i rly appreciate ur suggestion, but i ll quit buying gold, man, i dont wanna put my account in danger again, i guess, now i m being targeted
Oh yes! your days of buying gold are over; you can bet your "bottom dollar" that you have been "flagged". Enjoy the game as its supposed to be enjoyed! :-)
yeah, i guess bliz is gonna investigate every single piece of my transaction from now on, so its sort of brilliant to quit buying gold
They're not going to investigate every single transaction, with 9.1 million users (considering how many buy gold), I would say that you're flagged and that they'll just look into any suspicious transactions you may be involved in.
Well hopefully you read the email you got and understand what it means. The gold you bought was likely stolen from another player and you supported a company designed around buying stolen black-market account info. What comes around goes around - they will happily just as soon steal your account and liquidate it to someone else all the same.
Also you filtered money out of your country and put it into another part of the world, without any real exchange of goods, import fees or taxation. Just digital bits.
Anyways as others have said, if someone can't be bothered to play a game to achieve success, then they probably shouldn't play MMO's. Imagine spending 60 bucks on some video game and then paying another 10 bucks just to watch the ending without experiencing the content. That game probably wasn't a good match for the buyer ...
I think I speak for all honest players that I hope nichocage-yj gets banned and be forced to find another hobby to cheat at.
Maybe he can start a garden, but buy fully grown plants....
Maybe he can become a painter...and buy painting painted by someone else...
Maybe he can become a cook and order take-out...
dude, i did do something wrong, but i deserve a second chance, right, omg, i feel so lucky that i didnt reveal my character in this post, otherwise, i bet u r gonna report me, omg
I think I speak for all honest players that I hope nichocage-yj gets banned and be forced to find another hobby to cheat at.
Maybe he can start a garden, but buy fully grown plants....
Maybe he can become a painter...and buy painting painted by someone else...
Maybe he can become a cook and order take-out...
You know what? I'm an honest player and i disagree.
Everyone who buys gold or gets powerlevelled should get a warning and have whatever boost or perk that they purchased taken away.
This way they get the warning, they lose their real life money for "nothing" and they can get a chance at redemption.
I'm not so sure that every single person is such an angel that they don't make a mistake from time to time. Otherwise it becomes, to my thinking, a "People who live in glass houses..." scenario.
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The funny thing is earning gold in WoW is one of the easiest things to do. How much of a baddie must you be to not be capable of earning it yourself?
Secondly...what is it you are buying? lol Are you completely incapable of earning your own gear ? Pathetic...
Buying gold should not be done, however, just because you buy gold it does not mean you are a "baddie", and most people who buy gold can in fact earn their gold; in my case, I was just too lazy to do so. As for earning your own gear in WOW, its more of a grinding excercise than earning anything based on talent. Even if you down a boss, you have no guarantee of getting anything and how many times do the news who ended up dying or doing little to no dps end up with with the gear you worked so hard to get?
That's why I think GW2 has a better solution to that; but that's just my opinion. Either way, people should not be buying gold; they should be playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
Hate to break it to you, but that what a baddie is. At least it is in my book. Why should you even be there (in our hypothetical raid or whatever) when the other guy took the time to optain his gear by putting forth the effort.
I think I speak for all honest players that I hope nichocage-yj gets banned and be forced to find another hobby to cheat at.
Maybe he can start a garden, but buy fully grown plants....
Maybe he can become a painter...and buy painting painted by someone else...
Maybe he can become a cook and order take-out...
dude, i did do something wrong, but i deserve a second chance, right, omg, i feel so lucky that i didnt reveal my character in this post, otherwise, i bet u r gonna report me, omg
besides, it takes courage to admit it and warn you guys.......i don't deserve account banned...
I think I speak for all honest players that I hope nichocage-yj gets banned and be forced to find another hobby to cheat at.
Maybe he can start a garden, but buy fully grown plants....
Maybe he can become a painter...and buy painting painted by someone else...
Maybe he can become a cook and order take-out...
dude, i did do something wrong, but i deserve a second chance, right, omg, i feel so lucky that i didnt reveal my character in this post, otherwise, i bet u r gonna report me, omg
Ignore them nichocage-yj, I think we can all see through their false and empty righteous anger. If anyone has done nothing wrong in their entire lives, then I would say they can speak up and condemn the rest of us. I'm not saying there is no judgment, but I think some people are reacting a bit too much (borderline hating).
