No not the just the 50. It takes some thinking but do not worry about it but it's very telling.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I think ur wrong salenger, this guildwars 2 will have nothing to do with the 1st one, i also didn´t like much the 1st one it was based on pvp and not on the pve and it was not fun at all like most mmorpgs,but this one it will be a great game, from what i saw in movies you just have to try it.
To answer the OP, there are a variety of reasons why someone might not want to play GW2:
1) Maybe they enjoy games that have more endgame content aside from PvP. 8 Dungeons (despite AN's claim that there are 4 versions of each...yeah right) at endgame and no raiding might not appeal to people.
2) Maybe people still enjoy the Holy Trinity concept because they enjoy excelling at a specialized role within the group dynamic instead of the "everyone can do everything" approach.
3) Maybe they enjoy playing games where gear actually matters, and is visible proof of the time you put into a game, kind of like a badge of honor.
4) Maybe they aren't impressed with the very limited class customization system that GW2 presents, and like more choices in speccing their character and deciding what skills they can use at any different time.
5) Maybe they can't understand how a newly released MMO can actually not have mounts as part of the game.
6) Maybe they enjoy a robust crafting system, which GW2 certainly does not have.
7) Maybe all the ridiculous particle effects during combat that muddies up the action is a turn-off for them.
8) Maybe they don't like the fact that the UI won't be customizable.
9) Maybe the idea that you can switch weapons in mid-fight seems kind of immersion-breaking to them.
10) Maybe they weren't impressed with ArenaNet's first offering and don't trust them to put out a quality product.
I'm not saying everyone is going to have all 10 of these reasons on their list, or even that all of them are valid reasons to at least not try the game out, but not everyone thinks the sun rises and sets on ArenaNet or GW2. Believe it or not, there are people that may have different tastes in games, OP.
All of the above explain why i will not play GW2, i bought into the hype of GW1 and was overly dissapointed, great game for kids though as i remember 90% of the community being under the age of 18, and the no monthly makes it even better for parents.
But GW2 isnt my type of MMO, really not what i look for im more of a sandbox gamer.
But have fun with it.
I was reading my forums when some fanbois give me a link to a new Guild Wars 2 video.
Maaaaaan!!! Don't try to force your action MMORPG on me!
All of the above explain why i will not play GW2, i bought into the hype of GW1 and was overly dissapointed, great game for kids though as i remember 90% of the community being under the age of 18, and the no monthly makes it even better for parents.
But GW2 isnt my type of MMO, really not what i look for im more of a sandbox gamer.
But have fun with it.
Considering you call yourself an adult maybe you should have done some research. Make up your mind, is it an action MMO or is it tab target!?
It's a fantasy setting. I started playing dungeons & dragons back in the late 70s and, at this point, I'm sick of fantasy settings. No more swords & sorcery for me.
because guild wars 1 was a steaming pile of boring shit, and sequels are never better then originals.
Worlds most ignorant comment.
To the OP, I have been waiting forever to play this game and I never even played GW1.
No matter how bad GW1 was, GW2 seems to be virtually NOTHING like it in the negative sense.
I cannot see myself not liking this game unless they really screw it up on release.
This is not likely to happen though since they refuse to release an unpolished product.
I have been trying to advertise to all my friends that may have not heard about how cool this game is and how different it is, as well as to nay-sayers who just hate on it because they are ignorant or just are fanboys of another franchise. People need to experience this game!
Can't wait to see you in Tyria as well!
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<) Currently Playing: Tera Online
All of the above explain why i will not play GW2, i bought into the hype of GW1 and was overly dissapointed, great game for kids though as i remember 90% of the community being under the age of 18, and the no monthly makes it even better for parents.
But GW2 isnt my type of MMO, really not what i look for im more of a sandbox gamer.
But have fun with it.
Considering you call yourself an adult maybe you should have done some research. Make up your mind, is it an action MMO or is it tab target!?
Owned.
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my reason is pretty simple, the game lacks the ability to be a dedicated healer if i so want. go ahead and make a game where you don't 'need' a healer fine. but to take away the choice for people that actually like being the dedicated healers/buffers just doesn't sit well with me especially since that is my role in every game and I quite like that role.
I don't understand some gripes people are having. I'm excited for the game, but cannot tell the future and say for sure if it will be good or bad, neutral. That being as it is, some complaints don't make sense and it makes me feel some people are not fully informed.
