Originally posted by Djin I'm going to sell my current PC and buy another one soon. I want SATA HDDs, Nvidia 6800... 2Gb RAM, 64bit CPU... Another SB Audigy 2 ZS..
gimme gimme gimme, I will take it off your hands for free. No need to waste your time trying to find a buyer!
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Originally posted by DaShiz You should deffinitly consider getting a processor with more cache since the price difference is usually very minimal and can really reflect the difference in performance. As well you may want to consider buying an Ati X800 XT or Nvidia 6800 Ultra considering there price difference is minimal in comparison to the 9800 XT and as well perform at much higher speeds and double the pipelines that the 9800 XT has. Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
which one has the better cache? and about the newer cards, id rather go with a 9800 XT, i just dont wanna spend so much money on a card that will be obsolete in a couple of months, i mean COME ON! the 9800XT is still an awesome card! people shouldnt just abandon it and call it crap cause some new cards "pwnz0rz" it!
just thought id post the specs of the two processors im looking into. Any help on the things i dont understand would be VERY nice
Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading Core: Northwood <--- Dont know what the crap that means Operating Frequency: 3.0GHz FSB: 800MHz Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K <--- Cant figure out what the hells going on there Voltage: 1.525V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket 478 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2 <--- No freaking clue what any of that means Warranty: 3-year MFG Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan) Price: $219.00
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Core: Newcastle <---huh? Operating Frequency: 2GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip <--- its not integrated in the P4....*gasp* conspiracy! Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K Voltage: 1.5V <--- its a lil' bit higher on the P4 what does that mean? Process: 0.13 Micron <--- they got the same Microns!!! ...wtf is a micron? Socket: Socket 754 Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ <---is it better cause it has 3dnow? Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
Price: $223.00
So which is better? Personally... im leaning towards the P4, though id appreciate any suggestions, and Motherboard preferences for each. Thanks in advance for all the help!
Originally posted by metalfoxus just thought id post the specs of the two processors im looking into. Any help on the things i dont understand would be VERY nice Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - RetailModel: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper ThreadingCore: Northwood <--- Dont know what the crap that meansOperating Frequency: 3.0GHzFSB: 800MHzCache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K <--- Cant figure out what the hells going on thereVoltage: 1.525VProcess: 0.13MicronSocket: Socket 478Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2 <--- No freaking clue what any of that meansWarranty: 3-year MFGPackaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)Price: $219.00 AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+Core: Newcastle <---huh?Operating Frequency: 2GHzFSB: Integrated into Chip <--- its not integrated in the P4....*gasp* conspiracy!Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512KVoltage: 1.5V <--- its a lil' bit higher on the P4 what does that mean?Process: 0.13 Micron <--- they got the same Microns!!! ...wtf is a micron?Socket: Socket 754Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ <---is it better cause it has 3dnow?Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included) Price: $223.00
So which is better? Personally... im leaning towards the P4, though id appreciate any suggestions, and Motherboard preferences for each. Thanks in advance for all the help!
Alright, the Core code name ala Northwood and Newcastle for these two are names based off of the basic dye size setup and essentially a few other things, but really doesn't matter too much so don't really worry about it.
Cache is the CPU's onboard memory so to speak, for a fairly simple breakdown goto this Link.
Multimedia Instruction is basicly instruction sets that the processor can "understand" persay, for a fairly simple breakdown goto this Link.
Integrated FBS into the CPU is misleading there really is no FSB on A64 chips - just the memory controller, which does basically the same thing (control the speed of the memory, the HyperTransport does the rest of the FSB's old job, controlling the speed of just about everything else), essentially you would consider the FSB of the Athalon 64 running at 1000Mhz.
Voltage is just the power requirement needed by the processor to run at nominal speeds. If you overclock it you would have to edge up your votage slowly to compensate for the increase in power draw. the Motherboard usually regulates this, so don't worry just as long as you have a good board.
Concerning the 9800 XT as apposed to the X800 XT and the 6800 Ultra, there is a huge difference in power, speed and as well capabilities. Also, the 9800XT is still going for $499 and the new graphics cards can be pre ordered for that much at many places like CompUsa and Best Buy. If you would like to see some comparisons of the cards against the leading cards by both Nvidia and ATI check out this lLink. There is a breakdown of the specs on each card in the first graph and as well its testing graphs from games and graphic software further down the page.
Hope that all helps.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
thanks for the techie help . But concerning the graphics cards... i allready have full knowledge of those ^^ i know all about the HUGE speed increases in the X800 XT P.E. and the 6800 Ultra compared to the 9800 XT. I recently saw the 9800 XT for $299.99 on the ATI website, AND it came with a super-sexy hat . I'll probobly get that, then maybe put in the money for a new card late next year, when they are cheaper. But regarding the CPU's, im going for the P4. Thanks for the opinions by the way
Originally posted by metalfoxus thanks for the techie help . But concerning the graphics cards... i allready have full knowledge of those ^^ i know all about the HUGE speed increases in the X800 XT P.E. and the 6800 Ultra compared to the 9800 XT. I recently saw the 9800 XT for $299.99 on the ATI website, AND it came with a super-sexy hat . I'll probobly get that, then maybe put in the money for a new card late next year, when they are cheaper. But regarding the CPU's, im going for the P4. Thanks for the opinions by the way
Where on ATI's website did you see a 9800XT for $299? The only XT model that I see going for 299 is the 9600 XT and the 9800ST is still $499.
Edit: The 9800 Pro's are going for $299, but I'll continue to look around.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
lol, its right on the front page of www.ati.com Also, thanks for the help DaShiz... you truely are.... da shiz! (goddamn i need to work on my puns....)
I still only see the 9800 Pro for $299 USD and the 9600 XT under that for $249 USD. I think you have the Pro mixed with the XT, or the 6 looks too much like an 8 on your monitor.
