It's not a terrible system, but it's a Dell. That should have been enough to keep you away, but you'll learn from your mistakes.
Dell Motherboard- 4 dim slots, 3 pci slots, 1 pci express x1 slot, and 1 pci express x16 slot
That's where you really went wrong...I just looked at a Dell this morning, just over a year old...3 days out of warranty the MoBo died. Kaput...not even salvagable. And it wasn't the cheap system either, for the time period it was made (Early last summer).
Good luck with it...you're going to need it.
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Firstly, your computer crashing 3 days after the warranty expired is unusual in almost any case, unless you're buying a car made by Kia. Second, there is one very good reason to not build your own computer: SOFTWARE!!! It's not cheap at all. Assuming you don't wanna hassel with linux, which anymore costs money, you can easily blow several hundred dollars on an OS, antivirus crap, word or similar product, and so on. Not to mention it comes with a warranty. Sure beats having 10 different companies offering 10 different warranties on 10 different components, all cuz you have a thing against Dell.
Assuming building a computer isn't exactly an option, as is the case for most people, who would you recommend? Alienware? Where you pay Dell prices plus several hundred for some black lights and a neat case? You congratulate that guy for not going to the store and buying an HP or Toshiba desktop.
For my birthday, my mother offered to buy me a new computer. She was thinking Alienware, but I told her that with the money it would cost to buy that, I could get one made for me that was even better.
So, I'm looking to buy/build a gaming PC that is would play Lineage II the best possible way it could. Please keep all computers below $2500 or so.
Lin2 system requirements:
CPU
Pentium 3 800MHz or better
Pentium 4 1GHz or better
RAM
Higher than 256M
Higher than 512M
Graphic Card
GeForce2 or better 3D graphics card
Geforce4 Ti or better 3D graphics card
_____________________________________ "Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro; Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore." -Machiavelli
Part of my job at the company I used to work for was product R&D and applicable uses. I've tested alot of it. and all name brands to. Best name brand I've tested are Dell's. (for PC's, IBM for Servers). Over the years the components they put into dells have gone up and the prices are resonable not to mention the software package that is equiped with also makes them a fair deal.. Unless you have all the software already. Solid cases and pretty tech support (although that stupid Dell plastic cover they attach to the case is flimsy garbage). Personally I'll stick to buying parts and building my systems myself since I'm picky about what goes in. But for those who can;t build it or would rather not, I'd suggest Dell. As for the whole INtel vs AMD, well I've tested both under all conditions, I didn;t like the P3's or the First 2 gens of P4's, but the new line of P4's are great. A little more expensive, but much better on heat control, and for video and audio editing. Not a noticble enough dif in games and 3d rendering to make up your mind based on those though. So if your getting a good cooler (doesn't need to be high end, just good or above), and not interested in audio or video editing and wanna save a couple bucks get the AMD.
Originally posted by shmig Firstly, your computer crashing 3 days after the warranty expired is unusual in almost any case, unless you're buying a car made by Kia. Second, there is one very good reason to not build your own computer: SOFTWARE!!! It's not cheap at all. Assuming you don't wanna hassel with linux, which anymore costs money, you can easily blow several hundred dollars on an OS, antivirus crap, word or similar product, and so on. Not to mention it comes with a warranty. Sure beats having 10 different companies offering 10 different warranties on 10 different components, all cuz you have a thing against Dell. Assuming building a computer isn't exactly an option, as is the case for most people, who would you recommend? Alienware? Where you pay Dell prices plus several hundred for some black lights and a neat case? You congratulate that guy for not going to the store and buying an HP or Toshiba desktop.
First, I never said it was MY computer. I build my own.
And yes, for a first time computer buyer a DELL is a great deal. Hell, the cheapest DELL package is worth it for the OS key and extras alone (HD, keyboard, monitor, etc.) and after that free LCD upgrade the $400/$500 DELL is an excellent deal for what you're getting.
