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Why the hate? First impressions are really good.

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  • DreadbladeDreadblade Member Posts: 384

    I am beta testing atm, the combat is a lot of fun honestly, the graphics while awesome do not seem as crisp as Aions not sure why yet. I plan on pushing past 20 to see what the games opens up to, we will see hell it is a free wekend to play but it is more fun then SWTOR sadly enough.

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  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

  • MMOarQQMMOarQQ Member Posts: 636

    Originally posted by BilboDoggins

    Originally posted by Unshra


    Originally posted by TruthXHurts


    Originally posted by BilboDoggins

    Korean animu grinders are all the same and few people in the West want to play them.

     

    Thats just the facts. Sorry you cant handle that and it makes you angry. Americans dont like Garugamesh and pocky.

    I love Pocky son. [Mod Edit]

    This, I love Pocky and my Camaro, also love sashimi. ^_^

    And you love TERA. Coincidence? I think not...........

     

    Thanks for proving my point.

    What are you, some kind of closet racist/xenophobe?

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Member UncommonPosts: 1,290

    I will say that I'm having more fun with Tera's emphasis on Graphics / Combat than SWTORs emphasis on Story. I'd buy / sub Tera over SWTOR any day.

    I actually kind of wish I could trade in my Star Wars account for Tera when it releases, I have no urge to resub to SWTOR at all.

  • revy66revy66 Member Posts: 464

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Every MMO is based 95% around combat save for few sandboxes (half of which are broken). The graphics and the combat are basically the single most important aspects of an MMO today, and due to that the PvP and PvE will be stellar. You can build from there as the korean version of the game has already shown.

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Member UncommonPosts: 2,551

    Originally posted by revy66

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Every MMO is based 95% around combat save for few sandboxes (half of which are broken). The graphics and the combat are basically the single most important aspects of an MMO today, and due to that the PvP and PvE will be stellar. You can build from there as the korean version of the game has already shown.

     

    Single most important aspects of an MMO today for box sales maybe, but I'm talking long term.

    Speaking generally here, but graphics shouldn't matter to you that much unless you're the type of guy that just has to show off the capabilities of his 6,000 dollar gaming machine, and even the best graphics become less impressive once you get used to seeing them on a regular basis.  For that reason alone, graphics should not be a major reason for devoting yourself to TERA.

    As for combat, how many MMORPGs have combat that's really different from WoW? By your logic, if they have good graphics, they should be a major success, only they aren't.  Why is that?  Probably due to a lack of endgame content, bugs, glitches, poor quest design, or a myriad of other issues which have far more impact on the long term success of a game than it's graphics and combat.  TERA"s combat is different from WoW, but TERA's PvE content is basically run here, kill x of y, run back.  It's basic elementary level quest design that doesn't even try to disguise itself in any way.  It's a step above AION, but it doesn't even touch the more popular western MMORPGs.  When people stop ogling over the game's graphics, will the game's combat truly be enough to keep people playing?  I doubt it for the reasons mentioned above.  Sooner or later that combat isn't going to seem so impressive once you get used to it and then TERA's awful PvE progression and only that is going to be staring you in the face.

  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    So I hopped in today for the first time Ive only got till level 8 so I don't have a solid opinion on it yet. I do have to say this:


     

    • The feel and art style of the game, to me at least, feels a LOT like Aion

    • The combat against starting mobs still feels very much like any other mmo, dont have the need to move out of the way and don't feel in any way like an action combat...hope this will change later on.

    • I pay 0 attention to what the quests say or what anything in the world is about. To be honest story seems non existent and the quest system is carbon copy mmo.

    • The game is gorgeous....

    • I don't think this will be a grinder....thank God!

     


    Now I am looking foward to pvp and getting off the newb island. I joined a guild to try and experience some of the group content and how guild mechanic works in this game. Anyways I will keep moving along and expect to have a better picture of this game as things move along. But as of right now I would not think about getting this game, and if I do its because of the potential in the combat system.

