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TSW - The Best Animations & Combat.

cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v89BoqirexM&feature=player_detailpage

 

We all know who made this "bad animation, bad combat" stuff up supporters of a certain game with no release date... I would love for them to put there best made player video up against this video. Lets compare.  

 

1. Graphics

2. Animations

3. Combat 

 

Now, I do know that animations are a form of art. People have different taste. The purpose of this thread is to have a side by side to dispel this "TSW has bad animations/combat" 

 

At this point TSW has been throughly vetted.  Those two statements on art taste are the best the most hardened detractors can come up with. Let the show begin!

 

edit - make sure video are PvE. TSW PvP vids will becoming next week! TY Mmotosher for the link! All comparision will be posted to OP.

 

Edit- GW2 Comparision video thanks Gamer. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCKnoyYd7oo&feature=player_detailpage

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Comments

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386

    hmm no response to this one... wonder why...

  • WolfenbrWolfenbr Member Posts: 34

    All that hate and love for certain games :) you gotta laugh a little when people take it to the personal side.

    I played both gw2 and tsw and they both have good and bad graphics and animations. For example, gw2 humans walking/running animations still doesn't feel right and as for tsw, those female models look really ugly. 

    As for tsw itself, i feel the game has some great ideas but fails to execute most of them properly. Right now, the perfect mmo for me would be one with TSW theme and GW2 development team :)

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928

    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • TerronteTerronte Member Posts: 321

    Did you seriously give it 14 minutes to get a response?....

     

  • FredomSekerZFredomSekerZ Member Posts: 1,156
    Originally posted by cooper85

    hmm no response to this one... wonder why...

    Stop acting like a fanboy please Cooper.

    The thing that annoys me the most is the gliding/turn anmations. The disconection between the upper and lower body so obvious, and the fact that it's a real world setting just makes it worse. But that can be fixed after. Hope they do it.

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    No more of your "opinions" Aerowyn put your vid where you mouth is.

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
    Originally posted by cooper85

    hmm no response to this one... wonder why...

    Stop acting like a fanboy please Cooper.

    The thing that annoys me the most is the gliding/turn anmations. The disconection between the upper and lower body so obvious, and the fact that it's a real world setting just makes it worse. But that can be fixed after. Hope they do it.

    Fine I'll be the "fanboy" Other games on this site have plenty. I'll be TSW's. Still looking for a comparison vid.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    No more of your "opinions" Aerowyn put your vid where you mouth is.

    you already posted one that shows what people are complaining about.. actually ANY video of TSW works just because you don't see what people have a problem with doesn't mean it's not there... me personally don't have that much of an issue and it's not game breaking for me but others it is.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    No more of your "opinions" Aerowyn put your vid where you mouth is.

    you already posted one that shows what people are complaining about.. actually ANY video of TSW works just because you don't see what people have a problem with doesn't mean it's not there... me personally don't have that much of an issue and it's not game breaking for me but others it is.

    Thanks for your input. Still looking for that comaprision video.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    No more of your "opinions" Aerowyn put your vid where you mouth is.

    you already posted one that shows what people are complaining about.. actually ANY video of TSW works just because you don't see what people have a problem with doesn't mean it's not there... me personally don't have that much of an issue and it's not game breaking for me but others it is.

    Thanks for your input. Still looking for that comaprision video.

    comparison to what?

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • udonudon Member UncommonPosts: 1,803
    Originally posted by cooper85

    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    No more of your "opinions" Aerowyn put your vid where you mouth is.

    you already posted one that shows what people are complaining about.. actually ANY video of TSW works just because you don't see what people have a problem with doesn't mean it's not there... me personally don't have that much of an issue and it's not game breaking for me but others it is.

    Thanks for your input. Still looking for that comaprision video.

     

    I like AOCs combat more than TSW''s. Does that make me a AOC fanboy? If so its a weird thing since I have not played the game in years.
  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch Member Posts: 488

    You see the problem is what they did is really poorly decide how it's going to be animated.

     

    Attacking moves your arms while moving moves your legs.

    It looks completely unnatural.

     

  • GreenishBlueGreenishBlue Member Posts: 263
    Originally posted by cooper85

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v89BoqirexM&feature=player_detailpage

     

    We all know who made this "bad animation, bad combat stuff" up supporters of a certain game with no release date... I would love for them to put there best made player video up against this video. Lets compare.  

     

    1. Graphics

    2. Animations

    3. Combat 

     

    Now, I do know that animations are a form of art. People have different taste. The purpose of this thread is to have a side by side to dispel this "TSW has bad animations/combat" 

     

    At this point TSW has been throughly vetted.  Those two statements on art taste are the best the most hardened detractors can come up with. Let the show begin!

     

    edit - make sure video are PvE. TSW PvP vids will becoming next week! TY Mmotosher for the link!

     

    a video for the Press? try harder

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  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch

    You see the problem is what they did is really poorly decide how it's going to be animated.

     

    Attacking moves your arms while moving moves your legs.

    It looks completely unnatural.

     

    Would you like to post a video of your favorite mmo to compare? 

  • FredomSekerZFredomSekerZ Member Posts: 1,156
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch

    You see the problem is what they did is really poorly decide how it's going to be animated.

