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Hm,I did see cooler animations and combat in games released for more than 10 years ago.
Ok who is the CLICKER playing the Charr that thinks walking backwards slowly does anything other than pull more mobs that you don't see behind you? Baaaaad representation video is baaaaad. x.x
LOL that video was absolutely horrible.
Also, look at the UI - it's got potions. That footage is from one of the earliest demo builds available...
Hype train -> Reality
Wait what this a TSW thread lol.
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As someone who owns both GW2 and TSW, it's pretty accurate to say the two games are apples and oranges. There really is no comparing them in my opinion. GW2 is a very safe, standard MMORPG when you get down to it. Yes, ANet has done some great innovating, but if you are being completely honest, it's still just the next evolution of the standard themepark. I know that if all else fails, GW2 will be a great safe bet for MMO play this year.
TSW is for a different crowd of players, and for me, it has more potential to be exciting and mysterious than GW2. They really can take this game wherever they want in the lore and in the tech. There is much more potential for an in-game community as well. I'm hoping they have a smooth launch because I would like to see this game do well, even if it is just a niche market.
Frankly, I'm not understanding all of the animations hate. I consider myself pretty down-to-earth in my MMO commentary, and while I agree the animations were pretty weak before the latest changes, I think they are more or less in line with what I would expect at this point. GW2's animations are appropriate for the game's setting and, frankly, cartoonish tone. Sure there may be room to brighten up the animations in TSW, but I'm not expecting, nor do I want GW2 style animations in this game.
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i know my opinion doesnt care much to anyone but still... after playing Tsw beta i can say that in MY pov, tsw its still too far away to get the quality animations of Gw2, cant say anything about the graphics because i havent tested both on max settings.
No misinformation coming from me. Feel free to repost or pm if you find it. You wont though. I always say that I have not played GW2. All my comments are from observation (I would try it if I didn't have to buy it) , as I ALWAYS say. I ask a lot of questions over there no doubt, so that I am informed. I have always said I plan on buying GW2 down the line aswell. You will never see me posing overthere as if I been in a 3 BWEs, never.
Other than that nice post, point taken.
I am running pistol build and on second tier of skill unlocks, the combat animations are so much better and faster. Yes animations are bit awkward (especially the way my char runs with pistols in hand) but people here love to over react. It is not as bad as they are trying to make it sound. Once i hit tier 2 i completely disagree that animations are bad. All Funcom needs to do is bring same amount of polish to tier 1 animations asap.
Played my first two hours of it. The animations remind me of Fallen Earth's....
Which is not a compliment sadly, I do find that they're turning me away from the game at an early stage (together with some other things)....
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You know I would have played FE if it wasn't for the controls. I can hear that. MAybe it's the real world vs the fantasy thing.
All new fantasy games are shinnier versions of WoW. Down to shooting over your shoulder, and shooting 90 degrees to the right while you weapon points straight ahead.
Wow, nice description, almost poetic, I like that
I intend to play TSW as well as GW2 too, I wish there were many more people like that, MMO omnivores, all too often on this site people resort to some form of tribalism, where their adoration of 1 MMO has to go accompanied with bashing other MMO's. A number of people have what it looks like never learnt to move on when they don't like an MMO, or maybe bashing other MMO's that aren't their favorite is more fun to them, can't really tell.
To the highlighted http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5063255#5063255
Misinfo is saying that it's a intention when it is not. It's like agreeing with what is already misinformation and saying it's correct. Like you said you didn't paly the game but you are quick to agree or take note(believe it) of those who give wrong info. If I'm wrong then it must be the wording then and my interpretation lol.
Few clicks.
Also thanks by the way.
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I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
The disconnect between the uppoer and lower body is by design.
Quote from Ragnor:
The second part is that because of the team's decision to allow characters to move while casting skills, they had to untie the upper body from the lower body in the animations. This means there will be times when swinging a sword or using your fist weapons will look odd, but it's the price they've had to pay for allowing players the ability to move while attacking at any time. Basically, it becomes more difficult to structure animations that always look perfect when the characters can't move during the animations.
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That's nit-picking... Writing it as if it were fact and not a educated guess can loosely be called misinformation I guess, but not really though... Yeah that's as much "misinfo" as you will get out of me.
