I like the water... always have... just not seeing the comparison which was why I asked if they released a HD Texture pack or Graphical upgrade that I did not know about. Unlike you I was being open to the possibility of being wrong about that one game. After someone mentioned "Launched with" better graphics ... I then continued my disagreement because IN MY OPINION theres no way in hell launch lotro beats launch swtor... upgrade your graphics card.
They did. It was released along side the game, so it "launched with" better graphics.
Never liked Aion graphics and Aion has horrible textures and bad grass. I do think I'm seeing more clearly though. You simply dislike SWTOR so you are going to parade any and all games you think someone else who dislikes swtor would back you on to say it's better. Which brings up to "Opinion" in your opinion you think so and so is better in my opinion I do not... why do you keep bringing up GA? Thats just... lol... Unfortunately your opinion isn't a universal law regardless to how much you want it to be.
Uh. I bought the game and am currently awaiting my email. Another fail try to stampede away from the point of discussion and trying to "understand" why I'm posting. The reason I'm posting is because there are, infact, many F2P games that do have better graphics (higher system requirements, higher resolution textures, LoD, AA) then SWTOR. You make it sound like I'm on some quest and that because SWTOR has "worse" graphics it's a bad thing. Did I ever say that? No. There are many good, logical reasons to keep your system requirements low and have a art style. But that's not what you argued and definitely not what this thread is about.
Regardless of your personal tastes, arguing that Aion has worse textures and "bad grass" compared to SWTOR is, once again, wrong.
Why do I keep bringing up Global Agenda? Because it's free-to-play and fits into the argument premises. Or do you think that your opinion of a "lol-fail" game can't be included?
1. You dont have to sub to AoC and can do any content
If you have to pay for it, it's Buy 2 Play if you have to Sub it's not F2P... You sir... are wrong.
Really? ROFL. B2P =/= sub. Its obvious to someone not blinded by fanboism.
Really? ROFL. It's obvious someone hasn't played AoC
Someone obviously dont know what are they talking about. Seems like youre noob to MMOs
looks like someone is noob to buying access to raids or the expansion pack which is the entire second half of the game considering it f2p... when you have to either sub or buy the rest of the games content. Levels 1-80 is basically a tutorial... if you don't do the asian land everyone who does will destroy you... BADDDD. Like I said though... someone has no idea what they're talking about.
Originally posted by DexterMMO
AoC isn't a f2p... you have to sub to do most of the content....
I rest my case.
2. LOTRO had high-res textures on release. In fact it had standard and hi-res client so you didnt have to dowload extra if you cant run it. In fact it had all bells and whistles that were available on release. It was more graphically advanced AT RELEASE than SWTOR is now and still could run on your grandmothers PC.
Okay so we're taljking about LOTRO release graphics... nice then no... there is no way in hell LOTRO has better graphics than swtor.
Its shocking, isnt it.
No
You seem to be shocked by that particular revelation *shrug*
Not sure how I seem shocked. *sigh*
3. Its very sloppy work on BW part. Those are basics not some advanced features. Only logical conlusion is that their engine sucks a lot. AA? Its a standard option. I dont remeber last game i played that didnt have it.
Agreed, Bioware made some mistakes yet I have never seen you praise them for the fact their game runs betters than any other game that has launched... EVER. That's called being biased and trying to nit pick any feature you can to funnel your hate.
Runs better than any game ever launched? No, LOTRO and Rift are on the same level. This is where your fanboism shows. And this is topic about textures.
Or it could come down to the mighty "Opinion" I feel it runs better than those games I also feel lotro ran better than Rift and Rift ran better than pretty much anything else. These are my actual feelings and I'm completely 100% entitled to them as you are to think otherwise but if you claim my feelings to be wrong you are a hypocrite for thinking yours are right.
Its not opinion. Was there for LOTRO/Rift/will be for SWTOR launch. There are objective metrics used in this one.
This is barely english. I do not compute.
Yah, it seems you dont compute. Seems your English has "lots of room for improvement"
You are entiteled to your feelings. And i am to mine and i feel by this point you just troll us all.
If our opinions are equal then I am not trolling a single bit more than you are. Because they're equal.
1. You dont have to sub to AoC and can do any content
If you have to pay for it, it's Buy 2 Play if you have to Sub it's not F2P... You sir... are wrong.
Really? ROFL. B2P =/= sub. Its obvious to someone not blinded by fanboism.
Really? ROFL. It's obvious someone hasn't played AoC
Someone obviously dont know what are they talking about. Seems like youre noob to MMOs
looks like someone is noob to buying access to raids or the expansion pack which is the entire second half of the game considering it f2p... when you have to either sub or buy the rest of the games content. Levels 1-80 is basically a tutorial... if you don't do the asian land everyone who does will destroy you... BADDDD. Like I said though... someone has no idea what they're talking about.
Originally posted by DexterMMO
AoC isn't a f2p... you have to sub to do most of the content....
I rest my case.
You rest your case on a fact? Good looks like I win.
2. LOTRO had high-res textures on release. In fact it had standard and hi-res client so you didnt have to dowload extra if you cant run it. In fact it had all bells and whistles that were available on release. It was more graphically advanced AT RELEASE than SWTOR is now and still could run on your grandmothers PC.
Okay so we're taljking about LOTRO release graphics... nice then no... there is no way in hell LOTRO has better graphics than swtor.
Its shocking, isnt it.
No
You seem to be shocked by that particular revelation *shrug*
Not sure how I seem shocked. *sigh*
3. Its very sloppy work on BW part. Those are basics not some advanced features. Only logical conlusion is that their engine sucks a lot. AA? Its a standard option. I dont remeber last game i played that didnt have it.
