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How is it that these ancient people were aware of the existence of creatueres that had supposedly been extinct for millions of years when they drew these pictures?
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Let's see if you can stay on the subject instead of deviating away from the fact that you've built your belief system around something that doesn't exist.
Do you have any proof for the existence of your god?
LMAO. I love it when the only things that are "god inspired" support the christian agenda. How do you know those footnotes weren't inspired by god? How do you know the bible is? Maybe god wanted to make some corrections so inspired the editors to write them. However, in all reality, the footnotes were translation corrections, not changes to the original text.
Sorry, you are incorrect.
Elephants do not hae tails like cedar trees. The word behemoth implies that he was the largest of the creatures God created. Sorry buddy, I have studied ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek for over ten years, and you clearly do not know what you are talking about, nor did the people who added those footnotes.
Linux is free.....if your time costs nothing.
Let's see if you can stay on the subject instead of deviating away from the fact that you've built your belief system around something that doesn't exist.
Do you have any proof for the existence of your god?
It isn't deviating from the subject. It's quite on topic. Answer the question please.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
OK as soon as you give me proof for the existence of your god, I'll answer any further questions you have.
If you can't give proof in your next post I'll take it that you admit your god doesn't exist.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
You've proved nothing. Thanks for finally admitting your god doesn't exist.
LMAO. I love it when the only things that are "god inspired" support the christian agenda. How do you know those footnotes weren't inspired by god? How do you know the bible is? Maybe god wanted to make some corrections so inspired the editors to write them. However, in all reality, the footnotes were translation corrections, not changes to the original text.
Sorry, you are incorrect.
Elephants do not hae tails like cedar trees. The word behemoth implies that he was the largest of the creatures God created. Sorry buddy, I have studied ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek for over ten years, and you clearly do not know what you are talking about, nor did the people who added those footnotes.
Reread your text. It does not state that their tails are "like" cedar trees, only that they move like cedar trees. Cedar trees sway back and forth when blowing in the wind (just like any other tree, but cedar has a different "movement"). And I suppose since you studied for over ten years, you can rebuke anything that the religious "experts" have added to the bible. The people that added the footnotes are experts in their fields, including the languages of the original texts.
You state that I do not know what I am talking about, but I am referencing your most holy book as my number one source, and you are saying that I am wrong. Also, you have not yet answered my questions of "How do you know the bible is god inspired", and "How do you know the footnotes were not".
This is another prime example of how christians reject anything that contradicts their beliefs, even when it is presented in their own bible.
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be·he·moth Audio pronunciation of "behemoth" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-hmth, b-mth)
n.
1. Something enormous in size or power.
2. often Behemoth A huge animal, possibly the hippopotamus, described in the Bible.
[Middle English behemoth, bemoth, from Hebrew bhmôt, pl. of bhmâ, beast. See bhm in Semitic Roots.]
Also, from the Bible Dictionary, written by theologians:
(Job 40:15-24). Some have supposed this to be an Egyptian word meaning a
"water-ox." The Revised Version has here in the margin "hippopotamus," which is
probably the correct rendering of the word. The word occurs frequently in
Scripture, but, except here, always as a common name, and translated "beast" or
"cattle."
so what? i have taken a look around.... and ? no god no miracles no face in the sky no shit no nothing...
if u see god out there, MAN... magic is not for everyone, consult your doctor before use...
in the end there can be only one
-Let's all be ignorant!
LMAO. I love it when the only things that are "god inspired" support the christian agenda. How do you know those footnotes weren't inspired by god? How do you know the bible is? Maybe god wanted to make some corrections so inspired the editors to write them. However, in all reality, the footnotes were translation corrections, not changes to the original text.
Sorry, you are incorrect.
Elephants do not hae tails like cedar trees. The word behemoth implies that he was the largest of the creatures God created. Sorry buddy, I have studied ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek for over ten years, and you clearly do not know what you are talking about, nor did the people who added those footnotes.
Reread your text. It does not state that their tails are "like" cedar trees, only that they move like cedar trees. Cedar trees sway back and forth when blowing in the wind (just like any other tree, but cedar has a different "movement"). And I suppose since you studied for over ten years, you can rebuke anything that the religious "experts" have added to the bible. The people that added the footnotes are experts in their fields, including the languages of the original texts.
You state that I do not know what I am talking about, but I am referencing your most holy book as my number one source, and you are saying that I am wrong. Also, you have not yet answered my questions of "How do you know the bible is god inspired", and "How do you know the footnotes were not".
This is another prime example of how christians reject anything that contradicts their beliefs, even when it is presented in their own bible.
edit:
be·he·moth Audio pronunciation of "behemoth" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-hmth, b-mth)
n.
1. Something enormous in size or power.
2. often Behemoth A huge animal, possibly the hippopotamus, described in the Bible.
[Middle English behemoth, bemoth, from Hebrew bhmôt, pl. of bhmâ, beast. See bhm in Semitic Roots.]
Also, from the Bible Dictionary, written by theologians:
(Job 40:15-24). Some have supposed this to be an Egyptian word meaning a
"water-ox." The Revised Version has here in the margin "hippopotamus," which is
probably the correct rendering of the word. The word occurs frequently in
Scripture, but, except here, always as a common name, and translated "beast" or
"cattle."