Now, the fact that DELL uses substandard parts if they don't advertise it (try me...check a DELL's guts that advertises a bunch of stuff, and then look at the pieces inside that aren't advertised. They're a complete and total waste) can be gotten around when taking into consideration the usage of the computer...but we're all gamers, and we're talking about gaming computers, and gaming computers don't have room for crap. DELLs are also great for networking, I agree, because of the stable compatability that they have with each other. Now here comes the problem: DELL isn't the only company in the world that makes computers. The purposely "build outside the box" parameters wise so that users are stuck with them, and must go through thtem for upgrades. They don't use standard ATX cases, and they don't even use standard heatsinks and fans.
It's also been quite some time since DELL's tech support has been "stupendous", and it's also been quite some time since their tech support could speak fluent English. Not DELL's fault, completely, but it's one thing to not know anything about computers and have someone trying to explain things to you...it's completely different when the person talking is speaking in another language, or a fragmented version of the one you understand.
And for the record, Avast blows any other anti-virus software out of the water. I run it at work WITH McAfee, and the stuff that McAfee doesn't pick up astounds me. Yes, Avast isn't truly free...but I'd much rather buy a machine for its parts and put my own software on there than buy a machine for the software and have the parts fail frequently (as is the case, with addendum...I work at a telecommunications company, and one of our techs can't interface with a phone system because his DELL just died...it's brand new, less than 3 months old, and not the cheapest laptop they make...and it's not the first we've had problems with). I'm all for great tech support, but I'm more for quality parts that won't fail and need to be replaced.
Yet again, this is a gaming forum. The reason most people buy DELLs is because they're cheap (interpret that how you want). In this case, he could have purchased the same system for less money NOT going through DELL. While putting together his own system may not have been the best thing if he has NO idea what he's doing, Manufacturer's warranties are better than DELL warranties (and even with namebrands inside, DELL warranties void Manufacturers warranties).
I also want to point out that when you buy a Windows disk, you're not paying for the software, you're paying for the product key. If you were to call up MS and tell them that your OS disk was damaged or destroyed, but you still had the product key, they could send you a replacement disk for next to nothing. Having the disk without a product key is like being stuck up the creek without a paddle. The same goes for Office, Works, etc.
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Yes, ver easily...assuming that 500 pounds=750+ USD. If you've already got a monitor and other necessary essentials, it'd be VERY easy. Just tell me what you've got and what you're looking to do.
On the other hand...you'll have to get an entirely new comp if you've got a DELL...they're sort of hard to upgrade if you're not going through them.
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Well My 8400 got delayed sigh, so I cancelled, i want to build my own comp. Ive got the know-how and ive kept up-to-date with the best and worst parts. but the killer thing for me is i wont be able to pay payments if i build a comp for myself....well im off to hp compaq
j/p ..ive heard some pretty bad $hit bout hp comps
Im thinking of upgrading some of the components on my PC....and all i want to know is, is it worth doing or should i go for a 64-BIT processor and a PCI-E Card slot motherboard
Thought id ask here first as you all seem to know what your talking about All this will cost £868..so its my only upgrade for a hole YEAR Please give your opinions NO MATTER HOW SARCASTIC And if this looks crap its as its my first ever post and dont realy know what im doing
blah, I'm holding out for my next update. Waiting for mini-pci, sata & 1hgz bus to be standard. Other wise and parts I upgrade now won't be of much use when they do finally become standard. My system now runs fine and can handle every game to date with resonably high graphic settings. Don't think I'll be getting another FireGL with my next system though, unlike ATI's mainstream cards, once the make a new model for the FireGL it really shows how much they neglect the previous models. Where as there mainstream Radeons are updated regularly since they operate on a universal driver and it's thier bread and butter product.
I'm getting a new computer pretty soon, but I have not yet decided what to get. What I'm looking for is a Computer ment for gaming. With decent amount of RAM and harddrive space so I can keep alot of games on it but, still runs good. I also want a flat screen LCD moniter about about 16 by 16 inches. I want a good video/sound card. And a good sound system. My budget is 7,000-9,000 dollars. Do any of you have any suggestions?
for 7-9k$ you dont really need to worry, you can buy top of the line across the board..