The e-sport gripe is especially frustrating. Red and Blue is only in the arena type PvP and is in no way tied to WvW. Indeed, World versus World is akin to RvR in DAoC. You see the enemies armor, their weapons, their individuality, with only their name being changed to "Green Defender", color only being part of the name. You are auto leveled to 80, this is but a stat raise, if you are level 1 it will still reflect that. In no way could World versus World be an e-sport, so how does that fit into your negative? Arenas, yes, but they're highly specialized and fully ignorable that have no persistent hold. WvW, however, does have server wide benefits and lasting effects, I.E. A keep you captured will remain captured until reclaimed by the enemy.
Ten skills, this astounds me. Many times have they explained the numerable options you have at your finger tips. Swapping weapons is encouraged, that adds five more, don't forget chains which can add three, F1-F4 abilities which add four, elite skills that can give you a completely new set of skills, and other variables that do in fact add to your skills. This complaint is essentially that you cannot see all skills at once, cluttering your UI. Silly? Extremely.
Claiming themepark when so far it's been shown they are avoiding that. I have no idea how the game will be upon release, merely evidence that shows it is trying it's hardest to stray from the "Themepark" mentality. Dynamic Events encompass the entire region, with branches that set off by different factors and changing the experience each time. The randomization and involvement sounds nothing like a themepark, it goes against the very definition of it.
I am harping on the negative posters, as they have shown the most ignorance thus far in this thread. It goes on both sides, definitely, and if I were at true neutrality I'd of attacked both. Maybe I am a tad fan boy, maybe not, that doesn't change the facts in this post.
P.S. Don't quote the OP's entire post, that's just poor common sense.
Because I don't see the MMO (or gaming world) as innovative or not innovative, WoW clone or not wow clone ect ect, I see it as whats fun or what isn't fun.
With that thought process my interest in GW2 is rather minimal, you see it as a genre saving god, I see it as a game with no mounts or dualing. I more or less found my long term MMO fix in TOR (For at least a few more months) and at this point GW2 looks like GW1 did when I played WoW, a nice little game to play when I am borred with WoW.
Also I am not really caring about the first gw1 right now.
How can your interest be minimal if you gauge games on fun or not fun?
How do you know if it is fun or not fun if you have never played it?
Lol, this post made me laugh my ass off....
Why not just come out and say the truth without trying to sugar coat it with hypocrisy? (WoW Fanboy)
Just because a game doesn't start with something doesn't mean it will never be implimented.
Fact: 90% of the GW2 haters are either WoW or SWTOR fanboys that are afraid of the competition ruining their life.
(Yes, I'm sure their online experience is the entirety of their lives.)
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<) Currently Playing: Tera Online
my reason is pretty simple, the game lacks the ability to be a dedicated healer if i so want. go ahead and make a game where you don't 'need' a healer fine. but to take away the choice for people that actually like being the dedicated healers/buffers just doesn't sit well with me especially since that is my role in every game and I quite like that role.
That is like refusing to play any game because it may not have a warlock class in it. lol
If you can't have fun doing anything except playing whack a mole then I suggest you become a carnie.
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<) Currently Playing: Tera Online
i realize gw 2 is the it game of the moment, i also realize it has alot of cool things to offer. That said its another fantasy mmo in a market filled with fantasy mmo's
Try as u might there are very few non fantasy type mmo's out there , Fantasy mmo's dominate the market and if there is one reasona person wouldnt play or at least try it this is a huge one.
The one downside i can see with gw 2 is its another mmo set in a fantasy landscape.
my reason is pretty simple, the game lacks the ability to be a dedicated healer if i so want. go ahead and make a game where you don't 'need' a healer fine. but to take away the choice for people that actually like being the dedicated healers/buffers just doesn't sit well with me especially since that is my role in every game and I quite like that role.
This goes back to the payment model where they are not required to give you entertainment for your sub fee. I mean people captured forts in Aion because yes you could get your name on them, but there was also a VERY IMPORTANT instance to run in them. People went to Wintergrasp every 2 hours because of a raid it opened up. WTF is the point of Guild Wars end game outside of some story and some vanity gear.
Fun, that is the point. Unlike other MMO's where the only fun comes from a gear treadmill GW2's gameplay is inherently fun due to the more active combat and freedom in play.
Reply in orange.
Just to add on to your reply, I'm not sure the original poster realises that there are solid and concrete benefits to THE ENTIRE SERVER from your performance in WvWvW, as well as benefits for your guild specifically for capturing and holding keeps, etc.