Edit: O and thnx for the compliment! I was just trying to help you out, and appease my "know it all" ego.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
i was talking to my dad about water cooling and he said that back in the 80s he was working at some place and they had water cooling by IBM. Unfortunatley from them there was a leak in the system and the lost 10000s of pounds worth of computers lol. He said it was very funny.
if you want good cooling get a few of these http://www.thermaltake.com/products/dcfan/a1357.htm they are the absolute dogs bollocks. Have 3 of these on 4800 rpm and you pc will sound like a jet engine but my god do they shift some air.
I finally finished moving, got my pc back up and decided to see what I've missed over the past couple of week.
Gratz Murt on the 2000th post .
I don't like this dsl as much as my cable at my last place. It is still better than regular dial-up, but just not as fast as broadband.
Well, gotta go finish unpacking before this weekend. I'll catch up on the forums over the next few days. I'm just glad to be back on. Was going thru with drawls and stuff.
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I really need to rebuild my computer. I want to be able to play EQ2 but there is no way it could support it right now. I cant even play the trailers with out them being laggy. I can play SWG ok but according to the requirements for EQ2 I have to rebuild. Now just to figure out the pieces of the puzzle I need. What would be a good vid card that is under 200 dollars?
Radeons pack the most power as it is, but if you buy one you are possibly looking at some major compatibility issues. In my opinion the geforce FX's are overpriced for what you get, but usually they cause much less trouble with the BIOS of your motherboard.
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just thought id post the specs of the two processors im looking into. Any help on the things i dont understand would be VERY nice
Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading
Core: Northwood <--- Dont know what the crap that means
Operating Frequency: 3.0GHz
FSB: 800MHz
Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K <--- Cant figure out what the hells going on there
Voltage: 1.525V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2 <--- No freaking clue what any of that means
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
Price: $219.00
AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Core: Newcastle <---huh?
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip <--- its not integrated in the P4....*gasp* conspiracy!
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.5V <--- its a lil' bit higher on the P4 what does that mean?
Process: 0.13 Micron <--- they got the same Microns!!! ...wtf is a micron?
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ <---is it better cause it has 3dnow?
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)
Price: $223.00
So which is better? Personally... im leaning towards the P4, though id appreciate any suggestions, and Motherboard preferences for each. Thanks in advance for all the help!
Alright, the Core code name ala Northwood and Newcastle for these two are names based off of the basic dye size setup and essentially a few other things, but really doesn't matter too much so don't really worry about it.
Cache is the CPU's onboard memory so to speak, for a fairly simple breakdown goto this Link.
Multimedia Instruction is basicly instruction sets that the processor can "understand" persay, for a fairly simple breakdown goto this Link.
Integrated FBS into the CPU is misleading there really is no FSB on A64 chips - just the memory controller, which does basically the same thing (control the speed of the memory, the HyperTransport does the rest of the FSB's old job, controlling the speed of just about everything else), essentially you would consider the FSB of the Athalon 64 running at 1000Mhz.
Voltage is just the power requirement needed by the processor to run at nominal speeds. If you overclock it you would have to edge up your votage slowly to compensate for the increase in power draw. the Motherboard usually regulates this, so don't worry just as long as you have a good board.
Concerning the 9800 XT as apposed to the X800 XT and the 6800 Ultra, there is a huge difference in power, speed and as well capabilities. Also, the 9800XT is still going for $499 and the new graphics cards can be pre ordered for that much at many places like CompUsa and Best Buy. If you would like to see some comparisons of the cards against the leading cards by both Nvidia and ATI check out this lLink. There is a breakdown of the specs on each card in the first graph and as well its testing graphs from games and graphic software further down the page.
Hope that all helps.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Where on ATI's website did you see a 9800XT for $299? The only XT model that I see going for 299 is the 9600 XT and the 9800ST is still $499.
Edit: The 9800 Pro's are going for $299, but I'll continue to look around.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
I still only see the 9800 Pro for $299 USD and the 9600 XT under that for $249 USD. I think you have the Pro mixed with the XT, or the 6 looks too much like an 8 on your monitor.
Edit: O and thnx for the compliment! I was just trying to help you out, and appease my "know it all" ego.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
AH HA! Ego scores again!
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
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Soon...
I will talk the talk... but I will get it. Look at my current setup. . .
What will he do next?
i was thinking about getting it, (my pc is so freaking loud)
but then i could fry my system easily if I don't maintain it properly
and installing it I could mess up and screw the parts also
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niiice, i just have 3 of those $9.99 led case fans and a double fan card, and a psu fan, and a big heatsink, and a fan on my radeon 9800xt...
i think i have room to make more noise
(joke)
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uhm..this thread just lost 48 posts or the site doesn't know how to count...?
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Hey!
I made the first post in this thread, made the 2000th
BUT
as you can see on my post above it says we lost 48 posts...but now it says we're back...but then it says it only has 1950
either way i made the 2000th post alright!
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Hello everyone!
I finally finished moving, got my pc back up and decided to see what I've missed over the past couple of week.
Gratz Murt on the 2000th post
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I don't like this dsl as much as my cable at my last place. It is still better than regular dial-up, but just not as fast as broadband.
Well, gotta go finish unpacking before this weekend. I'll catch up on the forums over the next few days. I'm just glad to be back on. Was going thru with drawls and stuff.
"The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action." Hartley's 1st Law
Radeons pack the most power as it is, but if you buy one you are possibly looking at some major compatibility issues. In my opinion the geforce FX's are overpriced for what you get, but usually they cause much less trouble with the BIOS of your motherboard.
I have heard that too...
thank you
Now I need to look into a new mother board but I already posted on that and looking into what I want and the processor I need