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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Zekiah

    I realize you don't like my opinion and you have yours as well, that's fine

    The fact is, when everyone can be a godly hero, nobody is. It only makes you like everyone else, plain and average, which isn't the definition of a hero.

    There are hundreds of NPC's and if you follow the story line, an GALAXY full of people, who aren't heroes.

    Yet the PLAYERS are heroes.

    You ever played a vidya game?   You are generally THE HERO!

    Thats how it is in MMOs too.

    You're no better or worse than every other gamer, you're all godly heros, which makes you plain and average. Games of old used to allow players to be different and choose their own path, ie, they didn't have to be "heros".

    Shocker I'm sure.

    Meaning Sandbox MMOs of old.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You're no better or worse than every other gamer, you're all godly heros, which makes you plain and average. Games of old used to allow players to be different and choose their own path, ie, they didn't have to be "heros".

    Shocker I'm sure.

    So you are saying that other people having an epic saga storyline detracts from your experience?

    I'm sorry for you.

    There is an anime called Fate/ Stay Night, which is about EPIC HEROES of the past coming to life to fight in a grand tournement over the holy grail to be granted one wish.  People like Gilgamesh, Arther, Alexander the great all fight.

    So you are saying that when more than one EPIC HERO gathers it lessens how amazing the feats of the others are?

    because I know that is not true.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Originally posted by WhiteLantern

    Originally posted by Zekiah


    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Zekiah

    I realize you don't like my opinion and you have yours as well, that's fine

    The fact is, when everyone can be a godly hero, nobody is. It only makes you like everyone else, plain and average, which isn't the definition of a hero.

    There are hundreds of NPC's and if you follow the story line, an GALAXY full of people, who aren't heroes.

    Yet the PLAYERS are heroes.

    You ever played a vidya game?   You are generally THE HERO!

    Thats how it is in MMOs too.

    You're no better or worse than every other gamer, you're all godly heros, which makes you plain and average. Games of old used to allow players to be different and choose their own path, ie, they didn't have to be "heros".

    Shocker I'm sure.

    Meaning Sandbox MMOs of old.

    No, there were/are single players games like that as well. It wasn't always about phat lo0tz and r0fl-stomping like it is today.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • AdamTMAdamTM Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You're no better or worse than every other gamer, you're all godly heros, which makes you plain and average. Games of old used to allow players to be different and choose their own path, ie, they didn't have to be "heros".

    Shocker I'm sure.

    So you are saying that other people having an epic saga storyline detracts from your experience?

    I'm sorry for you.

    There is an anime called Fate/ Stay Night, which is about EPIC HEROES of the past coming to life to fight in a grand tournement over the holy grail to be granted one wish.  People like Gilgamesh, Arther, Alexander the great all fight.

    So you are saying that when more than one EPIC HERO gathers it lessens how amazing the feats of the others are?

    because I know that is not true.

    Not sure if trolling....

    You do understand the difference between PCs and NPCs?

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  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You're no better or worse than every other gamer, you're all godly heros, which makes you plain and average. Games of old used to allow players to be different and choose their own path, ie, they didn't have to be "heros".

    Shocker I'm sure.

    So you are saying that other people having an epic saga storyline detracts from your experience?

    I'm sorry for you.

    There is an anime called Fate/ Stay Night, which is about EPIC HEROES of the past coming to life to fight in a grand tournement over the holy grail to be granted one wish.  People like Gilgamesh, Arther, Alexander the great all fight.

    So you are saying that when more than one EPIC HERO gathers it lessens how amazing the feats of the others are?

    because I know that is not true.

    As was stated, when everyone is special, nobody is. If everyone is an "EPIC HERO" then nobody is, they're just average, like everyone else.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    No, there were/are single players games like that as well. It wasn't always about phat lo0tz and r0fl-stomping like it is today.

    Like what?

    Ultima?  nope those are all linear.

    Lands of Lore?  nope linear.

    Hmmm...

    I can't think of any at all...

    Daggerfall?

     

    FFXI everybody was a hero, yet no one complained about it...

    Look just because you are meeting up with Winston Churchill and Gandi, doesn't make YOUR personal achievements ANY LESSENED.  Heroes can meet up, and still be heroes.

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Zekiah
    You're no better or worse than every other gamer, you're all godly heros, which makes you plain and average. Games of old used to allow players to be different and choose their own path, ie, they didn't have to be "heros".
    Shocker I'm sure.

    So you are saying that other people having an epic saga storyline detracts from your experience?