I went mad over at alienware and came up with this:
[1] Area-51®
Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor w/ HT Technology Extreme Edition 3.4GHz 2MB Cache Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 PC-4300 SDRAM at 533MHz - 4 x 1024MB Keyboard: Microsoft® Multimedia Keyboard - Space Black Mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 - USB - Space Black Video Card: ATI RADEON X800 XT PCI Express 256MB DDR3 w/ Digital and TV Out Video Cooling: AlienIce Video Cooling System - Astral Blue Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 High Definition 6.1 Surround Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support with Onsite Service Productivity Software: Microsoft® Works Suite 2004 Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case (480-Watt PS) - Space Black Motherboard: Alienware® PCI Express Motherboard with Intel® 925 Chipset Automated Support: AlienAutopsy: Automated Technical Support Request System Floppy Drive: 3.5" 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive - Black Optical Drive One: Lite-On® 16x DVD-ROM Drive with Software DVD Decoder Optical Drive Two: Lite-On 52x32x52x CD-RW Drive Free Alienware T-Shirt: Free Alienware® T-Shirt - Black Display One: NEC 22" CRT Flat Screen MultiSync FE2111SB - Black Network Connection: Integrated High Performance Intel® Gigabit Ethernet Adapter Video Optimizer: AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimizer System Drive: High Performance - Serial ATA - 250GB Western Digital Caviar® SE 7,200 RPM w/8MB Cache Gamespot Complete: Gamespot Complete - Free 90-day Trial Power Supply: 650 Watt Max Power Supply Upgrade
[1] Free Shipping; On Alienware systems excluding peripherals - Continental U.S. Only
Dont really see how you can get it more expensive...
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Aye, but then it would be almost impossible to reach 7k$
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Hmm, How do I build a Computer for less money? (Don't know much about them) like where could I buy the parts etc. I need to know this stuff! Im interested if it saves me cash.
Well like Dekron said, you could probably get that same system a lot cheaper, allthough I doubt 3k cheaper. Thing is not only do they charge you for building it, but it aint at all certain they buy from the cheapest vendor possible. A thing you can do if you put your heart to it, fisrt step is to decide all parts you need. Lets say you use the alienware setup, now you search for each part and were you can get it cheaper, but unless it is close to you dont forget to count in postal costs, allthough many have free shipping within US. It is not at all certain you can get the exact same parts though, then you need to know wich are similar in performance and function. After you have gathered all parts then there is the part of assembling the computer, and it is not all that hard, I like to say they are like LEGO but thats not really true, but close enough.
I just figured you had loads of cash to spread around hence my suggestion, 7000$ is a crapload of money for even the worst gaming computer you can imagine, and alienware is indeed the top of the line and I only got it up to 5700..
Really the only thing you need to make your own computer is a little research, specially if you want to come out as low cost as possible.
/edit Violent, same advice to you. Look up the parts you need, look around for em and order em.. 2500$ is, allthough not as much but enough that you can choose a bit. Really the first thing you both need to decide is if you are going to get the XT800 or FX6800 graphic cards that are coming/recently arrived. I assuming both are gaming platforms so, after making that decision picking the rest of the parts will be easier cause you need to scale em to them cards=not as many options..
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Originally posted by ViolentY Asking about purchasing a new computer again For my birthday, my mother offered to buy me a new computer. She was thinking Alienware, but I told her that with the money it would cost to buy that, I could get one made for me that was even better. So, I'm looking to buy/build a gaming PC that is would play Lineage II the best possible way it could.Please keep all computers below $2500 or so. Lin2 system requirements:
CPU Pentium 3 800MHz or better Pentium 4 1GHz or better RAM Higher than 256M Higher than 512M Graphic Card GeForce2 or better 3D graphics card Geforce4 Ti or better3D graphics card
Hello ViolentY.
