Final Fantasy XIV. Graphics were lovely. Everything else was beyond terrible.
I've revisited it a couple of times during it's life and i'm amazed it's still going tbh.
Same here. I loved FFXI so, naturally, I was beyond excited for FFXIV. Then, I was beyond let down. Then I went back a few times in pure hope that it finally turned into the game I was hoping for. Needless to say, it didn't. Now I am purely amazed that the game is still going. It's like watching someone not musically inclined butcher a song over and over and over while they keep saying "wait.. wait, I got this. Lemme try again.. Wait! I messed up. lemme try again"...
Worst I ever played? Some kind of f2p low budget title I don't even remember.
Mmorpg that declined it's quality most (by my subjective opinion) - Lotro.
Game basically went from highly immersive, cooperation promoting game to single player online with co-op option instance medallions / tokens grinder. + cash shop is getting worse and worse(and bigger) with each update.
Hands down Alganon. Granted i havnt played many asian generic f2p grindfeasts so i am sure there are worse. But this is the worst i have actually played.
Playing: PO, EVE Waiting for: WoD Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
Worst I ever played? Some kind of f2p low budget title I don't even remember.
Mmorpg that declined it's quality (by my subjective opinion) - Lotro.
Game basically went from highly immersive, cooperation promoting game to single player online with co-op option instance medallions / tokens grinder.
Just cancelled my sub to LOTRO after getting to lvl 73 in the new expansion... was unimpressed. Played on and off since launch and Tho I love the concept the game has turned left, in my opinion, and gone from a challenging game to an easy solo play game.. and tho I like solo play it is way too solo.
I have seen several best game threads.. what is the worst you have actually played?
For me: it was WoW.. not because of the actual game but because of the community. My opinion folks not bashing the game, many like it - I do not.
What was your worst MMO played?
So. then your title is misleading. You're not actually talking about the MMO World of Warcraft. You're talking about it's community. Which makes your whole thread moot..
Worst MMO I've ever played is Mortal Online. Not because of the ideas in place, but because of the execution of those ideas.
If WOW was his worst game experience its his worst game experience, Community make a mmo what it is so there is no moot about it.
Final Fantasy XIV. Graphics were lovely. Everything else was beyond terrible.
I've revisited it a couple of times during it's life and i'm amazed it's still going tbh.
Same here. I loved FFXI so, naturally, I was beyond excited for FFXIV. Then, I was beyond let down. Then I went back a few times in pure hope that it finally turned into the game I was hoping for. Needless to say, it didn't. Now I am purely amazed that the game is still going. It's like watching someone not musically inclined butcher a song over and over and over while they keep saying "wait.. wait, I got this. Lemme try again.. Wait! I messed up. lemme try again"...
Damn , I hated XIV so much I forgot about it. I agree XI was ana amzing game then this turd came out, I change mine to XIV.
I have seen several best game threads.. what is the worst you have actually played?
For me: it was WoW.. not because of the actual game but because of the community. My opinion folks not bashing the game, many like it - I do not.
What was your worst MMO played?
If you're basing your experience of worst played being WoW...dude you seriously haven't played enough mmos...LOL. For me it had to be Fung Wan Online. Here let me explain what a bad mmo is and it has nothing to do with community:
Graphics were worst than Everquest I
UI was utter trash and convoluted
Grind was horrible and started at level 2
World was huge and bareboned
Mobs were aggro based from the get go and range was huge
PK from level 1 if you joined a faction/clan
Travel system was piss poor and confusing
Skill system was broken and complicated
Clipping and collision detection was horrible
Frame rate was choppy as hell
I mean I could go on about this game. I played thinking this was going to be an epic martial arts mmo based off the movies/comics/lore I loved (The Storm Riders) and it turned out to be an utter failure! Oh well.
OK, I do admit to not playing many F2P, I mostly assume they are going to be worth what I paid for them. I also base a lot of how good a game is on the community, and in that I rate WoW on the bottom. I could have also listed LOTRO, because of how disappointed I am in the direction that turbine has chosen. What was once a good and challenging game has become a single player online game. You can pretty much solo to the level cap, and the new expansion was disappointing, especially in the new skills, which were mostly all "improved" versions of old skills. Nice creative work there. They stopped the new zones too soon, everyone was clamoring for Helm's Deep, but it was not included.