    I'm sorry for you.

    There is an anime called Fate/ Stay Night, which is about EPIC HEROES of the past coming to life to fight in a grand tournement over the holy grail to be granted one wish.  People like Gilgamesh, Arther, Alexander the great all fight.

    So you are saying that when more than one EPIC HERO gathers it lessens how amazing the feats of the others are?

    because I know that is not true.

     

    When everyone succeeds there is no failure, without the possibility of failure there is no success.
  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627
    I think its great that Bioware is expanding on character abilities, this adds tons of customization in character progression, but as Sovrath has said, if everyone is special, than nobody is.
  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    No, there were/are single players games like that as well. It wasn't always about phat lo0tz and r0fl-stomping like it is today.

    Like what?

    Ultima?  nope those are all linear.

    Lands of Lore?  nope linear.

    Hmmm...

    I can't think of any at all...

    Daggerfall?

     

    FFXI everybody was a hero, yet no one complained about it...

    Look just because you are meeting up with Winston Churchill and Gandi, doesn't make YOUR personal achievements ANY LESSENED.  Heroes can meet up, and still be heroes.

    What does linear have to do with anything?

    And no, when everyone is a hero, nobody is. This isn't rocket science. If everyone has a "special" power, ie force-choke, then it's not special. If everyone could fly like Superman, he wouldn't be so "super" now would he?

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • FrostWyrmFrostWyrm Member Posts: 1,036

    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Teala

    For instance a Bounty Hunter will be able to unlock Force Choke.  

    Why would they do this?   Doesn't this totally go against lore?  Nope.

    well you remember Leia right?  Princess Leia?  Well her class in Star Wars RPG is Diplomat, she sure has a lot of force powers however.

    There are many many instances in star wars where people use abilities that aren't within their "class"

    Luke uses a blaster in episode 4, yet hes a jedi?

    When you roll a character in Star Wars RPG you can determan if they are "force sensitive" and ANY CLASS can be force sensitive.  That means you can slowly build and add some force abilities to that character as it knows some stuff about the force.

    Look at Mara Jade, shes a pirate, yet she becomes a very powerful force user and Luke's Wife.

    This is VERY Cannon.

    Ok - cool.  It just seems that it is wweird that a Bounty Hunter one day just bam...has force powers.  

    Not all force-sensitives become Jedi or Sith. I think its a cool idea.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    As was stated, when everyone is special, nobody is. If everyone is an "EPIC HERO" then nobody is, they're just average, like everyone else.

    again, simply untrue.

    Ok so we have Me, I'll be the Sith Inquisitor, I'm a member of the dark council and a powerful Sith force user.   then we have my friend, hes ALSO a member of the dark council, hes a sith warrior, and a very powerful force user, both of us have a lot of stories about how strong and powerful we are under our belts.

    Both of us are Heroes, and we go out and do heroic things together.

    This doesn't detract from our heroisim.  Rather adds to it.   Just because there are other heros around you does not lessen how heroic you are.

    Have you played Star Wars TOR?  I mean it really makes a lot of sense if you do a Flash point, as everyone in your party is an epic hero including you, yet it surely doesn't detract from what happens or lessens how heroic you feel.

     

    Again, there are a lot of people (NPCS) in the story who have very little or no power at all. 

    If your problem is merely that other players are heroes too... well then you are probably playing the wrong game / genre of games.

  • BarCrowBarCrow Member UncommonPosts: 2,195

    Wow. Can't believe some of the reactions. I don't think the will give you access to many other class skills..maybe even just the major one from each class. All classes seem to have have similar functioning skills so maybe they'll just allow you one of them as a swap..like flamethrower instead of your classes similar damge or AOE skill.

  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    Originally posted by WhiteLantern

    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Well, jsut because someone is "force sensitive" doesn't mean they should have the ability to wield it like a pro. Just becasue somone is a Jedi doesn't mean they are going to be a sharp shooter or gunman.

    You are confusing the idea of being related to someone = being able to be at the same level as they are in whatever skills/abilities they excel in.

    Another example would be:

    You can play a little guitar and can even pick out notes on a guitar to tune it. Your Father is Christopher Parkening one of the most amazing guitarists to ever live.

    see my point?

    Yes I certainly do, perhaps the Bouty Hunter choking someone wont' be as effective?

    Or perhaps the bounty hunter has praticed that single ability and has honed it to be as effective as every other part of their arsenal, as a bounty hunter I wouldn't want any weapon, be it a force power, or a gun, to be under prepaired for a fight.

