There you have it. Turbine has plans to add tons of endgame content. If Turbine says it then you can count on it. After all, when did they every say one thing and do another? Other than the payment model change of course. Just grow some pipeweed and play a lute and wait. And dont forget to visit the cash shop.
and therre ya have it, another Philby post where he does not say which game has added more end game content than Turbine and still refuses to outline which MMO has the best current end game content. You even playing any MMO currently Philby, if so I am dying to hear which one? Or is your favorite MMO any game but LoTRO because you are still pineing for MEO? LOL
Since EQ2 went F2P im playing WOW. Both of which I stated had better endgame and content additions.
Edit. Now that you brought it up do you actually play lotro or just spam propaganda? Seems every lotro post has you cheerleading and defending the indefensible.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
And end-game in Lotro is just weak. Always was and probably always will. Even during the SoA days. It just got even worse with Mirkwood. Revamping and rescaling the old instances can work for now. What's gonna happen tho when there is a level recap on a future expansion and you end up leveling up 5 or 10 levels to do exactly the same instances you had been doing before to get exactly the same gear you had before with just about 2-3% more stats and AC?
So what game do you think has the best end game and why. Be specific. If you think it is EQ then don't just say that SOE had xxx paid expansions in 10 yeras for EQ, what did the expansion make it worth paying for? A higher level cap? A new raid ?
It is easy to say this sucks, any 6 year old can say he does not care for something. Tell us what WoW ( or your game of choice ) did in their expansions that added to end game and why was it good.
The way I see it the instnaced classics will never be obsolete because of the way they scale and how they did the loot with tokens that can be exchanged for the loot of your choice rather than a sword or piece of armor that will simply be replaced with the next expansion. I mean how many raids are worth running in EQII or WoW right now for max lvl characters and how much of their older content just sits idle with no groups interested in running them.
BTW if you botehred to read the Dev chat I lineked abopve you will see that Turbine does plan on adding more and more end game, just the last development cycle was redesigning the older content to be more accessable and worthwhile. You guys can put down the classic instances all you want but people who are playing the game and not just forum trolling are loving them. Compare the worthwhile endgame content in LoTRO to any otehr game and LoTRO comes out wayyyy ahead.
Man, several persons have answered you with a few examples, but you just refuse to read.
I already gave you an example of a game with more bosses in one single dungeon than lotro in the whole game. Go back and re-read.
Radiance is being removed and LI's (which I love!) Turbine is still deciding if they will remove them.
Is there a post somewhere where they metnion removign Legendary Items? that would be interesting.
not that I am aware of, I saw earlier where someone had posted that but I cannot find a dev reference on the official forums anywhere and during the last Dev chat nothing was mentioned. Also a lot of other info in there as far as to what to expect during the coming year.
<~DelmarWynn> Honvik: Question: What enhancements are turbine looking at adding for radiance/LI’s?
<@Jalessa>; We took Radiance outside, tied it up to some railroad tracks, and…well…I think you saw the end of this in Red Dead Redemption. Look for this in the future – we will be removing Radiance from LOTR
Just my opinion but I love legendaries, soert of anotehr sideways advancement systema nd allows me to tweak my gear to my play style. Sure beatsd the hell out of runing XXXX raid 50 dozen times hoping for the Really Rare Sword of Minstrel Uberness to drop like other mMO s do their endgame weapons. Just get a crafter to make you a nice 2nd age reforge and tweak it in with Runes, scrolls etc
i heard it from a reliable source the idea is being kicked around from what i was told. so don't scorch me cause i don't have a link
Why remove legendaries? I like LI. I dislike some aspects of their system but that can be tweaked I like them and the idea behind them. The main problem is the randomness combined with the rareness of first age stuff etc. Fact is most people want one or two particular legacies and the rest is gravy. So playing russian roulette on a First Age is problematic. Its fine on third ages and kinda ok with crafted second ages. Relics need some tweaking and tier 9 gets ridiculous but its ok in theory.
I don't see how they can just suddenly remove access to legacies either.