Of all the days I pick to go out on the town, lol, this thread gets hot again.
Let me see here, I'll see what I can do as far as suggestions. Most of the items you can get at newegg.com. Here we go:
It is hard to find either ATI's X800 Pro series or nVidia's 6800 GT series cards in stock right now, esp at newegg.com. Both cards are very good performers, about even on both benchmark and real world gaming tests, and you can overclock both, but you would want to most definitely add some extra cooling if you should do so.
Harddrive - Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM Drive Only $183.00 -$20 rebate = $163.00 X 2
This monitor has a very good, i mean very good picture for the price.
Total on system so far $1,923.00 + tax & shipping for pc with Radeon X800 Pro card
or
$1,873 + tax & shipping for pc with nVidia 6800 GT card
I would go with the nVidia 6800 GT card for the price. I was going to put a Gigabyte Radeon X800 Pro card in my sytem and oc it to XT speed, but I think I'll be getting the nVidia now and oc'ing it.
As far as the case goes, that is your preference, and there are plenty to choose from. Someone else here can give a suggestion on a case, of if you want, I can suggest some as well. You could get a case with a pwr sup or choose to buy a better one. I would suggest at least 500 watts+. If you would prefer an intel system or different AMD CPU, I can give you suggestions on that as well, but with building around socket939, you would be able to upgrade at least for the next 2 years if not a little while longer than that. As for the keyboard, speakers, cd-rw, dvd, floppy and other accessories, I usually rely on other's suggestions so If someone here wants to give it a shot.
If this sytem is too pricey for you in addition to the other items you need to get to complete your pc, I'll suggest a less expensive AMD cpu sytem or intel, whichever you prefer. This system would definitely run L2 and any game coming out this year and next with no problems at all.
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Originally posted by syroco Hmm, How do I build a Computer for less money? (Don't know much about them) like where could I buy the parts etc. I need to know this stuff! Im interested if it saves me cash.
Newegg.com is probably the best source online to get pc parts. They are usually among the lowest in price and are very reliable. If you do find lower prices, make sure who you are buying from. Newegg gets you your stuff on time, sometimes ahead of time at no extra charge, and has great customer service.
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grats!
but you would have saved atleast a couple hunded by building it...
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Dell? What is this Dell you speak of?
It's not a terrible system, but it's a Dell. That should have been enough to keep you away, but you'll learn from your mistakes.
Dell Motherboard- 4 dim slots, 3 pci slots, 1 pci express x1 slot, and 1 pci express x16 slot
That's where you really went wrong...I just looked at a Dell this morning, just over a year old...3 days out of warranty the MoBo died. Kaput...not even salvagable. And it wasn't the cheap system either, for the time period it was made (Early last summer).
Good luck with it...you're going to need it.
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Firstly, your computer crashing 3 days after the warranty expired is unusual in almost any case, unless you're buying a car made by Kia. Second, there is one very good reason to not build your own computer: SOFTWARE!!! It's not cheap at all. Assuming you don't wanna hassel with linux, which anymore costs money, you can easily blow several hundred dollars on an OS, antivirus crap, word or similar product, and so on. Not to mention it comes with a warranty. Sure beats having 10 different companies offering 10 different warranties on 10 different components, all cuz you have a thing against Dell.
Assuming building a computer isn't exactly an option, as is the case for most people, who would you recommend? Alienware? Where you pay Dell prices plus several hundred for some black lights and a neat case? You congratulate that guy for not going to the store and buying an HP or Toshiba desktop.
Asking about purchasing a new computer again
For my birthday, my mother offered to buy me a new computer. She was thinking Alienware, but I told her that with the money it would cost to buy that, I could get one made for me that was even better.
So, I'm looking to buy/build a gaming PC that is would play Lineage II the best possible way it could.
Please keep all computers below $2500 or so.