Your welcome.
See, the mistake you made here was coming to this site's forums and expecting to find anything resembling objectivity.
I'm not a fan of TSW. I WANT to be, but it's a FunCom product and after AO and AoC, I'm burned. Also, it's using the Hero engine, though a slightly different one that SWTOR (or so I'm told). I, too, am considerably disappointed by the graphic/artwork style of GW2, but the strength of GW1 was never it's graphics. I trust ArenaNet more than I do FunCom, but there again, Nexon's recent acquisition of %15 stock (not a majority, but the largest %) makes me leery.
Geez, take deep breath ( do it ) okay now counted down from 10 while inhaling through you nose and out thorugh you mouth.
All I can say to this is LOL! Thread is definitely worth a good laugh. Especially since it appears to be serious.
Don't get me wrong, both games have their own appeal, and the atmosphere in TSW is very refreshing. However, trying to pretend like TSW has these awesome combat mechanics is a complete joke. Fans of TSW will be playing for the atmosphere and the lore. Not for the combat. GW2 is a very different type of game. A lot of people playing GW2 don't give a damn about the lore, and are just enjoying the exploration / combat.
TSW definitely caters to a different crowd, and I think it will have it's own niche of fans. If Funcom could polish the gameplay more, this could potentially be an amazing game, but this close to launch is a bit late to pray for an overhaul. You guys have a pretty interesting game, I'd leave it at that.
They did this so they didn't have to make seperate animations for moving and standing still while attacking.
As a fan of GW2 I can honestly say with a straight face I love the combat of TSW just as much as GW2 but then again I am a fan of Tab Targetting way more then any actiony combat system.
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TSW use the Dreamworld engine. This is their own engine. I never played those other games. It hard for me to believe this is the same company I hear all those bad things about. Right now today a see a A-1 indy co. With Vision, great CS and a hella fun game.
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i like gw2, and i like tsw, haveplayed both and both have really nice worlds, difficult to compare graphics because both have such a different art style and setting, but both do a really good job, tho gw2 is prettier imo. But combat and animations? gw2 hands down (tho not perfect) walks all over tsw in bot catergories. im not saying tsw is bad i terms of combat, but the combat animations on the whole, stink right now, and whilst the skill system is deep and very interesting, combat itself cant compete with gw2, thats the way it is and cant be argued i dont think om a technical pespective. Again, both are fun games and i enjoy both.
I am not sure why all the hate (or fanboi love) is spewing out. I think both are good games and am looking forward to playing...both. Were they coming out at the same time, it might be a tough decision but they aren't. TSW in 2 weeks and GW2 whenever (I personally think it will be Nov/Dec so it's a good long spacing)
TSW took a bit of getting used to and the first couple of times after logging in I was frustrated with my character. That said, the game grew on me and now I enjoy every (almost) minute I can play. Would I be playing GW2 if there was another BWE..you bet.
For the first time in many years I'll be playing 2 games at the same time and quite looking forward to it.
If his goal was objectivity, he would've removed that GW2 video since it's from a 2 year old alpha build played by someone at a convention.
The simple fact that he's using that alpha video to "compare" GW2's combat and animations to those in TSW currently gives me lots of lulz. Even in that video GW2's animations and combat is much more fluid than what's currently in TSW.
I wouldn't call it the best MMO combat.
My favorite mmo combat is DCUO. Fastest mmo combat I've had experience with. The rock/paper/scissors mechanic was very nicely done.
Secondly, I have to say.... MxO. No surprise consider SoE stole MxOs base combat mechanics. However, from what I remember it would still be up there with most "unique" mmo combat.
Finally, SWG before any CU. Back when genre wasn't all copy/paste. I remember it being almost like chess. Trying to counter your opponents move 3-4 turns before he uses it.
All that being said. I had the pleasure of enjoying TSW beta this weekend and while the character does feel "clunky" due to animations ... I believe they could all be fixed with a very quick hotfix. Even if they don't ..It would not put me off of the game just because of the depth of the skill system and lack of the infamous leveling you see in EVERY mmo.
Also, the cinematics...stunning.