The telling point for me is that when I turn off all the chat channels in a game because of the moronic chatter, like I found in Wow, I would be better off playing a single player game than that MMO.
Just so that it's clear...FWO was a sub game BEFORE it went F2P and then finally died the death it deserved. I played in 2003, before WoW was even around. Like I said you haven't played enough mmos.
Why because I didn't play that one? I have played enough to know what I like and do not like. Just because I have different criteria for what is bad and what is good does not mean I have not played enough mmo's. Played Asheron's call, EQ, EQ2, WoW, SWG, Shadowbane, Dark age of Camelot, LOTRO, AoC, EVE, a couple fo f2P's that I can not remember because they were so bad... Even played the Never Winter Night persistant worlds. Tried a couple of others on free trials. Nice try at painting me as a newcomer to MMo's but it is only based on the fact that you like WoW and I do not. Sorry, I do ocnsider WoW as the kindergarden of mmo's. Played lately? lol.
don't worry about it, most people on this forum are just here to show that they are much more of an MMO player than you, by citing random obscure MMOs that are made by one or two people.
Congrats you have played Super DragonZilla Age of Destruction a F2p MMORPG. made by some 12 year old in their parents basement. no one gives two ****s. there is usually a reason why they are free to play ... cause they are BAD.
anyways I have played pretty much Every AAA major MMORPG, and yes i would say WoW is the worst for one when i played it i fell asleep, two the community is terrible, three the game was made for the hopelessly stupid. and finally in my opinion WoW destroyed the direction that i was hoping the genre would go the open world sandobx community driven game.
so now if i want a sandbox game i have to play some shitty Indie game like Darkfall or Mortal because big name developers are too scared on taking the risk of doing something different than WoW.
I have seen several best game threads.. what is the worst you have actually played?
For me: it was WoW.. not because of the actual game but because of the community. My opinion folks not bashing the game, many like it - I do not.
What was your worst MMO played?
If you're basing your experience of worst played being WoW...dude you seriously haven't played enough mmos...LOL. For me it had to be Fung Wan Online. Here let me explain what a bad mmo is and it has nothing to do with community:
Graphics were worst than Everquest I
UI was utter trash and convoluted
Grind was horrible and started at level 2
World was huge and bareboned
Mobs were aggro based from the get go and range was huge
PK from level 1 if you joined a faction/clan
Travel system was piss poor and confusing
Skill system was broken and complicated
Clipping and collision detection was horrible
Frame rate was choppy as hell
I mean I could go on about this game. I played thinking this was going to be an epic martial arts mmo based off the movies/comics/lore I loved (The Storm Riders) and it turned out to be an utter failure! Oh well.
OK, I do admit to not playing many F2P, I mostly assume they are going to be worth what I paid for them. I also base a lot of how good a game is on the community, and in that I rate WoW on the bottom. I could have also listed LOTRO, because of how disappointed I am in the direction that turbine has chosen. What was once a good and challenging game has become a single player online game. You can pretty much solo to the level cap, and the new expansion was disappointing, especially in the new skills, which were mostly all "improved" versions of old skills. Nice creative work there. They stopped the new zones too soon, everyone was clamoring for Helm's Deep, but it was not included.
The telling point for me is that when I turn off all the chat channels in a game because of the moronic chatter, like I found in Wow, I would be better off playing a single player game than that MMO.
Just so that it's clear...FWO was a sub game BEFORE it went F2P and then finally died the death it deserved. I played in 2003, before WoW was even around. Like I said you haven't played enough mmos.
Why because I didn't play that one? I have played enough to know what I like and do not like. Just because I have different criteria for what is bad and what is good does not mean I have not played enough mmo's. Played Asheron's call, EQ, EQ2, WoW, SWG, Shadowbane, Dark age of Camelot, LOTRO, AoC, EVE, a couple fo f2P's that I can not remember because they were so bad... Even played the Never Winter Night persistant worlds. Tried a couple of others on free trials. Nice try at painting me as a newcomer to MMo's but it is only based on the fact that you like WoW and I do not. Sorry, I do ocnsider WoW as the kindergarden of mmo's. Played lately? lol.