Lin2 system requirements:
3D graphics card
3D graphics card
_____________________________________
"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Part of my job at the company I used to work for was product R&D and applicable uses. I've tested alot of it. and all name brands to. Best name brand I've tested are Dell's. (for PC's, IBM for Servers). Over the years the components they put into dells have gone up and the prices are resonable not to mention the software package that is equiped with also makes them a fair deal.. Unless you have all the software already. Solid cases and pretty tech support (although that stupid Dell plastic cover they attach to the case is flimsy garbage). Personally I'll stick to buying parts and building my systems myself since I'm picky about what goes in. But for those who can;t build it or would rather not, I'd suggest Dell. As for the whole INtel vs AMD, well I've tested both under all conditions, I didn;t like the P3's or the First 2 gens of P4's, but the new line of P4's are great. A little more expensive, but much better on heat control, and for video and audio editing. Not a noticble enough dif in games and 3d rendering to make up your mind based on those though. So if your getting a good cooler (doesn't need to be high end, just good or above), and not interested in audio or video editing and wanna save a couple bucks get the AMD.
First, I never said it was MY computer. I build my own.
And yes, for a first time computer buyer a DELL is a great deal. Hell, the cheapest DELL package is worth it for the OS key and extras alone (HD, keyboard, monitor, etc.) and after that free LCD upgrade the $400/$500 DELL is an excellent deal for what you're getting.
Now, the fact that DELL uses substandard parts if they don't advertise it (try me...check a DELL's guts that advertises a bunch of stuff, and then look at the pieces inside that aren't advertised. They're a complete and total waste) can be gotten around when taking into consideration the usage of the computer...but we're all gamers, and we're talking about gaming computers, and gaming computers don't have room for crap. DELLs are also great for networking, I agree, because of the stable compatability that they have with each other. Now here comes the problem: DELL isn't the only company in the world that makes computers. The purposely "build outside the box" parameters wise so that users are stuck with them, and must go through thtem for upgrades. They don't use standard ATX cases, and they don't even use standard heatsinks and fans.
It's also been quite some time since DELL's tech support has been "stupendous", and it's also been quite some time since their tech support could speak fluent English. Not DELL's fault, completely, but it's one thing to not know anything about computers and have someone trying to explain things to you...it's completely different when the person talking is speaking in another language, or a fragmented version of the one you understand.
And for the record, Avast blows any other anti-virus software out of the water. I run it at work WITH McAfee, and the stuff that McAfee doesn't pick up astounds me. Yes, Avast isn't truly free...but I'd much rather buy a machine for its parts and put my own software on there than buy a machine for the software and have the parts fail frequently (as is the case, with addendum...I work at a telecommunications company, and one of our techs can't interface with a phone system because his DELL just died...it's brand new, less than 3 months old, and not the cheapest laptop they make...and it's not the first we've had problems with). I'm all for great tech support, but I'm more for quality parts that won't fail and need to be replaced.
Yet again, this is a gaming forum. The reason most people buy DELLs is because they're cheap (interpret that how you want). In this case, he could have purchased the same system for less money NOT going through DELL. While putting together his own system may not have been the best thing if he has NO idea what he's doing, Manufacturer's warranties are better than DELL warranties (and even with namebrands inside, DELL warranties void Manufacturers warranties).
I also want to point out that when you buy a Windows disk, you're not paying for the software, you're paying for the product key. If you were to call up MS and tell them that your OS disk was damaged or destroyed, but you still had the product key, they could send you a replacement disk for next to nothing. Having the disk without a product key is like being stuck up the creek without a paddle. The same goes for Office, Works, etc.
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Ive had a dell pc for 3 yrs now and have had no problems with it.
Dell are not best pcs for intensive gaming but they are not bad for a ist pc considering the price and reliability.
Was wondering would it be possible to upgrade or build a new pc which would be really good for gaming for around £500?.
Yes, ver easily...assuming that 500 pounds=750+ USD. If you've already got a monitor and other necessary essentials, it'd be VERY easy. Just tell me what you've got and what you're looking to do.