Psychow, never EVER think or assume that you can speak for anyone other than yourself. Sure, nichocage-yj did something wrong, got caught and has changed his ways. Instead of beating him down like a bully, why not commend his change and encourage him to continue in the right path? Instead of putting people down, how about lifting people up for a change.
Yeah got to say that anyone first, or long term buyers of gold should be banned, and even their ip banned, since outside of extreme methods getting rid of gold sellers is not going to have. Mostly since if there is a market for it, an a easy way of obtaining the need product, they will get an provide that product to the market for profit. Yet if you get rid of the people buying thhe gold or prducts, you make the entire endevore worthless. I had a no tolerence for people that purchased gold in any game i played, and would report them weither they were a guildie or not. Also i do not feel bad at all for the many peole i got banned or suspended as they knowingly took the chance to get ahead, and very well feed the machine that in people that will hack accounts to sell gear, gold, and characters to other people screwing others out of the well earned goods just to get ahead. I say if you see a suspect large scale ggold transaction check where it is coming from, an suspend the reciever for 2 weeks to how ever long it takes for the investagation takes to be resolved.
Hate to break it to you, but that what a baddie is. At least it is in my book. Why should you even be there (in our hypothetical raid or whatever) when the other guy took the time to optain his gear by putting forth the effort.
Just because you have a piece of gear from a boss does not mean you've earned it more than others; how many times have you been in party/raid where the least productive and lest deserving member of the group got the gear? By no means am I condoning buying gold, but I think you guys are going to far in insulting the OP and tearing him down; especially after he aknowledged his mistake and stated that he is no longer going to buy gold.
I think I speak for all honest players that I hope nichocage-yj gets banned and be forced to find another hobby to cheat at.
Maybe he can start a garden, but buy fully grown plants....
Maybe he can become a painter...and buy painting painted by someone else...
Maybe he can become a cook and order take-out...
dude, i did do something wrong, but i deserve a second chance, right, omg, i feel so lucky that i didnt reveal my character in this post, otherwise, i bet u r gonna report me, omg
Ignore them nichocage-yj, I think we can all see through their false and empty righteous anger. If anyone has done nothing wrong in their entire lives, then I would say they can speak up and condemn the rest of us. I'm not saying there is no judgment, but I think some people are reacting a bit too much (borderline hating).
Psychow, never EVER think or assume that you can speak for anyone other than yourself. Sure, nichocage-yj did something wrong, got caught and has changed his ways. Instead of beating him down like a bully, why not commend his change and encourage him to continue in the right path? Instead of putting people down, how about lifting people up for a change.
Because telling them that they can and will be banned is better than bragging about buying gold and recommending that they find a high quality gold selling site.
As someone who raided rather hardcore for years, i can tell you alot of people buy gold, most of my officers ran fishing bots or would buy gold to keep the guild supplied with raiding mats. Its really rather common. When you work a normal job, and raid a good 20 hours plus a week, you dont have time to farm.
What's obscure about gold farmers is that their gold is rarely legitimate, everyone knows about accounts getting hijacked and stolen of all their belongings and in some cases, they keep yer characters for their own uses if it's useful enough.
By purchasing gold in a game, you encourage criminal activities.
I hope they change their minds and ban you for good and that will teach you not to dance with the devil in the future. You deserve to be banned IMO and it's folks like you who are making it easy for gold famers to make a fortune. I hope you stay with wow and don't buy any other games soon.
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You may not think you are hurting anyone by buying gold, but how many MMOs do we play where the chat is constantly filled with nothing but gold selling spam??....If you people didn't buy then these people would have no one to sell to and go away....Like others said, the onl reason alot of these companies don't ban gold sellers/buyers anymore is they want the 15 bucks a month that you guys provide....Just dont expect alot of sympathy from the playerbase.
Originally posted by Asuran24 Yeah got to say that anyone first, or long term buyers of gold should be banned, and even their ip banned, since outside of extreme methods getting rid of gold sellers is not going to have. Mostly since if there is a market for it, an a easy way of obtaining the need product, they will get an provide that product to the market for profit. Yet if you get rid of the people buying thhe gold or prducts, you make the entire endevore worthless. I had a no tolerence for people that purchased gold in any game i played, and would report them weither they were a guildie or not. Also i do not feel bad at all for the many peole i got banned or suspended as they knowingly took the chance to get ahead, and very well feed the machine that in people that will hack accounts to sell gear, gold, and characters to other people screwing others out of the well earned goods just to get ahead. I say if you see a suspect large scale ggold transaction check where it is coming from, an suspend the reciever for 2 weeks to how ever long it takes for the investagation takes to be resolved.