Not trying to paint you as anything really. I came into your thread thinking I would get a robust discussion about features from past or present mmos that failed to deliver basic mechanics needed to make playing smooth and somewhat enjoyable. Not a thread that devolved into another redundant topic about which mmo has the worst community.
If that's the case what exactly makes this discussion any different than becoming a let's take another opportunity to focus on one thing and one thing only: community. Because of it's variation from user to user, the community card is a very weak argument to have for not playing something. Because frankly, the mmo community is only growing larger and history shows that the more people involved in anything, the more complicated things tend to get.
But features are a whole different ballgame. We can disagree about features, throw out some facts and have a rational discussion about it. Oh well I've explained myself and now you can take your topic in whatever direction you choose. Maybe we can talk about worst mmo features later, mmkay?
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Its so bad that the developers havn't charged a dime for it. And here in about 11 months they are going to be releasing "2.0" which is a remake of about 95% of the game,
.....in fact I think the only thing they are keeping is the engine.
Mortal Online. Easily the worst MMO I've played that is amazingly still alive (or undead). But I can't say that I played it very long. A trial run let me see more game issues than I ever dreamed possible.
If we are talking about MMOs that we played as in subscribed, then AoC would be the one.
I have seen several best game threads.. what is the worst you have actually played?
For me: it was WoW.. not because of the actual game but because of the community. My opinion folks not bashing the game, many like it - I do not.
What was your worst MMO played?
So. then your title is misleading. You're not actually talking about the MMO World of Warcraft. You're talking about it's community. Which makes your whole thread moot..
Worst MMO I've ever played is Mortal Online. Not because of the ideas in place, but because of the execution of those ideas.
If WOW was his worst game experience its his worst game experience, Community make a mmo what it is so there is no moot about it.
Still makes his thread title misleading. He titled the thread, "Worst MMO still active," and then went on to give his opinion of the worst HE has actually ever played. Two different things.
If I had to think of 'one', it would be SUN (Soul of the Ultimate Nation), reasons, heh....if you followed this title with any interest at all, and ever got to actually try it, then you know why
I have seen several best game threads.. what is the worst you have actually played?
For me: it was WoW.. not because of the actual game but because of the community. My opinion folks not bashing the game, many like it - I do not.
What was your worst MMO played?
The 'WoW community; is one of gaming's biggest myths. While there are a few MMOs that clearly have a more mature community (the EQ games stand out here, Ryzom is another) the majority pool from the same group of players. Ive seen chuck norris talk in pretty much every MMO. And other MMos have something extra annoying: people that do nothing but bash WoW 24/7 and say 'go back to WoW'. Vanguard's release was absolutely brutal with this, and Rift has it pretty bad too.
And all games have the same cure all for the community: join a guild.
The older games have better communities mainly because their heydey was before the entitled generation really came into play. But now all games are fairplay for lousy communities until you get into a real community (guild)
One of the myriad low quality F2P MMORPGs I played for ~10 minutes, probably (and therefore can't remember the name of.)
Same here.
Everyone saying Aion, or Rift, If sorry you've only played hyped stuff, you don't know how good you have it.
I've tried all sorts of crap.
Argo, i sort of remember that one. All in Engrish, gender locked classes, terribad korean pop sounding music. I was lured in by the steampunk theme.
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
don't worry about it, most people on this forum are just here to show that they are much more of an MMO player than you, by citing random obscure MMOs that are made by one or two people.
Congrats you have played Super DragonZilla Age of Destruction a F2p MMORPG. made by some 12 year old in their parents basement. no one gives two ****s. there is usually a reason why they are free to play ... cause they are BAD.
anyways I have played pretty much Every AAA major MMORPG, and yes i would say WoW is the worst for one when i played it i fell asleep, two the community is terrible, three the game was made for the hopelessly stupid. and finally in my opinion WoW destroyed the direction that i was hoping the genre would go the open world sandobx community driven game.
so now if i want a sandbox game i have to play some shitty Indie game like Darkfall or Mortal because big name developers are too scared on taking the risk of doing something different than WoW.
