Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of what players think if as "sci-fi" is most likely fantasy.
Star Wars is not sci-fi, it's a fantasy.
Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. Fantasy
"Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
I-Robot (movie or book pick your poison) is science fiction, The Last Man on Earth (which others probably know as "I am Legend") is Science Fiction. Foundation Series is Science Fiction. West World and Logan's Run are Science Fiction.
John Carter of Mars is NOT science fiction.
So having said that, the lure of fantasy is strong because it allows for things that could never be as opposed to things that very well could be. Whether it takes place in space or in some sort of quasi-medieval world is something else.
There is a romanticism with fantasy whereas science fiction seems to be a bit colder, a bit more of a dash of possible reality.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of what players think if as "sci-fi" is most likely fantasy.
Star Wars is not sci-fi, it's a fantasy.
Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. Fantasy
"Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
I-Robot (movie or book pick your poison) is science fiction, The Last Man on Earth (which others probably know as "I am Legend") is Science Fiction. Foundation Series is Science Fiction. West World and Logan's Run are Science Fiction.
John Carter of Mars is NOT science fiction.
So having said that, the lure of fantasy is strong because it allows for things that could never be as opposed to things that very well could be. Whether it takes place in space or in some sort of quasi-medieval world is something else.
There is a romanticism with fantasy whereas science fiction seems to be a bit colder, a bit more of a dash of possible reality.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
Not sure what you are talking about so I'll put it this way,
John Carter of Mars, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers = "not sci fi"
I am Legend (last man on earth), I-Robot, foundation series, Logan's Run, West World = Sci-fi.
I'm not quite sure what sub-genre you are talking about?
oh, and this which I stated: "Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
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Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of what players think if as "sci-fi" is most likely fantasy.
Star Wars is not sci-fi, it's a fantasy.
Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. Fantasy
"Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
I-Robot (movie or book pick your poison) is science fiction, The Last Man on Earth (which others probably know as "I am Legend") is Science Fiction. Foundation Series is Science Fiction. West World and Logan's Run are Science Fiction.
John Carter of Mars is NOT science fiction.
So having said that, the lure of fantasy is strong because it allows for things that could never be as opposed to things that very well could be. Whether it takes place in space or in some sort of quasi-medieval world is something else.
There is a romanticism with fantasy whereas science fiction seems to be a bit colder, a bit more of a dash of possible reality.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
Not sure what you are talking about so I'll put it this way,
John Carter of Mars, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers = "not sci fi"
I am Legend (last man on earth), I-Robot, foundation series, Logan's Run, West World = Sci-fi.
I'm not quite sure what sub-genre you are talking about?
oh, and this which I stated: "Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
Your definition of the sci-fi genre is just that. YOUR definition of the sci-fi genre.
YOU are redefining it to suit what you preceive as sci-fi.
Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of what players think if as "sci-fi" is most likely fantasy.
Star Wars is not sci-fi, it's a fantasy.
Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. Fantasy
"Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
I-Robot (movie or book pick your poison) is science fiction, The Last Man on Earth (which others probably know as "I am Legend") is Science Fiction. Foundation Series is Science Fiction. West World and Logan's Run are Science Fiction.
John Carter of Mars is NOT science fiction.
So having said that, the lure of fantasy is strong because it allows for things that could never be as opposed to things that very well could be. Whether it takes place in space or in some sort of quasi-medieval world is something else.
There is a romanticism with fantasy whereas science fiction seems to be a bit colder, a bit more of a dash of possible reality.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
Not sure what you are talking about so I'll put it this way,
John Carter of Mars, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers = "not sci fi"
I am Legend (last man on earth), I-Robot, foundation series, Logan's Run, West World = Sci-fi.
I'm not quite sure what sub-genre you are talking about?
oh, and this which I stated: "Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
To YOU, Star Wars and Buck rogers are not sci fi. to many, many other people, they are sci-fi.
And you can decide that you want sci fi to be all about dealing with man's relationship blah blah blah
But that doesn't make it the case, it doesn't make it true and universally accepted.
Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of what players think if as "sci-fi" is most likely fantasy.
Star Wars is not sci-fi, it's a fantasy.
Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. Fantasy
"Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
I-Robot (movie or book pick your poison) is science fiction, The Last Man on Earth (which others probably know as "I am Legend") is Science Fiction. Foundation Series is Science Fiction. West World and Logan's Run are Science Fiction.
John Carter of Mars is NOT science fiction.
