The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
I was surprised at how much the ce edition cost. I do think if you are the ultimate fan however or really like the game or star wars in general then the price is worth it. Myself I dont plan on playing the game any more at least not right now so for me it wouldnt be worth it, although i would like the music.
People blasting other people because they bought this is just sad however, hey its their money let them spend it however they want. I have never figured out why people are hating on this game so bad other than most people know this is gonna be the big boy on the block for a long time so its time for the wow haters to switch to swtor haters but hating on someone for purchasing a collectors edition, I dont think I ever saw that with wow, this might be a new level of low for the haters.
I agree, you have an option here. I would like to buy the CE but i do find it expensive so ill just buy the Deluxe edition without complaining. What i do not like is the extra 5$ to pre-order from Origin.
It shouldn't really come out to being $5 "extra".
If you do a pre-order through origin the total price is the same as else where. The $5 or $20 pre-order fee is part of the total.
So if you bought as example a CE from gamestop you pay 149.99... Origin you pay $129.99 for the CE and the $20 is listed as a "pre order download" but the total is the same. It works the same way for the standard edition. Its a bit odd regardless.
I don't think there is a Deluxe edition available anywhere else so I can't really say on that one.
I feel like its was worth it. That being said I am an adult with a job so a buck 50 was worth it to me. I will probably put the statue on craigslist but I like all the goodies and am awaiting to see whats in the CE shop. The fact that so many are upset over it makes me wish I would have gotten a few more copies to give as gifts to fans I know.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. -Robert E. Howard
I've been watching this back and forth for a little bit, and, while at first entertaining, you've turned into a total douche over the course. Your "jokes" aren't funny, they're just poorly disguised insults. Have some class, man...
I got the CE and am happy with doing so. It's Star Wars and really the only CE I'd spend $150 on. Monthly is going to be the same as every other MMO. $14.99 for US and a bit more for EU due to VAT.
Originally posted by KyBo On the other hand, if you dump some Chicken McNuggets in the CE box when it arrives, you'll have the world's awesomest and most expensive Happy Meal.
LOL
Originally posted by daydreamerxx 200 + hours of UNIQUE game play per ADVANCED CLASS!
The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
Throw it up on ebay with the rest of the 10 thousands of ppl that bought the CE lets see how fast it sells right?
Everyone is thinking the same thing man, you will have trouble selling that doll.
Who cares what the statue is valued at, we just wanted a freaking game , not a 60 dollar statue.
The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
Throw it up on ebay with the rest of the 10 thousands of ppl that bought the CE lets see how fast it sells right?
Everyone is thinking the same thing man, you will have trouble selling that doll.
Who cares what the statue is valued at, we just wanted a freaking game , not a 60 dollar statue.
If you think that and that the ingame items you get will "help you progress" (more than at low levels) then I think you will be very dissapointed with a CE purchase. Maybe you should downgrade.
The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
Throw it up on ebay with the rest of the 10 thousands of ppl that bought the CE lets see how fast it sells right?
Everyone is thinking the same thing man, you will have trouble selling that doll.
Who cares what the statue is valued at, we just wanted a freaking game , not a 60 dollar statue.
That's why it was part of a COLLECTOR'S EDITION. Only the hardcore were ever going to buy it.
You clearly weren't the target for it, but that doesn't make Bioware evil for offering it to those fans who were willing to pay for it.
The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
Throw it up on ebay with the rest of the 10 thousands of ppl that bought the CE lets see how fast it sells right?
Everyone is thinking the same thing man, you will have trouble selling that doll.
Who cares what the statue is valued at, we just wanted a freaking game , not a 60 dollar statue.
Ok for the 4th time. CE is not the only edition, there is delux and standard too. CE was supposed to be for the most die hard fans and it served its purpose when it was sold out in few hours. You can still get the game without the statue, and no the in game store is not MUST have. I don't know from where you got that.
I was looking forward to this game but then when I seen that hefty 150 dollar price tag for the CE , which is a must have in this game because of a certain vendor item, I became infuriated. I know the game is gonna be new but don't expect miracles , because this will not deliver.