No sometimes it's called trying to absorb information from other people's experiences. I like reading about how others may have experienced things I have or not have and draw conclusions based on those things that each mmo may or may not share.
Like I stated before, FWO was P2P well before it was F2P. And just because you happen to lump all F2Ps as crapfest mmos, others may not be so quick to pull the trigger. Maybe....just maybe some players are looking for a particular feature that a F2P mmo may have that they can experience themselves and see if it works for them. Keeping a topic focused on something as varied as community is not being open-minded as we are not of the hive mind mentality when it comes to that topic.
Ok point taken but could you explain:
What exactly made you fall asleep?
I've touched on the community thing so we'll move on.
How exactly do you make a game for stupid players? Do you have any other examples?
How did WoW destroy what direction mmos would have headed? That's like saying shortly after the invention of ice cream, they introduced a chocolate variant and now you cannot get a better vanilla ice cream. Which is obviously not the case. And the fact there are different flavors, ice cream comes in a huge variety and is enjoyed by millions more than vanilla lovers. It that really a bad thing?
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
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Its so bad that the developers havn't charged a dime for it. And here in about 11 months they are going to be releasing "2.0" which is a remake of about 95% of the game,
.....in fact I think the only thing they are keeping is the engine.
I'm sure you meant FFXIV not FFXI. FFXI was fantastic, original, emersive, beautiful, and the community was top notch.
Regarding FFXIV's "2.0" release, I don't even think they are keeping the engine.
don't worry about it, most people on this forum are just here to show that they are much more of an MMO player than you, by citing random obscure MMOs that are made by one or two people.
Congrats you have played Super DragonZilla Age of Destruction a F2p MMORPG. made by some 12 year old in their parents basement. no one gives two ****s. there is usually a reason why they are free to play ... cause they are BAD.
anyways I have played pretty much Every AAA major MMORPG, and yes i would say WoW is the worst for one when i played it i fell asleep, two the community is terrible, three the game was made for the hopelessly stupid. and finally in my opinion WoW destroyed the direction that i was hoping the genre would go the open world sandobx community driven game.
so now if i want a sandbox game i have to play some shitty Indie game like Darkfall or Mortal because big name developers are too scared on taking the risk of doing something different than WoW.
No sometimes it's called trying to absord information from other people's experiences. I like reading about how others may have experienced things I have or not have and draw conclusions based on those things that each mmo may or may not share.
Like I stated before, FWO was P2P well before it was F2P. And just because you happen to lump all F2Ps as crapfest mmos, others may not be so quick to pull the trigger. Maybe....just maybe some players are looking for a particular feature that a F2P mmo may have that they can expereince themselves and see if it works for them. Keeping a topic focused on something as varied as community is not being open-minded as we are not of the hive mind mentality when it comes to that topic.
Ok point taken but could you explain:
What exactly made you fall asleep?
I've touched on the community thing so we'll move on.
How exactly do you make a game for stupid players? Do you have any other examples?
How did WoW destroy what direction mmos would have headed? That's like saying shortly after the invention of ice cream, they introduced a chocolate variant and now you cannot get a better vanilla ice cream. Which is obviously not the case. And for the fact of the different flavors, ice cream comes in a huge variety and is enjoyed by millions more than vanilla lovers. It that really a bad thing?
1) it was while leveling the whole leveling process, it was dumbed down, dull and boring there was no sense of danger. I mean hell to get some excitement out of the game i use to see how many of the mobs i could pull. "you need to kill 10 mobs" hey ill pull 10 mobs and see if i can kill them. and then grouping christ could encounters get any easier.
2) yeah the community is just terrible in fact if i had turned off chat i probably would have enjoyed the game more.
3) the game takes little to no thought to be successful in everything is just dumbed down its made for the lowest common denominator. combat, no need for strategy i mean hell while leveling you could probably just throw on auto attack and succeed, crafting ... no need to think just plug in the right materials and press the create button. don't have to worry about failing don't have to think about anything
4) i explained this if you actually read my post, from UO to EQ1 to SWG I saw the genre growing into an open world with living breathing communities, real economies and real substance. now its just all about the phat lootz. so yeah for me it destroyed the direction i was hoping the genre would move toward.