So having said that, the lure of fantasy is strong because it allows for things that could never be as opposed to things that very well could be. Whether it takes place in space or in some sort of quasi-medieval world is something else.
There is a romanticism with fantasy whereas science fiction seems to be a bit colder, a bit more of a dash of possible reality.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
Not sure what you are talking about so I'll put it this way,
John Carter of Mars, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers = "not sci fi"
I am Legend (last man on earth), I-Robot, foundation series, Logan's Run, West World = Sci-fi.
I'm not quite sure what sub-genre you are talking about?
oh, and this which I stated: "Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
What you state Sci-Fi is supposed to be is a subgenre of Sci-Fi... the items that you have excluded as Sci-Fi, are from other subgenres of Sci-Fi. You are using your definition of a type of Sci-Fi to define the genre as a whole to exclude other works from the genre. They are simply within different subgenres of Sci-Fi.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of what players think if as "sci-fi" is most likely fantasy.
Star Wars is not sci-fi, it's a fantasy.
Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, etc. Fantasy
"Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
I-Robot (movie or book pick your poison) is science fiction, The Last Man on Earth (which others probably know as "I am Legend") is Science Fiction. Foundation Series is Science Fiction. West World and Logan's Run are Science Fiction.
John Carter of Mars is NOT science fiction.
So having said that, the lure of fantasy is strong because it allows for things that could never be as opposed to things that very well could be. Whether it takes place in space or in some sort of quasi-medieval world is something else.
There is a romanticism with fantasy whereas science fiction seems to be a bit colder, a bit more of a dash of possible reality.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
Not sure what you are talking about so I'll put it this way,
John Carter of Mars, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers = "not sci fi"
I am Legend (last man on earth), I-Robot, foundation series, Logan's Run, West World = Sci-fi.
I'm not quite sure what sub-genre you are talking about?
oh, and this which I stated: "Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
To YOU, Star Wars and Buck rogers are not sci fi. to many, many other people, they are sci-fi.
And you can decide that you want sci fi to be all about dealing with man's relationship blah blah blah
But that doesn't make it the case, it doesn't make it true and universally accepted.
The FACT is, people interpret them differently.
Ok, now I'm clearer as to the objections, however these aren't "my" definitions, they are "the" definitions.
Science ficiton IS about man's relationship to science and what science brings.
Star Wars takes place in space but put it on land and give everyone actual swords and nothiing really changes.
West World or I-Robot is about man's relationship to technology.
I would then say that just because you and others want science fiction to be about something else doesn't mean that it's so subjective.
It's just not. Science Fiction has always been about man's relationship to technology. Where it takes place is immaterial.
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A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
It is possible to apply the creative imagination to different areas of this idea, for example:
the impact of imagined science
the imagined impact of actual science
imagined technology based upon actual science
imagined technology based upon imagined science
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined societies
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined individuals, etc., etc.
I could keep going, but your personal definition has nothing to do with what almost everyone considers science fiction.
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
I put in yellow what sums up what I've also said.
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ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
You said Star was is not science fiction. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars has a lot of science behind many of it's ideas. Read about it.
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
It is possible to apply the creative imagination to different areas of this idea, for example:
the impact of imagined science
the imagined impact of actual science
imagined technology based upon actual science
imagined technology based upon imagined science
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined societies
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined individuals, etc., etc.
I could keep going, but your personal definition has nothing to do with what almost everyone considers science fiction.
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
I put in yellow what sums up what I've also said.
no matter how many times you say it, it won't become true.
You h ave in your mind what you want sci-fi to be... and it's just not the case. Get over it.
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
It is possible to apply the creative imagination to different areas of this idea, for example:
the impact of imagined science
the imagined impact of actual science
imagined technology based upon actual science
imagined technology based upon imagined science
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined societies
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined individuals, etc., etc.
I could keep going, but your personal definition has nothing to do with what almost everyone considers science fiction.
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
I put in yellow what sums up what I've also said.
no matter how many times you say it, it won't become true.
You h ave in your mind what you want sci-fi to be... and it's just not the case. Get over it.
answer the question please.
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ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
You said Star was is not science fiction. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars has a lot of science behind many of it's ideas. Read about it.
It's almost as if it is both Sci-Fi and Fantasy AT THE SAME TIME! You might even say that both sci-fi and fantasy are just variants of the FICTION genre. Amazing concept... yet some people just can't grasp it.