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  • revy66revy66 Member Posts: 464

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by revy66


    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Every MMO is based 95% around combat save for few sandboxes (half of which are broken). The graphics and the combat are basically the single most important aspects of an MMO today, and due to that the PvP and PvE will be stellar. You can build from there as the korean version of the game has already shown.

     

    Single most important aspects of an MMO today for box sales maybe, but I'm talking long term.

    Speaking generally here, but graphics shouldn't matter to you that much unless you're the type of guy that just has to show off the capabilities of his 6,000 dollar gaming machine, and even the best graphics become less impressive once you get used to seeing them on a regular basis.  For that reason alone, graphics should not be a major reason for devoting yourself to TERA.

    As for combat, how many MMORPGs have combat that's really different from WoW? By your logic, if they have good graphics, they should be a major success, only they aren't.  Why is that?  Probably due to a lack of endgame content, bugs, glitches, poor quest design, or a myriad of other issues which have far more impact on the long term success of a game than it's graphics and combat.  TERA"s combat is different from WoW, but TERA's PvE content is basically run here, kill x of y, run back.  It's basic elementary level quest design that doesn't even try to disguise itself in any way.  It's a step above AION, but it doesn't even touch the more popular western MMORPGs.  When people stop ogling over the game's graphics, will the game's combat truly be enough to keep people playing?  I doubt it for the reasons mentioned above.  Sooner or later that combat isn't going to seem so impressive once you get used to it and then TERA's awful PvE progression and only that is going to be staring you in the face.

    Yeah, but I just told you. Combat doesn't change in an MMO. Bad combat is gonna stay bad no matter how many years pass; most other things you can change and this is evidently shown. It will not be the combat that keeps one playing. Combat will be what keeps one coming back, more features, updated content, and more and more things things to do at max level as the game progresses will be what will keep one playing.

  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by revy66

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Every MMO is based 95% around combat save for few sandboxes (half of which are broken). The graphics and the combat are basically the single most important aspects of an MMO today, and due to that the PvP and PvE will be stellar. You can build from there as the korean version of the game has already shown.

    This is *highly* debateable.  In fact, I think you are very wrong.  Most MMO players really don't care about the combat as long as the mechanics are sound, and the classes are interesting.  And graphics?  How well have Aion and AoC done in NA?

  • Games888Games888 Member Posts: 243

    agree combat, UI, graphics are not the main point to keep ppl around in mmo. 

  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

     Sooner or later that combat isn't going to seem so impressive once you get used to it and then TERA's awful PvE progression and only that is going to be staring you in the face.

    This.  The combat is still repetitive.  People will get tired of dodging mobs and hitting spacebar.

  • pmaurapmaura Member UncommonPosts: 530

    heres the thing with tera for me, I can not stand the art direction at all. Its way to anime for me, swining massive lances arounds and swords that would take a mountain of metal to make is just not for me.

    Also the females look way to young and way to naked.

    So in general the art direction is to over the top, and would nt care how great the gameplay is or story if I had to play a game with 10 year old justi beiber character swinging around a sword that was 20' in length.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Well as someone who used to look forward to Tera, I can say I am not enjoying the beta, will not play after the weekend (or probably after tonight), nor will I buy the game.  The "pretty" art style reminds me heavily of Aion and a couple of F2Ps and I'm not going to waste my time doing boring quests with a hack 'n slash mechanic.  It's not different enough for me.

  • solpariahsolpariah Member UncommonPosts: 19

    I'm actually enjoying the beta quite a bit. Considering this is beta, not every feature may be available and a lot may very well change between now and release. The atmosphere, combat and the races are great.

  • RedKatanaRedKatana Member Posts: 211

    Everyone that disslike the game has the ecxuse "it's too easy and themepark" but when a "sandbox" releases none of them play it. (not talking about tera)

    The game has some really good points that all these hardcore gamers don't see or act like they don't see.