I have seen several best game threads.. what is the worst you have actually played?
For me: it was WoW.. not because of the actual game but because of the community. My opinion folks not bashing the game, many like it - I do not.
What was your worst MMO played?
If you're basing your experience of worst played being WoW...dude you seriously haven't played enough mmos...LOL. For me it had to be Fung Wan Online. Here let me explain what a bad mmo is and it has nothing to do with community:
Graphics were worst than Everquest I
UI was utter trash and convoluted
Grind was horrible and started at level 2
World was huge and bareboned
Mobs were aggro based from the get go and range was huge
PK from level 1 if you joined a faction/clan
Travel system was piss poor and confusing
Skill system was broken and complicated
Clipping and collision detection was horrible
Frame rate was choppy as hell
I mean I could go on about this game. I played thinking this was going to be an epic martial arts mmo based off the movies/comics/lore I loved (The Storm Riders) and it turned out to be an utter failure! Oh well.
OK, I do admit to not playing many F2P, I mostly assume they are going to be worth what I paid for them. I also base a lot of how good a game is on the community, and in that I rate WoW on the bottom. I could have also listed LOTRO, because of how disappointed I am in the direction that turbine has chosen. What was once a good and challenging game has become a single player online game. You can pretty much solo to the level cap, and the new expansion was disappointing, especially in the new skills, which were mostly all "improved" versions of old skills. Nice creative work there. They stopped the new zones too soon, everyone was clamoring for Helm's Deep, but it was not included.
The telling point for me is that when I turn off all the chat channels in a game because of the moronic chatter, like I found in Wow, I would be better off playing a single player game than that MMO.
Just so that it's clear...FWO was a sub game BEFORE it went F2P and then finally died the death it deserved. I played in 2003, before WoW was even around. Like I said you haven't played enough mmos.
Why because I didn't play that one? I have played enough to know what I like and do not like. Just because I have different criteria for what is bad and what is good does not mean I have not played enough mmo's. Played Asheron's call, EQ, EQ2, WoW, SWG, Shadowbane, Dark age of Camelot, LOTRO, AoC, EVE, a couple fo f2P's that I can not remember because they were so bad... Even played the Never Winter Night persistant worlds. Tried a couple of others on free trials. Nice try at painting me as a newcomer to MMo's but it is only based on the fact that you like WoW and I do not. Sorry, I do ocnsider WoW as the kindergarden of mmo's. Played lately? lol.
Not trying to paint you as anything really. I came into your thread thinking I would get a robust discussion about features from past or present mmos that failed to deliver basic mechanics needed to make playing smooth and somewhat enjoyable. Not a thread that devolved into another redundant topic about which mmo has the worst community.
If that's the case what exactly makes this discussion any different than becoming a let's take another opportunity to focus on one thing and one thing only: community. Because of it's variation from user to user, the community card is a very weak argument to have for not playing something. Because frankly, the mmo community is only growing larger and history shows that the more people involved in anything, the more complicated things tend to get.
But features are a whole different ballgame. We can disagree about features, throw out some facts and have a rational discussion about it. Oh well I've explained myself and now you can take your topic in whatever direction you choose. Maybe we can talk about worst mmo features later, mmkay?
well then do so, have stated that this is not a thread for discussing community. If you have different criterion discuss them. Or not. Your choice. You could always make your own thread instead.
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Same here. I loved FFXI so, naturally, I was beyond excited for FFXIV. Then, I was beyond let down. Then I went back a few times in pure hope that it finally turned into the game I was hoping for. Needless to say, it didn't. Now I am purely amazed that the game is still going. It's like watching someone not musically inclined butcher a song over and over and over while they keep saying "wait.. wait, I got this. Lemme try again.. Wait! I messed up. lemme try again"...
Worst I ever played? Some kind of f2p low budget title I don't even remember.
Mmorpg that declined it's quality most (by my subjective opinion) - Lotro.