Best bet is to buy the standard edition and then play this for awhile and wait for gw2 to come out. At least that will be b2p and not some 150 dollar money grab with a sub fee attached. From a company who's ego must be so inflated that they think 150 is a fair price for a CE for an MMO, when has that ever been the case for any other MMO before this one?
If you condone this 150 dollar price tag, believe me we can all see this sort of thing become the standard.
Your thoughts?
Yes, it can be considered a $150 money-grab. I'd just like to thank Bioware for potentially demonstrating how completely out-of-touch they just might be, with this first community-delivered rediculous pricing model of TOR.
I hope this absurdity doesn't translate into rediculously out of touch they might be when it comes to actual massively-multiplayer game-play content and mechanics.
Ok for the 4th time. CE is not the only edition, there is delux and standard too. CE was supposed to be for the most die hard fans and it served its purpose when it was sold out in few hours. You can still get the game without the statue, and no the in game store is not MUST have. I don't know from where you got that.
It is a must have when it "helps you to progress in level" that means that you are at a disadvantage if you don't buy the CE... Which is not sold out people, believe me they want that 150 dollars there will be more of those things if they aren't still floating around.
The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
Throw it up on ebay with the rest of the 10 thousands of ppl that bought the CE lets see how fast it sells right?
Everyone is thinking the same thing man, you will have trouble selling that doll.
Who cares what the statue is valued at, we just wanted a freaking game , not a 60 dollar statue.
That's why it was part of a COLLECTOR'S EDITION. Only the hardcore were ever going to buy it.
You clearly weren't the target for it, but that doesn't make Bioware evil for offering it to those fans who were willing to pay for it.
Clearly wasn't the target for it? i am the exact target. A die hard fan that was bamboozled into buying some statue from a failed company known as Gentle Giant..... I am just more vocal about it, because I want the game I want the CE I don't want the statue..
Wander if Gentle Giant would be willing to take it back. Yea, I am one of those fans that will pay 150 dollars if I have to, but reluctantly do so.
Ok for the 4th time. CE is not the only edition, there is delux and standard too. CE was supposed to be for the most die hard fans and it served its purpose when it was sold out in few hours. You can still get the game without the statue, and no the in game store is not MUST have. I don't know from where you got that.
It is a must have when it "helps you to progress in level" that means that you are at a disadvantage if you don't buy the CE... Which is not sold out people, believe me they want that 150 dollars there will be more of those things if they aren't still floating around.
I"m guessing this is where your getting it from
Collector’s Edition Store: Unique in-game store with a dynamic array of items to assist you from your humble beginnings through your journey to become a galactic legend.
Not sure that means it will help you level or anything. Maybe reading too much into it?
They stated yesteday: You'll have different looking gear from others but no stat advantage, and a lot of purely cosmetic items. If it'll be updated periodically remains to be seen.
Update for sung: found the quote from SR (thats stephen reid)
7:30p: Q: Plans for vanity armor that overwrites the equiped one? JO: We debated that, but we're not doing that. If you want to look great you'll have to make scarifies in combat strength. SR: All of the items you get from the vendor will be primarily cosmetic items like a vip location that you will be able to purchase with credits.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
With the world being in a financial meltdown EA won't be getting the subs they would in a time of plenty. WoW in comparison was started at a time of international monetary stability so it is not the same as then, especially for something as pricey as the CE. EA's main customers are going to be the 'oh big thing don't care what it is, must buy, yoink' kind of customer but in struggling countries that type of shopper simply won't exist.
Ok for the 4th time. CE is not the only edition, there is delux and standard too. CE was supposed to be for the most die hard fans and it served its purpose when it was sold out in few hours. You can still get the game without the statue, and no the in game store is not MUST have. I don't know from where you got that.
It is a must have when it "helps you to progress in level" that means that you are at a disadvantage if you don't buy the CE... Which is not sold out people, believe me they want that 150 dollars there will be more of those things if they aren't still floating around.