Friend, I am a theologian. The Hebrew text states literally that his tail hangs like a cedar, it is indicative of size, this is a translation error.
It it not true that those responsible for every translation were experts in their fields, and some were not even Christian.
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I just proved everything. And you never refuted that I was just wrong, but just showing your large ego with lack of knowledge to go along with it, once again. And yet you still refuse to answer questions. I guess this proves what I always thought. You never knew what you were talking about, you just keep on yabberin that God doesn't exist, and you hope if you say it enough, you'll then tap your shoes and he'll poof out of existence.
Tap your shoes hard dorothy, tap them hard!
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
My point of the theoligians was sarcastic. EVERYONE who studies religious texts are theoligians, you do not need a degree. And no, it is not indication of size, it states it CLEARLY in the BIBLE. I do not care what your personal opinion is of the subject. And no, the hebrew text does not clearly state that. This may be your personal belief of what the translation is, but not the majority of biblical scholars.
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Oh, and recheck your translation, the actual translation held by many scholars is "sapling" not tree. And cedar saplings are quite small, and do fit an elephants description of a tail.
And considering you are only 23, I would like to see how you claim expertise in Hebrew and Greek. Please provide transcripts, essays, dissertations, thesis, etc.
So by telling me to go outside and look around you've proved the existence of god?
How? Where's the link?
Please explain in detail... I'm sure a lot of people will be interested to hear your proof.
And you speak Hebrew/Aramaic? Ho do you know that the context of that passage does not indicate size?
I also do not understand why it is so important that the Bible does notm ention dinosaurs, it isn't a wildlife guide.
I do not think these forums are the best place for me to go posting essays, but I can provide you with such if you would like.
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So by telling me to go outside and look around you've proved the existence of god?
How? Where's the link?
Please explain in detail... I'm sure a lot of people will be interested to hear your proof.
There is proof in existance evarything was created there are variations but not evolutions so you are without excuse there is desighn in evarything and u dont need a microscope for this.
It's there isn't it?
Now your turn to answer questions.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
THEMANMAN or Doctor WHo
No, it's not there.
I can't understand why when you seem so sure that there's a god you're so deterrmined to hide your proof of his existence from everyone.
Um....that isn't true I lived the first 20 years of my life as a dedicated athiest (well, those years which I was capable of intellectual reasoning anyway)
My argument is not and never has been that noone can prove he exists.
You previously claimed that my argument was that "the Bible says it cuz its true" which it was not"
It seems that it is you who are incapable of reading a simple post and understanding what it says, much less holding an intelligent debate.
Again, how do you answer fulfilled prohpecy?
What are your views on abiogenesis?
Do you believe in quarks?
You seem determined to put up a smokescreen every time I ask you to give some evidence that your god exists.
If you have no evidence, then you are pretending. It's ok to pretend, but don't expect your opinions to be respected when you live in a world of make-believe.
Please keep posting over and over again with questions that do absolutely nothing to back up your insistence that there's a god.
Ive got an answer for you. I believe in God, and I don't really care if you do or don't. But to say that what we are all doing is just pretend is rude. If it is just all pretend then give me answers, with no questions.
THEMANMAN or Doctor WHo
And you speak Hebrew/Aramaic? Ho do you know that the context of that passage does not indicate size?
I also do not understand why it is so important that the Bible does notm ention dinosaurs, it isn't a wildlife guide.
I do not think these forums are the best place for me to go posting essays, but I can provide you with such if you would like.
No I don't speak Hebrew, nor do I speak Aramaic (which I would hardly believe if you said you did since only a handful of people in the world can). I know people who speak it (hebrew), I have read books, published essays, etc., that claim the exact opposite than you do, and they are written by noted "religious scholars". And I am not talking about providing essays that you write just to write, I am talking about essays that have been published. Provide the magazine, title of story, page number, etc.
Power Mongers?? Your really sound like a child when you say that. How were they power mongers? When Jesus went walking around he did say "read my book that is going to come out sometime in the near futur or burn." People are not forced to believe in God. Bibles are free, and if you want to believe then go ahead.
THEMANMAN or Doctor WHo
If you're offended by my assertion that you're pretending a god exists (which you are, given the fact that you have no evidence to back up his existence) then it's because you have no way to defend your beliefs.
My intention in pointing out that people pretend when they believe in invisible things was not to offend anyone. I was simply stating the obvious.
Religious people all too frequently use the excuse that they're "offended" in order to avoid backing up their claims.
I won't spend time enumerating the rewards, but simply my faith has assisted me in leading a good and happy life.
There are serveral points to life: biological, spiritual, and personal. If you meant a singular point, I would contend that's a limited view.
If I were to die today and had the chance after death to realize that there was no god, then I'd still be happy I had my faith for providing the type of life I had.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Hiding? It's right there. I'm sorry. But I can't make a blind man see.
Maybe you should tell us what you think is there, and maybe we can help you. Or you can just continue on this limitless road of drivel you seem to be travelling, lacking any response to these questions asked you. Which either makes you highly ignorant, arrogant, or both.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."