Game basically went from highly immersive, cooperation promoting game to single player online with co-op option instance medallions / tokens grinder. + cash shop is getting worse and worse(and bigger) with each update.
Hands down Alganon. Granted i havnt played many asian generic f2p grindfeasts so i am sure there are worse. But this is the worst i have actually played.
Playing: PO, EVE
Waiting for: WoD
Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
Just cancelled my sub to LOTRO after getting to lvl 73 in the new expansion... was unimpressed. Played on and off since launch and Tho I love the concept the game has turned left, in my opinion, and gone from a challenging game to an easy solo play game.. and tho I like solo play it is way too solo.
Currently bored with MMO's.
A Perfect World F2P that I cant recall the name of. As for P2P I have to go with STO.
Edit. The F2P was called Ether Saga. Sorry, slow memory
Really? This game sucks and Im not having fun? Im going to unsub right now. Thanks for the tip.
If WOW was his worst game experience its his worst game experience, Community make a mmo what it is so there is no moot about it.
Damn , I hated XIV so much I forgot about it. I agree XI was ana amzing game then this turd came out, I change mine to XIV.
don't worry about it, most people on this forum are just here to show that they are much more of an MMO player than you, by citing random obscure MMOs that are made by one or two people.
Congrats you have played Super DragonZilla Age of Destruction a F2p MMORPG. made by some 12 year old in their parents basement. no one gives two ****s. there is usually a reason why they are free to play ... cause they are BAD.
anyways I have played pretty much Every AAA major MMORPG, and yes i would say WoW is the worst for one when i played it i fell asleep, two the community is terrible, three the game was made for the hopelessly stupid. and finally in my opinion WoW destroyed the direction that i was hoping the genre would go the open world sandobx community driven game.
so now if i want a sandbox game i have to play some shitty Indie game like Darkfall or Mortal because big name developers are too scared on taking the risk of doing something different than WoW.
Not trying to paint you as anything really. I came into your thread thinking I would get a robust discussion about features from past or present mmos that failed to deliver basic mechanics needed to make playing smooth and somewhat enjoyable. Not a thread that devolved into another redundant topic about which mmo has the worst community.
If that's the case what exactly makes this discussion any different than becoming a let's take another opportunity to focus on one thing and one thing only: community. Because of it's variation from user to user, the community card is a very weak argument to have for not playing something. Because frankly, the mmo community is only growing larger and history shows that the more people involved in anything, the more complicated things tend to get.
But features are a whole different ballgame. We can disagree about features, throw out some facts and have a rational discussion about it. Oh well I've explained myself and now you can take your topic in whatever direction you choose. Maybe we can talk about worst mmo features later, mmkay?
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I would say FFXI,
Its so bad that the developers havn't charged a dime for it. And here in about 11 months they are going to be releasing "2.0" which is a remake of about 95% of the game,
.....in fact I think the only thing they are keeping is the engine.
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Mortal Online. Easily the worst MMO I've played that is amazingly still alive (or undead). But I can't say that I played it very long. A trial run let me see more game issues than I ever dreamed possible.
If we are talking about MMOs that we played as in subscribed, then AoC would be the one.
Still makes his thread title misleading. He titled the thread, "Worst MMO still active," and then went on to give his opinion of the worst HE has actually ever played. Two different things.
Probably Mortal Online.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
Pretty much every game ever released since Everquest, with a handful of exceptions.
Honestly since online gaming has gone mainstream the game communities have gone consistently downhill.
With every new game released the games become more about the bells and whistles, and less about the meat and potatoes.
PVP has lost its way becoming weak and serving no purpose, often destroyed by a lack of effort to balance classes.
As I said earlier a few exceptions,
Ryzom, exceptional player community, fun friendly helpful.
SWG ( PRE ), best sandbox ever made, fantasic player community, player driven economy, government, crafting.
DAOC, intense exceptional meaningful pvp, a true pleasure to play.
Sadly out of the thousands of games that have released three is about all I can give a nod to as decent games.
The three worst games I have ever played are...
1) Aion. Promised much. Delivered nothing.
