I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
Then your obviously not a PvPer, because we PvPers can do this stuff all day long baby!!!
I would say I am, I spend more time PvPing then anything else.
I just don't as you put it "Do this stuff all day long." I need vereity.
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
He's being paid off...
The opinion of one man and not any less vaild then mine. I have read enough on the game.
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
It seems pretty clear what those that are complaining are referring to, lack of raiding (to be precise, instanced raiding).
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
He's being paid off...
The opinion of one man and not any less vaild then mine. I have read enough on the game.
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
It seems pretty clear what those that are complaining are referring to, lack of raiding (to be precise, instanced raiding).
If Snaylor said he wouldn't play GW2 because it doesn't have raiding and he loves raiding, then that is totally valid. But really, that's not what he said. He said what I highlighted above.
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
He's being paid off...
The opinion of one man and not any less vaild then mine. I have read enough on the game.
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
He's being paid off...
The opinion of one man and not any less vaild then mine. I have read enough on the game.
NCSoft have got a lot of money to pay everyone off
They were also pretty thorough! They even paid off ZAM, tap repeatedly and the yogscast!
Basically, they've paid off around 500 journalists. How much do you think they'd need to be paid off each for them all to take the bribe?
Come on, i want to see how far this tin foil hat conspiracy goes.
If it was sarcasm, lol, once again the lack of tone makes sarcasm in text useless!
While looking forward to this game I think that like Bioware was with TOR the devs hearts are in the right places but come launch they are going to be hit with reality.
Actually more like we, the players are going to be hit with reality come launch.
Anet knows exactly what game they have made and what kind of game it is.
What is really funny is that Anet has told us again and again and again and again what type of game this is and some people just haven't gotten the message yet.
Bioware would like to have a word with you...
Seriously though the PvE crowd makes up a huge % of MMO gamers and I simply feel that Anet is alinating them when compared to you run in the mil WoW clone.
For me there are three reasons to play an MMO, Friends, Fun and Rewards. So far GW2 has 1 of thoughs 3.
No game pleases everybody, each game has its strength and weaknesses. So what are you saying, every MMO should aim to please ALL types of gamers?
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
Well Pvp is always my mode of choice since the challenge is usually very varied. I prefer that to the static challenge pve offers. As far as 4-6 hour sessions in the games I mentioned. I'm sure its happened at some point, but certainly not a regular occurance. Nor is it a regular occurance in mmos. I tend not to play for long stretches like that. That being said I had 2 85's in wow and 2 50's in Tor. I just get there at my own pace, I feel no need to rush to end game. ESPECIALLY when you can pvp before the lvl cap.
When you say GW2 lacks PVE content, you mean gear treadmill raiding right? From what I have seen it certainly doesn't lack quest content or 5 man content. So the only thing left that could be considered pve is raids. If thats what you enjoy I can respect that, but I personally hate that. I think simply that raiders will find a new game to make thier home. GW2 seems more aimed at casual pve crowd and the hardcore pvp crowd.
Wow arena was the only type of pvp that I despised. I realize Line of sight is a viable tactic, but when the arenas are the size of a lunchbox. It comes down to who can los who better. And that was incredibly lame. My fears where put to rest when i saw some pvp vids of GW2. Sure there is still line of sight battles, but the arenas are open and varied.
All in all I think your looking for a gear based expierience or a raiding expierience, you should probably pass on GW2.
I have more then a few games I have logged well over 100 hours on. As example L4D2, GW, Battlefield series and many more. I played wow for roughly 4 years and then quit. What kept me playing and coming back for more was the way the game played. It was fun to me, I had a mage and it was a blast. With the exception of GW which I'v been playing on and off since it came out. No other mmo held my attention for longer then a couple months.
People will most definately WvWvW the incentive is that its meaningful world pvp. If you do well you benefit every person on your server, i'm sure some kind of cosmetic gear upgrades will be offered as well. But If your only doing it for "what can i get". You probably don't like world pvp to begin with.
PvP in general can only be so fun for so long, I doubt you where playing L4D2 or Battlefield for 4-6 hour gameplay sessions like you would an actual MMO.
The same can also be said for LOTRO on the PvE side. GW2 has a clear lack of PvE content in general, and if it wasn't for DE (I think because of this people are going easy then they should on it) I would say this game is one of the worst games to PvE in.
