BW still say Subs for Tor Have Not Dropped

Ice-Queen

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/23/bioware-doing-anything-and-everything-to-keep-players-logging-in-to-swtor/

I believe they're in denial myself but there's the article.

Zylaxx

Total Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I jsut logged on, Primetime and on the Empire side there were 67 people in the Fleet and on Republic side there were 43.  Even a month ago there was 100+ per side so I call shenanigans on Biofail.

Ice-Queen

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Total Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I jsut logged on, Primetime and on the Empire side there were 67 people in the Fleet and on Republic side there were 43.  Even a month ago there was 100+ per side so I call shenanigans on Biofail.

Aye, it's kinda sad when someone playing Tor gets excited if they see over 100 in the fleet area. Even at release and a month out, playing on Jung Ma, I rarely ever ran into anyone while leveling several 50's. I would see maybe 1-10 people on any given planet after the starting area. It felt like I was playing all alone so I didn't give them any more mula. I really tried to give them a chance.

Lexin

They are clearly hitting the pipe.

Drakxii

Of course it didn't when they gave anyone who might have wanted to quit 30 free days.

Ice-Queen

“To that end, more variety in daily quests is also a priority. “

Seriously? More boring, daily grinds? I can't believe they think quest grinding is a priority for end game. Ughhh

Games888

free to play = sub too now I guess.

 

 

Comaf

Originally posted by Tayah

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/23/bioware-doing-anything-and-everything-to-keep-players-logging-in-to-swtor/

I believe they're in denial myself but there's the article.

Forget SW:ToR, I saw your sig:

 

DAoC Guin forever!  Armyn Ab Treanid! Rhiadan! Vae Victis.  And God bless Granarc, rest in peace friend.  Companies like Bioware don't have  a clue as to how to create the type of mmorpg and community we had on that server.

Ice-Queen

Originally posted by Comaf

 

Forget SW:ToR, I saw your sig:

 

DAoC Guin forever!  Armyn Ab Treanid! Rhiadan! Vae Victis.  And God bless Granarc, rest in peace friend.  Companies like Bioware don't have  a clue as to how to create the type of mmorpg and community we had on that server.

Reckoning Member here from Mid/Guin .. Good to see another Guinevere member!

Kakkzooka

Ice-Queen

Originally posted by Kakkzooka

Made me laugh.

Kabaal

2 instances of the fleet tonight so my server is on the up... but, their free 30 days thing is worked to encourage people to pony up for another month before the 25th when they don't have to. Their billing system is messed up atm also, i cancelled mine a couple of weeks ago and should have run out on the 19th but it's still active and playable with no paid time on it and the free 30 days hasn't been added yet.

DeaconX

If they say so... I wish them the best and all.  Still sad this game didn't turn out to be anywhere near the Star Wars experience I had been dreaming of for an MMORPG but ah well.  Glad someone's enjoying it enough.

TeknoBug

Betting that they're counting the free weekend accounts.

Ryukan

This the same Bioware that said months ago they were implementing anti-aliasing only to add in the graphic toggle for it and not actually implement it? The same Bioware that waited until the last moment before announcing that Ranked Warzone's weren't gonna be in 1.2? The same Bioware that promised living, breathing worlds?

Sorry, I just don't trust anything they claim at this point.

Ramanadjinn

Originally posted by DeaconX

If they say so... I wish them the best and all.  Still sad this game didn't turn out to be anywhere near the Star Wars experience I had been dreaming of for an MMORPG but ah well.  Glad someone's enjoying it enough.

 

wasn't what i expected either, but i still had a lot of fun with it.

was a great game to go from 1-50 in, even a couple of different characters.  being story based i thought it had a great base and i've recommended it to friends for that.

i have a hard time believing though that it would retain the majority of its subs once that story aspect of the game is exhausted, and really how long can that take?  to echo the above post, more power to those who are finding it fun once the story is gone.

Jakard

Originally posted by Ryukan

This the same Bioware that said months ago they were implementing anti-aliasing only to add in the graphic toggle for it and not actually implement it? The same Bioware that waited until the last moment before announcing that Ranked Warzone's weren't gonna be in 1.2? The same Bioware that promised living, breathing worlds?

Sorry, I just don't trust anything they claim at this point.

Just out of curiosity, what were your expecatations for a living, breathing world?

DeaconX

Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

Originally posted by DeaconX

If they say so... I wish them the best and all.  Still sad this game didn't turn out to be anywhere near the Star Wars experience I had been dreaming of for an MMORPG but ah well.  Glad someone's enjoying it enough.

 

wasn't what i expected either, but i still had a lot of fun with it.

was a great game to go from 1-50 in, even a couple of different characters.  being story based i thought it had a great base and i've recommended it to friends for that.

i have a hard time believing though that it would retain the majority of its subs once that story aspect of the game is exhausted, and really how long can that take?  to echo the above post, more power to those who are finding it fun once the story is gone.

I can say completely honestly that of the over 20 people I knew who got the game, only ONE still plays.