On the PvE side, you have stuff like the shatterer, but the shatterer is still peanuts. The story line tells of the beginning of the second coming of the elder dragons. I fully expect that plot line to develop more over time with even larger and more epic fights... Raids are still there, they just aren't instanced on 7 day lockouts any more.
- W v W v W looks ok, but it is splitted in 4 zones where you have to zone again, there are no factions and the 2 week cycle and reset kills the long term motivation. Why fight for something that will be resetted every two weeks anyway ? Looks quite inferior to DAoC RvR
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the relics and stuff reset at regular intervals? You couldn't just hold them indefinitely, you had to go get them again...
Now this is the sort of thing that gets on my nerves. replying to a calm post that ihas no hate in it whatsoever with a needlessly harsh one. Now sorry if my opinions and what I consider 'fun' in an MMO offends you the topic asked a question I answered that is all no more no less, there was absolutely no need for your post.
Now on a more on topic note, There's also that I don't wish to join a game with a community so fanatical as the GW2 community I've seen throughout my travels over the internet thus far. they seem even worse than the WoW community (which I also avoid like the plague) this of course isn't directed at those whom are quite level headed
and reason 2 it's just another addition to the early influx of non-targeting MMOs which if history has anything to teach us, will fall by the wayside rather swiftly as other companies continue to improve the idea & design of such games. (of course a few note worthy examples of early games lasting to the future not withstanding as these are the exceptions not the rule)
and inded I did read that it specifically says 'no dedicated healer' also http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Healing as this also says healing skills are far weaker than the self heals almost serving no purpose so they don't quite fufill the role of healers now do they?
((for the record i clicked quote on both of these and it seems i must have deleted the quote by accident))
i realize gw 2 is the it game of the moment, i also realize it has alot of cool things to offer. That said its another fantasy mmo in a market filled with fantasy mmo's
Try as u might there are very few non fantasy type mmo's out there , Fantasy mmo's dominate the market and if there is one reasona person wouldnt play or at least try it this is a huge one.
The one downside i can see with gw 2 is its another mmo set in a fantasy landscape.
I don't want to argue semantics, but fantasy is too broad of a term, though I understand what you mean. It's plausible to not like a certain genre of theme, however, please realize that it is only skin deep and if you do not have a strong adversion to this atmosphere you should open your mind towards it. I know of a few who despise this tolkein-type style, that's ok, if you like modern/futuristic Secret World and Planetside 2 should really appeal. But I disagree that the MMO market is overly saturated with it, as there is enough alteration in lore to make it something of it's own. This is not mad libs where you simply change verbs, subjects, adjectives, but a legitimate story where there is more depth than a simple setting.
1. It's e-sport approach and everything that follows with it: Bad community, lobbies and classes being balanced for PvP. If you are mainly a PvP'er i expect you to have fun in GW2. I have put more time into Dota than any other game, but i want my mmorpgs to be mmorpgs and e-sports to be e-sports. 2 different games, 2 different ways to play. And did i mention the community in competetive games usually is crap?
2. The setting. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
Other than that seems like a great game especially since its F2P, have fun
Now this is the sort of thing that gets on my nerves. replying to a calm post that ihas no hate in it whatsoever with a needlessly harsh one. Now sorry if my opinions and what I consider 'fun' in an MMO offends you the topic asked a question I answered that is all no more no less, there was absolutely no need for your post.
Now on a more on topic note, There's also that I don't wish to join a game with a community so fanatical as the GW2 community I've seen throughout my travels over the internet thus far. they seem even worse than the WoW community (which I also avoid like the plague) this of course isn't directed at those whom are quite level headed
and reason 2 it's just another addition to the early influx of non-targeting MMOs which if history has anything to teach us, will fall by the wayside rather swiftly as other companies continue to improve the idea & design of such games. (of course a few note worthy examples of early games lasting to the future not withstanding as these are the exceptions not the rule)
I'm sorry if my post came off harsh, I have a difficult time with being empathetic and don't always realize when what I say will offend someone else. If you look at the link you posted, however, you'll see that some classes have many healing abilities. While weaker, they are numerous and really drive home that some classes can be support, which is what I feel you favor. I like being a healer, I find health bar management boring but being an essential part of the group thrilling. I think there will be plenty of room for people like us to heal and be better healers than others, they simply made all classes somewhat self suficient so they won't be waiting around for us all day.