If Blizzad banned everyone who bought or sold gold in WOW they would lose at least 50% of their entire playerbase.
I hope they change their minds and ban you for good and that will teach you not to dance with the devil in the future. You deserve to be banned IMO and it's folks like you who are making it easy for gold famers to make a fortune. I hope you stay with wow and don't buy any other games soon.
Bandit
You may not think you are hurting anyone by buying gold, but how many MMOs do we play where the chat is constantly filled with nothing but gold selling spam??....If you people didn't buy then these people would have no one to sell to and go away....Like others said, the onl reason alot of these companies don't ban gold sellers/buyers anymore is they want the 15 bucks a month that you guys provide....Just dont expect alot of sympathy from the playerbase.
I don't think anyone is expecting sympathy, but I think we can expect support for those who come clean and decide to no longer buy gold. It took a lot of guts for the OP to post this here; shame the response he's getting from you guys, shame.
Why is buying gold from third party so bad again? I mean games like, Eve, can do it by disguising it as a subscription service but if a third party does it, then it is like selling drugs?
Hate to break it to you, but that what a baddie is. At least it is in my book. Why should you even be there (in our hypothetical raid or whatever) when the other guy took the time to optain his gear by putting forth the effort.
Just because you have a piece of gear from a boss does not mean you've earned it more than others; how many times have you been in party/raid where the least productive and lest deserving member of the group got the gear? By no means am I condoning buying gold, but I think you guys are going to far in insulting the OP and tearing him down; especially after he aknowledged his mistake and stated that he is no longer going to buy gold.
If they got a raid invite and helped down the boss, then they deserve the gear.
The point I was making is, the lazy, gold buying baddie wouldn't have even been invited to the raid in the first place because...without buying gold, he's most likely still wearing the quest greens the leveling service left him...He probably doesn't even know how to play his toon and certainly can't be bothered to learn...
If they got a raid invite and helped down the boss, then they deserve the gear.
The point I was making is, the lazy, gold buying baddie wouldn't have even been invited to the raid in the first place because...without buying gold, he's most likely still wearing the quest greens the leveling service left him...He probably doesn't even know how to play his toon and certainly can't be bothered to learn...
And I agree, for the most part. I think that's a very good point. But the OP does not deserve the kind of hate he's getting from people here, especially after admitting to his mistakes and deciding to not buy any more gold Instead of tearing him down, we should be supporting him.
I hope they change their minds and ban you for good and that will teach you not to dance with the devil in the future. You deserve to be banned IMO and it's folks like you who are making it easy for gold famers to make a fortune. I hope you stay with wow and don't buy any other games soon.
Bandit
You may not think you are hurting anyone by buying gold, but how many MMOs do we play where the chat is constantly filled with nothing but gold selling spam??....If you people didn't buy then these people would have no one to sell to and go away....Like others said, the onl reason alot of these companies don't ban gold sellers/buyers anymore is they want the 15 bucks a month that you guys provide....Just dont expect alot of sympathy from the playerbase.
I don't think anyone is expecting sympathy, but I think we can expect support for those who come clean and decide to no longer buy gold. It took a lot of guts for the OP to post this here; shame the response he's getting from you guys, shame.
It took a lot of guts? what the f are you talking about? Stop trying to defend his actions. He should of been banned.
Originally posted by Yamota Why is buying gold from third party so bad again? I mean games like, Eve, can do it by disguising it as a subscription service but if a third party does it, then it is like selling drugs?
I think that's where the false and empy righteous anger comes into play.
Originally posted by Asuran24 Yeah got to say that anyone first, or long term buyers of gold should be banned, and even their ip banned, since outside of extreme methods getting rid of gold sellers is not going to have. Mostly since if there is a market for it, an a easy way of obtaining the need product, they will get an provide that product to the market for profit. Yet if you get rid of the people buying thhe gold or prducts, you make the entire endevore worthless. I had a no tolerence for people that purchased gold in any game i played, and would report them weither they were a guildie or not. Also i do not feel bad at all for the many peole i got banned or suspended as they knowingly took the chance to get ahead, and very well feed the machine that in people that will hack accounts to sell gear, gold, and characters to other people screwing others out of the well earned goods just to get ahead. I say if you see a suspect large scale ggold transaction check where it is coming from, an suspend the reciever for 2 weeks to how ever long it takes for the investagation takes to be resolved.
If Blizzad banned everyone who bought or sold gold in WOW they would lose at least 50% of their entire playerbase.