     

    Attacking moves your arms while moving moves your legs.

    It looks completely unnatural.

     

    That's the problem. The gliding, that disconnetion is what's making moving while attacking look and feel bad.

  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch Member Posts: 488

    Look at 2:00.

    Even while being press footage you can see the horrible animations.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    I think the animations in the game are fine.  They are subject to taste, like everything, but they aren't needlessly flashy, nor do they have a ton of particle effects that frankly wouldn't fit very well.  Many other game have sword swings accompanied by small nuclear explosions, which doesn't match an actual sword swing.  Works for me.

    The changes they've made, in both animations, and giving attacks "impact", have very significantly improved the overall feel of the game.

    The combat is deep.  Like most games, low level combat isn't usually very impressive.  Once a player starts building some skills, however, the depth starts to become apparent.  I like deep systems, so again, works for me.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • NeferaNefera Member Posts: 426
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch

    You see the problem is what they did is really poorly decide how it's going to be animated.

     

    Attacking moves your arms while moving moves your legs.

    It looks completely unnatural.

     

    This. Also, there's no transition animations between moving and not moving. Essentially each time the character starts or stops moving, (especially) the upper body is defying laws of physics.

  • RedempRedemp Member UncommonPosts: 1,136

     I had only heard that the Animations and Combat in TSW needed work, so that first video just confirms it for me. It really does need some work , but I'm sure the game is fun. The skill decks sure sound interesting.

    Thanks OP

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
    Originally posted by cooper85

    hmm no response to this one... wonder why...

    Stop acting like a fanboy please Cooper.

    The thing that annoys me the most is the gliding/turn anmations. The disconection between the upper and lower body so obvious, and the fact that it's a real world setting just makes it worse. But that can be fixed after. Hope they do it.

    Fine I'll be the "fanboy" Other games on this site have plenty. I'll be TSW's. Still looking for a comparison vid.

    that doesnt change the fact that Funcom needs to fix combat animations before launch or it will turn many people away. Combat is whats more predominant in every mmo so it has to be almost perfect. TSW's combat animations are disgusting. Yes the rest of the game is fantastic. At least the fanboys i know in person accept the flaws on their favorite games





  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Rohn

    I think the animations in the game are fine.  They are subject to taste, like everything, but they aren't needlessly flashy, nor do they have a ton of particle effects that frankly wouldn't fit very well.  Many other game have sword swings accompanied by small nuclear explosions, which doesn't match an actual sword swing.  Works for me.

    The changes they've made, in both animations, and giving attacks "impact", have very significantly improved the overall feel of the game.

    The combat is deep.  Like most games, low level combat isn't usually very impressive.  Once a player starts building some skills, however, the depth starts to become apparent.  I like deep systems, so again, works for me.

    agree here my main complaint was some attacks had no "feedback" when hitting an enemy which they seem to have fixed a lot of

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch Member Posts: 488
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch

    You see the problem is what they did is really poorly decide how it's going to be animated.

     

    Attacking moves your arms while moving moves your legs.

    It looks completely unnatural.

     

    Would you like to post a video of your favorite mmo to compare? 

    Look at any other MMO you can move and attack.

    DCUO:

    TERA:

    GW2:  Even the shitty theif video shows it:

  • cooper85cooper85 Member Posts: 386
    Originally posted by Redemp

     I had only heard that the Animations and Combat in TSW needed work, so that first video just confirms it for me. It really does need some work , but I'm sure the game is fun. The skill decks sure sound interesting.

    Thanks OP

     Looking at your post history, it looks like GW2 is your game of choice. Would you mind post a comparision video?

  • PanthienPanthien Member UncommonPosts: 559
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    because this video was just posted in another thread a minute ago... it's fine you love the game but you need to realise most people on these forums stop taking people seriously and many will just block you when you consistantly come accross as a "super fanboy" of any game.

    No more of your "opinions" Aerowyn put your vid where you mouth is.

    you already posted one that shows what people are complaining about.. actually ANY video of TSW works just because you don't see what people have a problem with doesn't mean it's not there... me personally don't have that much of an issue and it's not game breaking for me but others it is.

    Thanks for your input. Still looking for that comaprision video.

    it really isnt so much that the animations are bad, but people dont want it to look too realistic (which unfortinately isnt entirely captured in tsw either) , its not very flash, people want overboard FX, people want swords hitting something sound as if you just hit a leopard tank so hard it flew up in the air for 50 yards and was cut in half with light effects that would make Michael bay movies look boring.

    Kinna like this for pistols.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZzQ9BF_mKE 

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by cooper85
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch

    You see the problem is what they did is really poorly decide how it's going to be animated.

     

    Attacking moves your arms while moving moves your legs.

    It looks completely unnatural.

     

    Would you like to post a video of your favorite mmo to compare? 

    Look at any other MMO you can move and attack.

    DCUO:

    TERA:

    GW2:  Even the shitty theif video shows it:

    was going to post similar videos but really is no point people see what they see.. i remember people showing many issues with swtor like the static npcs and clones everywhere and showed video of it yet many super fans still swear up and down they just don't see it.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

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