I'm guessing you will dismiss this as just being a paid off ANet shill, but I wanted to let you know just in case you're actually interested in learning about GW2's PvE.
It seems pretty clear what those that are complaining are referring to, lack of raiding (to be precise, instanced raiding).
If Snaylor said he wouldn't play GW2 because it doesn't have raiding and he loves raiding, then that is totally valid. But really, that's not what he said. He said what I highlighted above.
He doesn't have to say it directly. I've seen enough of these types of threads to understand what people imply.
It seems to me that this game has plenty of stuff to do. But maybe some folks want the obvious carrot to pursue.
If Snaylor said he wouldn't play GW2 because it doesn't have raiding and he loves raiding, then that is totally valid. But really, that's not what he said. He said what I highlighted above.
You highlighted the opinion of one person and you could go on and highlight the opinion of many more but that's what they are, opinions.
We these people still be saying the same thing after months of playing them?
Don't be me wrong actually like the idea of dynamic events but to have them more or less be you'r entire PvE content block seems a little weak to me.
My guess is people will PvP for a while and exhaust whatever PvE content there is, then quit and go to the forums complaining that there is no end-game content.
The MMO veterans will do that, GW fans and people who enjoy the e-sport games No. I have my doubts with the WvWvW, after what i saw it really looks like Warhammer 2.0 or Doorhammer in the old days, it wont be full 24/7 so after a while we will find people hitting a door for 20 min and as a 3 year War veteran i know whats gonna happen with the gw2 RvR, and is not good, Why? is exactly like warhammer without the changes of the last 3 years, hope im wrong.
What pve content are you thinking of then? I mean there is the personal story, dungeons, exploration challenges and puzzles, mini - games. Plus there will be achievements and vanity items to pursue.
The only thing that is missing is instanced raiding and a clear path of power gear progression. If you are looking for those two things in particular than yeah, GW2 will be lacking for you.
If Snaylor said he wouldn't play GW2 because it doesn't have raiding and he loves raiding, then that is totally valid. But really, that's not what he said. He said what I highlighted above.
You highlighted the opinion of one person and you could go on and highlight the opinion of many more but that's what they are, opinions.
We these people still be saying the same thing after months of playing them?
Don't be me wrong actually like the idea of dynamic events but to have them more or less be you'r entire PvE content block seems a little weak to me.
What am I going to say? Yeah, they are opinions.
But you know, if I'm going to make any kind of educated judgment here...
I have opinions from probably over 50 or so people who have actually played the game and think the PvE is great.
Then I have the opinion of one dude on the forum who has never played the game, and has a bit of a "reputation" around here, who thinks the PvE is terrible.
I mean, really is there any contest here? Yes, I'm sorry to say that your opinion of the game that you have gleaned from reading things and watching videos is not as valid as the opinion of someone who has actually played the game first-hand. Especially since you are greatly outnumbered.
Anyway, as for me, I'm not convinced that GW2's PvE is going to be earth shattering. But I think it has a good chance to be really good at least.
It seems to me that this game has plenty of stuff to do. But maybe some folks want the obvious carrot to pursue.
This is more than understandable. For years MMOs were not worth playing without that carrot to pursue. It's sad, but the design of those games has shaped player expectation more then vice versa.
I have opinions from probably over 50 or so people who have actually played the game and think the PvE is great.
This really means squat at this point, I could find you 250 posts or articles praising SWTOR, AOC, WAR or anything else pre-release. IF these were single-player 50 hour games it might mean something, but they're not.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
He doesn't have to say it directly. I've seen enough of these types of threads to understand what people imply.
It seems to me that this game has plenty of stuff to do. But maybe some folks want the obvious carrot to pursue.
Whats wrong with wanting to work for something in a genre of games that you and I will be spending 100s if not 1000s of hours playing?
I would agree with you in the fun department if this game was more like GW1, a short leveling PvP only game where most people played for a few months then quit, only to come back when they got bored of their main MMO. GW2 isn't that they not only expect me to spend 90 hours or so leveling, but to continue to play the game with almost 0 Endgame PvE and instead relying on PvP.
Umm Id like to see all hypocrytes replies to this, why are all these games except wow are having retention issues? Thanks oh and what where the problem with their endgames, it was not lack of quantity either for starters. Thanks and take care.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Umm Id like to see all hypocrytes replies to this, why are all these games except wow are having retention issues? Thanks oh and what where the problem with their endgames, it was not lack of quantity either for starters. Thanks and take care.