On the other hand...you'll have to get an entirely new comp if you've got a DELL...they're sort of hard to upgrade if you're not going through them.
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Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Well My 8400 got delayed sigh, so I cancelled, i want to build my own comp. Ive got the know-how and ive kept up-to-date with the best and worst parts. but the killer thing for me is i wont be able to pay payments if i build a comp for myself....well im off to hp compaq
j/p ..ive heard some pretty bad $hit bout hp comps
TbOmB
Im thinking of upgrading some of the components on my PC....and all i want to know is, is it worth doing or should i go for a 64-BIT processor and a PCI-E Card slot motherboard
WHAT I HAVE------------> UPGRADE TO
3.2 ghz -----------------------> STAYING THE SAME
1ghz(2700 333mhz) -----------> 2ghz (2700 333mhz)
Geforce FX5600 256MB ------------> Gainward CoolFX 6800 ultra 256MB(AGP x8)
PSU 300 WATTS --------------------------> PSU 550 WATTS (Antec)
Thought id ask here first as you all seem to know what your talking about
Please give your opinions NO MATTER HOW SARCASTIC 
All this will cost £868..so its my only upgrade for a hole YEAR
And if this looks crap its as its my first ever post and dont realy know what im doing
Don't say anything when you don't know anything.
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for 7-9k$ you dont really need to worry, you can buy top of the line across the board..
I went mad over at alienware and came up with this:
[1] Area-51®
Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor w/ HT Technology Extreme Edition 3.4GHz 2MB Cache
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 PC-4300 SDRAM at 533MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Keyboard: Microsoft® Multimedia Keyboard - Space Black
Mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 - USB - Space Black
Video Card: ATI RADEON X800 XT PCI Express 256MB DDR3 w/ Digital and TV Out
Video Cooling: AlienIce Video Cooling System - Astral Blue
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 High Definition 6.1 Surround
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support with Onsite Service
Productivity Software: Microsoft® Works Suite 2004
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case (480-Watt PS) - Space Black
Motherboard: Alienware® PCI Express Motherboard with Intel® 925 Chipset
Automated Support: AlienAutopsy: Automated Technical Support Request System
Floppy Drive: 3.5" 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive - Black
Optical Drive One: Lite-On® 16x DVD-ROM Drive with Software DVD Decoder
Optical Drive Two: Lite-On 52x32x52x CD-RW Drive
Free Alienware T-Shirt: Free Alienware® T-Shirt - Black
Display One: NEC 22" CRT Flat Screen MultiSync FE2111SB - Black
Network Connection: Integrated High Performance Intel® Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
Video Optimizer: AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimizer
System Drive: High Performance - Serial ATA - 250GB Western Digital Caviar® SE 7,200 RPM w/8MB Cache
Gamespot Complete: Gamespot Complete - Free 90-day Trial
Power Supply: 650 Watt Max Power Supply Upgrade
[1] Free Shipping; On Alienware systems excluding peripherals - Continental U.S. Only
SubTotal: $5,643.00
Shipping: --
Discount: $119.00
Tax: --
Order Total: --
Dont really see how you can get it more expensive...
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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33.333333333333336% of me is a huge nerd! How about you?
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Aye, but then it would be almost impossible to reach 7k$
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Well like Dekron said, you could probably get that same system a lot cheaper, allthough I doubt 3k cheaper. Thing is not only do they charge you for building it, but it aint at all certain they buy from the cheapest vendor possible. A thing you can do if you put your heart to it, fisrt step is to decide all parts you need. Lets say you use the alienware setup, now you search for each part and were you can get it cheaper, but unless it is close to you dont forget to count in postal costs, allthough many have free shipping within US. It is not at all certain you can get the exact same parts though, then you need to know wich are similar in performance and function. After you have gathered all parts then there is the part of assembling the computer, and it is not all that hard, I like to say they are like LEGO but thats not really true, but close enough.