    Main point and the most important is: You play the game! = your skills as individual and not your gear. All those other games that you compare TERA with have no skill at all example a 5 year old can beat anyone on pvp on those games just by hitting 1 , 2 , 3 and repeat cause those games are 100% based on gear.

    In TERA even the stongest mob can't kill you if you're good anough and move out of the way of their attack so pretty much your skills count and there is no targetlock like all the themeparks you're describing.

    Get your facts right and then post.

  • Timeout77Timeout77 Member Posts: 177

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by revy66


    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Every MMO is based 95% around combat save for few sandboxes (half of which are broken). The graphics and the combat are basically the single most important aspects of an MMO today, and due to that the PvP and PvE will be stellar. You can build from there as the korean version of the game has already shown.

     

    Single most important aspects of an MMO today for box sales maybe, but I'm talking long term.

    Speaking generally here, but graphics shouldn't matter to you that much unless you're the type of guy that just has to show off the capabilities of his 6,000 dollar gaming machine, and even the best graphics become less impressive once you get used to seeing them on a regular basis.  For that reason alone, graphics should not be a major reason for devoting yourself to TERA.

    As for combat, how many MMORPGs have combat that's really different from WoW? By your logic, if they have good graphics, they should be a major success, only they aren't.  Why is that?  Probably due to a lack of endgame content, bugs, glitches, poor quest design, or a myriad of other issues which have far more impact on the long term success of a game than it's graphics and combat.  TERA"s combat is different from WoW, but TERA's PvE content is basically run here, kill x of y, run back.  It's basic elementary level quest design that doesn't even try to disguise itself in any way.  It's a step above AION, but it doesn't even touch the more popular western MMORPGs.  When people stop ogling over the game's graphics, will the game's combat truly be enough to keep people playing?  I doubt it for the reasons mentioned above.  Sooner or later that combat isn't going to seem so impressive once you get used to it and then TERA's awful PvE progression and only that is going to be staring you in the face.

    You missed the Fact that Tera has a no Faction system? that Guild vs Guid wars will be a big part of its endgame content. That going outlaw and killing people for lulz will be FUN? that the political system will pull the community closer?  And that crafting is still Usable at endgame??

    Im not playing TERA for the Combat, Im playing it for the Community Tools it has, and Hopfully will Improve on. And lets face it Im dead tired of Faction Themeparks that force you in one direction..

    For people that just want to get Entertained By the game Itself, I dont think TERA will be a good game. But for people hoping to make some sort of Community.. and love the fact that Player vs Player can become really fun in this game I think it can be a perfect Fit.... Sadly most of the younger Audiance were not with us back in the day, when the game was about community, the guild you were in etc... They dont understand the concept..

    Their looking for the cross server LFG button, the Instant Teleport to dungeon, and how many Timesinks(quests) the game has. Because lets face it QUEST are TIMESINKs... I think we should just get ridd of them..

    Pve who playes MMOS for pve? I have never undestood this to be honest. I play games to Build something Ingame.. TERA has guild housing, lots of guild tools.. That is what I want.. Could care less about the Quest, if there are RAIDs.. Urk I want to play against HUMANs not some boring AI.. and as long as TERA is balanced and its PvP stays top NOTCH this game will be fun..

  • Timeout77Timeout77 Member Posts: 177

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Well as someone who used to look forward to Tera, I can say I am not enjoying the beta, will not play after the weekend (or probably after tonight), nor will I buy the game.  The "pretty" art style reminds me heavily of Aion and a couple of F2Ps and I'm not going to waste my time doing boring quests with a hack 'n slash mechanic.  It's not different enough for me.

    Join a guild and start PvPing. TERA is not a Pve game.. If you ask me they should just Remove the Quests.. They are TIMEsinks you understand this right.. You have to puch yourself to max level and then start Fighting with other Humans to have fun in this game...

    Quest in this game are boring, but so is it in all other games, its a time sink you have to get yourself through.. Pure and simple.. If you play MMOS for Questing I would sugest you pick up a SOLO RPG game instead.. MMOS should be about Community and having fun with others.. not solo Questing in some dark corner of the world.. But if this is what floats your boat, then no For God sake dont buy this game..