Umm Id like to see all hypocrytes replies to this, why are all these games except wow are having retention issues? Thanks oh and what where the problem with their endgames, it was not lack of quantity either for starters. Thanks and take care.
There are a thousand answers to this question any one of them could be right or wrong. So instead of answering I'll ask you, which would you like to hear?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have opinions from probably over 50 or so people who have actually played the game and think the PvE is great.
This really means squat at this point, I could find you 250 posts or articles praising SWTOR, AOC, WAR or anything else pre-release. IF these were single-player 50 hour games it might mean something, but they're not.
That's true. But at the same time, there were a lot of more negative opinions about SWTOR as well. I have yet to see one solidly negative opinion about GW2 from someone who actually played it. If you have one, let me know, I would be interested to see what they didn't like.
Also, Snalyor says the PvE in GW2 will be terrible, but I see no actual arguments as to why. He just gives a nebulous "I wasn't impressed." That doesn't mean anything.
Before SWTOR was out, there was TONS of controversy on the boards from players who didn't like some of their design decisions, and provided actual reasons why.
Forgive my ignorance, GW2 will be my first real MMO, what is this "Endgame"?
I read a little further and actually do not know ...
Endgame refers to when a player hits the level cap. In GW2 case this cap is level 80. Tradionally in MMO's when you hit the level cap you participate in some type of instanced PVE with 10+ other players or you pvp with others at the cap if there is viable pvp options available. In other mmos the game usually changes radically when you hit the level cap. If you would allow me to use wow as an example. You quest to lvl 85, solo quests, grp quests, 5 mans. When you hit 85, you do daily repeatable quests, grind 5 mans for gear to do heroic 5 mans. then you grind heroic 5 mans for gear to do the T1 Raid, then you grind T1 Raid to do T2 Raid. Alternatively you can play battlegrounds(instanced pvp) to grind gear for rated battlegrounds or Arenas. End game in my expierience is ALWAYS mmo speak for gear grind. Though to be fair the gear grinds to come in different flavors.
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I would say I am, I spend more time PvPing then anything else.
I just don't as you put it "Do this stuff all day long." I need vereity.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
He's being paid off...
The opinion of one man and not any less vaild then mine. I have read enough on the game.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
It seems pretty clear what those that are complaining are referring to, lack of raiding (to be precise, instanced raiding).
Called it
!
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
People are so predictable.
If Snaylor said he wouldn't play GW2 because it doesn't have raiding and he loves raiding, then that is totally valid. But really, that's not what he said. He said what I highlighted above.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Tis was sarcasim
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
NCSoft have got a lot of money to pay everyone off
They were also pretty thorough! They even paid off ZAM, tap repeatedly and the yogscast!
Basically, they've paid off around 500 journalists. How much do you think they'd need to be paid off each for them all to take the bribe?
Come on, i want to see how far this tin foil hat conspiracy goes.
If it was sarcasm, lol, once again the lack of tone makes sarcasm in text useless!
I thought it was sarcasm... note the ...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
No game pleases everybody, each game has its strength and weaknesses. So what are you saying, every MMO should aim to please ALL types of gamers?
Dont hold your breath for that dream...lol
Well Pvp is always my mode of choice since the challenge is usually very varied. I prefer that to the static challenge pve offers. As far as 4-6 hour sessions in the games I mentioned. I'm sure its happened at some point, but certainly not a regular occurance. Nor is it a regular occurance in mmos. I tend not to play for long stretches like that. That being said I had 2 85's in wow and 2 50's in Tor. I just get there at my own pace, I feel no need to rush to end game. ESPECIALLY when you can pvp before the lvl cap.
When you say GW2 lacks PVE content, you mean gear treadmill raiding right? From what I have seen it certainly doesn't lack quest content or 5 man content. So the only thing left that could be considered pve is raids. If thats what you enjoy I can respect that, but I personally hate that. I think simply that raiders will find a new game to make thier home. GW2 seems more aimed at casual pve crowd and the hardcore pvp crowd.
Wow arena was the only type of pvp that I despised. I realize Line of sight is a viable tactic, but when the arenas are the size of a lunchbox. It comes down to who can los who better. And that was incredibly lame. My fears where put to rest when i saw some pvp vids of GW2. Sure there is still line of sight battles, but the arenas are open and varied.