I can't see them removing it either, if anything was done I think it would be nice if they made an alternative to it where running a crafted weapon or dungeon drop would be just as good. But right now a crafted or dungeon drop weapon is just for off-hand use. I doubt it will happen I enjoy the LI system its such a good idea and completely original. (another form of it might exist in another game but I'm unaware of it . )
It seems like the arguments against end game stuff and for end game stuff are not matching up.
Those defending LotRO are saying that there is much more to do then get to level cap and raid dungeons killing bosses.
Those against LotRO are stating that there are much more bosses to kill and dungeons to raid at the level cap.
All in all, if what you want to do is race to level cap and do raids and kill bosses then LotRO isnt the game for you.
If you want to work up to level cap and do something other then just raid dungeons and kill bosses when you login. Then check out LotRO.
I have stated before I do not enjoy logging in just for a 2-5 hour raid of the same bosses I have fought time and time again. If cata brings up some more things to do at level cap I will be more then happy to go back, if it will still continue to just be the same crap I will not. I am not the raiding time, sure its fun but I want more then that. So I am finding satisfaction in LotRO. But that won't work for the next person.
I'm not really happy about AoC either, it just seems to have more raids and more instances like Lotro used to have during Shadows of Angmar time. Being really honest I don't really like any of current MMOs and waiting for anew and good one. Hopefully The Secret World will be good enough but past years have taught me one thing - do not pre-order any of them
I hear you man. I will only pre order if it gets me into a beta, and thats it, lol...
It seems like the arguments against end game stuff and for end game stuff are not matching up.
Those defending LotRO are saying that there is much more to do then get to level cap and raid dungeons killing bosses.
Those against LotRO are stating that there are much more bosses to kill and dungeons to raid at the level cap.
All in all, if what you want to do is race to level cap and do raids and kill bosses then LotRO isnt the game for you.
If you want to work up to level cap and do something other then just raid dungeons and kill bosses when you login. Then check out LotRO.
I have stated before I do not enjoy logging in just for a 2-5 hour raid of the same bosses I have fought time and time again. If cata brings up some more things to do at level cap I will be more then happy to go back, if it will still continue to just be the same crap I will not. I am not the raiding time, sure its fun but I want more then that. So I am finding satisfaction in LotRO. But that won't work for the next person.
My thing isnt racing to level cap but Ive had a capped toon for over a year and its one I started with in 2007. Turbine chose to change the payment model and rework starter and midlevel regions instead of taking care of the player base that had supported them since launch. Trying to get more without taking care of what they have may work but it didnt work with me. Also had a couple alts I messed around with while waiting for some high level content which again, they decided to forego with hopes of sucking in people with the F2P.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
It seems like the arguments against end game stuff and for end game stuff are not matching up.
Those defending LotRO are saying that there is much more to do then get to level cap and raid dungeons killing bosses.
Those against LotRO are stating that there are much more bosses to kill and dungeons to raid at the level cap.
All in all, if what you want to do is race to level cap and do raids and kill bosses then LotRO isnt the game for you.
If you want to work up to level cap and do something other then just raid dungeons and kill bosses when you login. Then check out LotRO.
I have stated before I do not enjoy logging in just for a 2-5 hour raid of the same bosses I have fought time and time again. If cata brings up some more things to do at level cap I will be more then happy to go back, if it will still continue to just be the same crap I will not. I am not the raiding time, sure its fun but I want more then that. So I am finding satisfaction in LotRO. But that won't work for the next person.
My thing isnt racing to level cap but Ive had a capped toon for over a year and its one I started with in 2007. Turbine chose to change the payment model and rework starter and midlevel regions instead of taking care of the player base that had supported them since launch. Trying to get more without taking care of what they have may work but it didnt work with me. Also had a couple alts I messed around with while waiting for some high level content which again, they decided to forego with hopes of sucking in people with the F2P.
I'm sure there will be added content for the end gamers, however when moving over to a new system especially free to play, you gotta think a lot of new members are gonna be jumping on board. Gotta make sure they stay. But I can see the concern of no new content for end game.
I feel as long as books come out regularly then we should be ok.
Other people are having the same issues in therir game of choice, look at me. I can't go back and play WoW now because I have an 80 that I've had for a while now and the content is all the same crap that has been there for so long.
