for only a $15 sub fee!
If within that time you find an mmorpg that is passable and you'd like to stick around for a few months, well thats a choice your gonna have to make but I think you will have definetly gotten more for your money than any game released in over half a decade.
So just take this perspective and I think you will save yourselves alot of disappointment.
This is exaclty how people need to look at it. If it doesn't look like your idea of what you want in an MMO, and by that I mean it is not 100 percent Sandbox. Than play the game for what it is good at, and does have. It has an awesome story , we have gathered that much about this game from personal experiences, and reviews , and the dev team.
Play it for what you know it has, enjoy it, then hey, you know you may just wind up liking the MMO aspect of the game, wow like themepark style or not.
so if your like me, and you thought those single player games were really boring.. then... not exactly an incentive now is it.
If you think a good story within a huge MMO open world experience is gonna be boring, then I suppose it may not be for you. But eh, what do I know.
Ah yes, it's why I always return to this forum, such a wonderful dose of friendly, happy people.
NOT.
No fair Elikal.
If anything, most (if not all? I don't see any flaming posts) people in this thread have been very polite but not all are in agreement. Some are, but not all.
If the purpose of your thread was to create some sort of commiseration committee I think it's understandable that it's going to be hit or miss. And you have to admit that you've broached this line before and on several different occasions.
I mean, in the end, do really think it's fair to keep making "I quit" posts? You are far more reasonable than that I'm sure.
Personally I want you to find "the game" for you. And I do implore you to at least try this game for what it is. But I do think that letting go once and for all will be a great boon for you.
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Ah yes, it's why I always return to this forum, such a wonderful dose of friendly, happy people.
NOT.
You expect a negative post to not to have disagreement? Of an IP like Star Wars?
The game looks fun to me regardless of what it has or doesn't. I will be playing at launch.
If the game doesn't appeal to you then don't buy it. It's like when I visit the game section in Wal-mart, I may see something interesting on the cover, but when I turn it over and see the back and it doesn't look so interesting, i put it back and forget it.
A quiting post for a game that hasn't even launched? Seriously? You'd think they would just close out their browser or check a different game instead and leave it behind. But the fact you continue to check on it means you still have an interest and just like everyone else has said, "See you in the game."
"If you're going to act like a noob, I'll treat you like one." -Caskio
I think some of you need to look at TOR from a different perspective.
SWG was a game that you could "live in", and is the last of its breed imo. Since WoW there hasn't been another type of those games released, since WoW's release all games have that "it's a game, instant gratification" feel. So many of us who don't consider Eve enjoyable have been waiting and waiting for that next UO, SWG, ok ok sandbox if you will.
Since waiting for that game many of us have enjoyed single player games, for example Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and we or at least I enjoyed the hell out of those games. I paid $50 for roughly 50 hours of entertainment.
So my advice is to take those single player expectations into TOR, not the mmorpg perspective. Pay your $50 for the game and get your 30 days access and enjoy your story as your would in SRPG. I'm sure you will get way more than 50 hours of enjoyment, way more than you usually get for your money. And here is the kicker, if you want a different story (whole new game), switch factions take a different class and enjoy that ride for only a $15 sub fee!
If within that time you find an mmorpg that is passable and you'd like to stick around for a few months, well thats a choice your gonna have to make but I think you will have definetly gotten more for your money than any game released in over half a decade.
So just take this perspective and I think you will save yourselves alot of disappointment.
This is exaclty how people need to look at it. If it doesn't look like your idea of what you want in an MMO, and by that I mean it is not 100 percent Sandbox. Than play the game for what it is good at, and does have. It has an awesome story , we have gathered that much about this game from personal experiences, and reviews , and the dev team.
Play it for what you know it has, enjoy it, then hey, you know you may just wind up liking the MMO aspect of the game, wow like themepark style or not.
so if your like me, and you thought those single player games were really boring.. then... not exactly an incentive now is it.
