Not that I think it would flop, but I'd probably just go back to playing the game I'm playing now, until I'm bored to pieces with it. It wouldn't be the end of the World, I'm sure I'd survive just nicely without MMO's. My wife would probably even praise ANet for failing. :P
Waiting for Guild Wars 2, and maybe SWTOR until that time...
If it flops... I will dance to turtles on cocaine. Will be truly disapoint if it fails because it's shaping up to possibily be THE best non subscription mmo to hit the market.
Didn't the devs say there will be an item mall to this game? If so, your point is moot. Proven fact, that the typical "subscriber" to an item mall game spends far more in an item mall each month than $15 a month one would spend on a typical subscription game. Notice I said typical... not YOU, so please don't come back as if I did.
Yeah they may make a great deal of revenue on the item mall, or not. I don't think ArenaNet would make overpower pay to win items. Still, item malls are optional. It is a payment method, but not a subscription.
I wouldn't put it together with competely free games. But more or less between subscription models, and completely free to plays. It's a model that's been getting more popular the last couple years.
If it flops... I will dance to turtles on cocaine. Will be truly disapoint if it fails because it's shaping up to possibily be THE best non subscription mmo to hit the market.
Didn't the devs say there will be an item mall to this game? If so, your point is moot. Proven fact, that the typical "subscriber" to an item mall game spends far more in an item mall each month than $15 a month one would spend on a typical subscription game. Notice I said typical... not YOU, so please don't come back as if I did.
Yeah they may make a great deal of revenue on the item mall, or not. I don't think ArenaNet would make overpower pay to win items. Still, item malls are optional. It is a payment method, but not a subscription.
I wouldn't put it together with competely free games. But more or less between subscription models, and completely free to plays. It's a model that's been getting more popular the last couple years.
yeah...they won't be selling stuff that overpowers players or anything like that...they also won't be doing things that other F2P games do...like sell classes...
GW2 is a B2P game which means that you pay for, along with an account, the whole game to play. What this means is that Anet gets money without blocking most of the content of the game that should be playable for anyone who is playing, and players don't have to worry about getting screwed by an item mall type game (because that isn't what GW or GW2 is). They also don't have to worry about a sub fee, and that is a BIG draw for a lot of people.
As for what IS sold in GW in game store, such as costumes, they are very popular...I think this is because of how they have introduced this content, as accessories to free playable content expansions or for various festivities. who doesn't like to party wearing a cool costume that fits the mood of the holiday...like halloween? Who here didn't want to show their support for the Shining blade or ...the white mantle...?
anyways. Anet is smart about how they present things, and it is the players that decide what they want to buy. If they show the community the kind of respect that they have in the past, GW2 will do fine. If a meteor smashed into the Anet offices and the game was finished by some hacks...who only care about the money...it is quite likely the result would be a different, less fun, crap game.*
*the game as we have seen it is in NO way crap. I am trying to say it would be changed to suit the whining masses that support whatever developer that would come in and finish making the game.
Long story short. Anet is the best. Period. They deserve our support.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
GW2 won't be a flop for ArenaNet, since they make the most money of boxsales. Due to the extreme hype the game is receiving the boxsales will most likely be very high. Meaning the game won't be a gigantic flop for the developers. Players might decide later that the game wasn't the new eden they got promised and move on, but ArenaNet will have their big pile of money already.
I believe the OP is talking about from a MMORPG community point of view. Not the company.
Warhammer for example was a ajor flop for the MMORPG community, yet it still running
GW has been empty of players for years til they announced gw2 then people showed back up to play, for some reason.
GW2 will be fine, and in a year or two it will be as empty a world as the first game was. GW1 was not a very good game in my opinion.
What? I ran through all the campaigns just over two years back, even before the Races of Tyria video, and the American servers were absolutely stocked with players. It was quite crowded. So much so that I felt the needed to run for the less crowded International servers, only joining the American region when I wanted to group up for something.
So I guess you play on the International servers and never checked the American ones, eh? That's all I can really take away from your comment. Either that or a flat out lie, but I'm just going to give you the benefit of the doubt, here. I don't know why I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt though since you combined something that looks like a bald faced lie with the motivation of 'eh, I didn't think Guild Wars 1 was a good game anyway.'
If I were a more cynical person, I'd call you out on that.
Personally, I would care less if it flopped. It looks like it could be a fun game; but, any rational gamer out there usually has their eyes on more than one piece of eye candy in the works. I'm waiting on at least 6 different games right now, only 2 of them are MMOs. So if two of those flop, I still have 4 others to fall back on and at least 3 of those are a garanteed success; because their developers have yet to produce anything that's less than brilliant in the last decade.
Word of advice, always keep your options open. If you continue to invest emotionally into one game after another, you might end up needing anti-psychotics for the rest of your life.
Admittedly, the little devil on my shoulder wants TOR and GW2 to flop. But the gamer in me wants to enjoy both so I guess Id be indifferent if it flopped.
You like the suffering of others so much you'd even be willing to have inferior games to get it?
My personal hope is that all the upcoming MMOs are =twice= as awesome as advertised, and that the fanboys are shocked and confused by how much =better= the games are than they expected.
I want gaming to be so good that even as people play it, they keep slapping ourselves, wiping drool off the keyboard as they gasp out in incredulous voices "I can't believe I'm having so much fun with my clothes on!"
... then I want the NEXT generation of games to be all 'Oh no you didn't, we'll have to be TEN times better than that, just to show you we can be even better!". THen they're 20 times better, just because.