I just figured you had loads of cash to spread around hence my suggestion, 7000$ is a crapload of money for even the worst gaming computer you can imagine, and alienware is indeed the top of the line and I only got it up to 5700..
Really the only thing you need to make your own computer is a little research, specially if you want to come out as low cost as possible.
/edit Violent, same advice to you. Look up the parts you need, look around for em and order em..
2500$ is, allthough not as much but enough that you can choose a bit. Really the first thing you both need to decide is if you are going to get the XT800 or FX6800 graphic cards that are coming/recently arrived. I assuming both are gaming platforms so, after making that decision picking the rest of the parts will be easier cause you need to scale em to them cards=not as many options..
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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That's the problem, I don't know what parts I need. :P
I know the minimum requirements, but I don't know what I should get. When it comes to the actual computer hardware, I'm not very knowledgable. :P
_____________________________________
"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Hello ViolentY.
Of all the days I pick to go out on the town, lol, this thread gets hot again.
Let me see here, I'll see what I can do as far as suggestions. Most of the items you can get at newegg.com. Here we go:
CPU - AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 3500+, 2.2 GHz, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - $497
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-463&depa=1
MOBO - ABIT "AV8" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 939 CPU $129
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-181&depa=1
RAM - Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Platinum Series (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) $265
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-492&depa=1
Vid Card - GIGABYTE ATI RADEON X800 PRO Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "GV-R80P256D" $459
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-125-135&depa=1
or
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N344-AX" $409
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-203&depa=1
It is hard to find either ATI's X800 Pro series or nVidia's 6800 GT series cards in stock right now, esp at newegg.com. Both cards are very good performers, about even on both benchmark and real world gaming tests, and you can overclock both, but you would want to most definitely add some extra cooling if you should do so.
Harddrive - Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM Drive Only $183.00 -$20 rebate = $163.00 X 2
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-160&depa=1
You've got more money than I do to spend, so get 2 of these. A fast and reliable hd, and it is a good bit cheaper that the Seagate drives.
Monitor - NEC/MITSUBISHI FE991SB-BK 19" SuperBright Diamondtron CRT Monitor - $247
This monitor has a very good, i mean very good picture for the price.
Total on system so far $1,923.00 + tax & shipping for pc with Radeon X800 Pro card
or
$1,873 + tax & shipping for pc with nVidia 6800 GT card
I would go with the nVidia 6800 GT card for the price. I was going to put a Gigabyte Radeon X800 Pro card in my sytem and oc it to XT speed, but I think I'll be getting the nVidia now and oc'ing it.
As far as the case goes, that is your preference, and there are plenty to choose from. Someone else here can give a suggestion on a case, of if you want, I can suggest some as well. You could get a case with a pwr sup or choose to buy a better one. I would suggest at least 500 watts+. If you would prefer an intel system or different AMD CPU, I can give you suggestions on that as well, but with building around socket939, you would be able to upgrade at least for the next 2 years if not a little while longer than that. As for the keyboard, speakers, cd-rw, dvd, floppy and other accessories, I usually rely on other's suggestions so If someone here wants to give it a shot.
If this sytem is too pricey for you in addition to the other items you need to get to complete your pc, I'll suggest a less expensive AMD cpu sytem or intel, whichever you prefer. This system would definitely run L2 and any game coming out this year and next with no problems at all.
"The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action." Hartley's 1st Law
Newegg.com is probably the best source online to get pc parts. They are usually among the lowest in price and are very reliable. If you do find lower prices, make sure who you are buying from. Newegg gets you your stuff on time, sometimes ahead of time at no extra charge
http://www.newegg.com/
Another good place to shop for cases and cooling accessories is frozencpu.com and pccasegear.com.
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/index.html
http://www.pccasegear.com.au/
A good site to read reviews and previews on pc parts is at anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/default.aspx
tom's hardware guide
http://www.tomshardware.com/
and theinquirer
http://www.theinquirer.net/
There are other places, but those are the best in my opinion. Good luck.
"The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action." Hartley's 1st Law