If you think a good story within a huge MMO open world experience is gonna be boring, then I suppose it may not be for you. But eh, what do I know.
The problem here is good story. Think about it, its fine and dandy to have a save the world/ galaxy story in a single player game cause there is no one else to steal the spot light. When your in an MMO like setting and you say "Hey, yo man, I just saved Hoth from being esploded!" You got like 40 others like, "Yeah ... and? I did that stupid quest like weeks ago, n00b lololol." Kinda takes the flare out of having an awesome story.
You know I can't help but sympathise with the OP, it's like I can really feel the guys frustration.
I think it's a bit like taking a beautiful tree & then taking away all the things that make it a beautiful living breathing thing & turning it into a plastic representation of a tree, sure it will still look ike a tree, but you know it's just not right.
I felt Mythic took the Warhammer IP & turned it into a saturday morning cartoon, it lost it's grit & it's blood & guts brutality along the way, and I feel BioWare are pretty much doing the same thing to Star Wars, cleansing it & purifying it is robbing it of it's real nature & substance, the real heart & soul of the Star Wars universe is it's very diversity & I think it's really short-sighted, conceited & arrogant of them to think you can't tell a story from anything other than a human perspective because the audience are humans, which is really rather condescending of them if you ask me.
Okay... well they didn't say you can't tell a story from anything other than a human perspective, as a matter of fact they said if they wanted to tell a story of a Tran, or a Wookie, then they could easily make a separate game for it.... they did say that the story they are telling in this MMO doesn't fit any of the crazy species... I really don't see what all the hate and fuss is about as this DOES make sense with the Movies, all of the main characters in the Star Wars story are Humans... not even Chiss or any of the others that we can play (except Zabrak), they are ALL..... human. All of these wierd species we know about are from the expanded universe and table stop RPG, but as far as the movies go they were all just background fodder, nothing more, except Chewie... and he was Hans sidekick... no main points in the story for him besides in the prequals helping Yoda escape Kashyyk.
And as far as the OP is concerned.... I'll post this section again :
As far as I'm concerned.... SWTOR has hit every point of this Wiki definition of what an MMORPG is. And if it isn't... well then "OP" why don't you make your own Star Wars MMORPG and do better. And if the "diversity", as you like to call it, is better in SWG, then by all means go play that... oh, oh , oh.. what's that? Oh you don't like SWG?! Well alrighty then... stick to whatever MMO you're playing or NOT playing right now, but for god's sake, please stop whining about how much you hate a game that's not even out yet.
"Boohoo, they haven't kept any of their promises, boohoo". Name ONE promise they announced that they haven't kept? As far as I'm concerned and have seen, they've delivered EVERY SINGLE thing they've announced so far. You're main source of your Rant is MAINLY about the lack of all the wierd alien species to be able to play. Everything else they're doing by MMO Definition is hitting the mmoRPG aspect dead center. You also don't even know how much freedom you can have yet... you haven't played it.. how do you know it's completely linear and restrictive.
So, I agree with a few of the people throughout this thread... please don't let the door hit you on the way out... and please, stop repeating to everyone how much you hate this game... I'm sure more than just myself is kind of tired of reading how much you're fed up with this game. By all means don't play it, but please stop WHINING about how much Bioware has "Betrayed you".. that sounds so childish and silly. lol
I lost my interest in this game a long time ago...welcome to the club
I wish the people who lost interest in the game would stop posting for a while.
When I found out STO was bad, I posted for a couple months immediately before release on how it was looking bad. I didn't stick around for 3-6 months like people are doing with TOR (and heck, maybe even another 9 months for some of the poeple).
Maybe the people who think the game sucks should take a break from the forum for half a year until just a bit before launch. Seems like the more civil way to go rather than trolling the forums for a year.
To the OP: Did you play and like KOTOR? If the answer is yes you are a hypocrite. If the answer is no it's safe to say you are fairly alone with your opinion. Either way, as others have said...see you in game.