    If ANYONE who has force sensitivity can train to better use it, how is it strange that a bad ass Bounty Hunter wouldn't work hard at mastering what abilities they have?

     

    Learning to play Guitar and being born with the knowlege of Guitar is different... I mean the force is a genetic trait, yet at the same time its only a potential, so that being said it would be up to the individual to go how far with it they can.

    There are a lot of force sensitives in the post Star Wars episode 1-6 expanded universe too, Luke trains people from all walks of life to use the force.

    There is a limit to how strong you can be though, right? and taking this into real world context I don't think Kobe Bryant would be as good a basketball player if he tried getting into playing the drums like Vinnie Colaiuta. My point beign, being extremely good at too many things is not something EVERYONE should have.

    In the end, we don't know yet how it will work. It could be that a Sith's force lightening is 5 or 10 times a powerful as a force lightening let off by a Trooper. That is how it should be, but I don't think that has been revealed. These "extra" skills could and probably should be more akin to parlor tricks that have some limited uses in context with those who are proficent.

    Same with a Jedi/Sith who can throw grenades (or whatever, just pulled that out of my...). If it does less damage or whatever, it is explained as loss from accuracy or training or whatever.

    Then what is the use of a jedi throwing a grenade if its going to be useless?

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  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    As was stated, when everyone is special, nobody is. If everyone is an "EPIC HERO" then nobody is, they're just average, like everyone else.

    again, simply untrue.

    Ok so we have Me, I'll be the Sith Inquisitor, I'm a member of the dark council and a powerful Sith force user.   then we have my friend, hes ALSO a member of the dark council, hes a sith warrior, and a very powerful force user, both of us have a lot of stories about how strong and powerful we are under our belts.

    Both of us are Heroes, and we go out and do heroic things together.

    This doesn't detract from our heroisim.  Rather adds to it.   Just because there are other heros around you does not lessen how heroic you are.

    Have you played Star Wars TOR?  I mean it really makes a lot of sense if you do a Flash point, as everyone in your party is an epic hero including you, yet it surely doesn't detract from what happens or lessens how heroic you feel.

     

    Again, there are a lot of people (NPCS) in the story who have very little or no power at all. 

    If your problem is merely that other players are heroes too... well then you are probably playing the wrong game / genre of games.

    You can mince words and stories all you want but the fact is, if every gamer in the game is a "special godly hero" then none of you are.

     


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    adjective


    being a particular one; particular, individual


    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by Teala

    I think its great that Bioware is expanding on character abilities, this adds tons of customization in character progression, but as Sovrath has said, if everyone is special, than nobody is.

    This is the last time i'll explain this to you guys.

    The force, isn't special.

    Whats special is the storyline your character goes through, thats what makes them an epic hero, not the fact that they have red hair.

    Not sure why "having the abiltiy to choak someone with your mind" is considered an abiltiy you guys think should be tightly controlled and restricted, if I had the force that's probably one of the FIRST things I'd learn how to do.

     

    Last time, having many people use the force or having 1 person use the force doesn't make anyone less special.

    Thats like saying Mace Windu was only special cus his saber was purple, then you ignore ALL THE OTHER things that made him amazing. 

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by WhiteLantern


    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Well, jsut because someone is "force sensitive" doesn't mean they should have the ability to wield it like a pro. Just becasue somone is a Jedi doesn't mean they are going to be a sharp shooter or gunman.

    You are confusing the idea of being related to someone = being able to be at the same level as they are in whatever skills/abilities they excel in.

    Another example would be:

    You can play a little guitar and can even pick out notes on a guitar to tune it. Your Father is Christopher Parkening one of the most amazing guitarists to ever live.

    see my point?

    Yes I certainly do, perhaps the Bouty Hunter choking someone wont' be as effective?

    Or perhaps the bounty hunter has praticed that single ability and has honed it to be as effective as every other part of their arsenal, as a bounty hunter I wouldn't want any weapon, be it a force power, or a gun, to be under prepaired for a fight.

    If ANYONE who has force sensitivity can train to better use it, how is it strange that a bad ass Bounty Hunter wouldn't work hard at mastering what abilities they have?

     

    Learning to play Guitar and being born with the knowlege of Guitar is different... I mean the force is a genetic trait, yet at the same time its only a potential, so that being said it would be up to the individual to go how far with it they can.

    There are a lot of force sensitives in the post Star Wars episode 1-6 expanded universe too, Luke trains people from all walks of life to use the force.