  • Timeout77Timeout77 Member Posts: 177

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Faction less system, More Guild tools then most MMOS released in the last 3 years... Crafting can be used at endgame. Outlaw system and Political system... No loading screens betwen zones.. Being able to kill shit because you have the player skill and not because your Gear tells you that you can..

    But I will be the first to agree that if its PvE content and story you want this game is not for you...

  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911

    I took one look at the the half naked female toons and thought "do the devs think so little of us? Think I'll pass on this game".

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Member UncommonPosts: 1,290

    Originally posted by Arakazi

    I took one look at the the half naked female toons and thought "do the devs think so little of us? Think I'll pass on this game".

    I can tell you were planning on giving this game a real try.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Yea, it seems guys are more offended by women looking sexy than actual women. Go figure.

  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by Timeout77

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    One reason I am aprehensive about TERA is that I see 99% of the complements are based entirely on graphics and combat.  Once the graphics no longer wow you and once you become acustomed to the combat, what will keep you playing TERA?  Surely it isn't the game's morid PvE content.

    Faction less system, More Guild tools then most MMOS released in the last 3 years... Crafting can be used at endgame. Outlaw system and Political system... No loading screens betwen zones.. Being able to kill shit because you have the player skill and not because your Gear tells you that you can..

    But I will be the first to agree that if its PvE content and story you want this game is not for you...

    Faction less system?  Who cares?  Not many.  If anything people want 3 factions, not none

    Guild Tools?  Really this is a big factor for people?

    Crafting can be used at endgame?  Thats every MMO out there...some more than others, but all games have endgame crafting.

    No loading screens between zones?  Thats because they instance the zones off.  Myabe if they had loading between zones they wouldnt need to use 'channels'.  technology has its limitations and zones can be quite useful.

    Are you really trying to say that gear wont matter as muchas other games?  You are delusional if you think otherwise.  Hey guess what the number one factor in raiding in Rift and WoW is?  Skill and coordination.  If you think gear is more important than good teamwork in raiding you have obviously never raided at a high level.

    Political system?  That one looks cool, however it will probably be limited to the big zerg guilds.  Interested to see how it turns out though, and how much the Vanarch decisions matter.

     

    Im still laughing at gear not mattering.

  • AzmodaiAzmodai Member UncommonPosts: 154

    LOL OMG those reasons are freaking pathetic. Its simple, If the game is not American they all hate on it,

    You see SWTOR? Its a piece of shit compared to this but people still defend it.

    If this was a grindy game the people say "FUCKING KOREAN GRIND HERP DERP" now they make a really nice Quest based game and everyone screems "AAAAAAH QUESTS FAIL" see what they are doing? they simply can't get it through their heads that Koreans can make games just as good as NA. Closed minded people.

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  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,878

    Tera just has really dated questing mechanics. If Tera had a stronger questing mechanic it would be much better. I think they are also deviating way too far into "action mmo" territory, as alot of people who play MMOs don't actually play action oriented games. Twitch / action based combat has it's place, but I don't see an MMO like that becoming a success. I mean, you can't deny that pretty much every Eastern based MMO that has come over to the states has done poorly here. The combat animations rooting you in place and the PvP lag  (in duels even) does not help it's case...especially since it has been out a while already in the east.

  • teakboisteakbois Member Posts: 2,154

    Originally posted by Azmodai

    LOL OMG those reasons are freaking pathetic. Its simple, If the game is not American they all hate on it,

    You see SWTOR? Its a piece of shit compared to this but people still defend it.

    If this was a grindy game the people say "FUCKING KOREAN GRIND HERP DERP" now they make a really nice Quest based game and everyone screems "AAAAAAH QUESTS FAIL" see what they are doing? they simply can't get it through their heads that Koreans can make games just as good as NA. Closed minded people.

    Ive played Aion and Lineage 2 and I *strongly* disagree with you.  Very strongly.

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