The problem here is good story. Think about it, its fine and dandy to have a save the world/ galaxy story in a single player game cause there is no one else to steal the spot light. When your in an MMO like setting and you say "Hey, yo man, I just saved Hoth from being esploded!" You got like 40 others like, "Yeah ... and? I did that stupid quest like weeks ago, n00b lololol." Kinda takes the flare out of having an awesome story.
Okay, now THIS is just completely stupid and ridiculous...... Otakun... EVERY SINGLE MMO IN EXSISTANCE is like this. There are NO exceptions. Everyone is doing the same thing, everyone is killing the Lich King, everyone is always waiting in line to do the same exact story arcs.... So what is the problem with this game? Why is it that people use this as a dumb excuse for hating on it. It just doesn't make any sense, and again, THE GAME ISN'T OUT YET.......
The problem here is good story. Think about it, its fine and dandy to have a save the world/ galaxy story in a single player game cause there is no one else to steal the spot light. When your in an MMO like setting and you say "Hey, yo man, I just saved Hoth from being esploded!" You got like 40 others like, "Yeah ... and? I did that stupid quest like weeks ago, n00b lololol." Kinda takes the flare out of having an awesome story.
So you want to play MMORPGs that have ZERO story then? Because whatever flaws you state exist in all current themeparks...TOR is making a huge step in the right direction though by giving you meaningful choices about how you interact with the story both solo AND in groups.
As for Sandboxes, they are largely story light and that doesn't interest a lot of people (the sandbox market just doesn't seem to attract the numbers of other MMOs). IMHO, they fail to make a living, breathing world because the npcs are always so flat and don't do anything. It's a problem just as big as the one themeparks have.
You know, I am a Star Wars fan as long as SW exists. And yes, while we all have our different approaches and we all love different things about Star Wars, I always felt, what made our fandom great was, everyone could be who or what he wanted. We didn't have any prejudices against anyone's personal approach to Star Wars. For me, SW, as in contrast to Star Trek, always mean a vast galaxy, tens of thousands of worlds and intelligent species, an endless plethora of really different settings. Not like Trek, where essentially all aliens are humans with odd ears or foreheads and all cultures are just a copy of some earth historical cultre. No, SW was dirty, diverse and dark.
I think some of you need to look at TOR from a different perspective.
SWG was a game that you could "live in", and is the last of its breed imo. Since WoW there hasn't been another type of those games released, since WoW's release all games have that "it's a game, instant gratification" feel. So many of us who don't consider Eve enjoyable have been waiting and waiting for that next UO, SWG, ok ok sandbox if you will.
Since waiting for that game many of us have enjoyed single player games, for example Dragon Age and Mass Effect, and we or at least I enjoyed the hell out of those games. I paid $50 for roughly 50 hours of entertainment.
So my advice is to take those single player expectations into TOR, not the mmorpg perspective. Pay your $50 for the game and get your 30 days access and enjoy your story as your would in SRPG. I'm sure you will get way more than 50 hours of enjoyment, way more than you usually get for your money. And here is the kicker, if you want a different story (whole new game), switch factions take a different class and enjoy that ride for only a $15 sub fee!
If within that time you find an mmorpg that is passable and you'd like to stick around for a few months, well thats a choice your gonna have to make but I think you will have definetly gotten more for your money than any game released in over half a decade.
So just take this perspective and I think you will save yourselves alot of disappointment.
This is exaclty how people need to look at it. If it doesn't look like your idea of what you want in an MMO, and by that I mean it is not 100 percent Sandbox. Than play the game for what it is good at, and does have. It has an awesome story , we have gathered that much about this game from personal experiences, and reviews , and the dev team.
Play it for what you know it has, enjoy it, then hey, you know you may just wind up liking the MMO aspect of the game, wow like themepark style or not.
so if your like me, and you thought those single player games were really boring.. then... not exactly an incentive now is it.
If you think a good story within a huge MMO open world experience is gonna be boring, then I suppose it may not be for you. But eh, what do I know.