An that is bad how? All the extra work that goes into dealing with the issues that gold selling bringgs into the picture, the issues that it causes for players of the game that actually play the game. Over time i am extremely sure that they couldd recupe that loss in players, an have a much safer game overall for those players both old, an new gamers in the game. What is funny is at even a 50% loss that is still better, then most of the mmos running now. Igf you don't punish an remove problematic people, and situations in your game you just pass those issues an people on to your playerbase to deal with.Also with a game as high of a popularity and visability as wow, you will need to be alot harsher then other games to keep control as your going to be the main target for people looking to cashin at whatever cost.
I hope they change their minds and ban you for good and that will teach you not to dance with the devil in the future. You deserve to be banned IMO and it's folks like you who are making it easy for gold famers to make a fortune. I hope you stay with wow and don't buy any other games soon.
Bandit
You may not think you are hurting anyone by buying gold, but how many MMOs do we play where the chat is constantly filled with nothing but gold selling spam??....If you people didn't buy then these people would have no one to sell to and go away....Like others said, the onl reason alot of these companies don't ban gold sellers/buyers anymore is they want the 15 bucks a month that you guys provide....Just dont expect alot of sympathy from the playerbase.
I don't think anyone is expecting sympathy, but I think we can expect support for those who come clean and decide to no longer buy gold. It took a lot of guts for the OP to post this here; shame the response he's getting from you guys, shame.
It took a lot of guts? what the f are you talking about? Stop trying to defend his actions. He should of been banned.
Posting personal mistakes publicly is not something everyone has the guts to do. I'm not defending his buying the gold, but I am supporting his decision to stop buying gold. Instead of tearing him down, I'm going to encourage him. I think you guys should be ashamed for hating on the OP for mannnig up to his mistakes, learning form them, and moving on.
I have to say, in a game like WOW I dont think buying gold is a big deal. It does saturate the economy a little but, worse things have happened.
My GF has a great time in WOW, manipulating the AH. It's a hobby for her to go into a game and ruin the economy through tools like the AH. In WOW, she had close to 3 million gold not including the value of mats. Some days she would just log on to buy out an entire resource only to hold it hostage until the weekend. I wasn't broke either but I didn't have that kind of gold.
I remember having to spend 5k just to level enchanting about 20 points just because she had bought out the mats I needed and re-auctioned them at ridiculous prices. Of course I got my refund later... In gold, but I think that's far worse then buying a measily 30k. People need 30k after players like my GF are finished EFF'ing shit up.
Then they mention the negative impact of buying gold.... There is always an opposite argument. One of those being player happyness. It's not like dailys and leveling crafting are particularly fun, matter of fact, I was not impressed with either system. So as much as they want to talk about negative impacts, if i'm not having fun and a little gold could fix that, then whats the big deal, it's a video game.
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I think I speak for all honest players (EDIT: Except Sovrath) that I hope nichocage-yj gets banned and be forced to find another hobby to cheat at.
Maybe he can start a garden, but buy fully grown plants....
Maybe he can become a painter...and buy painting painted by someone else...
Maybe he can become a cook and order take-out...
yeah, make sense:)
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Well hopefully you read the email you got and understand what it means. The gold you bought was likely stolen from another player and you supported a company designed around buying stolen black-market account info. What comes around goes around - they will happily just as soon steal your account and liquidate it to someone else all the same.
Also you filtered money out of your country and put it into another part of the world, without any real exchange of goods, import fees or taxation. Just digital bits.
Anyways as others have said, if someone can't be bothered to play a game to achieve success, then they probably shouldn't play MMO's. Imagine spending 60 bucks on some video game and then paying another 10 bucks just to watch the ending without experiencing the content. That game probably wasn't a good match for the buyer ...
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dude, i did do something wrong, but i deserve a second chance, right, omg, i feel so lucky that i didnt reveal my character in this post, otherwise, i bet u r gonna report me, omg
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You know what? I'm an honest player and i disagree.
Everyone who buys gold or gets powerlevelled should get a warning and have whatever boost or perk that they purchased taken away.
This way they get the warning, they lose their real life money for "nothing" and they can get a chance at redemption.
I'm not so sure that every single person is such an angel that they don't make a mistake from time to time. Otherwise it becomes, to my thinking, a "People who live in glass houses..." scenario.
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Hate to break it to you, but that what a baddie is. At least it is in my book. Why should you even be there (in our hypothetical raid or whatever) when the other guy took the time to optain his gear by putting forth the effort.
besides, it takes courage to admit it and warn you guys.......i don't deserve account banned...