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
It is possible to apply the creative imagination to different areas of this idea, for example:
the impact of imagined science
the imagined impact of actual science
imagined technology based upon actual science
imagined technology based upon imagined science
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined societies
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined individuals, etc., etc.
I could keep going, but your personal definition has nothing to do with what almost everyone considers science fiction.
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
What your saying by your defintion "Science ficiton IS about man's relationship to science and what science brings." is a lot mor enarrow than the defintions quoted by others and yourself from different sources.Star Wars does indeed qualify as SciFi under those criteria as it does dela with imagined innovations in science such as space travle adn evne light sabers(whixh are actually scientifically viable using plasma but we don't have the technology to make a powerful enough and small enough power source for) nowhere does it say that technology or man's relationship to it has to be the central premise for the plot.
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
You said Star was is not science fiction. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars has a lot of science behind many of it's ideas. Read about it.
Yes that is true, it's not about the "impatc of imagined innovations in science or technology".
It's about man's relationships to each other, goverment and probably religion and belief systems.
Regardless of it having the ideas of science since there are space ships and lasers, they are irrelevant to the story.
Again, take the story themes and characters and put it in some sort of dark ages and you have to change very little as far as the themes of the story.
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ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
You said Star was is not science fiction. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars has a lot of science behind many of it's ideas. Read about it.
Yes that is true, it's not about the "impatc of imagined innovations in science or technology".
It's about man's relationships to each other, goverment and probably religion and belief systems.
Regardless of it having the ideas of science since there are space ships and lasers, they are irrelevant to the story.
Again, take the story themes and characters and put it in some sort of dark ages and you have to change very little as far as the themes of the story.
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
It is possible to apply the creative imagination to different areas of this idea, for example:
the impact of imagined science
the imagined impact of actual science
imagined technology based upon actual science
imagined technology based upon imagined science
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined societies
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined individuals, etc., etc.
I could keep going, but your personal definition has nothing to do with what almost everyone considers science fiction.
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
What your saying by your defintion "Science ficiton IS about man's relationship to science and what science brings." is a lot mor enarrow than the defintions quoted by others and yourself from different sources.Star Wars does indeed qualify as SciFi under those criteria as it does dela with imagined innovations in science such as space travle adn evne light sabers(whixh are actually scientifically viable using plasma but we don't have the technology to make a powerful enough and small enough power source for) nowhere does it say that technology or man's relationship to it has to be the central premise for the plot.
Ok, but listen to what I'm saying "star wars is not about lasers or space travel".
It's not "about" that.
It "has" that but it's not "about" that. And that is where the difference is.
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ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
You said Star was is not science fiction. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars has a lot of science behind many of it's ideas. Read about it.
Yes that is true, it's not about the "impatc of imagined innovations in science or technology".
It's about man's relationships to each other, goverment and probably religion and belief systems.
Regardless of it having the ideas of science since there are space ships and lasers, they are irrelevant to the story.
Again, take the story themes and characters and put it in some sort of dark ages and you have to change very little as far as the themes of the story.
But it's still sci fi
Don't make me pinch you.
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Well, if Avatar and Star Wars are Sci-fi... then you're completely wrong.
You cannot offer up a favored subgenre of Sci-Fi as the definition of Sci-Fi so as to exclude the other subgenres. It does not work that way.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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Agreed and I think that statement is simply wrong, in general fantasy movies seem to do much worse than sci fi films. Atleast from where I see it.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Sorry but I didn't say Sci-Fi can not be succesfull, if I did your reply could make me wrong.
I still stand with what I said or let me put it differently: Other genre's have proven to be more populair then the Sci Fi genre.
Oh yeah, signed by a Sci Fi fan myself.
Not sure what you are talking about so I'll put it this way,
John Carter of Mars, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers = "not sci fi"
I am Legend (last man on earth), I-Robot, foundation series, Logan's Run, West World = Sci-fi.
I'm not quite sure what sub-genre you are talking about?
oh, and this which I stated: "Sci-Fi" is supposed to deal with man's relationship with technology and how it effects them. Or man's relationship with technology or space and the possibility of what that brings.
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There is what, one "Sci-Fi" movie in the top ten box office list? There are eight "Fantasy"...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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Your definition of the sci-fi genre is just that. YOUR definition of the sci-fi genre.
YOU are redefining it to suit what you preceive as sci-fi.