The problem here is good story. Think about it, its fine and dandy to have a save the world/ galaxy story in a single player game cause there is no one else to steal the spot light. When your in an MMO like setting and you say "Hey, yo man, I just saved Hoth from being esploded!" You got like 40 others like, "Yeah ... and? I did that stupid quest like weeks ago, n00b lololol." Kinda takes the flare out of having an awesome story.
Welcome to MMORPGs. Where everyone does the exact same thing.
"If you're going to act like a noob, I'll treat you like one." -Caskio
I lost my interest in this game a long time ago...welcome to the club
I wish the people who lost interest in the game would stop posting for a while.
When I found out STO was bad, I posted for a couple months immediately before release on how it was looking bad. I didn't stick around for 3-6 months like people are doing with TOR (and heck, maybe even another 9 months for some of the poeple).
Maybe the people who think the game sucks should take a break from the forum for half a year until just a bit before launch. Seems like the more civil way to go rather than trolling the forums for a year.
This Is like only the third time I have posted about how I am not intrested in the Game.
The problem here is good story. Think about it, its fine and dandy to have a save the world/ galaxy story in a single player game cause there is no one else to steal the spot light. When your in an MMO like setting and you say "Hey, yo man, I just saved Hoth from being esploded!" You got like 40 others like, "Yeah ... and? I did that stupid quest like weeks ago, n00b lololol." Kinda takes the flare out of having an awesome story.
Okay, now THIS is just completely stupid and ridiculous...... Otakun... EVERY SINGLE MMO IN EXSISTANCE is like this. There are NO exceptions. Everyone is doing the same thing, everyone is killing the Lich King, everyone is always waiting in line to do the same exact story arcs.... So what is the problem with this game? Why is it that people use this as a dumb excuse for hating on it. It just doesn't make any sense, and again, THE GAME ISN'T OUT YET.......
CAUSE PEOPLE USE IT AS THE MAIN ASPECT OF LIKING THE GAME!! If you say its like every other MMO then your agreeing with me that the story is going to turn out to be pointless garbage which turns the huge aspect of liking the game into crap! Are you not getting it?? You say its a dumb excuse but if you expect me to take into the bullcrap hype then give me something good to work with, don't shovel crap that doesn't work and expect everyone to sit and eat it.
I'm going to sum up and agrre with some of what you posted to this because I kind of agree. I am in the vein that ip games go the same was star trek games go. They will NEVER appease everyone, and when they do they don't make sound financial sense for the companies that make them so they change them as in the case of star wars galaxxies. However all the hype about the oold republic sent me back to star wars galaxies and I'll be blunt, for all the ranting and raving about pre/ post nge experiences the game it self still offeres all I'd want in a star wars mmo. It casual enough i could walk away from it for 3 months and not miss out but still involved anough to provide an engrossing experience. Noone is ever going to get exactly what they want out of a game but for just once I'd liek to see a community actually embrace a single game and keep their passion for it regardless of any changes devs think are fundamental to mantyian a profit. Mosrt sci fi genres...including trek, bsg, stargate etc have very tight knit communities that are doing themselves a dis-service by not embracing things that expand that community to incorporate new generations. What that eventually leads to is the death of an entire genre. Fanboyism is it''s own worse enemy as it puts up a wall between indoctrinating new people into a genre and appeasing the existing fanbase. paramount knew this when they rebooted trek...cryptic ignored this when they made tso....but overall its the fanbase that hurts itself by being too finicky. I play clone wars online, I am a fairly hard core star wars fan...does that make me a traitor to the genre? If you think so maybe you should ask yourself why...clone wars has introdouced an entirely new generation to star wars..one that would have been barely touched by another series of films or a live action tv show. think about your decisions and how you approach people interested int he genre..the choices you make might lead to the demise of the things you love
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East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011 -------------------- Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
Ah yes, it's why I always return to this forum, such a wonderful dose of friendly, happy people.