I welcome the abdandonement of health bar management. At first I worried, as you are, that this will cripple us entirely. But support comes in many flavors, though this is not the traditional healer, I say you should give it a shot. By that I mean keeping an open mind, not paying $60 for a game you're unsure of, especially in this economy...
I think what we all could use is a bit of an open mind. That the game can be a huge failure or a ridiculous success and the shades of grey inbetween. Because we have not played, we have not experienced the long term, we have not met the true playerbase, it's all speculation - even with all of this information available.
Again, Karse, I didn't mean to be hostile. If you ever see "Astriir" or "Arnoagns" in an MMO world, it's me, and I'd love to group up with you and do some quests together.
NCSoft's involvement is for me personally THE biggest reason not to get excited about GW2.
Sure, I hated GW, but this is a new game and I'm willing to give it a chance before judging it.
Sure, I'm not into pvp and endgame is pvpcentric, but it might be good.
When I watched an uncut 'first few lvls' movie some time ago (think it was in 2010 so yeah, the game has (hopefully) changed significantly), I was SO disappointed. I saw a soulless game with standard and uninteresting gameplay. I saw conversations that didn't strike me as interesting in the least. This movie turned me off in a major way. The game looks awesome in all the edited footage, montages, enhanced scenes etc. But the real, unedited stuff.... same. old. crap.
All these things together though make for a RISKY game. It has too many things that can disappoint.
THAT, while I have looked into the game plenty, is why I am not excited about GW2. I'll try it though and that's ONLY because it has no subscription. If it had, I wouldn't even touch it with a 10 foot pole.
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I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I think ur wrong salenger, this guildwars 2 will have nothing to do with the 1st one, i also didn´t like much the 1st one it was based on pvp and not on the pve and it was not fun at all like most mmorpgs,but this one it will be a great game, from what i saw in movies you just have to try it.
To answer the OP, there are a variety of reasons why someone might not want to play GW2:
1) Maybe they enjoy games that have more endgame content aside from PvP. 8 Dungeons (despite AN's claim that there are 4 versions of each...yeah right) at endgame and no raiding might not appeal to people.
2) Maybe people still enjoy the Holy Trinity concept because they enjoy excelling at a specialized role within the group dynamic instead of the "everyone can do everything" approach.
3) Maybe they enjoy playing games where gear actually matters, and is visible proof of the time you put into a game, kind of like a badge of honor.
4) Maybe they aren't impressed with the very limited class customization system that GW2 presents, and like more choices in speccing their character and deciding what skills they can use at any different time.
5) Maybe they can't understand how a newly released MMO can actually not have mounts as part of the game.
6) Maybe they enjoy a robust crafting system, which GW2 certainly does not have.
7) Maybe all the ridiculous particle effects during combat that muddies up the action is a turn-off for them.
8) Maybe they don't like the fact that the UI won't be customizable.
9) Maybe the idea that you can switch weapons in mid-fight seems kind of immersion-breaking to them.
10) Maybe they weren't impressed with ArenaNet's first offering and don't trust them to put out a quality product.
I'm not saying everyone is going to have all 10 of these reasons on their list, or even that all of them are valid reasons to at least not try the game out, but not everyone thinks the sun rises and sets on ArenaNet or GW2. Believe it or not, there are people that may have different tastes in games, OP.
I can't believe people are still using "Because Guild Wars 1 didn't appeal to me" as a reason...
It's completely different from the first. Just watching a few videos makes that plain to see.
So people using that as a reason are either a troll or just too plain lazy to go on youtube and research the game a little more.
In a way I should be thankful that such lazy people wont be playing Guild Wars 2, I guess...
"The problem with quotes from the Internet is that it's almost impossible to validate their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln
I was reading my forums when some fanbois give me a link to a new Guild Wars 2 video.
Maaaaaan!!! Don't try to force your action MMORPG on me!
I threw it on the GROOOOOUND!!!!
I'M AN ADULT!!!!!
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
The Ignorance in this thread is of epic proportions
Considering you call yourself an adult maybe you should have done some research. Make up your mind, is it an action MMO or is it tab target!?
It's a fantasy setting. I started playing dungeons & dragons back in the late 70s and, at this point, I'm sick of fantasy settings. No more swords & sorcery for me.
Worlds most ignorant comment.
To the OP, I have been waiting forever to play this game and I never even played GW1.