I guess for you, for now, it is just time to get into another game, check back when some more content comes out
It seems like the arguments against end game stuff and for end game stuff are not matching up.
Those defending LotRO are saying that there is much more to do then get to level cap and raid dungeons killing bosses.
Those against LotRO are stating that there are much more bosses to kill and dungeons to raid at the level cap.
All in all, if what you want to do is race to level cap and do raids and kill bosses then LotRO isnt the game for you.
If you want to work up to level cap and do something other then just raid dungeons and kill bosses when you login. Then check out LotRO.
I have stated before I do not enjoy logging in just for a 2-5 hour raid of the same bosses I have fought time and time again. If cata brings up some more things to do at level cap I will be more then happy to go back, if it will still continue to just be the same crap I will not. I am not the raiding time, sure its fun but I want more then that. So I am finding satisfaction in LotRO. But that won't work for the next person.
My thing isnt racing to level cap but Ive had a capped toon for over a year and its one I started with in 2007. Turbine chose to change the payment model and rework starter and midlevel regions instead of taking care of the player base that had supported them since launch. Trying to get more without taking care of what they have may work but it didnt work with me. Also had a couple alts I messed around with while waiting for some high level content which again, they decided to forego with hopes of sucking in people with the F2P.
I'm sure there will be added content for the end gamers, however when moving over to a new system especially free to play, you gotta think a lot of new members are gonna be jumping on board. Gotta make sure they stay. But I can see the concern of no new content for end game.
I feel as long as books come out regularly then we should be ok.
Other people are having the same issues in therir game of choice, look at me. I can't go back and play WoW now because I have an 80 that I've had for a while now and the content is all the same crap that has been there for so long.
I guess for you, for now, it is just time to get into another game, check back when some more content comes out
Im playing WOW now, have been for sometime. I left lotro about two weeks after the F2P announcement, was going to go to EQ2 then they hit us with their version of F2P so I forgot that idea. I had been playing lotro and eq2 off and on switching back and forth for a few years. WOW is a good game ive got friends there and enjoy it so im good. New stuff on the horizon as well as the Cata xpac for WOW.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
It seems like the arguments against end game stuff and for end game stuff are not matching up.
Those defending LotRO are saying that there is much more to do then get to level cap and raid dungeons killing bosses.
Those against LotRO are stating that there are much more bosses to kill and dungeons to raid at the level cap.
All in all, if what you want to do is race to level cap and do raids and kill bosses then LotRO isnt the game for you.
If you want to work up to level cap and do something other then just raid dungeons and kill bosses when you login. Then check out LotRO.
I have stated before I do not enjoy logging in just for a 2-5 hour raid of the same bosses I have fought time and time again. If cata brings up some more things to do at level cap I will be more then happy to go back, if it will still continue to just be the same crap I will not. I am not the raiding time, sure its fun but I want more then that. So I am finding satisfaction in LotRO. But that won't work for the next person.
My thing isnt racing to level cap but Ive had a capped toon for over a year and its one I started with in 2007. Turbine chose to change the payment model and rework starter and midlevel regions instead of taking care of the player base that had supported them since launch. Trying to get more without taking care of what they have may work but it didnt work with me. Also had a couple alts I messed around with while waiting for some high level content which again, they decided to forego with hopes of sucking in people with the F2P.
I'm sure there will be added content for the end gamers, however when moving over to a new system especially free to play, you gotta think a lot of new members are gonna be jumping on board. Gotta make sure they stay. But I can see the concern of no new content for end game.
I feel as long as books come out regularly then we should be ok.
Other people are having the same issues in therir game of choice, look at me. I can't go back and play WoW now because I have an 80 that I've had for a while now and the content is all the same crap that has been there for so long.
I guess for you, for now, it is just time to get into another game, check back when some more content comes out
Im playing WOW now, have been for sometime. I left lotro about two weeks after the F2P announcement, was going to go to EQ2 then they hit us with their version of F2P so I forgot that idea. I had been playing lotro and eq2 off and on switching back and forth for a few years. WOW is a good game ive got friends there and enjoy it so im good. New stuff on the horizon as well as the Cata xpac for WOW.