I am sorry but no. Your point contradicts everything that we know leveling and progression in the game. So .. no you are wrong. None of us will be able to change your mind so whatever. I hope your feelings on the issue will change once you start playing the game.
Clearly wasn't the target for it? i am the exact target. A die hard fan that was bamboozled into buying some statue from a failed company known as Gentle Giant..... I am just more vocal about it, because I want the game I want the CE I don't want the statue..
So take the statue out of the box, put it somewhere safe, then sell it on eBay after a year. Big deal.
BTW, they're hardly a failed company just because you don't know who they are:
Some people just don't understand that there are fans and there are fanatics. Some love Star Wars so much, they would buy a cearal box for $150 if they released it today. Let them be, this is nothing new. It's like some people here are so outraged at the concept of special or collector editions. This isn't the first time a CE has been released. lol
The biggest culprit here is the statue, though without the statue and the in-game items it would be a pretty lame Collector's Edition.
I personally value the statue around $40. Sure it's a collector's piece, but we have to keep in mind a couple things here:
1. It's not a Star Wars character from the movies, so it's not going to be as desired by the fan base.
2. There are probably somewhere between 10,000 and 100,000 Collector's Editions. I'm pretty certain there are at least 10,000 CEs. That means the item really isn't that "rare".
3. Lots of other people plan on selling their statues on e-bay and there likely isn't a need in the market for them especially since it's going to be saturated with people trying to sell their statues.
Comparing the price to other items from the retailer is silly too. You are not the retailer. You are not selling the item directly. They probably even sold more of these bundling it with the collector's edition than any of the items on their site too (I'm not sure how popular that site is for collectibles). Putting the Star Wars name on it immediately increases the item's value (probably doubles) than the collectible would have had if it had the same design/materials and Star Wars didn't exist.
Thinking of it as an investment may be silly too. It will take decades to appreciate in value to be considered an investment. Some Collector's Editions are good investments due to their rarity, but it doesn't seem like this CE to have the value appreciate quickly. You'd be required to keep the statue in mint condition too for the investment portion to take hold.
If you are a fan all of this doesn't matter to you. That's what EA (and many other companies) are banking on. Fanboys are willing to pay more for something just because it has the brand name on it. Most people do it with one thing or another whether it's food products, clothing, or collectibles. Those of us who aren't fans will find it ridiculous, but I don't think it will matter. It's a shame most of us fall prey to this because we are true fans of whatever product, but it's the nature of things. Still, don't kid yourself thinking you'll get your money back on the statue reselling it. Only buy the CE edition if you really want the statue.
Look at other collector's editions too: http://www.collectorsedition.org. You'll see that most offer a bit better values, for instance the Batman one has a similar statue and better physical items (in my opinion), but only costs $100.
And it's one that clearly worked, considering the fact that the CE sold out everywhere in a matter of hours.
Of course it worked, most money grabs do.
That's the beauty of capitalism. A company can offer diehard fans a Collector's Edition of their game, including a statue from a well-known company and some virtual goods, price it at $150, and people will pay for it because they feel it's justified.
And it's one that clearly worked, considering the fact that the CE sold out everywhere in a matter of hours.
Of course it worked, most money grabs do.
I think the term money grab is a little silly. They did throw all that together for a higher price, sure, but lets face it, you could just as easily call the deluxe a money grab, or the standard edition a money grab with a 60 dollar price tag.
COULD they have made a collectors edition cheaper? Sure they could have, in fact, thats pretty much what the deluxe is. I see this particular CE being geared very closely towards those that have read all the books, kept up with the comics, most likely know more about the statue than most pepople just looking forward to the game, even for the star wars aspect.
Money grab? I don't see it being any more of a money grab then any other releases honestly.
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The statue in the CE edition is at least valued at $60 and will be in limted supply. Throw it up on ebay and make most of your CE money back if you don't want to keep it. Though it does not matter now as the CE edition is reported to be sold out already.
I was surprised at how much the ce edition cost. I do think if you are the ultimate fan however or really like the game or star wars in general then the price is worth it. Myself I dont plan on playing the game any more at least not right now so for me it wouldnt be worth it, although i would like the music.