No matter how bad GW1 was, GW2 seems to be virtually NOTHING like it in the negative sense.
I cannot see myself not liking this game unless they really screw it up on release.
This is not likely to happen though since they refuse to release an unpolished product.
I have been trying to advertise to all my friends that may have not heard about how cool this game is and how different it is, as well as to nay-sayers who just hate on it because they are ignorant or just are fanboys of another franchise. People need to experience this game!
Can't wait to see you in Tyria as well!
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<)
Currently Playing: Tera Online
Owned.
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<)
Currently Playing: Tera Online
my reason is pretty simple, the game lacks the ability to be a dedicated healer if i so want. go ahead and make a game where you don't 'need' a healer fine. but to take away the choice for people that actually like being the dedicated healers/buffers just doesn't sit well with me especially since that is my role in every game and I quite like that role.
I don't understand some gripes people are having. I'm excited for the game, but cannot tell the future and say for sure if it will be good or bad, neutral. That being as it is, some complaints don't make sense and it makes me feel some people are not fully informed.
The e-sport gripe is especially frustrating. Red and Blue is only in the arena type PvP and is in no way tied to WvW. Indeed, World versus World is akin to RvR in DAoC. You see the enemies armor, their weapons, their individuality, with only their name being changed to "Green Defender", color only being part of the name. You are auto leveled to 80, this is but a stat raise, if you are level 1 it will still reflect that. In no way could World versus World be an e-sport, so how does that fit into your negative? Arenas, yes, but they're highly specialized and fully ignorable that have no persistent hold. WvW, however, does have server wide benefits and lasting effects, I.E. A keep you captured will remain captured until reclaimed by the enemy.
Ten skills, this astounds me. Many times have they explained the numerable options you have at your finger tips. Swapping weapons is encouraged, that adds five more, don't forget chains which can add three, F1-F4 abilities which add four, elite skills that can give you a completely new set of skills, and other variables that do in fact add to your skills. This complaint is essentially that you cannot see all skills at once, cluttering your UI. Silly? Extremely.
Claiming themepark when so far it's been shown they are avoiding that. I have no idea how the game will be upon release, merely evidence that shows it is trying it's hardest to stray from the "Themepark" mentality. Dynamic Events encompass the entire region, with branches that set off by different factors and changing the experience each time. The randomization and involvement sounds nothing like a themepark, it goes against the very definition of it.
I am harping on the negative posters, as they have shown the most ignorance thus far in this thread. It goes on both sides, definitely, and if I were at true neutrality I'd of attacked both. Maybe I am a tad fan boy, maybe not, that doesn't change the facts in this post.
P.S. Don't quote the OP's entire post, that's just poor common sense.
How can your interest be minimal if you gauge games on fun or not fun?
How do you know if it is fun or not fun if you have never played it?
Lol, this post made me laugh my ass off....
Why not just come out and say the truth without trying to sugar coat it with hypocrisy? (WoW Fanboy)
Just because a game doesn't start with something doesn't mean it will never be implimented.
Fact: 90% of the GW2 haters are either WoW or SWTOR fanboys that are afraid of the competition ruining their life.
(Yes, I'm sure their online experience is the entirety of their lives.)
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<)
Currently Playing: Tera Online
That is like refusing to play any game because it may not have a warlock class in it. lol
If you can't have fun doing anything except playing whack a mole then I suggest you become a carnie.
(>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<)
Currently Playing: Tera Online
i realize gw 2 is the it game of the moment, i also realize it has alot of cool things to offer. That said its another fantasy mmo in a market filled with fantasy mmo's
Try as u might there are very few non fantasy type mmo's out there , Fantasy mmo's dominate the market and if there is one reasona person wouldnt play or at least try it this is a huge one.
The one downside i can see with gw 2 is its another mmo set in a fantasy landscape.
Indeed, they have made support classes for those that like healing and identified with your playerbase in this http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/combat/healing-death/ . A little bit of reading goes a long way.
Just to add on to your reply, I'm not sure the original poster realises that there are solid and concrete benefits to THE ENTIRE SERVER from your performance in WvWvW, as well as benefits for your guild specifically for capturing and holding keeps, etc.
On the PvE side, you have stuff like the shatterer, but the shatterer is still peanuts. The story line tells of the beginning of the second coming of the elder dragons. I fully expect that plot line to develop more over time with even larger and more epic fights... Raids are still there, they just aren't instanced on 7 day lockouts any more.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the relics and stuff reset at regular intervals? You couldn't just hold them indefinitely, you had to go get them again...