NOT.
No fair Elikal.
If anything, most (if not all? I don't see any flaming posts) people in this thread have been very polite but not all are in agreement. Some are, but not all.
If the purpose of your thread was to create some sort of commiseration committee I think it's understandable that it's going to be hit or miss. And you have to admit that you've broached this line before and on several different occasions.
I mean, in the end, do really think it's fair to keep making "I quit" posts? You are far more reasonable than that I'm sure.
Personally I want you to find "the game" for you. And I do implore you to at least try this game for what it is. But I do think that letting go once and for all will be a great boon for you.
I don't mind different opinions. When someone tells, me, I love human only MMOs with story railroading, I can not share it, but still respect that.
For me Star Wars is... I dunno... something BIG. Yeah, it sounds nerdy and childish. But for me SW has been a part of my life as fan. I know, for others it is not like that. But since for me it is so, I feel what Bioware is doing like a personal betrayal. That isn't reasonable, but I don't think I mus take mockery like ppl posting fun pics (dog with pipe, Lukes NOOO, and whatever.) It is just not right to make fun of ppl.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
If the choice is SWG 2 or WOW In Space. I will go with WOW in space. SWG never was what some remember it to be, whereas WOW quality is something to aspire to. The game is going to have a lot of familiar elements, after alll its an MMO and some things are required to make it work, hopefully it will be the good elements of what went before and not a rehash of the same tired, failed formula we have seen so much of lately. Nobody is more skeptical than myself about upcoming mmo's but hype and trash talk about unreleased games all go in the same trash can while I wait. Thinking for oneself isnt too popular on this site bt some of us insist on doing so.
WoW has quality, but can hardly be called an mmo these days, or at least how I look at an mmo, a game you play together with many others and interact with and build a community ...
Honestly I never really looked at SWTOR as an mmorpg, more like a single player online game with a sub. And if I ever play it, I will know it will just be for the ride in the theme park, not for the long haul.
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To the OP: Did you play and like KOTOR? If the answer is yes you are a hypocrite. If the answer is no it's safe to say you are fairly alone with your opinion. Either way, as others have said...see you in game.
What kind of catch question is that?
There were aspects of KOTOR I liked, and aspects of KOTOR I didnt like. Still, for a MMORPG I have quite different expectations than for a single player game were I am the sole hero of the story.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I don't mind different opinions. When someone tells, me, I love human only MMOs with story railroading, I can not share it, but still respect that.
For me Star Wars is... I dunno... something BIG. Yeah, it sounds nerdy and childish. But for me SW has been a part of my life as fan. I know, for others it is not like that. But since for me it is so, I feel what Bioware is doing like a personal betrayal. That isn't reasonable, but I don't think I mus take mockery like ppl posting fun pics (dog with pipe, Lukes NOOO, and whatever.) It is just not right to make fun of ppl.
Welcome to my world, but Warhammer Online was the game that did it to me. Warhammer has one of the best stories in the gaming industry, the potential a MMO game using the Warhammer universe has so many possibilities. But EA decided to dumb it down and completely disregard the story and even more importantly, completely rearrange the world to make it simple for 8 year olds.
It is just an awful thing when companies decide to just cut out important features of a story and its universe.
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Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
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This is exaclty how people need to look at it. If it doesn't look like your idea of what you want in an MMO, and by that I mean it is not 100 percent Sandbox. Than play the game for what it is good at, and does have. It has an awesome story , we have gathered that much about this game from personal experiences, and reviews , and the dev team.
Play it for what you know it has, enjoy it, then hey, you know you may just wind up liking the MMO aspect of the game, wow like themepark style or not.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
so if your like me, and you thought those single player games were really boring.. then... not exactly an incentive now is it.
Ah yes, it's why I always return to this forum, such a wonderful dose of friendly, happy people.
NOT.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
SWTOR sucks ... move on to the next over hyped MMO and bash it. It's what I do.