Sora2810

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

Originally posted by DeaconX

If they say so... I wish them the best and all.  Still sad this game didn't turn out to be anywhere near the Star Wars experience I had been dreaming of for an MMORPG but ah well.  Glad someone's enjoying it enough.

 

wasn't what i expected either, but i still had a lot of fun with it.

was a great game to go from 1-50 in, even a couple of different characters.  being story based i thought it had a great base and i've recommended it to friends for that.

i have a hard time believing though that it would retain the majority of its subs once that story aspect of the game is exhausted, and really how long can that take?  to echo the above post, more power to those who are finding it fun once the story is gone.

I can say completely honestly that of the over 20 people I knew who got the game, only ONE still plays.

I've followed the game since December 2008, I've beaten TOR's drums for 4'ish years. I regret wasting those years. My six month should run out soon. -1 sub.

erictlewis

What has happened is they reactivated all the folks who had canceled and counted those subs, even though it was a free 30 days.

On Taro Blood prime time tonight, 62 in fleet on empire, 48 republic.

I can say before 1.2 the guild that I was in that just fell apart, was running operations 5 nights a week before 1.2 now only has 2 active members after the wife and I just left the guild.

I'm sure it is like that all over,  We have 6 month subs plus the extra 30 days after that its all over but the crying.

Bioware got to be crazy to say their subs are not falling.  I know 12 folks who canceled 3 days after 1.2 was released in the guild we were in.

 

alancode

Originally posted by Sora2810

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

Originally posted by DeaconX

If they say so... I wish them the best and all.  Still sad this game didn't turn out to be anywhere near the Star Wars experience I had been dreaming of for an MMORPG but ah well.  Glad someone's enjoying it enough.

 

wasn't what i expected either, but i still had a lot of fun with it.

was a great game to go from 1-50 in, even a couple of different characters.  being story based i thought it had a great base and i've recommended it to friends for that.

i have a hard time believing though that it would retain the majority of its subs once that story aspect of the game is exhausted, and really how long can that take?  to echo the above post, more power to those who are finding it fun once the story is gone.

I can say completely honestly that of the over 20 people I knew who got the game, only ONE still plays.

I've followed the game since December 2008, I've beaten TOR's drums for 4'ish years. I regret wasting those years. My six month should run out soon. -1 sub.

Same here, and I don't regret it..I am sad that it didn't even live up to me..who loved everything about it in the beggining. 

prizm1234

subs may not have dropped, but active players sure as hell have dropped significantly.

yes i am still playing, and yes I am what some would term a defender of the game. but the truth speaks for itself, there is a large decrease in the number of people actually logging in and playing the game from where it was a couple of months ago.

alancode

I have payed 15 a month since the game started and don't plan on unsubscribing, but I took a 2 month break already. 

PyrateLV

Of course subscriber number havent dropped since they keep having Free Weekends, 25 Friend Invites, 30day/7day Free. Even those that have cancelled still have active accounts

Bioware wont let anybody leave.

 

FrodoFragins

I have no idea how a game that has lost so many concurrent players has maintained their subscription rates.

Ryukan

Originally posted by Jakard

Originally posted by Ryukan

This the same Bioware that said months ago they were implementing anti-aliasing only to add in the graphic toggle for it and not actually implement it? The same Bioware that waited until the last moment before announcing that Ranked Warzone's weren't gonna be in 1.2? The same Bioware that promised living, breathing worlds?

Sorry, I just don't trust anything they claim at this point.

Just out of curiosity, what were your expecatations for a living, breathing world?

I can't say I had a real vision of a living, breathing world for SWTOR, but the gameworld as it is feels fairly static and copy paste in places...it's hard to describe. It's more like a feeling of lack of immersion.

The lack of day/night cycle is one issue; having spent a lot of time in games like Asheron's Call, Star Wars Galaxies and LotRO which all have day/night cycles I notice the lack of it and how it detracts from the level of immersion.

In places I notice groups of npc's that are entirely identical in appearance and I'm not just referring to groups of soldiers or other NPCs wearing full armor suits that would look similar; I'm referring to NPC's with physical appearances that make them look like clones. One example of this is right at the beginning of the Tython starter area, the same two character models are copy pasted for 80% of the npc's in this area. I noticed this same thing repeatedly during the course of the gameplay to 50.

The grindy nature of the end game does not help add any immersion or dynamics to the gameworld,

Elements of the game engine that could add to the visual immersion of the gameworld are pretty poor; shadow effects are bad, the draw distance on things like grass is really poor, the shaders act questionably at times especially during cutscenes.

On planets like Hoth and Tatooine there is almost zero significant weather effects. I at least expected to see some serious snow storms rage across the surface of Hoth while questing around there, but I guess we were experiencing what passed for Hoth's "temperate" zones hehe.

I hope I don't come across like I hate the game, I don't. I enjoyed the game at first and I am still playing through some of the storylines, but many in my Republic guild chapter have quit and the end game is pretty boring for me, especially the PvP. I feel the gameworld lacks dynamics and graphical flair to make it feel more immersive and "alive".