To YOU, Star Wars and Buck rogers are not sci fi. to many, many other people, they are sci-fi.
And you can decide that you want sci fi to be all about dealing with man's relationship blah blah blah
But that doesn't make it the case, it doesn't make it true and universally accepted.
The FACT is, people interpret them differently.
What you state Sci-Fi is supposed to be is a subgenre of Sci-Fi... the items that you have excluded as Sci-Fi, are from other subgenres of Sci-Fi. You are using your definition of a type of Sci-Fi to define the genre as a whole to exclude other works from the genre. They are simply within different subgenres of Sci-Fi.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Ok, now I'm clearer as to the objections, however these aren't "my" definitions, they are "the" definitions.
Science ficiton IS about man's relationship to science and what science brings.
Star Wars takes place in space but put it on land and give everyone actual swords and nothiing really changes.
West World or I-Robot is about man's relationship to technology.
I would then say that just because you and others want science fiction to be about something else doesn't mean that it's so subjective.
It's just not. Science Fiction has always been about man's relationship to technology. Where it takes place is immaterial.
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1
Gone with the Wind
MGM
$1,606,254,800
$198,676,459
1939^
2
Star Wars
Fox
$1,416,050,800
$460,998,007
1977^
3
The Sound of Music
Fox
$1,132,202,200
$158,671,368
1965
4
E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
Uni.
$1,127,742,000
$435,110,554
1982^
5
The Ten Commandments
Par.
$1,041,450,000
$65,500,000
1956
6
Titanic
Par.
$1,020,349,800
$600,788,188
1997
7
Jaws
Uni.
$1,018,226,600
$260,000,000
1975
8
Doctor Zhivago
MGM
$986,876,900
$111,721,910
1965
9
The Exorcist
WB
$879,020,900
$232,671,011
1973^
10
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Dis.
$866,550,000
$184,925,486
1937^
Top 10 movies, adjusted for inflation... Star Wars and ET for Sci Fi.... and Fantasy gets Snow White
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction
http://www.answers.com/topic/science-fiction
A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Science_fiction
It is possible to apply the creative imagination to different areas of this idea, for example:
the impact of imagined science
the imagined impact of actual science
imagined technology based upon actual science
imagined technology based upon imagined science
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined societies
the impact of science and technology, or both, upon imagined individuals, etc., etc.
I could keep going, but your personal definition has nothing to do with what almost everyone considers science fiction.
"Science fiction consists of improbable possibilities, fantasy of plausible impossibilities."
Check this out http://www.treitel.org/Richard/sf/sf.html
ok so what is different from this than what I've said:
Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with the impact of imagined innovations in science or technology, often in a futuristic setting.[1][2][3] It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature
with the exception that Star Wars is not science fiction, it's probably closer to "science fantasy".
I put in yellow what sums up what I've also said.
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You said Star was is not science fiction. Star Wars is science fiction. Star Wars has a lot of science behind many of it's ideas. Read about it.
no matter how many times you say it, it won't become true.
You h ave in your mind what you want sci-fi to be... and it's just not the case. Get over it.
answer the question please.
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It's almost as if it is both Sci-Fi and Fantasy AT THE SAME TIME! You might even say that both sci-fi and fantasy are just variants of the FICTION genre. Amazing concept... yet some people just can't grasp it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ShFb-I5rE
What your saying by your defintion "Science ficiton IS about man's relationship to science and what science brings." is a lot mor enarrow than the defintions quoted by others and yourself from different sources.Star Wars does indeed qualify as SciFi under those criteria as it does dela with imagined innovations in science such as space travle adn evne light sabers(whixh are actually scientifically viable using plasma but we don't have the technology to make a powerful enough and small enough power source for) nowhere does it say that technology or man's relationship to it has to be the central premise for the plot.
Yes that is true, it's not about the "impatc of imagined innovations in science or technology".
It's about man's relationships to each other, goverment and probably religion and belief systems.
Regardless of it having the ideas of science since there are space ships and lasers, they are irrelevant to the story.
Again, take the story themes and characters and put it in some sort of dark ages and you have to change very little as far as the themes of the story.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
But it's still sci fi
Ok, but listen to what I'm saying "star wars is not about lasers or space travel".
It's not "about" that.
It "has" that but it's not "about" that. And that is where the difference is.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Don't make me pinch you.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
That is domestic. Not worldwide.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%