People blasting other people because they bought this is just sad however, hey its their money let them spend it however they want. I have never figured out why people are hating on this game so bad other than most people know this is gonna be the big boy on the block for a long time so its time for the wow haters to switch to swtor haters but hating on someone for purchasing a collectors edition, I dont think I ever saw that with wow, this might be a new level of low for the haters.
It shouldn't really come out to being $5 "extra".
If you do a pre-order through origin the total price is the same as else where. The $5 or $20 pre-order fee is part of the total.
So if you bought as example a CE from gamestop you pay 149.99... Origin you pay $129.99 for the CE and the $20 is listed as a "pre order download" but the total is the same. It works the same way for the standard edition. Its a bit odd regardless.
I don't think there is a Deluxe edition available anywhere else so I can't really say on that one.
I feel like its was worth it. That being said I am an adult with a job so a buck 50 was worth it to me. I will probably put the statue on craigslist but I like all the goodies and am awaiting to see whats in the CE shop. The fact that so many are upset over it makes me wish I would have gotten a few more copies to give as gifts to fans I know.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can
be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
-Robert E. Howard
I've been watching this back and forth for a little bit, and, while at first entertaining, you've turned into a total douche over the course. Your "jokes" aren't funny, they're just poorly disguised insults. Have some class, man...
I got the CE and am happy with doing so. It's Star Wars and really the only CE I'd spend $150 on. Monthly is going to be the same as every other MMO. $14.99 for US and a bit more for EU due to VAT.
Throw it up on ebay with the rest of the 10 thousands of ppl that bought the CE lets see how fast it sells right?
Everyone is thinking the same thing man, you will have trouble selling that doll.
Who cares what the statue is valued at, we just wanted a freaking game , not a 60 dollar statue.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
If you think that and that the ingame items you get will "help you progress" (more than at low levels) then I think you will be very dissapointed with a CE purchase. Maybe you should downgrade.
That's why it was part of a COLLECTOR'S EDITION. Only the hardcore were ever going to buy it.
You clearly weren't the target for it, but that doesn't make Bioware evil for offering it to those fans who were willing to pay for it.
Ok for the 4th time. CE is not the only edition, there is delux and standard too. CE was supposed to be for the most die hard fans and it served its purpose when it was sold out in few hours. You can still get the game without the statue, and no the in game store is not MUST have. I don't know from where you got that.
Yes, it can be considered a $150 money-grab. I'd just like to thank Bioware for potentially demonstrating how completely out-of-touch they just might be, with this first community-delivered rediculous pricing model of TOR.
I hope this absurdity doesn't translate into rediculously out of touch they might be when it comes to actual massively-multiplayer game-play content and mechanics.
It is a must have when it "helps you to progress in level" that means that you are at a disadvantage if you don't buy the CE... Which is not sold out people, believe me they want that 150 dollars there will be more of those things if they aren't still floating around.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Clearly wasn't the target for it? i am the exact target. A die hard fan that was bamboozled into buying some statue from a failed company known as Gentle Giant..... I am just more vocal about it, because I want the game I want the CE I don't want the statue..
Wander if Gentle Giant would be willing to take it back. Yea, I am one of those fans that will pay 150 dollars if I have to, but reluctantly do so.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I"m guessing this is where your getting it from
Collector’s Edition Store: Unique in-game store with a dynamic array of items to assist you from your humble beginnings through your journey to become a galactic legend.
Not sure that means it will help you level or anything. Maybe reading too much into it?
Edit :got this off the swtor boards i'll see if i can find the point where they state this...if they stated it: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=387688
They stated yesteday: You'll have different looking gear from others but no stat advantage, and a lot of purely cosmetic items. If it'll be updated periodically remains to be seen.
Update for sung: found the quote from SR (thats stephen reid)
7:30p: Q: Plans for vanity armor that overwrites the equiped one? JO: We debated that, but we're not doing that. If you want to look great you'll have to make scarifies in combat strength. SR: All of the items you get from the vendor will be primarily cosmetic items like a vip location that you will be able to purchase with credits.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
With the world being in a financial meltdown EA won't be getting the subs they would in a time of plenty. WoW in comparison was started at a time of international monetary stability so it is not the same as then, especially for something as pricey as the CE. EA's main customers are going to be the 'oh big thing don't care what it is, must buy, yoink' kind of customer but in struggling countries that type of shopper simply won't exist.