That's where it counts, where you have friends, play there, if I had friends in WoW still I'm sure I would be playing also. All I had was a guild but I didnt know any of them in RL and didn't have a connection to any of them. In LotRO I have some people I know in RL that I play with so it makes all the difference.
If you play with people most games of this nature will be that much better.
You just admited you hardly have scratched the game's surface, you just said you have not even reached level cap, yet here you are defending lotro's end-game, which you have not even seen.
You just admited you hardly have scratched the game's surface, you just said you have not even reached level cap, yet here you are defending lotro's end-game, which you have not even seen.
Can you imagine how much weight your opinion has?
I have seen what it has to offer, and I have read up on it, and know people that have been there done that.
Most people dont need to get to level 80 in WoW to know thats all there is to 80, is raiding.
I have not been there personally and I don't entirely care how much weight my opinion has, they are only opinions after all.
Most people regardless if speaking with experineced people or not will only hear what they want. I am simply expressing what I want. Nothing more.
You don't like it fine no problem. I am not here to argue with people I simply state me feelings and then read others and carry out conversations.
You just admited you hardly have scratched the game's surface, you just said you have not even reached level cap, yet here you are defending lotro's end-game, which you have not even seen.
Can you imagine how much weight your opinion has?
I have seen what it has to offer, and I have read up on it, and know people that have been there done that.
Most people dont need to get to level 80 in WoW to know thats all there is to 80, is raiding.
I have not been there personally and I don't entirely care how much weight my opinion has, they are only opinions after all.
Most people regardless if speaking with experineced people or not will only hear what they want. I am simply expressing what I want. Nothing more.
You don't like it fine no problem. I am not here to argue with people I simply state me feelings and then read others and carry out conversations.
It's not that I like your opinion or not. It´s that you are talking about something you just don't know. Simple as. This is why your opinion has little weight here. Sorry, but I don't see much sense in defending something you don't even know for yourself. Come back when you have been sitting on lvl 65 for a few weeks and then we talk. I bet your opinion will be quite different.
it is quite amusing to see the WoW fanspeople over here attacking LoTRO while singing the praises of a game that has a handful of raids they call a end game and has released. WoW has had only 2 expansions since it's release in 2004 and a third on the way.
You just admited you hardly have scratched the game's surface, you just said you have not even reached level cap, yet here you are defending lotro's end-game, which you have not even seen.
Can you imagine how much weight your opinion has?
I have seen what it has to offer, and I have read up on it, and know people that have been there done that.
Most people dont need to get to level 80 in WoW to know thats all there is to 80, is raiding.
I have not been there personally and I don't entirely care how much weight my opinion has, they are only opinions after all.
Most people regardless if speaking with experineced people or not will only hear what they want. I am simply expressing what I want. Nothing more.
You don't like it fine no problem. I am not here to argue with people I simply state me feelings and then read others and carry out conversations.
It's not that I like your opinion or not. It´s that you are talking about something you just don't know. Simple as. This is why your opinion has little weight here. Sorry, but I don't see much sense in defending something you don't even know for yourself. Come back when you have been sitting on lvl 65 for a few weeks and then we talk. I bet your opinion will be quite different.
Seriously... even if I was sitting at 65 for lets say a year, you wouldn't care for my opinion because it is against yours.
it is quite amusing to see the WoW fanspeople over here attacking LoTRO while singing the praises of a game that has a handful of raids they call a end game and has released. WoW has had only 2 expansions since it's release in 2004 and a third on the way.
Glad to see your still waving your pom poms. I have played a lot of mmo's including lotro for three years. Yeah, wow has released two xpacs and continues to comand a huge subscriber lead over any other game. Lotro on the other hand has released an xpac and a half and had to go F2P to survive. Do you really want to compare the talent at Blizzard with that at Turbine? You really should expand your horizons a bit. Lotro isnt the only mmo available and far from the best.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
it is quite amusing to see the WoW fanspeople over here attacking LoTRO while singing the praises of a game that has a handful of raids they call a end game and has released. WoW has had only 2 expansions since it's release in 2004 and a third on the way.