(Side note. Do not confuse my hopes and desires with my expectations)
^This^ But I'll add PS2, EQ:N, TSW, AA, and anything else coming up within the next few years.
As I said in another thread, if GW2 is a success you'll never know it by reaction on forums. Success or not forum opinion will look the same. As those enjoying it will be a few less voices in the sea that is forums.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'll be sad, and go back to playing Torchlight 2 / Terraria / X2. MMO's are becoming less and less different from one another and the genre is in desperate need of a evolution. If this fails, then I hope something else comes up and takes the genre further.
Though sadly enough Torchlight brought more fun and good times than recent mmos have. Either that or I guess the treadmill has finally lost it's appeal.
But I will be greatly shocked if Arenanet delivers a dud.
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Not that I think it would flop, but I'd probably just go back to playing the game I'm playing now, until I'm bored to pieces with it. It wouldn't be the end of the World, I'm sure I'd survive just nicely without MMO's. My wife would probably even praise ANet for failing. :P
Waiting for Guild Wars 2, and maybe SWTOR until that time...
Yeah they may make a great deal of revenue on the item mall, or not. I don't think ArenaNet would make overpower pay to win items. Still, item malls are optional. It is a payment method, but not a subscription.
I wouldn't put it together with competely free games. But more or less between subscription models, and completely free to plays. It's a model that's been getting more popular the last couple years.
yeah...they won't be selling stuff that overpowers players or anything like that...they also won't be doing things that other F2P games do...like sell classes...
GW2 is a B2P game which means that you pay for, along with an account, the whole game to play. What this means is that Anet gets money without blocking most of the content of the game that should be playable for anyone who is playing, and players don't have to worry about getting screwed by an item mall type game (because that isn't what GW or GW2 is). They also don't have to worry about a sub fee, and that is a BIG draw for a lot of people.
As for what IS sold in GW in game store, such as costumes, they are very popular...I think this is because of how they have introduced this content, as accessories to free playable content expansions or for various festivities. who doesn't like to party wearing a cool costume that fits the mood of the holiday...like halloween? Who here didn't want to show their support for the Shining blade or ...the white mantle...?
anyways. Anet is smart about how they present things, and it is the players that decide what they want to buy. If they show the community the kind of respect that they have in the past, GW2 will do fine. If a meteor smashed into the Anet offices and the game was finished by some hacks...who only care about the money...it is quite likely the result would be a different, less fun, crap game.*
*the game as we have seen it is in NO way crap. I am trying to say it would be changed to suit the whining masses that support whatever developer that would come in and finish making the game.
Long story short. Anet is the best. Period. They deserve our support.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
I believe the OP is talking about from a MMORPG community point of view. Not the company.
Warhammer for example was a ajor flop for the MMORPG community, yet it still running
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
What would happen if the world ended?
GW has been empty of players for years til they announced gw2 then people showed back up to play, for some reason.
GW2 will be fine, and in a year or two it will be as empty a world as the first game was. GW1 was not a very good game in my opinion.
The same result as when pink elephants starts flying.
Why worry about things that you can't control?
If you want the game to succeed, support the game, if you don't, don't support it, simple as that.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
i dont think a B2P would flop that badly to scream bloody murder. I'm def playing once it hits shelves, enjoy it, who cares if others dont play :P
Then Arenanet would have to make a better expansion or update it to make it better.
ArenaNet went B2P so that they would be forced to make the game fun or else die.
What? I ran through all the campaigns just over two years back, even before the Races of Tyria video, and the American servers were absolutely stocked with players. It was quite crowded. So much so that I felt the needed to run for the less crowded International servers, only joining the American region when I wanted to group up for something.
So I guess you play on the International servers and never checked the American ones, eh? That's all I can really take away from your comment. Either that or a flat out lie, but I'm just going to give you the benefit of the doubt, here. I don't know why I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt though since you combined something that looks like a bald faced lie with the motivation of 'eh, I didn't think Guild Wars 1 was a good game anyway.'
If I were a more cynical person, I'd call you out on that.
The end of the world.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Nothing will happen.
Were to flop; and the same thing would happen if it succeeds.
We'll all play it a little and then come here to yammer about the next big thing.
The King declares it so.
Nothing
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Personally, I would care less if it flopped. It looks like it could be a fun game; but, any rational gamer out there usually has their eyes on more than one piece of eye candy in the works. I'm waiting on at least 6 different games right now, only 2 of them are MMOs. So if two of those flop, I still have 4 others to fall back on and at least 3 of those are a garanteed success; because their developers have yet to produce anything that's less than brilliant in the last decade.
Word of advice, always keep your options open. If you continue to invest emotionally into one game after another, you might end up needing anti-psychotics for the rest of your life.
^This^ But I'll add PS2, EQ:N, TSW, AA, and anything else coming up within the next few years.
As I said in another thread, if GW2 is a success you'll never know it by reaction on forums. Success or not forum opinion will look the same. As those enjoying it will be a few less voices in the sea that is forums.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'll be sad, and go back to playing Torchlight 2 / Terraria / X2. MMO's are becoming less and less different from one another and the genre is in desperate need of a evolution. If this fails, then I hope something else comes up and takes the genre further.
Though sadly enough Torchlight brought more fun and good times than recent mmos have. Either that or I guess the treadmill has finally lost it's appeal.
But I will be greatly shocked if Arenanet delivers a dud.