2) Star Trek Online. Shallowest game content ever. Appalingly simplistic starship combat. Worthless planetary content.
3) Rift. See comment about Aion.
If I had to think of 'one', it would be SUN (Soul of the Ultimate Nation), reasons, heh....if you followed this title with any interest at all, and ever got to actually try it, then you know why
The 'WoW community; is one of gaming's biggest myths. While there are a few MMOs that clearly have a more mature community (the EQ games stand out here, Ryzom is another) the majority pool from the same group of players. Ive seen chuck norris talk in pretty much every MMO. And other MMos have something extra annoying: people that do nothing but bash WoW 24/7 and say 'go back to WoW'. Vanguard's release was absolutely brutal with this, and Rift has it pretty bad too.
And all games have the same cure all for the community: join a guild.
The older games have better communities mainly because their heydey was before the entitled generation really came into play. But now all games are fairplay for lousy communities until you get into a real community (guild)
Same here.
Everyone saying Aion, or Rift, If sorry you've only played hyped stuff, you don't know how good you have it.
I've tried all sorts of crap.
Argo, i sort of remember that one. All in Engrish, gender locked classes, terribad korean pop sounding music. I was lured in by the steampunk theme.
"Never met a pack of humans that were any different. Look at the idiots that get elected every couple of years. You really consider those guys more mature than us? The only difference between us and them is, when they gank some noobs and take their stuff, the noobs actually die." - Madimorga
No sometimes it's called trying to absorb information from other people's experiences. I like reading about how others may have experienced things I have or not have and draw conclusions based on those things that each mmo may or may not share.
Like I stated before, FWO was P2P well before it was F2P. And just because you happen to lump all F2Ps as crapfest mmos, others may not be so quick to pull the trigger. Maybe....just maybe some players are looking for a particular feature that a F2P mmo may have that they can experience themselves and see if it works for them. Keeping a topic focused on something as varied as community is not being open-minded as we are not of the hive mind mentality when it comes to that topic.
Ok point taken but could you explain:
What exactly made you fall asleep?
I've touched on the community thing so we'll move on.
How exactly do you make a game for stupid players? Do you have any other examples?
How did WoW destroy what direction mmos would have headed? That's like saying shortly after the invention of ice cream, they introduced a chocolate variant and now you cannot get a better vanilla ice cream. Which is obviously not the case. And the fact there are different flavors, ice cream comes in a huge variety and is enjoyed by millions more than vanilla lovers. It that really a bad thing?
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Pretty much any Asian MMO ive tried, even the so called AAA ones like Lineage II or Aion. All were bland and silly.
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I'm sure you meant FFXIV not FFXI. FFXI was fantastic, original, emersive, beautiful, and the community was top notch.
Regarding FFXIV's "2.0" release, I don't even think they are keeping the engine.
So make up ur mind...are u asking about the worst mmo or the worst comunity in an mmo?
So in your opinion the worst mmo comunity is wow...what about the real answer to your question ?
What I "dislike" the most about WOW is all the WOW-Clones.
In my ranking of worst games, all the "clones" have a preferred site in the list.
1) it was while leveling the whole leveling process, it was dumbed down, dull and boring there was no sense of danger. I mean hell to get some excitement out of the game i use to see how many of the mobs i could pull. "you need to kill 10 mobs" hey ill pull 10 mobs and see if i can kill them. and then grouping christ could encounters get any easier.
2) yeah the community is just terrible in fact if i had turned off chat i probably would have enjoyed the game more.
3) the game takes little to no thought to be successful in everything is just dumbed down its made for the lowest common denominator. combat, no need for strategy i mean hell while leveling you could probably just throw on auto attack and succeed, crafting ... no need to think just plug in the right materials and press the create button. don't have to worry about failing don't have to think about anything
4) i explained this if you actually read my post, from UO to EQ1 to SWG I saw the genre growing into an open world with living breathing communities, real economies and real substance. now its just all about the phat lootz. so yeah for me it destroyed the direction i was hoping the genre would move toward.
well then do so, have stated that this is not a thread for discussing community. If you have different criterion discuss them. Or not. Your choice. You could always make your own thread instead.
Currently bored with MMO's.