Glad to see your still waving your pom poms. I have played a lot of mmo's including lotro for three years. Yeah, wow has released two xpacs and continues to comand a huge subscriber lead over any other game. Lotro on the other hand has released an xpac and a half and had to go F2P to survive. Do you really want to compare the talent at Blizzard with that at Turbine? You really should expand your horizons a bit. Lotro isnt the only mmo available and far from the best.
Blizz is unmatchable hands down imho, but it doesn't mean that their game is going to be better for everyone. People have different tastes. In all honestly when people say they wanna play an MMO I usually tell them to play WoW, unless they are looking for something that is completely different then WoW.
it is quite amusing to see the WoW fanspeople over here attacking LoTRO while singing the praises of a game that has a handful of raids they call a end game and has released. WoW has had only 2 expansions since it's release in 2004 and a third on the way.
Glad to see your still waving your pom poms. I have played a lot of mmo's including lotro for three years. Yeah, wow has released two xpacs and continues to comand a huge subscriber lead over any other game. Lotro on the other hand has released an xpac and a half and had to go F2P to survive. Do you really want to compare the talent at Blizzard with that at Turbine? You really should expand your horizons a bit. Lotro isnt the only mmo available and far from the best.
Blizz is unmatchable hands down imho, but it doesn't mean that their game is going to be better for everyone. People have different tastes. In all honestly when people say they wanna play an MMO I usually tell them to play WoW, unless they are looking for something that is completely different then WoW.
Thats the thing. There isnt any better fantasy game than WOW. Lotro was the best of the clones and had a good run but the F2P move is pretty positive proof that a clone cannot compete with the original. As for the xpac nonsense, BC alone would hold all of the extras and one and a half xpacs Turbine has produced and have room for a good chunk of the base game. I do agree that no game is the game for everyone but comparing anything to the highly polished WOW at this point in time is rediculous at best.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Thats the thing. There isnt any better fantasy game than WOW.
I suppose for a game that has graphics designed to run grandma's Hewlett Packard with a Pentium 4 and a ATI Radeon 7200 , your idea of fresh content is a game that has expansions every two and a half years and your concept of end game is doing the same half dozen raids for years and years it is great LOL
I have played a lot of mmo's including lotro for three years
yeah sure you did., We all play games we despise for threeor four years then make a account overr here so we can make 700 posts on how much it sucks. Not doubting you, I just find that a interesting way of doing things.
Thats the thing. There isnt any better fantasy game than WOW.
I suppose for a game that has graphics designed to run grandma's Hewlett Packard with a Pentium 4 and a ATI Radeon 7200 , your idea of fresh content is a game that has expansions every two and a half years and your concept of end game is doing the same half dozen raids for years and years it is great LOL
lol, yeah the graphics are pretty sad from what i've seen. (i've never held a sub) The majority of my friends that played WoW for awhile went and tried the 10 day for lotro they used to have and never went back. The thing I hear the most when asking about WoW from them is "it's a kids game" lol. Is there a stat that shows the age groups of people playing WoW? From what I've heard I wouldn't doubt if the vast majority was under 18.
Thats the thing. There isnt any better fantasy game than WOW.
I suppose for a game that has graphics designed to run grandma's Hewlett Packard with a Pentium 4 and a ATI Radeon 7200 , your idea of fresh content is a game that has expansions every two and a half years and your concept of end game is doing the same half dozen raids for years and years it is great LOL
I would say that the fact that WoW can run on such a wide range of PCs is kind of a plus for the game. I have never felt the graphics were ugly, but thats just me, my aesthetic.
I do feel running the same raids over and over again gets really old, really fast. I wish it was half a dozen raids to run in that game, it would be much better. in all honesty though, its only like 1 raid, IceCrown, everything else is roflstomped now.
I would have to also say that hands now WoW is the most played, most popular, but it doesn't mean it is the best. Not to everyone at least.
I been playing LotrO since Closed Beta. Everytime I think I'm about to reach the end of the PVE , they add more content. In MPvP, I haven't even begun to grind for pvp gear, and I'm only rank 2 . Been playing since Closed Beta I have about 2 years of content to finish, in PVMP alone.
it is quite amusing to see the WoW fanspeople over here attacking LoTRO while singing the praises of a game that has a handful of raids they call a end game and has released. WoW has had only 2 expansions since it's release in 2004 and a third on the way.