I lost my interest in this game a long time ago...welcome to the club
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
If you think a good story within a huge MMO open world experience is gonna be boring, then I suppose it may not be for you. But eh, what do I know.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
No fair Elikal.
If anything, most (if not all? I don't see any flaming posts) people in this thread have been very polite but not all are in agreement. Some are, but not all.
If the purpose of your thread was to create some sort of commiseration committee I think it's understandable that it's going to be hit or miss. And you have to admit that you've broached this line before and on several different occasions.
I mean, in the end, do really think it's fair to keep making "I quit" posts? You are far more reasonable than that I'm sure.
Personally I want you to find "the game" for you. And I do implore you to at least try this game for what it is. But I do think that letting go once and for all will be a great boon for you.
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You expect a negative post to not to have disagreement? Of an IP like Star Wars?
The game looks fun to me regardless of what it has or doesn't. I will be playing at launch.
If the game doesn't appeal to you then don't buy it. It's like when I visit the game section in Wal-mart, I may see something interesting on the cover, but when I turn it over and see the back and it doesn't look so interesting, i put it back and forget it.
A quiting post for a game that hasn't even launched? Seriously? You'd think they would just close out their browser or check a different game instead and leave it behind. But the fact you continue to check on it means you still have an interest and just like everyone else has said, "See you in the game."
"If you're going to act like a noob, I'll treat you like one." -Caskio
Adventurers wear fancy pants!!!
The problem here is good story. Think about it, its fine and dandy to have a save the world/ galaxy story in a single player game cause there is no one else to steal the spot light. When your in an MMO like setting and you say "Hey, yo man, I just saved Hoth from being esploded!" You got like 40 others like, "Yeah ... and? I did that stupid quest like weeks ago, n00b lololol." Kinda takes the flare out of having an awesome story.
Okay... well they didn't say you can't tell a story from anything other than a human perspective, as a matter of fact they said if they wanted to tell a story of a Tran, or a Wookie, then they could easily make a separate game for it.... they did say that the story they are telling in this MMO doesn't fit any of the crazy species... I really don't see what all the hate and fuss is about as this DOES make sense with the Movies, all of the main characters in the Star Wars story are Humans... not even Chiss or any of the others that we can play (except Zabrak), they are ALL..... human. All of these wierd species we know about are from the expanded universe and table stop RPG, but as far as the movies go they were all just background fodder, nothing more, except Chewie... and he was Hans sidekick... no main points in the story for him besides in the prequals helping Yoda escape Kashyyk.
And as far as the OP is concerned.... I'll post this section again :
The definition of an MMORPG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game
As far as I'm concerned.... SWTOR has hit every point of this Wiki definition of what an MMORPG is. And if it isn't... well then "OP" why don't you make your own Star Wars MMORPG and do better. And if the "diversity", as you like to call it, is better in SWG, then by all means go play that... oh, oh , oh.. what's that? Oh you don't like SWG?! Well alrighty then... stick to whatever MMO you're playing or NOT playing right now, but for god's sake, please stop whining about how much you hate a game that's not even out yet.
"Boohoo, they haven't kept any of their promises, boohoo". Name ONE promise they announced that they haven't kept? As far as I'm concerned and have seen, they've delivered EVERY SINGLE thing they've announced so far. You're main source of your Rant is MAINLY about the lack of all the wierd alien species to be able to play. Everything else they're doing by MMO Definition is hitting the mmoRPG aspect dead center. You also don't even know how much freedom you can have yet... you haven't played it.. how do you know it's completely linear and restrictive.
So, I agree with a few of the people throughout this thread... please don't let the door hit you on the way out... and please, stop repeating to everyone how much you hate this game... I'm sure more than just myself is kind of tired of reading how much you're fed up with this game. By all means don't play it, but please stop WHINING about how much Bioware has "Betrayed you".. that sounds so childish and silly. lol
I wish the people who lost interest in the game would stop posting for a while.