Occupy SW. Occupy Goldshire. Go!
Ignore them nichocage-yj, I think we can all see through their false and empty righteous anger. If anyone has done nothing wrong in their entire lives, then I would say they can speak up and condemn the rest of us. I'm not saying there is no judgment, but I think some people are reacting a bit too much (borderline hating).
Psychow, never EVER think or assume that you can speak for anyone other than yourself. Sure, nichocage-yj did something wrong, got caught and has changed his ways. Instead of beating him down like a bully, why not commend his change and encourage him to continue in the right path? Instead of putting people down, how about lifting people up for a change.
Just because you have a piece of gear from a boss does not mean you've earned it more than others; how many times have you been in party/raid where the least productive and lest deserving member of the group got the gear? By no means am I condoning buying gold, but I think you guys are going to far in insulting the OP and tearing him down; especially after he aknowledged his mistake and stated that he is no longer going to buy gold.
Because telling them that they can and will be banned is better than bragging about buying gold and recommending that they find a high quality gold selling site.
What's obscure about gold farmers is that their gold is rarely legitimate, everyone knows about accounts getting hijacked and stolen of all their belongings and in some cases, they keep yer characters for their own uses if it's useful enough.
By purchasing gold in a game, you encourage criminal activities.
You may not think you are hurting anyone by buying gold, but how many MMOs do we play where the chat is constantly filled with nothing but gold selling spam??....If you people didn't buy then these people would have no one to sell to and go away....Like others said, the onl reason alot of these companies don't ban gold sellers/buyers anymore is they want the 15 bucks a month that you guys provide....Just dont expect alot of sympathy from the playerbase.
If Blizzad banned everyone who bought or sold gold in WOW they would lose at least 50% of their entire playerbase.
I don't think anyone is expecting sympathy, but I think we can expect support for those who come clean and decide to no longer buy gold. It took a lot of guts for the OP to post this here; shame the response he's getting from you guys, shame.
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If they got a raid invite and helped down the boss, then they deserve the gear.
The point I was making is, the lazy, gold buying baddie wouldn't have even been invited to the raid in the first place because...without buying gold, he's most likely still wearing the quest greens the leveling service left him...He probably doesn't even know how to play his toon and certainly can't be bothered to learn...
And I agree, for the most part. I think that's a very good point. But the OP does not deserve the kind of hate he's getting from people here, especially after admitting to his mistakes and deciding to not buy any more gold Instead of tearing him down, we should be supporting him.
It took a lot of guts? what the f are you talking about? Stop trying to defend his actions. He should of been banned.
I think that's where the false and empy righteous anger comes into play.
An that is bad how? All the extra work that goes into dealing with the issues that gold selling bringgs into the picture, the issues that it causes for players of the game that actually play the game. Over time i am extremely sure that they couldd recupe that loss in players, an have a much safer game overall for those players both old, an new gamers in the game. What is funny is at even a 50% loss that is still better, then most of the mmos running now. Igf you don't punish an remove problematic people, and situations in your game you just pass those issues an people on to your playerbase to deal with.Also with a game as high of a popularity and visability as wow, you will need to be alot harsher then other games to keep control as your going to be the main target for people looking to cashin at whatever cost.
Posting personal mistakes publicly is not something everyone has the guts to do. I'm not defending his buying the gold, but I am supporting his decision to stop buying gold. Instead of tearing him down, I'm going to encourage him. I think you guys should be ashamed for hating on the OP for mannnig up to his mistakes, learning form them, and moving on.
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I have to say, in a game like WOW I dont think buying gold is a big deal. It does saturate the economy a little but, worse things have happened.
My GF has a great time in WOW, manipulating the AH. It's a hobby for her to go into a game and ruin the economy through tools like the AH. In WOW, she had close to 3 million gold not including the value of mats. Some days she would just log on to buy out an entire resource only to hold it hostage until the weekend. I wasn't broke either but I didn't have that kind of gold.
I remember having to spend 5k just to level enchanting about 20 points just because she had bought out the mats I needed and re-auctioned them at ridiculous prices. Of course I got my refund later... In gold, but I think that's far worse then buying a measily 30k. People need 30k after players like my GF are finished EFF'ing shit up.
Then they mention the negative impact of buying gold.... There is always an opposite argument. One of those being player happyness. It's not like dailys and leveling crafting are particularly fun, matter of fact, I was not impressed with either system. So as much as they want to talk about negative impacts, if i'm not having fun and a little gold could fix that, then whats the big deal, it's a video game.