Glad to see your still waving your pom poms. I have played a lot of mmo's including lotro for three years. Yeah, wow has released two xpacs and continues to comand a huge subscriber lead over any other game. Lotro on the other hand has released an xpac and a half and had to go F2P to survive. Do you really want to compare the talent at Blizzard with that at Turbine? You really should expand your horizons a bit. Lotro isnt the only mmo available and far from the best.
Honestly, this comparison between LOTRO and WoW is becoming tiring at best. WoW and LOTRO had certainly their pros and cons, but it is clear that they appeal to different audience. While LOTRO caters more to mature, casual players, WoW is directed more to an younger audience and people liking raiding and PvP. Both can coexist and focing the comparison between both games is really like comparing apples to oranges.
To each its own. I prefer LOTRO for a variety of reasons, which are entirely subjective and personal, ranging from the fact that I'm not interested in PvP, prefer to play in a mature environment and am not too much in multiple hours Raiding due to time restrictions.
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Since EQ2 went F2P im playing WOW. Both of which I stated had better endgame and content additions.
Edit. Now that you brought it up do you actually play lotro or just spam propaganda? Seems every lotro post has you cheerleading and defending the indefensible.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Man, several persons have answered you with a few examples, but you just refuse to read.
I already gave you an example of a game with more bosses in one single dungeon than lotro in the whole game. Go back and re-read.
I can't see them removing it either, if anything was done I think it would be nice if they made an alternative to it where running a crafted weapon or dungeon drop would be just as good. But right now a crafted or dungeon drop weapon is just for off-hand use. I doubt it will happen I enjoy the LI system its such a good idea and completely original. (another form of it might exist in another game but I'm unaware of it
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It seems like the arguments against end game stuff and for end game stuff are not matching up.
Those defending LotRO are saying that there is much more to do then get to level cap and raid dungeons killing bosses.
Those against LotRO are stating that there are much more bosses to kill and dungeons to raid at the level cap.
All in all, if what you want to do is race to level cap and do raids and kill bosses then LotRO isnt the game for you.
If you want to work up to level cap and do something other then just raid dungeons and kill bosses when you login. Then check out LotRO.
I have stated before I do not enjoy logging in just for a 2-5 hour raid of the same bosses I have fought time and time again. If cata brings up some more things to do at level cap I will be more then happy to go back, if it will still continue to just be the same crap I will not. I am not the raiding time, sure its fun but I want more then that. So I am finding satisfaction in LotRO. But that won't work for the next person.
I hear you man. I will only pre order if it gets me into a beta, and thats it, lol...
My thing isnt racing to level cap but Ive had a capped toon for over a year and its one I started with in 2007. Turbine chose to change the payment model and rework starter and midlevel regions instead of taking care of the player base that had supported them since launch. Trying to get more without taking care of what they have may work but it didnt work with me. Also had a couple alts I messed around with while waiting for some high level content which again, they decided to forego with hopes of sucking in people with the F2P.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
I'm sure there will be added content for the end gamers, however when moving over to a new system especially free to play, you gotta think a lot of new members are gonna be jumping on board. Gotta make sure they stay. But I can see the concern of no new content for end game.
I feel as long as books come out regularly then we should be ok.
Other people are having the same issues in therir game of choice, look at me. I can't go back and play WoW now because I have an 80 that I've had for a while now and the content is all the same crap that has been there for so long.
I guess for you, for now, it is just time to get into another game, check back when some more content comes out
Im playing WOW now, have been for sometime. I left lotro about two weeks after the F2P announcement, was going to go to EQ2 then they hit us with their version of F2P so I forgot that idea. I had been playing lotro and eq2 off and on switching back and forth for a few years. WOW is a good game ive got friends there and enjoy it so im good. New stuff on the horizon as well as the Cata xpac for WOW.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
That's where it counts, where you have friends, play there, if I had friends in WoW still I'm sure I would be playing also. All I had was a guild but I didnt know any of them in RL and didn't have a connection to any of them. In LotRO I have some people I know in RL that I play with so it makes all the difference.
If you play with people most games of this nature will be that much better.