All in all I think your looking for a gear based expierience or a raiding expierience, you should probably pass on GW2.
He doesn't have to say it directly. I've seen enough of these types of threads to understand what people imply.
It seems to me that this game has plenty of stuff to do. But maybe some folks want the obvious carrot to pursue.
You highlighted the opinion of one person and you could go on and highlight the opinion of many more but that's what they are, opinions.
We these people still be saying the same thing after months of playing them?
Don't be me wrong actually like the idea of dynamic events but to have them more or less be you'r entire PvE content block seems a little weak to me.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
The MMO veterans will do that, GW fans and people who enjoy the e-sport games No. I have my doubts with the WvWvW, after what i saw it really looks like Warhammer 2.0 or Doorhammer in the old days, it wont be full 24/7 so after a while we will find people hitting a door for 20 min and as a 3 year War veteran i know whats gonna happen with the gw2 RvR, and is not good, Why? is exactly like warhammer without the changes of the last 3 years, hope im wrong.
Forgive my ignorance, GW2 will be my first real MMO, what is this "Endgame"?
I read a little further and actually do not know ...
What pve content are you thinking of then? I mean there is the personal story, dungeons, exploration challenges and puzzles, mini - games. Plus there will be achievements and vanity items to pursue.
The only thing that is missing is instanced raiding and a clear path of power gear progression. If you are looking for those two things in particular than yeah, GW2 will be lacking for you.
What am I going to say? Yeah, they are opinions.
But you know, if I'm going to make any kind of educated judgment here...
I have opinions from probably over 50 or so people who have actually played the game and think the PvE is great.
Then I have the opinion of one dude on the forum who has never played the game, and has a bit of a "reputation" around here, who thinks the PvE is terrible.
I mean, really is there any contest here? Yes, I'm sorry to say that your opinion of the game that you have gleaned from reading things and watching videos is not as valid as the opinion of someone who has actually played the game first-hand. Especially since you are greatly outnumbered.
Anyway, as for me, I'm not convinced that GW2's PvE is going to be earth shattering. But I think it has a good chance to be really good at least.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
This is more than understandable. For years MMOs were not worth playing without that carrot to pursue. It's sad, but the design of those games has shaped player expectation more then vice versa.
This really means squat at this point, I could find you 250 posts or articles praising SWTOR, AOC, WAR or anything else pre-release. IF these were single-player 50 hour games it might mean something, but they're not.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Whats wrong with wanting to work for something in a genre of games that you and I will be spending 100s if not 1000s of hours playing?
I would agree with you in the fun department if this game was more like GW1, a short leveling PvP only game where most people played for a few months then quit, only to come back when they got bored of their main MMO. GW2 isn't that they not only expect me to spend 90 hours or so leveling, but to continue to play the game with almost 0 Endgame PvE and instead relying on PvP.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
EVE, LoL, CoD ?
There are a thousand answers to this question any one of them could be right or wrong. So instead of answering I'll ask you, which would you like to hear?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
That's true. But at the same time, there were a lot of more negative opinions about SWTOR as well. I have yet to see one solidly negative opinion about GW2 from someone who actually played it. If you have one, let me know, I would be interested to see what they didn't like.
Also, Snalyor says the PvE in GW2 will be terrible, but I see no actual arguments as to why. He just gives a nebulous "I wasn't impressed." That doesn't mean anything.
Before SWTOR was out, there was TONS of controversy on the boards from players who didn't like some of their design decisions, and provided actual reasons why.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Endgame refers to when a player hits the level cap. In GW2 case this cap is level 80. Tradionally in MMO's when you hit the level cap you participate in some type of instanced PVE with 10+ other players or you pvp with others at the cap if there is viable pvp options available. In other mmos the game usually changes radically when you hit the level cap. If you would allow me to use wow as an example. You quest to lvl 85, solo quests, grp quests, 5 mans. When you hit 85, you do daily repeatable quests, grind 5 mans for gear to do heroic 5 mans. then you grind heroic 5 mans for gear to do the T1 Raid, then you grind T1 Raid to do T2 Raid. Alternatively you can play battlegrounds(instanced pvp) to grind gear for rated battlegrounds or Arenas. End game in my expierience is ALWAYS mmo speak for gear grind. Though to be fair the gear grinds to come in different flavors.