... and the gnashing of teeth continues ...
EA/Bioware has already commented that all items in the Collector's Edition store can be earned. Go earn the items.
I swear people nowadays just want everything for free with zero effort.
I am sorry but no. Your point contradicts everything that we know leveling and progression in the game. So .. no you are wrong. None of us will be able to change your mind so whatever. I hope your feelings on the issue will change once you start playing the game.
So take the statue out of the box, put it somewhere safe, then sell it on eBay after a year. Big deal.
BTW, they're hardly a failed company just because you don't know who they are:
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0126846/
http://www.gentlegiantltd.com/
http://www.gentlegiantstudios.com/
Some people just don't understand that there are fans and there are fanatics. Some love Star Wars so much, they would buy a cearal box for $150 if they released it today. Let them be, this is nothing new. It's like some people here are so outraged at the concept of special or collector editions. This isn't the first time a CE has been released. lol
It's a money grab for sure.
The biggest culprit here is the statue, though without the statue and the in-game items it would be a pretty lame Collector's Edition.
I personally value the statue around $40. Sure it's a collector's piece, but we have to keep in mind a couple things here:
1. It's not a Star Wars character from the movies, so it's not going to be as desired by the fan base.
2. There are probably somewhere between 10,000 and 100,000 Collector's Editions. I'm pretty certain there are at least 10,000 CEs. That means the item really isn't that "rare".
3. Lots of other people plan on selling their statues on e-bay and there likely isn't a need in the market for them especially since it's going to be saturated with people trying to sell their statues.
Comparing the price to other items from the retailer is silly too. You are not the retailer. You are not selling the item directly. They probably even sold more of these bundling it with the collector's edition than any of the items on their site too (I'm not sure how popular that site is for collectibles). Putting the Star Wars name on it immediately increases the item's value (probably doubles) than the collectible would have had if it had the same design/materials and Star Wars didn't exist.
Thinking of it as an investment may be silly too. It will take decades to appreciate in value to be considered an investment. Some Collector's Editions are good investments due to their rarity, but it doesn't seem like this CE to have the value appreciate quickly. You'd be required to keep the statue in mint condition too for the investment portion to take hold.
If you are a fan all of this doesn't matter to you. That's what EA (and many other companies) are banking on. Fanboys are willing to pay more for something just because it has the brand name on it. Most people do it with one thing or another whether it's food products, clothing, or collectibles. Those of us who aren't fans will find it ridiculous, but I don't think it will matter. It's a shame most of us fall prey to this because we are true fans of whatever product, but it's the nature of things. Still, don't kid yourself thinking you'll get your money back on the statue reselling it. Only buy the CE edition if you really want the statue.
Look at other collector's editions too: http://www.collectorsedition.org. You'll see that most offer a bit better values, for instance the Batman one has a similar statue and better physical items (in my opinion), but only costs $100.
And it's one that clearly worked, considering the fact that the CE sold out everywhere in a matter of hours.
Of course it worked, most money grabs do.
That's the beauty of capitalism. A company can offer diehard fans a Collector's Edition of their game, including a statue from a well-known company and some virtual goods, price it at $150, and people will pay for it because they feel it's justified.
Ain't free enterprise grand?
I think the term money grab is a little silly. They did throw all that together for a higher price, sure, but lets face it, you could just as easily call the deluxe a money grab, or the standard edition a money grab with a 60 dollar price tag.
COULD they have made a collectors edition cheaper? Sure they could have, in fact, thats pretty much what the deluxe is. I see this particular CE being geared very closely towards those that have read all the books, kept up with the comics, most likely know more about the statue than most pepople just looking forward to the game, even for the star wars aspect.
Money grab? I don't see it being any more of a money grab then any other releases honestly.