Xithryl:
You just admited you hardly have scratched the game's surface, you just said you have not even reached level cap, yet here you are defending lotro's end-game, which you have not even seen.
Can you imagine how much weight your opinion has?
I have seen what it has to offer, and I have read up on it, and know people that have been there done that.
Most people dont need to get to level 80 in WoW to know thats all there is to 80, is raiding.
I have not been there personally and I don't entirely care how much weight my opinion has, they are only opinions after all.
Most people regardless if speaking with experineced people or not will only hear what they want. I am simply expressing what I want. Nothing more.
You don't like it fine no problem. I am not here to argue with people I simply state me feelings and then read others and carry out conversations.
It's not that I like your opinion or not. It´s that you are talking about something you just don't know. Simple as. This is why your opinion has little weight here. Sorry, but I don't see much sense in defending something you don't even know for yourself. Come back when you have been sitting on lvl 65 for a few weeks and then we talk. I bet your opinion will be quite different.
it is quite amusing to see the WoW fanspeople over here attacking LoTRO while singing the praises of a game that has a handful of raids they call a end game and has released. WoW has had only 2 expansions since it's release in 2004 and a third on the way.
I miss DAoC
Seriously... even if I was sitting at 65 for lets say a year, you wouldn't care for my opinion because it is against yours.
That is all
Glad to see your still waving your pom poms. I have played a lot of mmo's including lotro for three years. Yeah, wow has released two xpacs and continues to comand a huge subscriber lead over any other game. Lotro on the other hand has released an xpac and a half and had to go F2P to survive. Do you really want to compare the talent at Blizzard with that at Turbine? You really should expand your horizons a bit. Lotro isnt the only mmo available and far from the best.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Blizz is unmatchable hands down imho, but it doesn't mean that their game is going to be better for everyone. People have different tastes. In all honestly when people say they wanna play an MMO I usually tell them to play WoW, unless they are looking for something that is completely different then WoW.
Thats the thing. There isnt any better fantasy game than WOW. Lotro was the best of the clones and had a good run but the F2P move is pretty positive proof that a clone cannot compete with the original. As for the xpac nonsense, BC alone would hold all of the extras and one and a half xpacs Turbine has produced and have room for a good chunk of the base game. I do agree that no game is the game for everyone but comparing anything to the highly polished WOW at this point in time is rediculous at best.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
I suppose for a game that has graphics designed to run grandma's Hewlett Packard with a Pentium 4 and a ATI Radeon 7200 , your idea of fresh content is a game that has expansions every two and a half years and your concept of end game is doing the same half dozen raids for years and years it is great LOL
I miss DAoC
yeah sure you did., We all play games we despise for threeor four years then make a account overr here so we can make 700 posts on how much it sucks. Not doubting you, I just find that a interesting way of doing things.
I miss DAoC
lol, yeah the graphics are pretty sad from what i've seen. (i've never held a sub) The majority of my friends that played WoW for awhile went and tried the 10 day for lotro they used to have and never went back. The thing I hear the most when asking about WoW from them is "it's a kids game" lol. Is there a stat that shows the age groups of people playing WoW? From what I've heard I wouldn't doubt if the vast majority was under 18.
I would say that the fact that WoW can run on such a wide range of PCs is kind of a plus for the game. I have never felt the graphics were ugly, but thats just me, my aesthetic.
I do feel running the same raids over and over again gets really old, really fast. I wish it was half a dozen raids to run in that game, it would be much better. in all honesty though, its only like 1 raid, IceCrown, everything else is roflstomped now.
I would have to also say that hands now WoW is the most played, most popular, but it doesn't mean it is the best. Not to everyone at least.
Wow, thats pretty crazy :O
Honestly, this comparison between LOTRO and WoW is becoming tiring at best. WoW and LOTRO had certainly their pros and cons, but it is clear that they appeal to different audience. While LOTRO caters more to mature, casual players, WoW is directed more to an younger audience and people liking raiding and PvP. Both can coexist and focing the comparison between both games is really like comparing apples to oranges.
To each its own. I prefer LOTRO for a variety of reasons, which are entirely subjective and personal, ranging from the fact that I'm not interested in PvP, prefer to play in a mature environment and am not too much in multiple hours Raiding due to time restrictions.