    There is a limit to how strong you can be though, right? and taking this into real world context I don't think Kobe Bryant would be as good a basketball player if he tried getting into playing the drums like Vinnie Colaiuta. My point beign, being extremely good at too many things is not something EVERYONE should have.

    In the end, we don't know yet how it will work. It could be that a Sith's force lightening is 5 or 10 times a powerful as a force lightening let off by a Trooper. That is how it should be, but I don't think that has been revealed. These "extra" skills could and probably should be more akin to parlor tricks that have some limited uses in context with those who are proficent.

    Same with a Jedi/Sith who can throw grenades (or whatever, just pulled that out of my...). If it does less damage or whatever, it is explained as loss from accuracy or training or whatever.

    Then what is the use of a jedi throwing a grenade if its going to be useless?

    There is a differnce between useless and less-effective.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You can mince words and stories all you want but the fact is, if every gamer in the game is a "special godly hero" then none of you are.

     


    spe·cial

       [spesh-uhl]  Show IPA



    adjective


    being a particular one; particular, individual


    So you are saying you aren't an individual?

    What about having force abilties detracts from your game play experience to where you think that makes EVERYBODY A HERO?

    The game ALREADY made everyone a hero, before launch that was like their main selling point...

    WoW talks about making everyone "the hero" all the time.

    Force choaking someone does not an epic hero make.

  • N1njaPwnStarN1njaPwnStar Member Posts: 83

    IDK. whats goin on with this game ive been playing it but more and more it just pisses me off... just today i fell through a pvp map towards the end of the game and it loaded me back into the fleet.. then i couldnt res twice in warfronts so it kicked me.. now i see they are gunna make the game even more of a pos to play by giving classes other classes skills?why bcuz they are to lazy to make new ones? lets just copy and paste everything just like they did with the pvp armor just add some diff colors and boom whole new set fml i waited for this game forever lol... now i know some of  these are just bugs.. but bugs that should have been fixed by now.. ugh im just so disapointed in the game right now..

     

     

     

    WTB guild wars 2./Archeage.

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Zekiah
    You can mince words and stories all you want but the fact is, if every gamer in the game is a "special godly hero" then none of you are.
     


    spe·cial
    ? ?[spesh-uhl]  Show IPA


    adjective

    being a particular one; particular, individual

    So you are saying you aren't an individual?

    What about having force abilties detracts from your game play experience to where you think that makes EVERYBODY A HERO?

    The game ALREADY made everyone a hero, before launch that was like their main selling point...

    WoW talks about making everyone "the hero" all the time.

    Force choaking someone does not an epic hero make.

     

    You can't make everyone the hero, you can pretend if you want, but your actions are no more heroic than everyone else's so you aren't the hero and that isn't heroism.
  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Teala

    I think its great that Bioware is expanding on character abilities, this adds tons of customization in character progression, but as Sovrath has said, if everyone is special, than nobody is.

    This is the last time i'll explain this to you guys.

    The force, isn't special.

    Whats special is the storyline your character goes through, thats what makes them an epic hero, not the fact that they have red hair.

    Not sure why "having the abiltiy to choak someone with your mind" is considered an abiltiy you guys think should be tightly controlled and restricted, if I had the force that's probably one of the FIRST things I'd learn how to do.

     

    Last time, having many people use the force or having 1 person use the force doesn't make anyone less special.

    Thats like saying Mace Windu was only special cus his saber was purple, then you ignore ALL THE OTHER things that made him amazing. 

    Lol buddy I know you are pointing out that the force is a trait just like beign red-headed. BUT if we humans had a trait like the force in real life it would be much more special than red-headed, even if there were many force users. If you have red hair you are the as usefull as someone with blonde hair, the same does not apply with force-sensitivity...

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  • KuppaKuppa Member UncommonPosts: 3,292

    Originally posted by WhiteLantern

    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by WhiteLantern


    Originally posted by Kuppa


    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Well, jsut because someone is "force sensitive" doesn't mean they should have the ability to wield it like a pro. Just becasue somone is a Jedi doesn't mean they are going to be a sharp shooter or gunman.

    You are confusing the idea of being related to someone = being able to be at the same level as they are in whatever skills/abilities they excel in.

    Another example would be:

    You can play a little guitar and can even pick out notes on a guitar to tune it. Your Father is Christopher Parkening one of the most amazing guitarists to ever live.

    see my point?

    Yes I certainly do, perhaps the Bouty Hunter choking someone wont' be as effective?