When I found out STO was bad, I posted for a couple months immediately before release on how it was looking bad. I didn't stick around for 3-6 months like people are doing with TOR (and heck, maybe even another 9 months for some of the poeple).
Maybe the people who think the game sucks should take a break from the forum for half a year until just a bit before launch. Seems like the more civil way to go rather than trolling the forums for a year.
To the OP: Did you play and like KOTOR? If the answer is yes you are a hypocrite. If the answer is no it's safe to say you are fairly alone with your opinion. Either way, as others have said...see you in game.
Gotta do something until a decent enough game is released. Plus its fun to see SWs fanb0i posts.
Okay, now THIS is just completely stupid and ridiculous...... Otakun... EVERY SINGLE MMO IN EXSISTANCE is like this. There are NO exceptions. Everyone is doing the same thing, everyone is killing the Lich King, everyone is always waiting in line to do the same exact story arcs.... So what is the problem with this game? Why is it that people use this as a dumb excuse for hating on it. It just doesn't make any sense, and again, THE GAME ISN'T OUT YET.......
So you want to play MMORPGs that have ZERO story then? Because whatever flaws you state exist in all current themeparks...TOR is making a huge step in the right direction though by giving you meaningful choices about how you interact with the story both solo AND in groups.
As for Sandboxes, they are largely story light and that doesn't interest a lot of people (the sandbox market just doesn't seem to attract the numbers of other MMOs). IMHO, they fail to make a living, breathing world because the npcs are always so flat and don't do anything. It's a problem just as big as the one themeparks have.
You should watch more Star Trek.
Welcome to MMORPGs. Where everyone does the exact same thing.
"If you're going to act like a noob, I'll treat you like one." -Caskio
Adventurers wear fancy pants!!!
This Is like only the third time I have posted about how I am not intrested in the Game.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
CAUSE PEOPLE USE IT AS THE MAIN ASPECT OF LIKING THE GAME!! If you say its like every other MMO then your agreeing with me that the story is going to turn out to be pointless garbage which turns the huge aspect of liking the game into crap! Are you not getting it?? You say its a dumb excuse but if you expect me to take into the bullcrap hype then give me something good to work with, don't shovel crap that doesn't work and expect everyone to sit and eat it.
The only thing better than a rage quit post is a rage quit post for a game that hasn't released yet. haha, love it.
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East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011
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Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
Waiting on: Earthrise
Names: Citio, Goldie, Sportacus
I don't mind different opinions. When someone tells, me, I love human only MMOs with story railroading, I can not share it, but still respect that.
For me Star Wars is... I dunno... something BIG. Yeah, it sounds nerdy and childish. But for me SW has been a part of my life as fan. I know, for others it is not like that. But since for me it is so, I feel what Bioware is doing like a personal betrayal. That isn't reasonable, but I don't think I mus take mockery like ppl posting fun pics (dog with pipe, Lukes NOOO, and whatever.) It is just not right to make fun of ppl.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
WoW has quality, but can hardly be called an mmo these days, or at least how I look at an mmo, a game you play together with many others and interact with and build a community ...
Honestly I never really looked at SWTOR as an mmorpg, more like a single player online game with a sub. And if I ever play it, I will know it will just be for the ride in the theme park, not for the long haul.
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Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
What kind of catch question is that?
There were aspects of KOTOR I liked, and aspects of KOTOR I didnt like. Still, for a MMORPG I have quite different expectations than for a single player game were I am the sole hero of the story.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Welcome to my world, but Warhammer Online was the game that did it to me. Warhammer has one of the best stories in the gaming industry, the potential a MMO game using the Warhammer universe has so many possibilities. But EA decided to dumb it down and completely disregard the story and even more importantly, completely rearrange the world to make it simple for 8 year olds.
It is just an awful thing when companies decide to just cut out important features of a story and its universe.
East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011
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Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
Waiting on: Earthrise
Names: Citio, Goldie, Sportacus