Agreed, Bioware made some mistakes yet I have never seen you praise them for the fact their game runs betters than any other game that has launched... EVER. That's called being biased and trying to nit pick any feature you can to funnel your hate.
Runs better than any game ever launched? No, LOTRO and Rift are on the same level. This is where your fanboism shows. And this is topic about textures.
Or it could come down to the mighty "Opinion" I feel it runs better than those games I also feel lotro ran better than Rift and Rift ran better than pretty much anything else. These are my actual feelings and I'm completely 100% entitled to them as you are to think otherwise but if you claim my feelings to be wrong you are a hypocrite for thinking yours are right.
Its not opinion. Was there for LOTRO/Rift/will be for SWTOR launch. There are objective metrics used in this one.
This is barely english. I do not compute.
Yah, it seems you dont compute. Seems your English has "lots of room for improvement"
English is fine... just not fluent in other languages.
You are entiteled to your feelings. And i am to mine and i feel by this point you just troll us all.
If our opinions are equal then I am not trolling a single bit more than you are. Because they're equal.
Seriously.
Fo' real
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted. There is really nothing else to say on the subject and I'm glad that you've decided to finally leave it to rest.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted.
Have a good time in game.
It is impossible to be wrong in a battle of opinion vs opinion. Take this knowledge and evolve as a species.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted.
Have a good time in game.
It is impossible to be wrong in a battle of opinion vs opinion. Take this knowledge and evolve as a species.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted.
Have a good time in game.
It is impossible to be wrong in a battle of opinion vs opinion. Take this knowledge and evolve as a species.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
Google opinion and then you'll see how wrong you are. In my opinion none of those games are better visually than SWTOR. AoC is though but its not f2p it's hybrid... you can play half the content for free but you have to BUY the rest... that is not a full f2p. I'm not replying to you anymore. You're wrong. Please stop.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted.
Have a good time in game.
It is impossible to be wrong in a battle of opinion vs opinion. Take this knowledge and evolve as a species.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
Google opinion and then you'll see how wrong you are. In my opinion none of those games are better visually than SWTOR. AoC is though but its not f2p it's hybrid... you can play half the content for free but you have to BUY the rest... that is not a full f2p. I'm not replying to you anymore. You're wrong. Please stop.
i think you both need a hot water bottle, some aspirin, and a bit of a lie-down.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
Dont feed the troll
Nice Rebuttal
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted.
Have a good time in game.
It is impossible to be wrong in a battle of opinion vs opinion. Take this knowledge and evolve as a species.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
Google opinion and then you'll see how wrong you are. In my opinion none of those games are better visually than SWTOR. AoC is though but its not f2p it's hybrid... you can play half the content for free but you have to BUY the rest... that is not a full f2p. I'm not replying to you anymore. You're wrong. Please stop.
That's fine. I think I have a firm understanding of the word opinion, but I appreciate your effort to advance my understanding. By "better visually" you could say you liked the art style more (which is an opinion), but when it really comes down to those cores I've highlighted above, it's very empirical. Either it's better or it's not and in SWTOR's case it's just not better than the listed games. Thanks for conceding, enjoy the game!
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Uh. I bought the game and am currently awaiting my email. Another fail try to stampede away from the point of discussion and trying to "understand" why I'm posting. The reason I'm posting is because there are, infact, many F2P games that do have better graphics (higher system requirements, higher resolution textures, LoD, AA) then SWTOR. You make it sound like I'm on some quest and that because SWTOR has "worse" graphics it's a bad thing. Did I ever say that? No. There are many good, logical reasons to keep your system requirements low and have a art style. But that's not what you argued and definitely not what this thread is about.
Regardless of your personal tastes, arguing that Aion has worse textures and "bad grass" compared to SWTOR is, once again, wrong.
Why do I keep bringing up Global Agenda? Because it's free-to-play and fits into the argument premises. Or do you think that your opinion of a "lol-fail" game can't be included?
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I openly disagree with anything you have to say on this subject... there is no way within your logic to convince me my views are incorrect. I disagree on all points you have made and will now end our conversation. I am completely out of ways to explain to you what an opinion is and how mine is different from yours and that we have to agree to disagree so instead I will walk away. Enjoy your day, good luck in beta.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
Let me put it to you simply. You were wrong in your original argument. You continued to create arguments, shadowed in personal attacks, that were also factually incorrect and they were correctly and throughly refuted. There is really nothing else to say on the subject and I'm glad that you've decided to finally leave it to rest.
Have a good time in game.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
It is impossible to be wrong in a battle of opinion vs opinion. Take this knowledge and evolve as a species.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
Saying that "There are no F2P games with better graphics than SWTOR" is not a opinion. It's a statement that can either be proved or disproved by looking at texture resolutions, draw distance, anti-aliasing, etc. It's been proven false with a few games that have been listed again and again. You also implied that I was a "SWTOR-hater" when I've bought the game and am awaiting my email.
No matter how much you spin it, your "opinion" wasn't an opinion and you were incorrect in your initial and following arguments.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Google opinion and then you'll see how wrong you are. In my opinion none of those games are better visually than SWTOR. AoC is though but its not f2p it's hybrid... you can play half the content for free but you have to BUY the rest... that is not a full f2p. I'm not replying to you anymore. You're wrong. Please stop.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
i think you both need a hot water bottle, some aspirin, and a bit of a lie-down.
Dont feed the troll
Nice Rebuttal
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
That's fine. I think I have a firm understanding of the word opinion, but I appreciate your effort to advance my understanding. By "better visually" you could say you liked the art style more (which is an opinion), but when it really comes down to those cores I've highlighted above, it's very empirical. Either it's better or it's not and in SWTOR's case it's just not better than the listed games. Thanks for conceding, enjoy the game!
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Just woke up... =-(
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.