Now this is the sort of thing that gets on my nerves. replying to a calm post that ihas no hate in it whatsoever with a needlessly harsh one. Now sorry if my opinions and what I consider 'fun' in an MMO offends you the topic asked a question I answered that is all no more no less, there was absolutely no need for your post.
Now on a more on topic note, There's also that I don't wish to join a game with a community so fanatical as the GW2 community I've seen throughout my travels over the internet thus far. they seem even worse than the WoW community (which I also avoid like the plague) this of course isn't directed at those whom are quite level headed
and reason 2 it's just another addition to the early influx of non-targeting MMOs which if history has anything to teach us, will fall by the wayside rather swiftly as other companies continue to improve the idea & design of such games. (of course a few note worthy examples of early games lasting to the future not withstanding as these are the exceptions not the rule)
and inded I did read that it specifically says 'no dedicated healer' also http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Healing as this also says healing skills are far weaker than the self heals almost serving no purpose so they don't quite fufill the role of healers now do they?
((for the record i clicked quote on both of these and it seems i must have deleted the quote by accident))
I don't want to argue semantics, but fantasy is too broad of a term, though I understand what you mean. It's plausible to not like a certain genre of theme, however, please realize that it is only skin deep and if you do not have a strong adversion to this atmosphere you should open your mind towards it. I know of a few who despise this tolkein-type style, that's ok, if you like modern/futuristic Secret World and Planetside 2 should really appeal. But I disagree that the MMO market is overly saturated with it, as there is enough alteration in lore to make it something of it's own. This is not mad libs where you simply change verbs, subjects, adjectives, but a legitimate story where there is more depth than a simple setting.
My 2 main gripes about GW2.
1. It's e-sport approach and everything that follows with it: Bad community, lobbies and classes being balanced for PvP. If you are mainly a PvP'er i expect you to have fun in GW2. I have put more time into Dota than any other game, but i want my mmorpgs to be mmorpgs and e-sports to be e-sports. 2 different games, 2 different ways to play. And did i mention the community in competetive games usually is crap?
2. The setting. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
Other than that seems like a great game especially since its F2P, have fun
I'm sorry if my post came off harsh, I have a difficult time with being empathetic and don't always realize when what I say will offend someone else. If you look at the link you posted, however, you'll see that some classes have many healing abilities. While weaker, they are numerous and really drive home that some classes can be support, which is what I feel you favor. I like being a healer, I find health bar management boring but being an essential part of the group thrilling. I think there will be plenty of room for people like us to heal and be better healers than others, they simply made all classes somewhat self suficient so they won't be waiting around for us all day.
I welcome the abdandonement of health bar management. At first I worried, as you are, that this will cripple us entirely. But support comes in many flavors, though this is not the traditional healer, I say you should give it a shot. By that I mean keeping an open mind, not paying $60 for a game you're unsure of, especially in this economy...
I think what we all could use is a bit of an open mind. That the game can be a huge failure or a ridiculous success and the shades of grey inbetween. Because we have not played, we have not experienced the long term, we have not met the true playerbase, it's all speculation - even with all of this information available.
Again, Karse, I didn't mean to be hostile. If you ever see "Astriir" or "Arnoagns" in an MMO world, it's me, and I'd love to group up with you and do some quests together.
A thousand times: this.
NCSoft's involvement is for me personally THE biggest reason not to get excited about GW2.
Sure, I hated GW, but this is a new game and I'm willing to give it a chance before judging it.
Sure, I'm not into pvp and endgame is pvpcentric, but it might be good.
When I watched an uncut 'first few lvls' movie some time ago (think it was in 2010 so yeah, the game has (hopefully) changed significantly), I was SO disappointed. I saw a soulless game with standard and uninteresting gameplay. I saw conversations that didn't strike me as interesting in the least. This movie turned me off in a major way. The game looks awesome in all the edited footage, montages, enhanced scenes etc. But the real, unedited stuff.... same. old. crap.
All these things together though make for a RISKY game. It has too many things that can disappoint.
THAT, while I have looked into the game plenty, is why I am not excited about GW2. I'll try it though and that's ONLY because it has no subscription. If it had, I wouldn't even touch it with a 10 foot pole.
You messed up there...prepare yourself.