    Or perhaps the bounty hunter has praticed that single ability and has honed it to be as effective as every other part of their arsenal, as a bounty hunter I wouldn't want any weapon, be it a force power, or a gun, to be under prepaired for a fight.

    If ANYONE who has force sensitivity can train to better use it, how is it strange that a bad ass Bounty Hunter wouldn't work hard at mastering what abilities they have?

     

    Learning to play Guitar and being born with the knowlege of Guitar is different... I mean the force is a genetic trait, yet at the same time its only a potential, so that being said it would be up to the individual to go how far with it they can.

    There are a lot of force sensitives in the post Star Wars episode 1-6 expanded universe too, Luke trains people from all walks of life to use the force.

    There is a limit to how strong you can be though, right? and taking this into real world context I don't think Kobe Bryant would be as good a basketball player if he tried getting into playing the drums like Vinnie Colaiuta. My point beign, being extremely good at too many things is not something EVERYONE should have.

    In the end, we don't know yet how it will work. It could be that a Sith's force lightening is 5 or 10 times a powerful as a force lightening let off by a Trooper. That is how it should be, but I don't think that has been revealed. These "extra" skills could and probably should be more akin to parlor tricks that have some limited uses in context with those who are proficent.

    Same with a Jedi/Sith who can throw grenades (or whatever, just pulled that out of my...). If it does less damage or whatever, it is explained as loss from accuracy or training or whatever.

    Then what is the use of a jedi throwing a grenade if its going to be useless?

    There is a differnce between useless and less-effective.

    Again it all goes back to logical examples. Kobe Bryant is going to be junk compared to Vinnie Colaiuta in playing drums, not "less-effective"....

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Originally posted by Teala

    I think its great that Bioware is expanding on character abilities, this adds tons of customization in character progression, but as Sovrath has said, if everyone is special, than nobody is.

    This is the last time i'll explain this to you guys.

    The force, isn't special.

    Whats special is the storyline your character goes through, thats what makes them an epic hero, not the fact that they have red hair.

    Not sure why "having the abiltiy to choak someone with your mind" is considered an abiltiy you guys think should be tightly controlled and restricted, if I had the force that's probably one of the FIRST things I'd learn how to do.

     

    Last time, having many people use the force or having 1 person use the force doesn't make anyone less special.

    Thats like saying Mace Windu was only special cus his saber was purple, then you ignore ALL THE OTHER things that made him amazing. 

    Lol buddy I know you are pointing out that the force is a trait just like beign red-headed. BUT if we humans had a trait like the force in real life it would be much more special than red-headed, even if there were many force users. If you have red hair you are the as usefull as someone with blonde hair, the same does not apply with force-sensitivity...

    I married my wife because she is red-headed. Ask her.

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    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by Kuppa

    Lol buddy I know you are pointing out that the force is a trait just like beign red-headed. BUT if we humans had a trait like the force in real life it would be much more special than red-headed, even if there were many force users. If you have red hair you are the as usefull as someone with blonde hair, the same does not apply with force-sensitivity...

    If a lot of us had it would we think its special?

    No?

    Ok.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Last thing on the "But everyone can't be a hero" thing.

    Ok look, there are 4 stories per faction, each of those stories make your character a Hero.  That is what I mean.

    If you play through them, you do heroic things.

    Now after you do all these heroic things, having conquerored or freed planets, destroyed hundreds upon thousands of bad guys....   you go hang out at a space station with other people who've had similar experiences.

    Now after doing all these heroic things, are you suddenly NOT heroic?   Just because other people did it too?

    So in the Movie 300, how many of them were Heroic, and how many were just average?

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Originally posted by RefMinor

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You can mince words and stories all you want but the fact is, if every gamer in the game is a "special godly hero" then none of you are.

     


    spe·cial

    ? ?[spesh-uhl]  Show IPA



    adjective


    being a particular one; particular, individual


    So you are saying you aren't an individual?

    What about having force abilties detracts from your game play experience to where you think that makes EVERYBODY A HERO?

    The game ALREADY made everyone a hero, before launch that was like their main selling point...

    WoW talks about making everyone "the hero" all the time.

    Force choaking someone does not an epic hero make.

     

    You can't make everyone the hero, you can pretend if you want, but your actions are no more heroic than everyone else's so you aren't the hero and that isn't heroism.

    That.

    Willing to look past your "super hero averageness" doesn't diminish the fact that you're like everyone else which makes you plain.

    A world where everyone is a super hero is a world where everyone is the same, common and average which defies the definition of "super" and "hero".

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

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